[00:23] I've had a couple of people ask me (both IRL and in other TG groups) if there's a way to try Ubuntu Touch before installing it, like something they can put in VirtualBox. Is this a thing, does it need to be a thing, or does it need to not be a thing? [00:24] https://community.ubuntu.com/t/this-week-in-mir-15th-june-2018/6558 [00:58] @amolith, It is not really a thing [01:55] hi - I'm trying to install touch on a nexus 5 using the Mac app. [01:56] I've gotten to the "please reboot to bootloader" screen, which I've done but nothing is happening [01:56] I tried selecting "start" but that didn't help either [01:57] I had to manually select the device too, but I think the app recognized that it was connected [01:57] ....not sure now though. [01:57] Is the device sensitive to the type of cable? [02:06] changed cables twice...no difference [03:10] @amolith, as discussed in multiple gseveral times in several groups - this could be solved by all of us doing @popescu_sorin style videos online so people can see all the parts without trying. otherwise, let them install it and join the party to see it, I say. :) [03:12] @wayneoutthere, I'm still trying to figure out `ffmpeg`` so I can encode the raw video file I have of UT so we can have some screen recordings for youtube [03:12] @wayneoutthere, [Edit] I'm still trying to figure out `ffmpeg` so I can encode the raw video file I have of UT so we can have some screen recordings for youtube [03:18] @wayneoutthere, Videos don't give a feeling. They're a good start, but don't really let you preview the experience. You can't use someone else's phone vicariously through them [03:21] LSD - Audio ft. Sia, Diplo, Labrinth (HOPEX & Ugo Melone Remix) … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbMkHRMUWWo [03:22] @v1kky please keep off-topic chat to @ubports_ot [03:24] @dohbee, At SELF, I ended up passing my phone around a group of almost 20 people lol [04:07] @dohbee, this is true. best thing is loca community ... but until then, videos help [04:28] quick clarifction - I've posted a couple of questions here, but got no response....am I posting in the wrong group? [04:51] @Buck Montana, Installation questions best asked in https://t.me/WelcomePlus [05:56] Can i install ubuntu touch on samsung a9 pro? [06:08] @K31j0, Hi Kejo, i'm just read the backlog, yes i have still my Sailfish OS device Jolla C here, so if i'm not mistake you have proting problems ? [06:09] @K31j0, [Edit] Hi Kejo, i'm just read the backlog, yes i have still my Sailfish OS device Jolla C here, so if i'm not mistake you have porting problems ? [06:54] @Mase Samrat, Here is the list of devices https://devices.ubports.com/#/ [07:00] @fourloop2002, Isn't that the super old homepage, that they won't put down for some reason? [07:01] Try that one: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [08:04] Yes it was the old one. Just trying to keep history alive 😉 [08:07] Srinath Uthay was added by: Srinath Uthay [08:11] @Buck Montana, Sounds like you didn't set the 'path' as in the manual 😃 Late reply was probably because people were asleep [08:57] Argh I have nightmares with that old page, why is it still online? 😆 [08:59] @K31j0 it's in a very early stage but maybe you could be interested in this project https://t.me/UBports_pi === grumblr is now known as grumble [09:39] yugalsaluja was added by: yugalsaluja [09:43] @yugalsaluja, Hi Yugal, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started [11:03] do you know if there is any way to sync contacts and massages between two ubuntu phones? they have similar but a bit different .db.. is it right to use syncthing.. i don't want to use the cloud.. i would like to make it localy. thanks [11:49] anybody noticed gosht lost calls or twisted info with the lost calls? … I noticed rightknow that i've got three lost calls in notification area. … looks like two of them were true and one is very strange: … The strange lost call sais in the notification area that were from one contact X. If i go to phone app it sais that is from cont [11:49] act Y. … And if i push over the lost call from contact Y it appears that is a number from other country that i haven't stored. [11:51] (Voice, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/3Z29LZ2H.oga [11:51] Sorry. Please ignore [11:52] Deleted, and this is not the first time you've posted something like that. Please be more careful in the future [11:55] @j2g2rp I don't see anything weird on my missed calls list [11:57] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/zxGD5PL5.webp [12:30] @andreasimonetti, there isn't really a nice way to do this, no. you could copy the dbs from both phones to a PC, merge the dbs there, and then copy back to both phones, i suppose [12:32] ok so is there a recomended program to merge so? thanks [12:32] no, the data is stored in sqlite dbs [12:33] messages would have to be merged manually using sqlite [12:34] contacts could be done a little less manually with Evolution, but it's still going to be a pretty manual process, and likely you could end up breaking things [12:35] ok i 'll give a try..thk again 👍 [12:37] Fwd from vanyasem: my rootfs is not based on ubuntu [12:41] @Linuxman1, yes, he's trying to build an arch based version. which is likely going to be quite problematic