[00:04] <donofrio> Got a workaround I had to install inxi before I did the first apt-get dist upgrade - https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2615#issuecomment-397737124 for anyone that is wsl and ubuntu 18.04 I'm lurking as always....
[00:05] <klemax> after suspending, when the laptop comes back, there is a white error screen.
[00:05] <klemax> i checked the kern log, and saw ati driver errors.
[00:05] <klemax> where should i report it to?
[00:18] <artu1> hi
[00:19] <artu1> kwest
[00:23] <donofrio> artu1, ask your question
[00:26] <Euph0ria> Hi all.  I have a process somewhere that is maxing out my network upload all the time.  How can I find which process is maxing out my upload?
[00:31] <artu1> is enybody who is kwowing why from u8 platform wont throw google show pictures and leters
[00:42] <Goop> Can running a command using screen make an application slower?
[00:43] <bazhang> what command did you have in mind Goop
[00:44] <Goop> I wanted to run a Minecraft modded server (FTB comes with a bash script that runs a Java command)
[00:45] <bazhang> dont see why it would, why not run a test
[00:46] <bazhang> that's also heavily dependent on the script and whatever hw you have, I would imagine
[00:46] <Goop> I have, but using it is so confusing. My goal is to be able to SSH into a Debian server, run the server command and be able to get out of the Minecraft server console and disconnect SSH without interrupting the server.
[00:47] <bazhang> so more of a general linux type question, not solely ubuntu
[00:48] <Goop> Yeah.
[00:48] <bazhang> perhaps try in ##linux Goop
[00:54] <WoC> Goop, use screen
[00:55] <compdoc> thats what he was asking about
[00:55] <WoC> oh
[00:55] <WoC> oops [;
[00:55] <Euph0ria> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M CPU @ 2.50GHz (805MHz) • Memory: Physical: 15.2 GiB Total (14.4 GiB Free) Swap: 7.8 GiB Total (7.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 41.8 GB / 2.2 TB (2.2 TB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Contr
[00:55] <Euph0ria> oller • Uptime: 2h 33m 46s
[00:55] <Euph0ria> Sorry.
[00:56] <WoC> dang, i got the same crappy gfx :P
[00:57] <Goop> Also, do I need to do anything with background/disown, so I can disconnect SSH and still keep the screen going?
[00:57] <WoC> just ^a d
[00:57] <compdoc> When I need a command to run in terminal so that i can disconnect and get back to it later, I install a desktop that I can easily remote into. open a term window, leave it running and disconnect. I like Mate, but theres many others
[00:58] <WoC> and screen -r to re-attach
[00:58] <sakhd> Sound in browser doesn't start playing instantly, only after approximately second. Once upon a time, I have found the solution for this problem. It's time to find it again :)
[00:59] <sakhd> ubuntu 18.04 (previous too)
[01:00] <BillGHero> I have a problem where x cannot access /dev/dri/card0 during boot
[01:00] <sakhd> It is somehow related to sound card energy saving. Is it possible to disable it through ubuntu settings?
[01:01] <compdoc> sakhd, do you allow the system to sleep?
[01:07] <Goop> compdoc, that is a horrible idea. A WASTE of system resources.
[01:10] <compdoc> Goop, gosh no. been doing it in poduction servers for years. takes up a few megs of disk space, and after you disconnect the only real cpu time is that of your process. even when youre connected there is very little impact
[01:11] <compdoc> modern computers and a well done desktop gui are not quite you you imagine
[01:16] <compdoc> I do a minimal install. no need for bluetooth services, etc
[01:40] <Guest92474> Hello?
[01:41] <bazhang> ubuntu support issue Guest92474 ?
[01:41] <Guest92474> is this for tech support ?
[01:41] <guiverc> if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please just ask it (ideally in a single line, and a ~unique nickname would help) & please be patient waiting for a reply
[01:42] <bazhang> for ubuntu OS yes guest9
[01:42] <bazhang> oh left
[01:42] <guiverc> i scared off another :(  [or should that be :) ]
[01:51] <swift110> hey bazhang how are you man?
[01:53] <ANAND> tomreyn: Found a driver for my adapter - https://static.tp-link.com/2018/201805/20180514/TP-Link_Driver_Linux_series8_beta.zip
[01:53] <ANAND> Looks like it was uploaded very recently too
[01:56] <atareis> hey
[01:56] <atareis> anyone here ?
