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ubptgbot<amolith> I've had a couple of people ask me (both IRL and in other TG groups) if there's a way to try Ubuntu Touch before installing it, like something they can put in VirtualBox. Is this a thing, does it need to be a thing, or does it need to not be a thing?00:23
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/this-week-in-mir-15th-june-2018/655800:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> @amolith, It is not really a thing00:58
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> hi  - I'm trying to install touch on a nexus 5 using the Mac app.01:55
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> I've gotten to the "please reboot to bootloader" screen, which I've done but nothing is happening01:56
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> I tried selecting "start" but that didn't help either01:56
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> I had to manually select the device too, but I think the app recognized that it was connected01:57
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> ....not sure now though.01:57
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> Is the device sensitive to the type of cable?01:57
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> changed cables twice...no difference02:06
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @amolith, as discussed in multiple gseveral times in several groups - this could be solved by all of us doing @popescu_sorin style videos online so people can see all the parts without trying.  otherwise, let them install it and join the party to see it, I say. :)03:10
ubptgbot<amolith> @wayneoutthere, I'm still trying to figure out `ffmpeg`` so I can encode the raw video file I have of UT so we can have some screen recordings for youtube03:12
ubptgbot<amolith> @wayneoutthere, [Edit] I'm still trying to figure out `ffmpeg` so I can encode the raw video file I have of UT so we can have some screen recordings for youtube03:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wayneoutthere, Videos don't give a feeling. They're a good start, but don't really let you preview the experience. You can't use someone else's phone vicariously through them03:18
ubptgbot<v1kky> LSD - Audio ft. Sia, Diplo, Labrinth (HOPEX & Ugo Melone Remix) … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMkHRMUWWo03:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @v1kky please keep off-topic chat to @ubports_ot03:22
ubptgbot<amolith> @dohbee, At SELF, I ended up passing my phone around a group of almost 20 people lol03:24
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @dohbee, this is true. best thing is loca community ... but until then, videos help04:07
ubptgbot<Buck Montana> quick clarifction - I've posted a couple of questions here, but got no response....am I posting in the wrong group?04:28
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> @Buck Montana, Installation questions best asked in https://t.me/WelcomePlus04:51
ubptgbot<Mase Samrat> Can i install ubuntu touch on samsung a9 pro?05:56
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @K31j0, Hi Kejo, i'm just read the backlog, yes i have still my Sailfish OS device Jolla C here, so if i'm not mistake you have proting problems ?06:08
ubptgbot<Xray2000> @K31j0, [Edit] Hi Kejo, i'm just read the backlog, yes i have still my Sailfish OS device Jolla C here, so if i'm not mistake you have porting problems ?06:09
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> @Mase Samrat, Here is the list of devices https://devices.ubports.com/#/06:54
ubptgbot<Jo_Led> @fourloop2002, Isn't that the super old homepage, that they won't put down for some reason?07:00
ubptgbot<Jo_Led> Try that one: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/07:01
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> Yes it was the old one. Just trying to keep history alive 😉08:04
ubptgbotSrinath Uthay was added by: Srinath Uthay08:07
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Buck Montana, Sounds like you didn't set the 'path' as in the manual 😃 Late reply was probably because people were asleep08:11
ubptgbot<advocatux> Argh I have nightmares with that old page, why is it still online? 😆08:57
ubptgbot<advocatux> @K31j0 it's in a very early stage but maybe you could be interested in this project https://t.me/UBports_pi08:59
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ubptgbotyugalsaluja was added by: yugalsaluja09:39
ubptgbot<advocatux> @yugalsaluja, Hi Yugal, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started09:43
ubptgbot<andreasimonetti> do you know if there is any way to sync contacts and massages between two ubuntu phones?  they have similar but a bit different .db.. is it right to use syncthing.. i don't want to use the cloud.. i would like to make it localy. thanks11:03
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> anybody noticed gosht lost calls or twisted info with the lost calls? … I noticed rightknow that i've got three lost calls in notification area. … looks like two of them were true and one is very strange: … The strange lost call sais in the notification area that were from one contact X. If i go to phone app it sais that is from cont11:49
ubptgbotact Y. … And if i push over the lost call from contact Y it appears that is a number from other country that i haven't stored.11:49
ubptgbot<Seannyboy> (Voice, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/3Z29LZ2H.oga11:51