in terms of making apps work, of course [12:54] Sorry, my Telegram is missbehaving, I did not mean to forward it. [14:18] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/qUqELtjH.png I will install ubuntu touch on my phone but, why? [14:19] Devices supported : https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [14:20] Also, we do not support MultiROM [14:25] @andreasimonetti, I migrated these databases from MX4 to MP5 to ensure continuity when I upgraded devices. I don't maintain a constant sync as my MX4 is a rarely used Xenial tester device while the MP5 is a daily driver stable Vivid. I can't go into much detail now (I'm on a train to a relaxing weekend in London) but if [14:25] you're still interested in a couple of days, I will attempt to remind myself and offer advice. [14:26] @TartanSpartan, the question wasn't just how to copy from one device to another, but how to merge both dbs onto both devices, which is way more complicated [14:41] I know, but if there's anything she might find helpful from my (more narrow) implementation, I'll be glad to assist. [14:42] @TartanSpartan, she? they, buddy. they. :) [14:44] ("Andrea" is a male name too, in Italian :) [14:56] My bad, seemed like a safe call there. [15:02] Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点 [15:02] ularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点投票服务】提 [15:07] Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点 [15:07] ularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点投票服务】提 [15:10] @advocatux @UniversalSuperBox @wayneoutthere ^^ spam removal please? [15:11] Done :) [15:11] thanks :) [15:11] Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点 [15:11] ularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点投票服务】提 [15:12] sheesh [15:12] how many of them are there? [15:12] I'm deleting accounts but those bots... 😅 [15:16] yeah [15:16] Fwd from Lawnchair: https://saveyourinternet.eu … VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US! … This could be an end to us if it doesn't get stopped! [15:17] please don't spam the supergroup [15:26] Removed. Not a good time to spam the SG, I'm on an anti-spammer frenzy 😂 [15:50] How many of you are getting the Librem 5 when it drops? [16:00] @FreeRedBroccoli, I would love to buy it. But I won't as long as my FP2 works well. [16:05] @jonny, What is that? [16:10] There was some way to set the indicator clock and the lock screen clock to 24 hour time. I don't remember it now. Anyone else remember? [16:28] @amolith, Could you set your location to Chile or Uruguay and get 24hr by default for your time zone? [16:31] It's 24HR for me in BST. [16:32] Same lol [16:53] Have any Libertine-heads tried using valgrind or it's GUI frontend, alleyoop in the container? I'm wondering if confinement forbids this app which I want to use to debug code for memory allocation. [16:59] @TartanSpartan, yes.. i am a man .. but don't worry, not offended.. my problem is how to merge two similar databases.. would be cool to have an automated app to do this .. but i understand sometimes the hard way is the best.. [17:06] Fair enough :) [17:13] @FreeRedBroccoli, Fairphone [17:47] Rotten luck today, I have to use the London Underground and then see family (as nice as that is) during the live show. Gonna try and follow it live as best I can, regardless. [17:49] @Flohack thanks for the update and the all work that you make. If possible that telegram scope stop working? I have until yet 15.04 version in my bq 4.5. [17:49] Can be, yes. [17:50] Okey, is a minor bug for a big jump to 16.04. In this the scopes are out no? [17:51] Well I am afraid the will remain in partly functional, partly dysfunctional state :) [17:56] Is a collateral result. Don't worry. Thanks! 😉 [18:06] @jonny, I think there will be a way to run Android apps in the future. [18:27] @TartanSpartan, well, you can't run it on anything outside the container really, from inside. i don't see why you couldn't run it inside the container on anything else inside the container [18:57] Link for the Q&A? [18:57] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndQZz5FfKk [18:59] Yeah wea re warming up already! [18:59] Super excited! [18:59] FKK? 😂 [18:59] lol [18:59] Fwd from UBports News Channel: We are live! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndQZz5FfKk [19:00] @mariogrip, I haven't missed it! Yay! [19:01] @Flohack Beautiful baby !! [19:01] thx :) [19:01] Congratulations! [19:02] VijaykrishnaParvathaneni was added by: VijaykrishnaParvathaneni [19:04] Congratulations @Flohack for @Flohack_v2.0 😁 [19:04] hehe [19:04] @VijaykrishnaParvathaneni, Hi Vijaykrishna, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started [19:05] Congratulations boss Flo!!! [19:10] Unpredictiness. Love it 😊 [19:12] well, devel shouldn't break things either ;) [19:13] hehe well should [19:13] ideally development would be safe enough for it not to brake [19:13] [Edit] ideally development would be safe enough for it not to break [19:14] but that's not realistic [19:14] we should have CI block images that are too large from getting pushed to the image server [19:14] @dohbee, We did not even know all partition sizes from all devices until now ;) [19:16] well, this is why the retail devices can't do flashing direct from android, for