[01:57] <blkadder> No.
[01:57] <atareis> :)
[01:57] <cxc99> is there a way to disable network checking and only install from the iso for ubuntu?
[01:57] <compdoc> only blkadder is here. and cxc99
[01:57] <compdoc> , sure
[01:57] <compdoc> cxc99
[01:58] <cxc99> i uncheck the checkbox during install, and i still see it "downloading" stuff
[02:00] <atareis> what is the best linux os ?
[02:00] <cxc99> the one that you like :)
[02:00] <atareis> im using mint and im very love it
[02:02] <ANAND> tomreyn: Looks like the driver's made for 4.13.. kernel (16.04)
[02:02] <ANAND> Is there a way to make it work with kernel version 4.15?
[02:02] <swift110> sup atareis I am using Mint right now
[02:03] <lbdesign> I'm impressed with ubuntu LTS. But I need the cpufreq extension to tame ht egnome-shell beast eating all my cpu and making my laptop too hot.
[02:03] <atareis> swift110 congratulations
[02:11] <tomreyn> ANAND: you already have a driver, which is loaded, and works, just you said the performance wasn't good enough, yet. the driver you are currently using is probably rtl8xxxu ("lsmod | grep rtl" would tell)
[02:12] <tomreyn> if that's the one you have now then look into "modinfo rtl8xxxu | grep ^parm" to see any available configuration parameters which you can experiment with.
[02:14] <tomreyn> this said, you can also try the driver you found now. which they apparently tested on ubuntu 16.04, and linux miint 18, and kali - weird choices.
[02:14] <tomreyn> you'll need to build it yourself, following the instructions included with it.
[02:14]  * tomreyn afk
[02:18] <Guest5210> Hello guys! Anyone cares to share some info regarding  the Ubuntu World
[02:20] <guiverc> Guest5210, this is a support room, your question to me is better suited to #ubuntu-discuss
[02:21] <Guest5210> Great! I am interested... What do you guys usually support?
[02:24] <strive> Guest5210: Do you have an issue?
[02:24] <strive> If so, just ask away :)
[02:25] <Guest5210> Well, I think that I am mainly having a few with the package manager displaying every now and then a few errors when attempting to install some packages
[02:28] <guiverc> Guest5210, for us to help it'd help if you were specific, ie. exact error message ... if you have multi-line pastes etc, we can tell you how to use ubuntu.pastebin (or use whatever you know)
[02:30] <Guest5210> I see but I dont think that I need to specifiy anything as I already mentioned to you the the issue is with the package manager and installation
[02:32] <guiverc> i don't know what installation you're running (ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu..) let alone your version (14.04, 16.04...) nor what package manager you're using (they vary by flavor) - but the error messages are specific & elude to clue (eg. unsupported release so pointing in wrong place etc..)
[02:42] <Guest5210> Anyone experiencing issues with the package manager displaying errors with packages installation
[02:43] <Guest5210> specifically on ubuntu 14.04
[02:44] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Hi can anyone explain Ubuntu?
[02:44] <JoeyTheHakeroo> why does it not provide easy access?
[02:45] <bazhang> JoeyTheHakeroo, easy for the disabled?
[02:45] <JoeyTheHakeroo> How do you install the thing? Is it really made by Africans?
[02:45] <bazhang> no it's not
[02:46] <bazhang> !manual | JoeyTheHakeroo
[02:46] <bazhang> have a read of that JoeyTheHakeroo
[02:47] <zachary> hello
[02:47] <JoeyTheHakeroo> But why is it called Ubuntu?  Is this thing from Africa?
[02:47] <tittimc> yeah sure
[02:47] <guiverc> Guest5210, i just booted my 14.04 desktop; it's updating now (okay on my used mirror anyway) - do you download from main site?, country mirror? or isp mirror?  what package?  (ie. is it from a repo you don't have enabled? i can check if I know what package..)
[02:47] <tittimc> right guys
[02:48] <JoeyTheHakeroo> I dont really understand the manual. Nor the installation practices. I am trying to escape Windows but Linux platforms are insane.
[02:48] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Is this really made by some African peoples?