ubptgbot<Seannyboy> Sorry. Please ignore11:51
ubptgbot<advocatux> Deleted, and this is not the first time you've posted something like that. Please be more careful in the future11:52
ubptgbot<advocatux> @j2g2rp I don't see anything weird on my missed calls list11:55
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zxGD5PL5.webp11:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> @andreasimonetti, there isn't really a nice way to do this, no. you could copy the dbs from both phones to a PC, merge the dbs there, and then copy back to both phones, i suppose12:30
ubptgbot<andreasimonetti> ok so is there a recomended program to merge so? thanks12:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, the data is stored in sqlite dbs12:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> messages would have to be merged manually using sqlite12:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> contacts could be done a little less manually with Evolution, but it's still going to be a pretty manual process, and likely you could end up breaking things12:34
ubptgbot<andreasimonetti> ok i 'll give a try..thk again 👍12:35
ubptgbot<Linuxman1> Fwd from vanyasem: my rootfs is not based on ubuntu12:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Linuxman1, yes, he's trying to build an arch based version. which is likely going to be quite problematic in terms of making apps work, of course12:41
ubptgbot<Linuxman1> Sorry, my Telegram is missbehaving, I did not mean to forward it.12:54
ubptgbot<Mase Samrat> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/qUqELtjH.png I will install ubuntu touch on my phone but, why?14:18
ubptgbot<libremax> Devices supported : https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/14:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> Also, we do not support MultiROM14:20
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @andreasimonetti, I migrated these databases from MX4 to MP5 to ensure continuity when I upgraded devices. I don't maintain a constant sync as my MX4 is a rarely used Xenial tester device while the MP5 is a daily driver stable Vivid. I can't go into much detail now (I'm on a train to a relaxing weekend in London) but if14:25
ubptgbotyou're still interested in a couple of days, I will attempt to remind myself and offer advice.14:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan, the question wasn't just how to copy from one device to another, but how to merge both dbs onto both devices, which is way more complicated14:26
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I know, but if there's anything she might find helpful from my (more narrow) implementation, I'll be glad to assist.14:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan, she? they, buddy. they. :)14:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> ("Andrea" is a male name too, in Italian :)14:44
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> My bad, seemed like a safe call there.14:56
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ubptgbot<dohbee> @advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere ^^ spam removal please?15:10
ubptgbot<advocatux> Done :)15:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> thanks :)15:11
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ubptgbot<dohbee> sheesh15:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> how many of them are there?15:12
ubptgbot<advocatux> I'm deleting accounts but those bots... 😅15:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah15:16
ubptgbot<AstonishedByTheLackOfNeko> Fwd from Lawnchair: https://saveyourinternet.eu … VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US! … This could be an end to us if it doesn't get stopped!15:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> please don't spam the supergroup15:17
ubptgbot<advocatux> Removed. Not a good time to spam the SG, I'm on an anti-spammer frenzy 😂15:26
ubptgbot<FreeRedBroccoli> How many of you are getting the Librem 5 when it drops?15:50
ubptgbot<jonny> @FreeRedBroccoli, I would love to buy it. But I won't as long as my FP2 works well.16:00
ubptgbot<FreeRedBroccoli> @jonny, What is that?16:05
ubptgbot<amolith> There was some way to set the indicator clock and the lock screen clock to 24 hour time. I don't remember it now. Anyone else remember?16:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @amolith, Could you set your location to Chile or Uruguay and get 24hr by default for your time zone?16:28
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> It's 24HR for me in BST.16:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Same lol16:32
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Have any Libertine-heads tried using valgrind or it's GUI frontend, alleyoop in the container? I'm wondering if confinement forbids this app which I want to use to debug code for memory allocation.16:53
ubptgbot<andreasimonetti> @TartanSpartan, yes.. i am a man .. but don't worry, not offended.. my problem is how to merge two similar databases.. would be cool to have an automated app to do this .. but i understand sometimes the hard way is the best..16:59
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Fair enough :)17:06
ubptgbot<jonny> @FreeRedBroccoli, Fairphone17:13
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Rotten luck today, I have to use the London Underground and then see family (as nice as that is) during the live show. Gonna try and follow it live as best I can, regardless.17:47
