[02:31] <IcemanV9> lxc, docker & lxcd (and whatsnot) and its container bugged me for a while. you see, i've been searching via google for windows container on ubuntu (or linux) host past week. i've learned that it's not there (yet?). it had disappointed me greatly. i just want to throw every OS in a container on linux host. i guess i'm thinking too far ahead in the future ... needs to scale back to what we have today (or yesterday : P).
[02:31] <IcemanV9> *sigh* : (
[02:33] <IcemanV9> ah. my statement is missing the beginning ... here's it is ...
[02:33] <IcemanV9> lxc, docker & lxcd (and whatsnot) and its container bugged me for a while. you see, i've been searching via google ..
[02:45] <nacc> IcemanV9: it's there (your whole statement)
[02:46] <nacc> i'm not sure how a windows container on linux could ever work
[02:46] <nacc> windows executable is not a unix executable
[02:46] <nacc> you want a VM for someting like that anyway
[02:50] <IcemanV9> i've seen linux container on windows host everywhere, but not other way around. i'd like to move on to container away from VM.
[02:53] <IcemanV9> and i like the concept of a container more than VM. i guess i'm looking for "less is more" method  or smaller "footprint" on resources.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^
[05:40] <EriC^>  morning all
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^
[05:48] <EriC^> heya lotuspsychje
[06:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:14] <ducasse> good morning
[06:15] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:15] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:16] <ducasse> hi lordievader - still struggling to wake up, how about you?
[06:16] <lordievader> About the same.
[06:17] <ducasse> takes a little time to kick the system into gear
[06:24] <lordievader> Time and coffee 😉
[07:13] <EriC^> !Ping
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> how was supervising yesterday?
[07:28] <lordievader> It was allright.
[07:28] <lordievader> Most questions people got was about a typo.
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> another soul sold to ubuntu
[07:57] <AuroraAvenue> Hi its 9am here.
[07:57] <AuroraAvenue> I was just a bit curious to know peoples reaction to what I have seen on reddit, of late.
[07:58] <AuroraAvenue> some would say that gnome 'has its drawbacks' and those drawbacks are too much to stomach for some ubuntu users ?
[07:58] <AuroraAvenue> discuss
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> AuroraAvenue: what drawbacks are you talking about?
[08:17] <guiverc_d> AuroraAvenue, i'd expect those that don't love gnome (or those who consider it has drawbacks) would just use another DE.  (applies to me; almost always in XFCE)
[08:19] <guiverc_d> (I think 11.04 was the last time I mostly used gnome[-classic])
[08:22] <AuroraAvenue> well I guess I am not here to initiate an gnome versus other DE typa-debate, that's not me.
[08:23] <AuroraAvenue> but just commenting if you have a look at the ubuntu subreddit.
[08:23] <AuroraAvenue> guiverc_d, right, but why cant you install afew of them at once ? #curious
[08:24] <guiverc_d> i didn't think you were;  .. as for question - my 'ubuntu' has xfce & mate installed (neither of which were installed default...)
[08:27] <AuroraAvenue> Hmm .. maybe 'this' is why ubuntu had such a 'personal' track in the design ? i.e. afew years ago I remember the meetings about ' ubuntu - personal ' being disclosed within ubuntu. I guess it comes down to those "extra" installs. Something that windows does without.
[08:28] <AuroraAvenue> ...
[08:31] <AuroraAvenue>  a blu-ray edition of Ubuntu would've trounced all of the above - by offering all the apps, on something you could put in the post. But then again, these apps... there not exactly the bees-knees of some form of higher-computing. I guess I was hoping for my rocket-pack with 18.04 .... to much, yet again.
[08:31] <AuroraAvenue> **too
[08:33]  * AuroraAvenue drifts off to the nap corner. Zzzzzzz
[08:33] <guiverc_d> sorry I don't understand your 'personal' track reference...
[08:35] <guiverc_d> i think us gnu/linux users have tons of choice; we're spoiled by all the choice & power we have, as such we are 'noisy' & ....
[08:36] <AuroraAvenue> guiverc_d, oh that well apart that, you slightly missed my main point, which was www.ubuntu.blue (blu-ray ubuntu). Oh well anyway - Ubuntu-personal was in a blog-post posted after the dev's had a meeting in the 'Unity honeymoon period'. your right on choice. :)
[08:36] <AuroraAvenue> but what do I know ?
