| eagles0513875 | hi hi | 15:31 |
|---|---|---|
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: heyo | 15:31 |
| eagles0513875 | :D | 15:31 |
| ErichEickmeyer | eagles0513875: Nice! Welcome! | 15:31 |
| eagles0513875 | :) ya so i dunno this cycle how good of a contributor i will be to be fair | 15:32 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Don't worry about your wedding, we wouldn't meet that week anyhow. Besides, even I'm away at a summer camp that week. | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | at the rate im going with hyper-v on this windows gaming tower im going to run into issues getting ubuntu installed on a hyper-v vm that should be interesting | 15:32 |
| ErichEickmeyer | That's fine. I was just browsing the code on -welcome and realized I hadn't fixed the debian control file yet. heh. | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | this is my gaming rig and im doing my mcsa so i am using hyper-v to learn on | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: i have loads to learn | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: do you really think a 6 month release with LTS support every 2 years is a good time frame to release a top notch product | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | and 5 year LTS support | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | compared to centos for example with 10 year support per release | 15:34 |
| eagles0513875 | the only preoccupation and then i need to bounce to be fair is the release time lines every 6 months | 15:34 |
| ErichEickmeyer | eagles0513875: Not really my call, that's 100% Canonical. There are no Canonical employees working on Studio. | 15:34 |
| eagles0513875 | stupid question love me hate me then why not fork and rebrand it under a different name | 15:35 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Because then we lose the server backend and sponsorship that Canonical provides. | 15:35 |
| ErichEickmeyer | And, we wouldn't be able to use the Ubuntu name, which is powerful. | 15:35 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: understood. | 15:36 |
| eagles0513875 | anyway for now im going to bounce | 15:36 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Alright! Welcome aboard! | 15:36 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks | 15:36 |
| eagles0513875 | OvenWerks: hey mate just reading your email now | 15:37 |
| eagles0513875 | OvenWerks: so what you are saying i can install debian for example if im not mistaken even ubuntu is supported on the linux subsystem for windows and work wiht that even though its with out a ui? | 15:37 |
| eagles0513875 | OvenWerks: feel free to copy and paste my comments on to the email and reply on the thread as i need to bounce | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | eagles0513875: I think you would need the ui for that particular application (Welcome) as it would be hard to work on otherwise :) | 16:02 |
| OvenWerks | I do not know if it is possible to work on a ubuntu/debian application from the gnu framework within windows. | 16:14 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Considering it's an app tied to the UI, it wouldn't be possible. | 16:14 |
| OvenWerks | Because this is a SW installation program, it needs to know what is now installed where repos are etc. | 16:15 |
| OvenWerks | There are certain ubuntu/debian utilities it would expect to be hanging around like apt for example. | 16:15 |
| OvenWerks | (maybe bash and other basic things too) | 16:19 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Hey OvenWerks, do you have a moment to look at Bug 1633913? It was a critical bug in Lubuntu so I marked it as a critical bug for us. | 16:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1633913 in ubuntustudio-meta "lubuntu and ubuntustudio are missing pool; can not install without internet connection" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1633913 | 16:21 |
| OvenWerks | I am not sure. | 16:26 |
| OvenWerks | I have as yet been unable to find where their fix was made, everything about the lubuntu package sends me to the ubuntu package :P | 16:27 |
| OvenWerks | I will look some more though. It is probably in their seeds package and the fix is a year old. | 16:27 |
| ErichEickmeyer | tsimonq2: Do you have any insight on that bug? | 16:30 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: im back OvenWerks im back as well | 16:48 |
| eagles0513875 | OvenWerks: your email got me thinking :) about something might be able to setup something on a provider i use need to confirm something | 16:48 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: and OvenWerks figured out what i can use for my dev environment | 16:49 |
| eagles0513875 | have you guys heard of linode | 16:49 |
| eagles0513875 | hey tsimonq2 been a while mate | 16:49 |