ubptgbot<David_Gamiz_Jimenez> @Flohack thanks for the update and the all work that you make. If possible that telegram scope stop working? I have until yet 15.04 version in my bq 4.5.17:49
ubptgbot<Flohack> Can be, yes.17:49
ubptgbot<David_Gamiz_Jimenez> Okey, is a minor bug for a big jump to 16.04. In this the scopes are out no?17:50
ubptgbot<Flohack> Well I am afraid the will remain in partly functional, partly dysfunctional state :)17:51
ubptgbot<David_Gamiz_Jimenez> Is a collateral result. Don't worry. Thanks! 😉17:56
ubptgbot<FreeRedBroccoli> @jonny, I think there will be a way to run Android apps in the future.18:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan, well, you can't run it on anything outside the container really, from inside. i don't see why you couldn't run it inside the container on anything else inside the container18:27
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Link for the Q&A?18:57
ubptgbot<advocatux> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndQZz5FfKk18:57
ubptgbot<Flohack> Yeah wea re warming up already!18:59
ubptgbot<Flohack> Super excited!18:59
ubptgbot<Stereofont> FKK? 😂18:59
ubptgbot<advocatux> lol18:59
ubptgbot<mariogrip> Fwd from UBports News Channel: We are live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndQZz5FfKk18:59
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @mariogrip, I haven't missed it! Yay!19:00
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Flohack Beautiful baby !!19:01
ubptgbot<Flohack> thx :)19:01
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Congratulations!19:01
ubptgbotVijaykrishnaParvathaneni was added by: VijaykrishnaParvathaneni19:02
ubptgbot<buthelovesyou> Congratulations @Flohack for @Flohack_v2.0 😁19:04
ubptgbot<Flohack> hehe19:04
ubptgbot<advocatux> @VijaykrishnaParvathaneni, Hi Vijaykrishna, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started19:04
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Congratulations boss Flo!!!19:05
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Unpredictiness. Love it 😊19:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, devel shouldn't break things either ;)19:12
ubptgbot<Flohack> hehe well should19:13
ubptgbot<DiogoConstantino> ideally development would be safe enough for it not to brake19:13
ubptgbot<DiogoConstantino> [Edit] ideally development would be safe enough for it not to break19:13
ubptgbot<DiogoConstantino> but that's not realistic19:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> we should have CI block images that are too large from getting pushed to the image server19:14
ubptgbot<Flohack> @dohbee, We did not even know all partition sizes from all devices until now ;)19:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, this is why the retail devices can't do flashing direct from android, for example19:16
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @dohbee, I'll share screenshots later. Valgrind was just constantly saying "illegal operation" for all input.19:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> well gnome/debian are self-hosting too19:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> not using the gitlab hosted service19:19
ubptgbot<mariogrip> We have an issue to setup a automated test with qemu and also I have a script ready to block when over the limit19:19
ubptgbot<mariogrip> looking for people to help collect cache sizes https://papad.org/p/ubp-devices-cache-space19:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan, well that's probably the SIGILL in a library that's expected on armhf19:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> normally it gets trapped19:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> and GDPR compliance19:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> is something you don't want to deal with19:22
ubptgbot<MichaelTunnell> GitLab is only free to open source if you don't make any money19:24
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @MichaelTunnell, for selfhosted yes, but for gitlab.com evey open source projects get gold for free19:26
ubptgbot<MichaelTunnell> @mariogrip, There is also a stipulation there about making money19:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> @MichaelTunnell, uh no?19:27
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @dohbee, https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/#gitlab-com19:27
ubptgbot<mariogrip> (Photo, 1134x284) https://irc.ubports.com/lT9wsl4N.png19:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah i wasn't questioning you @mariogrip19:28
ubptgbot<mariogrip> oh sorry :P19:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> there's no stipulation that you can't make any money whatsoever19:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> it doesn't matter what communication method is used, if there are a lot of people involved, there is going to be a lot of unread messages19:32
ubptgbot<Zack> Guys can I enable developer mode from the ubuntu terminal on my PC?19:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, not really. you have to enable it on the phone19:33
ubptgbot<MichaelTunnell> https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/05/gitlab-ultimate-and-gold-free-for-education-and-open-source/ … "which does not seek to make profit from the resulting project software" … this stipulation needs to be clarified because do they require foundations or what. UBports makes enough in sponsorship that it might not be applicable i19:34
ubptgbots all I'm saying.19:34