[08:37] <AuroraAvenue> I'm not even a 'gamer' -
[08:37] <AuroraAvenue> I surrf & spotify
[08:38] <AuroraAvenue> anyway - without the money - these ideas are meaningless.
[08:58] <AuroraAvenue> well, this is shit.
[08:58] <AuroraAvenue> bye.
[10:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:31] <LtWorf_> hi BluesKaj
[10:33] <BluesKaj> hey LtWorf_:
[10:33] <LtWorf_> haha bad irc client, mine puts the ":" only if the nickname is at the beginning of the line :P
[10:33] <LtWorf_> (konversation here)
[10:39] <BluesKaj> I used knoversation for a long time, you can set the punctuation in the settings
[10:41] <BluesKaj> using quassel now because the socks5 proxy with my vpn assigned proxy url actually works, not so on konversation
[10:43] <BluesKaj> I prefer konversation's layout, but quassel's security takes precedence for me
[10:44] <LtWorf_> i see, i never tried it
[10:47] <BluesKaj> almost got hacked, some russian stole my nick (don't ask me how) then tried to hack my wife's W7 ncomputer wiith a DOS attack
[10:49] <BluesKaj> we couldn't get back on the 'net for over 20 mins til i called my ISP and they blocked his IP somehow
[10:50] <BluesKaj> <---been a bit paranoid about IRC ever since
[12:19] <EriC^^> !ping
[12:22] <tomreyn> EriC^^: did you spot my suggestions about using znc / CLI IRC clients on a system with a more stable internet connection in #uubntu?
[12:23] <tomreyn> if you combine the latter with mosh you get a pretty good UX
[12:26] <BluesKaj> heh, I joined #quassel chat and asked how to find the setting to show server lag and they booted me right off freenode :-)
[12:28] <lordievader> tomreyn: Or you can use Matrix. (You have to trust that the bridge operators have a more stable connection than you do though)
[12:29] <lordievader> If your client (or homeserver) falls away messages are stored on the bridge until you return.
[12:29] <lordievader> Much like an IRC bouncer.
[12:37] <BluesKaj> lordievader:  what's matrix?
[12:38] <lordievader> BluesKaj: https://matrix.org/blog/home/
[12:39] <lordievader> New chat protocol
[12:39] <lordievader> With the ability of bridging between different chat protocols.
[12:41] <tomreyn> kind of like bitlbee did for years before that ;-)
[12:45] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: you don't hack (in the sense of compromising a system, other than its / its connectivities' availability) someone with a DoS (denial of service) attack. Unless it was a DOS attack in the disk operating system sense. but then it'd be a *very* old windows version.
[12:46] <BluesKaj> interesting
[12:47] <tomreyn> what your ISP probably did was to reboot your CPE, causing it to get a new DHCP lease and a new public ip address assigned.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> heh, just switched to quassel and learning my way around a "new client" to me. At least the socks5 proxy connection thru my vpn proved proxy url works
[12:48] <BluesKaj> proved=provided
[12:51] <BluesKaj> was DOS attacked a while back as mentioned earlier, so I'm using the proxy now rather than put my whole internet connection thru the vpn
[13:02] <BluesKaj> the same setup aslo works well in qbittorrent
[13:14] <hggdh> mornings all
[13:15] <oerheks> da ist er wieder
[13:15] <oerheks> hi hggdh
[13:16] <hggdh> :-)
[13:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning hggdh
[13:32] <tomreyn> EriC^^ doesn't like talking to me, or just got disconnected again
[13:33] <EriC^^> i got disconnected
 EriC^^: did you spot my suggestions about using znc / CLI IRC clients on a system with a more stable internet connection in #uubntu?
 if you combine the latter with mosh you get a pretty good UX
[13:34] <EriC^^> yeah i'd get a more continuous experience i guess
[13:35] <EriC^^> i think my dc'ing is an ubuntu thing, on the windows laptop it doesnt seem to do the same
[13:37] <EriC^^> BCM43142 802.11b/g/n configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.271 (r587334) ip=192.168.2.111 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abg
[13:38] <EriC^^> anything obviously wrong there, anyone?