[02:48] <bazhang> JoeyTheHakeroo, that's more of an offtopic dis cussion
[02:48] <tittimc> wtf
[02:49] <bazhang> JoeyTheHakeroo, no it's not , please stop asking that
[02:49] <JoeyTheHakeroo> what is offtopic? I came here bc I was told I can get help about get started on Ubuntu
[02:49] <bazhang> JoeyTheHakeroo, we gave you a link to read
[02:49] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Who makes this stuff? Why did they called it Ubuntu.
[02:49] <Guest5210> Lol, why do you need to know if ubuntu is made by Africans, do you have a problem with that?
[02:49] <tittimc> i think he is racist lolol
[02:50] <bazhang> JoeyTheHakeroo, a free downloadalbe manual to introduce you
[02:50] <JoeyTheHakeroo> BC I don't understand any of it and it is weird
[02:50] <guiverc> JoeyTheHakeroo, fyi: the main guy who is behind Ubuntu is from South Africa
[02:50] <tittimc> they have computers there JoeyTheHakeroo
[02:50] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Not sure if it was like that project some indians did for my company and the thing was impossible to comprehend.
[02:50] <JoeyTheHakeroo> We never again hired Indians to do the work
[02:50] <tittimc> omg
[02:51] <BLZbubba> hello, what is the best way to get optimus working on 18.04?
[02:51] <bazhang> JoeyTheHakeroo, please take this to an offtopic chat channel
[02:51] <JoeyTheHakeroo> South Africa? So it is made in Africa?
[02:51] <tittimc> guys
[02:51] <tittimc> wtf
[02:51] <Flannel> JoeyTheHakeroo: Again, this is a place for technical questions.  Any question of a non-technical nature should be taken elsewhere, thanks.
[02:51] <JoeyTheHakeroo> ok
[02:51] <tittimc> is this guy serious
[02:51] <JoeyTheHakeroo> How can i physically have ubuntu installed on 34 computers and have it run properly?
[02:51] <guiverc> JoeyTheHakeroo, coders are world-wide.. and this is off-topic on this channel (it's for Ubuntu support only)
[02:51] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Have an office and we are done with W10
[02:52] <JoeyTheHakeroo> But I don't want African Software or Indian stuff that collapse in weeks or so. We cannot afford that.
[02:52] <tittimc> yo JoeyTheHakeroo take ur hatespeech out of this chat
[02:52] <tittimc> not cool bro
[02:52] <Flannel> !automate | JoeyTheHakeroo
[02:52] <Guest5210> Joey, what is up with your spirit tonight? You sound a bit too harsh
[02:53] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Hate? Not really we had so many issues with the Indian programmers it was hell.
[02:53] <Flannel> JoeyTheHakeroo: And again, keep the non-technical questions and statements out of this channel.
[02:53] <JoeyTheHakeroo> ubottu we are trying to install (proper) 34 pc's with Ubuntu. But it ihas been hell. So we are now looking at why we can't do it.
[02:54] <Flannel> JoeyTheHakeroo: Read that link, it'll show you how.
[02:54] <JoeyTheHakeroo> The OS loads then it fails to go on. Like none of the changes are made. We cannot retrieve data and we loose all of it over and over.
[02:54] <Flannel> JoeyTheHakeroo: Read that link, it'll show you how.
[02:55] <Guest5210> I see.. well I dont think you will have one with me... I am simply trying to get some help from you in regards to my ubuntu laptop issues with package manager  displaying errors with installation
[02:55] <JoeyTheHakeroo> Guest5210 your Ubuntu failing you as well.
[02:56] <tittimc> JoeyTheHakeroo : so why u hate indians and africans so much bro.
[02:56] <Flannel> tittimc: just drop it.
[02:56] <tittimc> yeah. but cmon bro. that hatespeech was not called for man.
[02:56] <tittimc> sorry
[02:56] <tittimc> i get sensitive about this stuff
[02:56] <tittimc> anyway
[02:57] <tittimc> brb guys
[02:57] <JoeyTheHakeroo> I don't hate INDIANS sir we just need MADE IN USA stuff that works. I am 56 years old and the wizzkids have not yet figure out how to make things simple and concised.
[02:57] <Tin__man> don't hurry on our account
[02:57] <Flannel> tittimc: He's just a troll. It happens. Now he's not here.
[02:58] <hggdh> Jonta: enough. Please stop. Go to another chat channel
[02:58] <Flannel> hggdh: wrong person
[02:58] <tittimc> Flannel: hey thanks
[02:59] <hggdh> Jonta: sorry, wrong nick
[03:02] <Guest18245> Hey guys! I know that is off topic but has any of you ever taken a trip to the carribean?
