[00:43] <xubuntu68w> Hello
[00:43] <xubuntu68w> is someone there?
[07:08] <xubuntu74i> H
[07:09] <pmjdebru1jn> lo
[07:10] <xubuntu74i> installing
[07:10] <pmjdebru1jn> ok
[08:09] <nomike> Hi!
[08:11] <nomike> I've upgraded my (X)ubuntu 17.10 to 18.04 and now, I can't login to any Xfce4 or Xubuntu sessions. I get the Balou starter (the mouse) and after a couple of seconds it drops back to gdm. Any ideas of how to debug this?
[08:12] <pmjdebru1jn> gdm?
[08:12] <pmjdebru1jn> presumably you mean lightdm?
[08:12] <nomike> or lightdm, whatever is uses nowadays.
[08:12] <pmjdebru1jn> nomike: if you create a new user, do you still have the issue?
[08:12] <pmjdebru1jn> as in, is it homedir related or not?
[08:12] <nomike> yes, still have the same issue
[08:13] <nomike> i was expecting some ".Xsession-errors" or similar named file to show up.
[08:17] <diogenes_> nomike, you could try to edit: /usr/share/xsession/xubuntu.desktop and modify exec=xterm
[08:24] <nomike> I managed to login this way. Will have a look at the console output of "startxfce4". It started up but there are lot's of errors. Some cache seems to be corrupt and stuff like that.
[08:25] <nomike> Thx for now, this was a great help.
[08:25] <diogenes_> nomike, you managed to login what way?
[08:28] <nomike> I modified the session script to start xterm. And in xterm I executed "startxfce4 &".
[08:29] <nomike> I have no clue yet why it worked like that, but I'm trying to find out.
[08:29] <diogenes_> the xterm should have given you a hint what the error might be
[08:32] <nomike> https://pastebin.com/T1RSphfd There are some errors about missing files in "/home/micpos/" resulting from temporarily renaming my user from "micpos" to "nomike" which could be ignored for now.
[14:01] <FurretUber> How do I make the system aware a specific connection has limited data?
[14:03] <FurretUber> I'm connecting to internet using USB Tethering but I would not like the OS/applications downloading updates while using it (unattended-upgrades)
[15:50] <dogon> hello everyone can someone help me?
[15:50] <ErichEickmeyer> Oh and...
[15:51] <ErichEickmeyer> !ask | dogon
[15:51] <dogon> are you a trouble?
[15:51] <dogon> please anyone can help meee
[15:51] <ErichEickmeyer> No, I'm an Ubuntu Studio developer, just trying to point you in the right direction. :)
[15:52] <dogon> you had tel me atall then
[15:52] <ErichEickmeyer> That said, I don't know everything.
[15:52] <dogon> you sad me xubuntu channel for my search
[15:52] <dogon> here i am
[15:52] <dogon> who are you?
[15:52] <ErichEickmeyer> Yes, but someone here might know your issue. I'm just trying to point you in the right direction.
[15:52] <dogon> who are you?
[15:53] <dogon> who are you?
[15:53] <dogon> whoareyou
[15:57] <dogon> ubuntu studio'ya compiz kurdum ama yeniden başlattığımda devre dışı kalıyor. Bunu nasıl kalıcı yapabilirm?
[15:58] <n-iCe> hi guys
[15:58] <dogon> hello can you help me n-iCe
[15:58] <n-iCe> would be the ligheweight the only option to move to xubuntu? talking about ubuntu of course.
[15:59] <n-iCe> lightweight
[15:59] <dogon> are you talking about my iisuue?
[15:59] <xulubuntu> anyone having issues when trying to change the number of workspaces?
[16:00] <n-iCe> what?
[16:00] <diogenes_> n-iCe, no, it's not the only reason
[16:00] <n-iCe> what others
[16:00] <dogon> i just ask my issue
[16:00] <dogon> are you talking about my issue?