ubptgbot<Zack> And if the button doesn't respond? 😅19:34
ubptgbot<Zack> Can I enable it from shell on the device?19:34
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @MichaelTunnell, Well ubports does not seek to make profit at all, we are non-profit so we can't19:35
ubptgbot<MichaelTunnell> telegram is a little more difficult to use than other methods in some cases. Like for example a discourse would be a good option for long term discussion. … mailing lists are torture19:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> @MichaelTunnell, a) this is only if you want ultimate or gold features. b) there are very few open source projects where this even makes sense as a claim.19:38
ubptgbot<MichaelTunnell> @dohbee, 😎👍19:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> logind is a separate issue from removing mir support from lightdm19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> unity8 requires lightdm for the lock screen and unity8 greeter19:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> we need to move the uitk to be based on qqc219:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> the sdk itself is another huge issue19:44
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @dohbee, true, for the greeter we will have a problem19:47
ubptgbot<mariogrip> but the greeter is no needed19:48
ubptgbot<dohniks> hehe. thanks. Answered!19:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> well greeter would be nice to keep to have a full mir+unity8 system19:48
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @dohbee, not really, since mir does not have access to run, the mir support worked around by spawning a server in lightdm (to then use mir on mir)19:49
ubptgbot<mariogrip> @dohbee, true, but there is ways around this. but not strictly needed for desktop tough. for phone its needed, but xenial wont get the new lightdm19:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, don't use debs.19:59
ubptgbot<dohbee> anyone can build their own purely deb system based on top of halium if that's what they want20:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> no need to provide support it directly in UT20:03
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Flohack Telegram is working on xenial for me20:04
ubptgbot<advocatux> after the latest update20:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> legacy arm apps can be run under libertine just fine if people want those20:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> we give you the sand, build your own wing of the castle20:06
ubptgbot<advocatux> I say that because someone is saying "Flo telegram is not working on xenial after the last update today" on YT chat20:06
ubptgbotNovichokUA was added by: NovichokUA20:08
ubptgbot<Flohack> @dohbee, yess20:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> just stop building apps on vivid20:09
ubptgbot<advocatux> disco time !!20:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> jan is causing someone to have a seizure20:10
ubptgbot<samitormanen> 😂20:10
ubptgbot<Zack> Does somebody know how I can activate the developer mode, the button doesn't slide20:11
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Zack, Set a PIN code first20:11
ubptgbot<Zack> @Flohack, Thank you, I will20:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> you have to have PIN/passphrase in use, yes20:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> it should tell you that though20:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> put a couple books under your laptop and pull the screen forward @mariogrip20:12
ubptgbot<advocatux> @NovichokUA, Hi Novichok, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started20:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah, much better @mariogrip20:13
ubptgbot<samitormanen> 👍20:14
ubptgbot<advocatux> Great Q&A again, guys 👍20:14
ubptgbot<samitormanen> thanks again!20:15
ubptgbot<DiogoConstantino> Thanks for the Q&A!!!20:15
ubptgbot<Flohack> youre welcome20:15
ubptgbot<mariogrip> Thanks guys! :D20:16
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Amazing Q&A. Very informative and entertaining20:21
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Thank you20:22
ubptgbot<Flohack> we are always at your disposal for Facts and Fun haha thx20:27
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> 😹😹😹20:30
ubptgbot<Zack> @Flohack, @Flohack thank you for the update guide for the baseband, your effort is much appreciated!20:41
ubptgbot<Flohack> No problem ! ;) thx20:41
ubptgbotThomas was added by: Thomas20:59
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Thomas !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.21:02
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ubptgbotularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信(13185950468): 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录,可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护,代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点投票服务】 提21:05
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信(13185950468): 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录,可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护,代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS21:06
ubptgbot<advocatux> done!21:10
ubptgbot<mateosalta> Anyone else in dialer have the dial pad tone settings nonfunctional21:36
ubptgbot<Cesar_Herrera> @Xray2000 I can't enter the software page of gmail.22:06
ubptgbot<Cesar_Herrera> * app22:07

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