[03:03] <tittimc> nah too many blacks, according to JoeyTheHackeroo
[03:03] <tittimc> u missed out on a real racist Guest18245
[03:04]  * el facepalms
[03:04] <el> we'd rather the conversation not be relived thanks
[03:04] <tittimc> el: thats cuz ur a faggit
[03:05] <tittimc> wutwutwut
[03:05] <tittimc> u defend nazis now
[03:05] <tittimc> im out fags my tendies r cold peace
[03:06] <Guest18245> How am I missing out? I was not making a statement about race , I simply asked if some of you have visited the Carribean? Good food, nice people, beautiful beaches, real exposure to nature
[03:06] <el> kick tittimc not appropriate behaviour
[03:06] <guiverc> try & stay on topic please folks..
[03:16] <lbdesign> irc never changes.
[03:34] <swift110> wow
[05:14] <ANAND> Hello again, I'd like to know if it's possible to modify the code of a kernel module (Wifi driver) for 4.13 to work in 4.15.
[05:15] <ANAND> I get a couple of errors which are most probably due to the fact that this driver was not made for my current version
[05:18] <guiverc> ANAND, possible yes. doable if you're very high skilled. I'd not want to try; you'd have find the bit in the 4.13 that works for you, work out why it was removed or isn't there in 4.15 & try to make it do what you want (& test to ensure you've not inserted new issues fixed by what you removed...)
[05:32] <varshitbhat> Hey,I have installed Ubuntu 18.4 in offline pc.i cannot get internet connection.but I've to install gnome-tweak-tool ,vlc media player,and dosbox emulator all offline.please help
[05:32] <varshitbhat> Please
[05:34] <niko1990> Hello
[05:35] <osp2> varshitbhat, you can put the apps on the offline box from a separate usb or something maybe?
[05:35] <varshitbhat> Please explain
[05:36] <varshitbhat> I downloaded packages from pkgs.org
[05:36] <varshitbhat> And how to install
[05:37] <osp2> not sure myself to be honest
[05:37] <varshitbhat> Vlc media player is only 500kb
[05:37] <varshitbhat> osp2: oh sorry
[05:37] <varshitbhat> Others, please help me
[05:38] <osp2> varshitbhat, this might help:
[05:38] <osp2> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/159094/how-to-install-a-deb-file-by-dpkg-i-or-by-apt
[05:40] <osp2> or even this
[05:40] <osp2> https://askubuntu.com/questions/40779/how-do-i-install-a-deb-file-via-the-command-line
[05:40] <osp2> I'm assuming you downloaded the .deb files from pkgs.org? varshitbhat
[05:40] <varshitbhat> Yes
[05:40] <osp2> yeah then you should just need to follow those instructions
[05:40] <varshitbhat> I also downloaded via Ubuntu packages
[05:40] <osp2> sudo dpkg -i DEB_PACKAGE
[05:41] <varshitbhat> Oh, thanks
[05:41] <osp2> np
[05:43] <guiverc> varshitbhat, where apt & apt-get will download dependencies (ie. needed to run), `dpkg -i` will error if they aren't already in your system, so include them in the same `dpkg -i` command, or install dep's first...
[05:50] <ANAND> guiverc: Here are the actual errors. They look trivial to me - only the names of the methods have probably changed
[05:50] <ANAND> https://gist.github.com/ClobberXD/e0cb3f510912c2e99116f5425a972be8
[05:52] <guiverc> ANAND, yes a few are -dev deps which should be easily fixed (without touching the source code)
[05:53] <ANAND> Ah, good to know :)
[05:53] <ANAND> Would you be able to help me resolve the issues? I'm not very familiar with the Linux kernel
[05:54] <ANAND> or any kernel for that matter :)
[05:54] <guiverc> ANAND, install them and you'll likely not need to patch anything.  Compiling a driver isn't at all what I was thinking (I assumed you were after something different)
[05:54] <ANAND> um.. install what, exactly?
[05:55] <guiverc> for the first I saw - https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libelf-dev shows its available for all supported Ubuntu's ... fix those (ie. apt install) and you'll likely nothing left (others will disappear))
[06:00] <ANAND> guiverc: So I'll have to install libelf-dev using apt and try compiling the driver again?
