 I've had a couple of people ask me (both IRL and in other TG groups) if there's a way to try Ubuntu Touch before installing it, like something they can put in VirtualBox. Is this a thing, does it need to be a thing, or does it need to not be a thing?
 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/this-week-in-mir-15th-june-2018/6558
 @amolith, It is not really a thing
[01:55] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> hi  - I'm trying to install touch on a nexus 5 using the Mac app.
[01:56] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> I've gotten to the "please reboot to bootloader" screen, which I've done but nothing is happening
[01:56] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> I tried selecting "start" but that didn't help either
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> I had to manually select the device too, but I think the app recognized that it was connected
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> ....not sure now though.
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> Is the device sensitive to the type of cable?
[02:06] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> changed cables twice...no difference
 @amolith, as discussed in multiple gseveral times in several groups - this could be solved by all of us doing @popescu_sorin style videos online so people can see all the parts without trying.  otherwise, let them install it and join the party to see it, I say. :)
 @wayneoutthere, I'm still trying to figure out `ffmpeg`` so I can encode the raw video file I have of UT so we can have some screen recordings for youtube
 @wayneoutthere, [Edit] I'm still trying to figure out `ffmpeg` so I can encode the raw video file I have of UT so we can have some screen recordings for youtube
 @wayneoutthere, Videos don't give a feeling. They're a good start, but don't really let you preview the experience. You can't use someone else's phone vicariously through them
 LSD - Audio ft. Sia, Diplo, Labrinth (HOPEX & Ugo Melone Remix) … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMkHRMUWWo
 @v1kky please keep off-topic chat to @ubports_ot
 @dohbee, At SELF, I ended up passing my phone around a group of almost 20 people lol
 @dohbee, this is true. best thing is loca community ... but until then, videos help
[04:28] <ubptgbot> <Buck Montana> quick clarifction - I've posted a couple of questions here, but got no response....am I posting in the wrong group?
 @Buck Montana, Installation questions best asked in https://t.me/WelcomePlus
[05:56] <ubptgbot> <Mase Samrat> Can i install ubuntu touch on samsung a9 pro?
 @K31j0, Hi Kejo, i'm just read the backlog, yes i have still my Sailfish OS device Jolla C here, so if i'm not mistake you have proting problems ?
 @K31j0, [Edit] Hi Kejo, i'm just read the backlog, yes i have still my Sailfish OS device Jolla C here, so if i'm not mistake you have porting problems ?
 @Mase Samrat, Here is the list of devices https://devices.ubports.com/#/
 @fourloop2002, Isn't that the super old homepage, that they won't put down for some reason?
 Try that one: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 Yes it was the old one. Just trying to keep history alive 😉
[08:07] <ubptgbot> Srinath Uthay was added by: Srinath Uthay
 @Buck Montana, Sounds like you didn't set the 'path' as in the manual 😃 Late reply was probably because people were asleep
 Argh I have nightmares with that old page, why is it still online? 😆
 @K31j0 it's in a very early stage but maybe you could be interested in this project https://t.me/UBports_pi
[09:39] <ubptgbot> yugalsaluja was added by: yugalsaluja
 @yugalsaluja, Hi Yugal, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 do you know if there is any way to sync contacts and massages between two ubuntu phones?  they have similar but a bit different .db.. is it right to use syncthing.. i don't want to use the cloud.. i would like to make it localy. thanks
 anybody noticed gosht lost calls or twisted info with the lost calls? … I noticed rightknow that i've got three lost calls in notification area. … looks like two of them were true and one is very strange: … The strange lost call sais in the notification area that were from one contact X. If i go to phone app it sais that is from cont
[11:49] <ubptgbot> act Y. … And if i push over the lost call from contact Y it appears that is a number from other country that i haven't stored.
 (Voice, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/3Z29LZ2H.oga
 Sorry. Please ignore
 Deleted, and this is not the first time you've posted something like that. Please be more careful in the future
 @j2g2rp I don't see anything weird on my missed calls list
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zxGD5PL5.webp
 @andreasimonetti, there isn't really a nice way to do this, no. you could copy the dbs from both phones to a PC, merge the dbs there, and then copy back to both phones, i suppose
 ok so is there a recomended program to merge so? thanks
 no, the data is stored in sqlite dbs
 messages would have to be merged manually using sqlite
 contacts could be done a little less manually with Evolution, but it's still going to be a pretty manual process, and likely you could end up breaking things
 ok i 'll give a try..thk again 👍
 Fwd from vanyasem: my rootfs is not based on ubuntu
 @Linuxman1, yes, he's trying to build an arch based version. which is likely going to be quite problematic in terms of making apps work, of course
 Sorry, my Telegram is missbehaving, I did not mean to forward it.