[16:00] <diogenes_> n-iCe, another reason it's the magic that xubuntu team put inside the distro and i'll tell you what i mean by this
[16:01] <dogon> i am xfce atall
[16:01] <n-iCe> diogenes_: ok
[16:01] <diogenes_> n-iCe, i've had a brand new laptop to fix and to install an OS on it, brand new Asus
[16:02] <n-iCe> ok
[16:02] <dogon> i am asking again
[16:02] <diogenes_> i've tried pretty much any distro available, ubuntu, mint, suse, solus, linux lite and many many many others and you know what? xubuntu was the only distro that booted and installed perfectly
[16:02] <dogon> please help me
[16:02] <diogenes_> others didn't even boot
[16:03] <n-iCe> diogenes_: isn't weird? xubuntu is ubuntu based
[16:03] <dogon> i am asking you about compiz and ubuntu studio
[16:03] <dogon> not working
[16:03] <n-iCe> no boot changes should be affected
[16:03] <dogon> please someone help me
[16:04] <diogenes_> n-iCe, weird but nevertheless if you got and xubuntu stick, you can to to the edge of the world and you know it will never let you down, it will  work on any pc
[16:04] <ErichEickmeyer> We in the #ubuntustudio don't have the answer, so I'm hoping someone in here has an answer, so I pointed him here.
[16:04] <dogon> are you talking with me can you hit warm
[16:04] <diogenes_> go to*
[16:04] <n-iCe> tried debian?
[16:04] <n-iCe> people say is really stable
[16:04] <ErichEickmeyer> !patience | dogon
[16:04] <diogenes_> n-iCe, debian? for simple customers? hehe
[16:04] <diogenes_> not an option
[16:04] <n-iCe> I see
[16:04] <n-iCe> Are you actually using xubuntu right now?
[16:05] <diogenes_> of course
[16:05] <n-iCe> Then gonna try it my friend, downloading right now.
[16:05] <dogon> no i am using studio lightweight
[16:05] <diogenes_> definitely the best choice
[16:05] <n-iCe> 18.04, Bionic Beaver right
[16:05] <diogenes_> yes, zero bugs, i'm looking to catch at least one :)
[16:06] <diogenes_> dogon, we still didn't see or heard or read any issues you're facing.
[16:07] <n-iCe> downloaded, gonna move it to my usb
[16:07] <dogon> can you give me +
[16:07] <dogon> for speak
[16:07] <dogon> +
[16:08] <xulubuntu> Hi all I have a problem trying to change the number of workspaces in xfwm4. I just cannot modify the number with the keyboard and when I click to the arrows with the mouse it runs crazy and the number changes like randomly until I have to kill the process, can you help me?
[16:08] <n-iCe> dogon: you are speaking, say your actually problem dude.
[16:09] <dogon> why dont you help me
[16:09] <dogon> ?
[16:09] <n-iCe> troll detected
[16:09] <dogon> i am not troll your are wrong
[16:09] <n-iCe> !kick dogon
[16:09] <dogon> i have fresh installed ubuntustudio 18.04
[16:09] <n-iCe> dogon: ok, and?
[16:09] <ErichEickmeyer> n-iCe: He has an Xfce-compiz issue.
[16:10] <dogon> i have to solve sreentaaring
[16:10] <n-iCe> what issue
[16:10] <dogon> and i installed compiz but
[16:10] <n-iCe> dogon: did you reboot?
[16:10] <n-iCe> you have any error messages?
[16:10] <dogon> after rreboot compiz not working
[16:10] <dogon> i am not troll
[16:10] <n-iCe> check logs, and pastebin errors
[16:10] <diogenes_> dogon, wait wait wait
[16:10] <dogon> noot when bootin
[16:10] <diogenes_> compiz is what is use too
[16:11] <n-iCe> where are you from?
[16:11] <dogon> i had installed about compiz all
[16:11] <n-iCe> where are you from?
[16:11] <diogenes_> dogon, run in terminal: compiz --replace
[16:11] <dogon> turkey
[16:11] <ErichEickmeyer> n-iCe: He asked the question in turkish, I already used !tr to redirect him.