| ErichEickmeyer | eagles0513875: wb! I'm about to head out the door to take the dog for a walk and then run some errands. | 16:49 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: hopefully we can chat this weekend or some time as i have some ideas i want to run by you from what we spoke about before | 16:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | eagles0513875: tsimonq2 is helping us get back on our feet after Studio had a near-death experience. | 16:50 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer, tsimonq2: and i know each other :) | 16:50 |
| tsimonq2 | eagles0513875: OH HEY :) | 16:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Long time no see! | 16:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | eagles0513875: Same! Makes me surprised we've never crossed paths! | 16:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Okay, g2g | 16:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | bbl | 16:50 |
| eagles0513875 | tsimonq2: joining the party and helping out here | 16:50 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: | 16:50 |
| eagles0513875 | really quick | 16:50 |
| eagles0513875 | https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/using-the-linode-graphical-shell-glish/ and OvenWerks :D | 16:51 |
| eagles0513875 | linode ftw love those guys and host all my infra on them : ) | 16:51 |
| tsimonq2 | ErichEickmeyer: You'd be looking in the seed for that one. | 16:51 |
| eagles0513875 | so might get a vm going with ubuntu server and install ubuntu studio | 16:51 |
| ErichEickmeyer | eagles0513875: Nice! Not a bad way to work on stuff! | 16:51 |
| eagles0513875 | exactly :) | 16:51 |
| ErichEickmeyer | anyhow, bbl | 16:51 |
| eagles0513875 | heck they even have block storage so do all your work on the block storage and you can have your dev environment al lthere all your files source code etc | 16:53 |
| OvenWerks | tsimonq2: Ya, it looks like you were the one who fixed lubuntu :) | 17:24 |
| tsimonq2 | OvenWerks: It's a seed issue. | 17:28 |
| OvenWerks | Ya, I am looking at the git repo for lubuntu seeds | 17:28 |
| OvenWerks | I am not sure which commit fixed this issue though | 17:29 |
| OvenWerks | https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu/commit/?id=f39c7b82337754ecfb44731136cdd13a4b44f042 maybe? | 17:30 |
| OvenWerks | ErichEickmeyer: I looked at lubuntu's fix for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1633913 and it does not look like the same fix would be aplicable to Studio from what I can tell. But I am not in any way good at seeds. | 17:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1633913 in ubuntustudio-meta "lubuntu and ubuntustudio are missing pool; can not install without internet connection" [Critical,Confirmed] | 17:48 |
| OvenWerks | In fact after looking at our seeds some more I am thinking that if we want more than one ISO produced, we don't create a second seed, but add file and entries to the one we have. | 17:49 |
| OvenWerks | before I mess around any more... I need to read some documentation | 17:50 |
| eagles0513875 | ErichEickmeyer: im not going anywhere aparently | 17:58 |
| eagles0513875 | guys got a stupid question is there a meta package for studio? | 18:04 |
| tsimonq2 | eagles0513875: There is. | 18:17 |
| eagles0513875 | excellent :) | 18:17 |
| tsimonq2 | OvenWerks: I'd have to dig more. | 18:17 |
| tsimonq2 | OvenWerks: Got a link to your seed? | 18:20 |
| ErichEickmeyer | tsimonq2: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.xenial | 18:55 |
| OvenWerks | um maybe something more recent than that? | 20:27 |
| OvenWerks | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.cosmic | 20:27 |
| ErichEickmeyer | OvenWerks: The bug was filed against xenial. | 20:33 |
| === eagles0513876 is now known as eagles0513875 | ||
| krytarik | ErichEickmeyer, OvenWerks: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.artful/revision/1508 , https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/revision/1665 - haven't read the whole log on it today yet, but I guess if someone was so inclined, they could try and backport the fix to Xenial. | 22:10 |
| OvenWerks | krytarik: quite honestly, if it is fixed now, I am happy. | 22:12 |
| ErichEickmeyer | IMO, we need to backport it to Xenial if we're still supporting it until April 2019. | 22:15 |
| OvenWerks | ErichEickmeyer: I am not against fixing this just not willing to spend my personal time on it. | 22:54 |
| * ErichEickmeyer grumbles about how specific the changelog format is. | 23:22 | |
| OvenWerks | use dch | 23:22 |
| OvenWerks | well that doesn't do everything just right either | 23:23 |
| OvenWerks | starting after a release needs a tweak | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | releasing needs a tweak too as the tools are debian based not ubuntu based. | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | but everything in between is easy :) | 23:25 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Yeah, I don't mind manually typing it, but dang! Miss one space and BAM! Fail. | 23:32 |