[14:18] <ubptgbot> <Mase Samrat> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/qUqELtjH.png I will install ubuntu touch on my phone but, why?
 Devices supported : https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 Also, we do not support MultiROM
 @andreasimonetti, I migrated these databases from MX4 to MP5 to ensure continuity when I upgraded devices. I don't maintain a constant sync as my MX4 is a rarely used Xenial tester device while the MP5 is a daily driver stable Vivid. I can't go into much detail now (I'm on a train to a relaxing weekend in London) but if
[14:25] <ubptgbot> you're still interested in a couple of days, I will attempt to remind myself and offer advice.
 @TartanSpartan, the question wasn't just how to copy from one device to another, but how to merge both dbs onto both devices, which is way more complicated
 I know, but if there's anything she might find helpful from my (more narrow) implementation, I'll be glad to assist.
 @TartanSpartan, she? they, buddy. they. :)
 ("Andrea" is a male name too, in Italian :)
 My bad, seemed like a safe call there.
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 @advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere ^^ spam removal please?
 Done :)
 thanks :)
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 sheesh
 how many of them are there?
 I'm deleting accounts but those bots... 😅
 yeah
 Fwd from Lawnchair: https://saveyourinternet.eu … VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US! … This could be an end to us if it doesn't get stopped!
 please don't spam the supergroup
 Removed. Not a good time to spam the SG, I'm on an anti-spammer frenzy 😂
 How many of you are getting the Librem 5 when it drops?
 @FreeRedBroccoli, I would love to buy it. But I won't as long as my FP2 works well.
 @jonny, What is that?
 There was some way to set the indicator clock and the lock screen clock to 24 hour time. I don't remember it now. Anyone else remember?
 @amolith, Could you set your location to Chile or Uruguay and get 24hr by default for your time zone?
 It's 24HR for me in BST.
 Same lol
 Have any Libertine-heads tried using valgrind or it's GUI frontend, alleyoop in the container? I'm wondering if confinement forbids this app which I want to use to debug code for memory allocation.
 @TartanSpartan, yes.. i am a man .. but don't worry, not offended.. my problem is how to merge two similar databases.. would be cool to have an automated app to do this .. but i understand sometimes the hard way is the best..
 Fair enough :)
 @FreeRedBroccoli, Fairphone
 Rotten luck today, I have to use the London Underground and then see family (as nice as that is) during the live show. Gonna try and follow it live as best I can, regardless.
 @Flohack thanks for the update and the all work that you make. If possible that telegram scope stop working? I have until yet 15.04 version in my bq 4.5.
 Can be, yes.
 Okey, is a minor bug for a big jump to 16.04. In this the scopes are out no?
 Well I am afraid the will remain in partly functional, partly dysfunctional state :)
 Is a collateral result. Don't worry. Thanks! 😉
 @jonny, I think there will be a way to run Android apps in the future.
 @TartanSpartan, well, you can't run it on anything outside the container really, from inside. i don't see why you couldn't run it inside the container on anything else inside the container
 Link for the Q&A?
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndQZz5FfKk
 Yeah wea re warming up already!
 Super excited!
 FKK? 😂
 lol
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: We are live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndQZz5FfKk
 @mariogrip, I haven't missed it! Yay!
 @Flohack Beautiful baby !!
 thx :)
 Congratulations!
[19:02] <ubptgbot> VijaykrishnaParvathaneni was added by: VijaykrishnaParvathaneni
 Congratulations @Flohack for @Flohack_v2.0 😁
 hehe
 @VijaykrishnaParvathaneni, Hi Vijaykrishna, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 Congratulations boss Flo!!!