[13:50] <tomreyn> it starts with BCM, which stands for Broadcom, which stands for trouble.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> 802.11abg seems different, mine is BCM as well, not the same chip/driver ,but wireless=802.11bgn
[13:56] <BluesKaj> whatever the difference theremeans , maybe an older wifi  protocol
[13:57] <BluesKaj> my lenovo laptop is 4yrs old
[13:59] <BluesKaj> EriC^^:  which wifi channel are you using..doubt you would use the default ch6 since it's the default and crowded and subject to all kinds of intereference from your neighbours
[14:31] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: oh
[14:32] <EriC^^> it's on channel 11
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ok EriC^^ good
[14:33] <BluesKaj> so that's probly not the peoblem
[14:36] <BluesKaj> er problem
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:13] <EriC^^> evening all
[18:42] <hggdh> afternoon all
[18:44] <Bashing-om> hggdh: :) It's Friday support .
[18:44] <hggdh> :-)
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> hey hggdh
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> watching foot here
[18:48] <hggdh> same here, with Portugal 2 to q Spain so far
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> first penalty crazy!
[18:49] <hggdh> have to say that -- unsurprisingly -- I am for PT
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah they underdog
[18:49] <hggdh> it was... and then PT pretty much forgot it was in a game, and let Spain loose
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: not sure if spain will let it go now
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> they might go in block mode
[18:52] <hggdh> perhaps. But I think they will not accept PT winning, so I am afraid they will go violent
[18:52] <leftyfb> wow
[18:52] <leftyfb> the people in #bash are complete asshats
[18:52] <hggdh> OTOH Spain's goal was beautiful
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> whats happening leftyfb
[18:53] <leftyfb> the content for people asking questions is amazing
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> hggdh: that 'almost' goal from PT was crazy also
[18:54] <leftyfb> I've been hanging out there for a while now and every other question asked is met with sarcasm, snark or just plain abuse
[18:54] <leftyfb> including almost every time I've asked a question
[18:54] <leftyfb> i've been called an idiot several times
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> who is this leftyfb?
[18:54] <leftyfb> which I'm not contesting, but is certainly uncalled for
[18:54] <hggdh> agree
[18:54] <leftyfb> lotuspsychje: mainly greycat, but I've seen it from others
[18:55] <leftyfb> it's pretty bad
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> crowdy support, omg
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> where is this rush comming from :p
[18:56] <leftyfb> for instance, literally just now
 Can I get find to print results on the same line separated by spaces?
 http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/040
 cousin_luigi: GNU find can, with -printf.
 cousin_luigi: for gnu, look into -printf
 of course this is an idiotic way to present filenames
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> hmm his nick doesnt ring a bell leftyfb
[18:56] <leftyfb> while it might be the wrong way, there's most constructive ways to construe that to the person asking for help
[18:57] <leftyfb> "<greycat> You're doing it so wrong that the other people who are doing it wrong looked at you and were like "Daaaamn.""
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> maybe its bugzie in disquise
[18:59] <leftyfb> nah, this guy actually knows his stuff
[19:00] <oerheks> friday .. trolls are coming
[19:00] <leftyfb> oerheks: unfortunately, I think trolls run that channel
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> those are the worst, volunteers with troll allures
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> back to the game hggdh
[19:02] <hggdh> yep
[19:02] <oerheks> still happy without ops :-D
[19:02] <oerheks> happy with hggdh ofcourse
[19:03] <hggdh> heh
[19:03] <oerheks> really, on PS4 the players run faster
[19:03]  * oerheks climbs on the bar and starts to dance
[19:04] <hggdh> I have seen some trigger-happy ops (and some that would kick/ban *preemptively*)
[19:07]  * leftyfb senses some comments directed his way :)
[19:11] <Bashing-om> sticks and stones may break some bones .,. but words - so long as it is not leftyfb, oerheks. lotuspsychje - can not hurt me :P
[19:13] <hggdh> and there comes Spain...
[19:50] <nacc> EriC^^: not convinced they know where the data they want to backup even is
[19:50] <EriC^^> yes it's so odd
[19:51] <EriC^^> could he have mounted that second ext4 over "/" ?
[19:51] <nacc> i guess it's possible, to have mounted in place
[19:51] <EriC^^> he was messing around earlier with mount commands and whatnot
[19:52] <EriC^^> i dont get why he won't clean upgrade though, keeps dodging those questions
[19:52] <nacc> EriC^^: ah i see
[19:54] <nacc> i mean a reinstall is the right answer here
[19:55] <oerheks> he suffered a lot of hw issues too, curlyears
[20:01] <lotuspsychje_> hggdh: ronaldo did it again!
[20:03] <nacc> oerheks: how much is self-inflicted, though?
[22:57] <Bashing-om> oerheks: I am think'n that BillGHero is receptive to learning how to fish.
[23:35] <pauljw> hi everyone
[23:37] <daftykins> <o/