[04:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:07] <Bashing-om> WB lotuspsychje = bout the same as you left it :)
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> not good for your timezones so it seems Bashing-om
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: can you reverse your life, sleep when i sleep?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> your wife will understand right? lol
[04:11] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Well, I did that night thing for several years .. I prefer sleeping when it is dark out :P
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[04:13] <Bashing-om> Not that I do not think that you are good company - just so set in my old ways :P
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: you got a launchpad account right?
[04:14] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: yes I do have an account .
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> can you do me a favor? add yourself affected to a wishlist bug?
[04:15] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: sure, I can at least see if I am also affected ,
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: its a wish, not really a bug
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: so its fine to add affected https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1776742
[04:17] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I might like the wish also .. what is the thing ?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> the more affect, the more interest it may have
[04:19] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: I can at least look at the wish and make my judgement call :P
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> sure thing mate
[04:27] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: So, what is the wish ?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: right now the user can only enable/disable systemd services manually from terminal
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: adding a GUI manager could enable/disable a whole list, make it easy for the user, have a faster systemd experience
[04:30] <Bashing-om> I am all for making it easier .
[04:40] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: How then do I add myself to that wish list ?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: just add yourself affected to the bug
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> as its not really a bug, they will understand
[04:40] <Bashing-om> what bug ?
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> bug 1776742
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> just add: yes im affected
[04:49] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: done :)
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> tnx Bashing-om
[04:54] <Bashing-om> Done for this session .. g nite \o
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> nite Bashing-om
[06:08] <ducasse> good morning
[07:27] <EriC^^> morning all
[10:25] <guiverc> sorry qwebirc20807 i hoped you'd be able to be in both... this isn't really support which is why i asked .. thanks!
[10:25] <guiverc> I'd hope WEB IRC (as you suggested) followed by link would make what it does self-explanatory - you don't agree?
[10:26] <qwebirc20807> Yes I don't. Many people don't even know what IRC is
[10:26] <guiverc> good point... afraid I'd have to agree; but those that don't aren't likely to use it (do you agree?)
[10:26] <qwebirc20807> if named Quick access then they know that pressing that link would take in the channel
[10:27] <guiverc> Web IRC (Quick Access) ??
[10:28] <qwebirc20807> ok fine
[10:29] <guiverc> should the full url be hidden (part of me thinks NO!), but I think it would be neater if it was... thoughts?
[10:29] <guiverc> hidden & I'm worried people will think we're trying to hide where it goes (again the Web IRC (Quick Access) would need explanation!!!) ...
[10:31] <qwebirc20807> I cannot come up anything currently. This is hard to think
[10:31] <qwebirc20807> You should find others to discuss with :)
[10:34] <guiverc> I won't go beyond Support tonight (today) - leave it a few days & see if there is push-back from others...  heading changed...
[10:38] <guiverc> anyway thanks for suggestion qwebirc20807 :)   (any dislike of change I'll possibly hear about in a couple of days, but I'll likely hear nothing - meaning okay...)
[11:24] <eyeoh> https://github.com/cb22/macbook12-spi-driver/pull/66#issuecomment-397805256 future is in sight
[11:52] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[13:45] <sonicwind> hey lotus... happy Saturday
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> hey sonicwind all good on your side?
[13:46] <sonicwind> everything except the weather today... way too hot for me
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> how hot is hot?
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> we have 23c today
[13:47] <sonicwind> 95 F today I think with Chicago humidity
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> wow
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> dry heat is bareable
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> but humid and sticky heat not
[13:48] <sonicwind> agreed
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> guys feel free to add yourself affected to my new bug wish: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1776742
[14:01] <sonicwind> so that would be a GUI to help manage systemd services?
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> sonicwind: like startup items in xenial ( the whole list: enable/disable )
[14:02] <sonicwind> oh ok
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> now you have to manually fiddle with systemctl..
[14:03] <sonicwind> I thought there were bootup managers for startup items
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> well startup items is not really the same as systemd services
[14:03] <sonicwind> right
[14:03] <sonicwind> gotcha
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> like on my netbook, i dont need cups by default
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> dont have a printer connected
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> so why have cups loaded by default== the users choice
[14:04] <sonicwind> right
[14:04] <sonicwind> so why should you have to disable it with systemctl and put that in cron or something
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> thats double the time loading then? system boots cups, then cron disables?
[14:05] <sonicwind> yep
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> i would rather want a clean systemd manager, so the user can GUI tick on/off
[14:06] <sonicwind> I agree... I like it
[14:06] <sonicwind> I'm not signed up on launchpad though
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> sonicwind: oh ok no sweat
[15:14] <sonicwind> lotuspsychje, I just realized I am on Launchpad. I didn't know it was part of UbuntuOne. I just added myself as affected to your bug wish.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> tnx alot mate
[17:18] <EriC^^> evening all
[17:19] <oerheks> it is saturday, worst day for support with all these trolls
[17:19] <oerheks> hi EriC^^
[17:19] <EriC^^> hi oerheks
[17:19] <oerheks> curlyears is all yours \0/
[17:19] <EriC^^> no thanks :P
[17:53] <oerheks> leftyfb, no, he is drunk/drugs/dead .. but he keeps the channel alive
[17:54] <leftyfb> I know
[17:54] <leftyfb> rebuilding a Unifi controller, I got some cycles :)
[17:54] <oerheks> if his recent hardware issues are still valid, with a bad sector on the mbr ...
[17:55] <oerheks> well, we see
[21:01] <oerheks> grinn, ubuntu support brings all sorts of ..
 leftyfb, should I get another child?
[21:01] <hggdh> leftyfb: small typos are not an issue
[21:01] <leftyfb> hggdh: correct
[21:01] <hggdh> it is the pseudo English that is bad, like using u for you, etc
[21:02] <leftyfb> what curly does is not "small typos"
[21:02] <oerheks> typos in the command one used, is annoying
[21:02] <hggdh> leftyfb: yeah, I read the backlog. This -- I *think* -- as him trying to force. Not a good idea
[21:02] <leftyfb> I can almost guarantee most of this persons problems is their issue with the keyboard
[21:03] <hggdh> don't doubt. Have had my own issues with the keyboard not following my thought