 Unpredictiness. Love it 😊
 well, devel shouldn't break things either ;)
 hehe well should
 ideally development would be safe enough for it not to brake
 [Edit] ideally development would be safe enough for it not to break
 but that's not realistic
 we should have CI block images that are too large from getting pushed to the image server
 @dohbee, We did not even know all partition sizes from all devices until now ;)
 well, this is why the retail devices can't do flashing direct from android, for example
 @dohbee, I'll share screenshots later. Valgrind was just constantly saying "illegal operation" for all input.
 well gnome/debian are self-hosting too
 not using the gitlab hosted service
 We have an issue to setup a automated test with qemu and also I have a script ready to block when over the limit
 looking for people to help collect cache sizes https://papad.org/p/ubp-devices-cache-space
 @TartanSpartan, well that's probably the SIGILL in a library that's expected on armhf
 normally it gets trapped
 and GDPR compliance
 is something you don't want to deal with
 GitLab is only free to open source if you don't make any money
 @MichaelTunnell, for selfhosted yes, but for gitlab.com evey open source projects get gold for free
 @mariogrip, There is also a stipulation there about making money
 @MichaelTunnell, uh no?
 @dohbee, https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/#gitlab-com
 (Photo, 1134x284) https://irc.ubports.com/lT9wsl4N.png
 yeah i wasn't questioning you @mariogrip
 oh sorry :P
 there's no stipulation that you can't make any money whatsoever
 it doesn't matter what communication method is used, if there are a lot of people involved, there is going to be a lot of unread messages
 Guys can I enable developer mode from the ubuntu terminal on my PC?
 no, not really. you have to enable it on the phone
 https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/05/gitlab-ultimate-and-gold-free-for-education-and-open-source/ … "which does not seek to make profit from the resulting project software" … this stipulation needs to be clarified because do they require foundations or what. UBports makes enough in sponsorship that it might not be applicable i
[19:34] <ubptgbot> s all I'm saying.
 And if the button doesn't respond? 😅
 Can I enable it from shell on the device?
 @MichaelTunnell, Well ubports does not seek to make profit at all, we are non-profit so we can't
 telegram is a little more difficult to use than other methods in some cases. Like for example a discourse would be a good option for long term discussion. … mailing lists are torture
 @MichaelTunnell, a) this is only if you want ultimate or gold features. b) there are very few open source projects where this even makes sense as a claim.
 @dohbee, 😎👍
 logind is a separate issue from removing mir support from lightdm
 unity8 requires lightdm for the lock screen and unity8 greeter
 we need to move the uitk to be based on qqc2
 the sdk itself is another huge issue
 @dohbee, true, for the greeter we will have a problem
 but the greeter is no needed
 hehe. thanks. Answered!
 well greeter would be nice to keep to have a full mir+unity8 system
 @dohbee, not really, since mir does not have access to run, the mir support worked around by spawning a server in lightdm (to then use mir on mir)
 @dohbee, true, but there is ways around this. but not strictly needed for desktop tough. for phone its needed, but xenial wont get the new lightdm
 no, don't use debs.
 anyone can build their own purely deb system based on top of halium if that's what they want
 no need to provide support it directly in UT
 @Flohack Telegram is working on xenial for me
 after the latest update
 legacy arm apps can be run under libertine just fine if people want those
 we give you the sand, build your own wing of the castle
 I say that because someone is saying "Flo telegram is not working on xenial after the last update today" on YT chat
[20:08] <ubptgbot> NovichokUA was added by: NovichokUA
 @dohbee, yess
 just stop building apps on vivid
 disco time !!
 jan is causing someone to have a seizure
 😂
 Does somebody know how I can activate the developer mode, the button doesn't slide
 @Zack, Set a PIN code first
 @Flohack, Thank you, I will
 you have to have PIN/passphrase in use, yes
 it should tell you that though
 put a couple books under your laptop and pull the screen forward @mariogrip
 @NovichokUA, Hi Novichok, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started
 yeah, much better @mariogrip
 👍
 Great Q&A again, guys 👍
 thanks again!
 Thanks for the Q&A!!!
 youre welcome
 Thanks guys! :D
 Amazing Q&A. Very informative and entertaining
 Thank you
 we are always at your disposal for Facts and Fun haha thx
 😹😹😹
 @Flohack, @Flohack thank you for the update guide for the baseband, your effort is much appreciated!
 No problem ! ;) thx
[20:59] <ubptgbot> Thomas was added by: Thomas
 Welcome Thomas !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
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 done!
 Anyone else in dialer have the dial pad tone settings nonfunctional
 @Xray2000 I can't enter the software page of gmail.
 * app