example [19:18] @dohbee, I'll share screenshots later. Valgrind was just constantly saying "illegal operation" for all input. [19:19] well gnome/debian are self-hosting too [19:19] not using the gitlab hosted service [19:19] We have an issue to setup a automated test with qemu and also I have a script ready to block when over the limit [19:19] looking for people to help collect cache sizes https://papad.org/p/ubp-devices-cache-space [19:20] @TartanSpartan, well that's probably the SIGILL in a library that's expected on armhf [19:20] normally it gets trapped [19:22] and GDPR compliance [19:22] is something you don't want to deal with [19:24] GitLab is only free to open source if you don't make any money [19:26] @MichaelTunnell, for selfhosted yes, but for gitlab.com evey open source projects get gold for free [19:27] @mariogrip, There is also a stipulation there about making money [19:27] @MichaelTunnell, uh no? [19:27] @dohbee, https://about.gitlab.com/pricing/#gitlab-com [19:28] (Photo, 1134x284) https://irc.ubports.com/lT9wsl4N.png [19:28] yeah i wasn't questioning you @mariogrip [19:28] oh sorry :P [19:28] there's no stipulation that you can't make any money whatsoever [19:32] it doesn't matter what communication method is used, if there are a lot of people involved, there is going to be a lot of unread messages [19:33] Guys can I enable developer mode from the ubuntu terminal on my PC? [19:33] no, not really. you have to enable it on the phone [19:34] https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/05/gitlab-ultimate-and-gold-free-for-education-and-open-source/ … "which does not seek to make profit from the resulting project software" … this stipulation needs to be clarified because do they require foundations or what. UBports makes enough in sponsorship that it might not be applicable i [19:34] s all I'm saying. [19:34] And if the button doesn't respond? 😅 [19:34] Can I enable it from shell on the device? [19:35] @MichaelTunnell, Well ubports does not seek to make profit at all, we are non-profit so we can't [19:35] telegram is a little more difficult to use than other methods in some cases. Like for example a discourse would be a good option for long term discussion. … mailing lists are torture [19:38] @MichaelTunnell, a) this is only if you want ultimate or gold features. b) there are very few open source projects where this even makes sense as a claim. [19:38] @dohbee, 😎👍 [19:41] logind is a separate issue from removing mir support from lightdm [19:42] unity8 requires lightdm for the lock screen and unity8 greeter [19:44] we need to move the uitk to be based on qqc2 [19:44] the sdk itself is another huge issue [19:47] @dohbee, true, for the greeter we will have a problem [19:48] but the greeter is no needed [19:48] hehe. thanks. Answered! [19:48] well greeter would be nice to keep to have a full mir+unity8 system [19:49] @dohbee, not really, since mir does not have access to run, the mir support worked around by spawning a server in lightdm (to then use mir on mir) [19:51] @dohbee, true, but there is ways around this. but not strictly needed for desktop tough. for phone its needed, but xenial wont get the new lightdm [19:59] no, don't use debs. [20:03] anyone can build their own purely deb system based on top of halium if that's what they want [20:03] no need to provide support it directly in UT [20:04] @Flohack Telegram is working on xenial for me [20:04] after the latest update [20:05] legacy arm apps can be run under libertine just fine if people want those [20:06] we give you the sand, build your own wing of the castle [20:06] I say that because someone is saying "Flo telegram is not working on xenial after the last update today" on YT chat [20:08] NovichokUA was added by: NovichokUA [20:08] @dohbee, yess [20:09] just stop building apps on vivid [20:10] disco time !! [20:10] jan is causing someone to have a seizure [20:10] 😂 [20:11] Does somebody know how I can activate the developer mode, the button doesn't slide [20:11] @Zack, Set a PIN code first [20:11] @Flohack, Thank you, I will [20:11] you have to have PIN/passphrase in use, yes [20:11] it should tell you that though [20:12] put a couple books under your laptop and pull the screen forward @mariogrip [20:12] @NovichokUA, Hi Novichok, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started [20:13] yeah, much better @mariogrip [20:14] 👍 [20:14] Great Q&A again, guys 👍 [20:15] thanks again! [20:15] Thanks for the Q&A!!! [20:15] youre welcome [20:16] Thanks guys! :D [20:21] Amazing Q&A. Very informative and entertaining [20:22] Thank you [20:27] we are always at your disposal for Facts and Fun haha thx [20:30] 😹😹😹 [20:41] @Flohack, @Flohack thank you for the update guide for the baseband, your effort is much appreciated! [20:41] No problem ! ;) thx [20:59] Thomas was added by: Thomas [21:02] Welcome Thomas !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available. [21:05] Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点 [21:05] ularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点投票服务】提 [21:06] @Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS [21:10] done! [21:36] Anyone else in dialer have the dial pad tone settings nonfunctional [22:06] @Xray2000 I can't enter the software page of gmail. [22:07] * app