[16:11] <dogon> i had tryed but after reboot
[16:11] <dogon> not working
[16:11] <diogenes_> dogon, wait
[16:12] <diogenes_> don't go that far
[16:12] <n-iCe> intel? nvidia? give more details
[16:12] <dogon> ohh yes finaly
[16:12] <diogenes_> let's take one step at a time
[16:12] <dogon> nvidia but opensource
[16:12] <xulubuntu> ok, I don't want to be just in the middle of a discussion. I need help with this below, if anyone can help me please send me a private message ->
[16:12] <xulubuntu> Hi all I have a problem trying to change the number of workspaces in xfwm4. I just cannot modify the number with the keyboard and when I click to the arrows with the mouse it runs crazy and the number changes like randomly until I have to kill the process, can you help me?
[16:12] <dogon> you are paraoic
[16:13] <diogenes_> !patience | xulubuntu
[16:14] <n-iCe> dogon: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2374405
[16:14] <n-iCe> is that your issue?
[16:14] <n-iCe> ok, xubuntu is in my usb, BRB wish me luck!
[16:14] <dogon> i am looking
[16:15] <dogon> on thisi is not
[16:16] <dogon> becoz i am using opensource driver this for nvidia driver
[16:16] <diogenes_> dogon, does compiz work when you run: compiz --replace?
[16:16] <dogon> yes
[16:16] <dogon> i just want to fix after reboot
[16:17] <dogon> but i dont know how
[16:17] <diogenes_> ok now, how did you add compiz to run at startup?
[16:17] <dogon> my settings gone after reboot
[16:17] <diogenes_> ok open the terminal
[16:17] <dogon> i couldnt
[16:17] <diogenes_> what?
[16:17] <dogon> generally it was automaticly
[16:18] <dogon> okey
[16:18] <dogon> yes opened
[16:18] <diogenes_> did you open the terminal?
[16:18] <dogon> yes
[16:18] <diogenes_> run: cat ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:18] <diogenes_> paste here the link you get in terminal
[16:19] <dogon> i pasted
[16:19] <diogenes_> dogon, what did you get in terminal?
[16:19] <diogenes_> after running the command?
[16:25] <dogon_> are you there?
[16:25] <dogon_> diogenes_,
[16:25] <diogenes_> dogon_, i asked you a question
[16:25] <diogenes_> you didn't reply
[16:26] <dogon_> terminal wasnt give me anything
[16:26] <dogon_> i had pasted everything
[16:26] <dogon_>  cat ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:26] <dogon_> http://termbin.com/lwhp
[16:26] <dogon_> there is all
[16:26] <diogenes_> you see. there is the link that i needed
[16:27] <diogenes_> this one [16:27] <dogon_> what doest is this mean?
[16:28] <diogenes_> ok now run: cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml
[16:28] <diogenes_> just tell me when done
[16:28] <dogon_> i think something missing
[16:29] <dogon_> is have to be " / "
[16:29] <dogon_> isnt it?
[16:29] <diogenes_> did you run the command?
[16:29] <dogon_> be coz it dont give me anything
[16:29] <diogenes_> that's fine
[16:29] <diogenes_> that means that command was executed with no errors
[16:30] <diogenes_> ok now run: cat ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:30] <diogenes_> and paste here the link
[16:30] <dogon_> cp /etc/xdg/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml
[16:30] <dogon_> it gives me this error
[16:30] <dogon_> some missing
[16:31] <diogenes_> dogon_, run the command i have given you above
[16:31] <dogon_> okey
[16:37] <diogenes_> dogon_, i've got 10 minutes only, so if we don't manage to set the things up then gule gule
[16:38] <dogon_> i did
[16:38] <n-iCe> Dammit
[16:38] <n-iCe> diogenes_: I love you.
[16:38] <diogenes_> n-iCe, :D
[16:38] <n-iCe> Really, looks amazing, EVRYTHING is working.
[16:38] <dogon_> i did it but terminal gives me nothing i am not liing
[16:38] <diogenes_> n-iCe, toldya
[16:39] <n-iCe> dammit
[16:39] <n-iCe> first time trying it
[16:39] <diogenes_> dogon_, paste here what you get in terminal
[16:39] <n-iCe> are you always around diogenes_ ?