| krytarik | I see you guys keep on adding new changelog sections (with a release set) on top of unreleased ones. | 23:35 |
| OvenWerks | thas prolly me. | 23:37 |
| OvenWerks | When I started, the release didn't make it in there unless the package was actually uploaded | 23:37 |
| OvenWerks | that doesn't seem to be happening | 23:37 |
| tsimonq2 | Right, I was going to work on a packaging policy... | 23:40 |
| tsimonq2 | hmm | 23:40 |
| OvenWerks | normally the package remains UNRELEASED untill someone with upload rights is about to actually upload something | 23:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Indeed. | 23:43 |
| OvenWerks | Then the UNRELEASED is replaced by the cycle name it is released to. | 23:43 |
| * tsimonq2 nods | 23:44 | |
| OvenWerks | so -menu needs to have the changelog fixed | 23:44 |
| OvenWerks | -icon-theme is ok so long as it really gets actually released :) | 23:45 |
| OvenWerks | -defaull-settings needs a fix too. | 23:46 |
| ErichEickmeyer | OvenWerks: I just fixed it. | 23:46 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Er, -menu | 23:46 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Am I screwing up the changelogs?!? | 23:46 |
| ErichEickmeyer | If so, how? | 23:46 |
| OvenWerks | if the is a section that is UNRELEASED your changes go in that section. | 23:47 |
| tsimonq2 | You're starting a new entry when there's already one as UNRELEASED. | 23:47 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah. | 23:47 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 23:47 |
| OvenWerks | when the package is ready to be released the section on top with the UNRELEASED has the word UNRELEASED replaced with cosmic | 23:47 |
| tsimonq2 | (via dch -r) | 23:47 |
| OvenWerks | right, but with cosmic as the relaese rather than whatever debian word is default | 23:48 |
| OvenWerks | ErichEickmeyer: take a look at the changelog for -look | 23:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Not really; if you're on Ubuntu it should DTRT automatically. | 23:49 |
| OvenWerks | tsimonq2: it could be I remember from years gone by | 23:49 |
| tsimonq2 | OvenWerks: Out of curiosity, how extensive is your packaging experience? | 23:49 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 23:50 |
| OvenWerks | very small | 23:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | OvenWerks: Looking. | 23:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Mind if I type up a small packaging guide with best practices? | 23:50 |
| OvenWerks | I have only done the meta/settings packages Studio ships. | 23:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | tsimonq2: Go for it. | 23:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah. | 23:50 |
| tsimonq2 | ErichEickmeyer: Cool. | 23:50 |
| OvenWerks | I would welocome that | 23:50 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Okay, so don't bump the version number with a minor change, such as an icon? | 23:51 |
| OvenWerks | only bump the version if there is a real release with upload | 23:52 |
| OvenWerks | to fix what we have will probably require skipping a version. | 23:53 |
| * ErichEickmeyer facepalms | 23:53 | |
| tsimonq2 | I doubt it. | 23:53 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Okay, sorry for screwing everything up. | 23:53 |
| tsimonq2 | ErichEickmeyer: You're fine. :) | 23:53 |
| OvenWerks | tsimonq2: well it will if we want to keep our auto builds working right :) | 23:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh. | 23:53 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 23:53 |
| OvenWerks | ErichEickmeyer: you haven't learned anything if you don't make mistakes. | 23:54 |
| tsimonq2 | I wouldn't personally worry about that; just delete the packages in the PPA. | 23:54 |
| OvenWerks | tsimonq2: right, that makes sense too. | 23:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Also, I haven't seen anyone do it yet, but whatever you do, NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER use epochs if you screw up the version number. :) | 23:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Epochs Are Evil. :P | 23:54 |
| OvenWerks | epocs? | 23:55 |
| ErichEickmeyer | epochs? | 23:55 |
| tsimonq2 | If you put e.g. "1:" at the beginning of the version number, that's an epoch. | 23:55 |
| tsimonq2 | It basically resets the version number. | 23:55 |
| tsimonq2 | So if you do e.g. 0.103 as an upload, you can't go down. You'd have to do 1:0.1 | 23:56 |
| tsimonq2 | But AVOID IT AT ALL COSTS. :) | 23:56 |
| OvenWerks | why not 1.0? | 23:56 |
| tsimonq2 | Exactly. | 23:56 |
| OvenWerks | one wants to keep a reasonable history | 23:56 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Gotta go guys. Dinner with the fam. | 23:59 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!