[16:39] <dogon_> terminal nothing gives me
[16:39] <dogon_> cat ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:39] <dogon_> thats all
[16:39] <diogenes_> n-iCe, one hint in order to speed up the start and shutdown, disable cups from session and startup
[16:40] <n-iCe> well, I use ssd, don't even notice any lag
[16:40] <n-iCe> but sure will do, thanks diogenes_
[16:40] <diogenes_> dogon_, no that's not all
[16:40] <dogon_> i am trying again
[16:40] <n-iCe> don't see cups
[16:40] <n-iCe> I remember it is the print queue applet?
[16:40] <diogenes_> dogon_, after you run the command you gonna get a link
[16:41] <dogon_> cat ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-session.xml | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:41] <diogenes_> n-iCe, yes print queue
[16:41] <n-iCe> done thanks
[16:41] <diogenes_> yw
[16:41] <diogenes_> dogon_, did you press enter?
[16:41] <dogon_> this is link but what is this? i dont know
[16:41] <dogon_> yes
[16:41] <dogon_> i did
[16:42] <diogenes_> after you pressed enter copy and paste here everything what you have in terminal
[16:42] <diogenes_> starting with the first command to the last letter, sign
[16:42] <dogon_> oo i didnt know you didnt tell me about this
[16:43] <dogon_> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[16:43] <dogon_> <channel name="xfce4-session" version="1.0">
[16:43] <dogon_>   <property name="general" type="empty">
[16:43] <dogon_>     <property name="FailsafeSessionName" type="string" value="Failsafe"/>
[16:43] <dogon_>   </property>
[16:43] <dogon_>   <property name="sessions" type="empty">
[16:44] <diogenes_> omg, it will be tough
[16:44] <diogenes_> dogon_, don't paste anything in here anymore\
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[16:44] <dogon_> these are
[16:44] <dogon_> channel giving error
[16:44] <dogon_> "<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[16:44] <dogon_> <channel name="xfce4-session" version="1.0">
[16:44] <diogenes_> instead find my nickname in the list, right click on it
[16:44] <dogon_>   <property name="general" type="empty">
[16:44] <diogenes_> stoppppppppppp
[16:45] <diogenes_> find my nickname in the list, right click on it and start a private chat
[16:45] <diogenes_> write to me in private
[16:45] <dogon_>   <property name="splash" type="empty">
[16:45] <dogon_>     <property name="Engine" type="string" value=""/>
[16:45] <dogon_>   </property>
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[16:45] <dogon_> "
[16:46] <dogon_> i stopped what should i do?
[16:46] <n-iCe> oops
[16:46] <n-iCe> he just flooded the channel
[16:47] <diogenes_> yeah that's tough
[16:48] <xulubuntu> Please, can you help me with this? I have a problem trying to change the number of workspaces in xfwm4. I just cannot modify the number with the keyboard and when I click to the arrows with the mouse it runs crazy and the number changes randomly until I have to kill the process. I've search on the forums and I don't find any answer.
[16:48] <dogon_> i am not a developer you have tu understand
[16:48] <dogon_> at last
[18:53] <Specracer> join
[21:12] <moregot> what is the best x enviorment for ubuntu_
[21:15] <knome> let's think... which channel you are asking?
[21:15] <moregot> oh ok.. sorry about that im jsut asking here if im right?
[21:15] <moregot> or best for server hostiong
[21:16] <knome> if you ask xubuntu, the channel for ubuntu with the xfce desktop, then the answer is very likely xfce...
[21:17] <xangua> What's the best panel for xfce? :-P
[21:20] <Unit193> tint2
[21:21] <moregot> ok is that the X desktop that have slightly orange look?
[21:21] <moregot> purple?
[21:21] <knome> moregot, you seem a bit lost... what are you looking from your desktop environment? lightness? lots of features? wallpaper color?
[21:23] <moregot> the theme of the envgiroment that looks good, i guess its xfce but with cool stuff light kde?
[21:24] <moregot> nefver mind
[21:24] <moregot> thanksd
[23:48] <canary> i've got a stuck installer, looking for advice on what to do
[23:49] <canary> can anyone help?
[23:57] <well_laid_lawn> canary:  how is it stuck ?
[23:57] <well_laid_lawn> what's happening ?