[06:02] <guiverc> ANAND, look at line 2 of what you posted for me - it provided a number of missing -dev libs; you need to install them all (then try recompiling/make..) - i only looked at first listed
[06:02] <ANAND> Oh ok
[06:04] <niko1990> I have a question: I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 and I have a network share that I connect to (fstab: cifs). Everything was working perfect till around a week ago - acceptable speeds. Since then I this speeds (140MB file) in TERMINAL: upload (to terminal) 30 MiB/s & download 90,8 MiB/s. But in NAUTILUS: Upload 4,1 MB/s & Download (most likely around 60 - 80 MB/s.) But it takes exactly 30 seconds where the download is stand
[06:04] <niko1990> e left: 600h. even with a small image file (63 kB) it takes again exactly 30 seconds standing still till it actually starts copying... Anyone an idea, or the same problems?
[06:16] <guiverc> ANAND, just a fyi: those -dev (development) packages are only needed to compile/make - they won't be needed to 'use/run' the result (when done)
[06:17] <pressure679> How do I use a bluetooth keyboard?
[06:19] <pressure679> It worked with Fedora, so I wonder why not with Ubuntu
[06:20] <pressure679> Well, it was a lossy connection with Ubuntu 16.04.
[06:20] <pressure679> Now it does not detect at all.
[06:20] <ANAND> guiverc: line 2 says to install either one of them
[06:20] <ANAND> I've installed libelf-dev
[06:20] <ANAND> But apt can't locate the other two
[06:24] <guiverc> ANAND, i misread (actually only read part of line.. my bad sorry!)  -dev is possibly called -devel in another non-debian distro...
[06:25] <Budgii> l0l
[06:25] <ANAND> Haha, no issues :)
[06:25] <guiverc> once you've installed what you can, you can re-try make
[06:26] <ANAND> I've installed libelf-dev, but I get the exact same error(s) when I retry make
[06:30] <Goop> I'm trying to connect a Remmina client (using VNC) to a tightvncserver. I can't seem to get the screen to resize when I increase the window width on remmina.
[06:30] <Goop> How do I get it to auto-resize?
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Goop: be carefull with vnc, alot of security risk using it..
[06:36] <guiverc> ANAND, can you provide the link where you grabbed the source - I think i'm missing something, hoping for clues... :)
[06:37] <guiverc> okay - what you said initially (https://github.com/evgeni/tp_smapi/issues/31)  init_timer() interface removed... my first answer makes sense now :(
[06:39] <sera_denoir> Was running 17.10.1 and used the upgrade script to move to 18.04, which upgraded php from 7.0/1 (can't remember now) to 7.2, which broke some of my php apps on my webserver.  Is there some way that I can use the CLI to force Apache's PHP configurating back to 'out of the box' without breaking the whole LAMP server?
[06:40] <guiverc> the patch is tiny; ~4 lines; I'd be tempted to just add to a file & try compiling... but I don't know enough to know consequences...  (http://users.sec.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/~jan/0001-Adapt-HDAPS-driver-to-use-the-new-timer_setup-interf.patch)
[06:45] <guiverc> ANAND, i'm not skilled enough to do anything but 'try-hack'; you need better skilled than me sorry
[06:48] <ANAND> ah that's sad... :/
[06:48] <ANAND> Thank you for all the help though, guiverc :)
[06:49] <guiverc> sorry I couldn't help more ANAND
[06:49] <Flannel> sera_denoir: you can, but it's probably easier (and you'll feel more comfortable doing it manually).  You can download the deb file here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libapache2-mod-php7.2  that's got the stock php7.2.conf file
[06:50] <Flannel> sera_denoir: You can open a deb file with an archive tool to open it like a tgz/zip/archive
[06:51] <sera_denoir> Flannel: so i'm looking for a change in the php7.2.conf file as opposed to the php.ini file?
[06:52] <Flannel> sera_denoir: php7.2.conf is apache's config file for php.  If you're thinking it's a php-wide thing, then that'd be in https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/php7.2-common
[06:52] <Flannel> sera_denoir: (you can see the files in each package by a link there, prior to downloading)
[06:54] <sera_denoir> Flannel: Thanks ... i'll try poking around a bit more.  I was focused on the ini files, but I did do a lot of changes in conf files for security, just it was back in december so i don't remember everything i did
[06:55] <Flannel> sera_denoir: Also, sometimes people have directives in your site that'll affet things.  So that's another place to look.  (apache/sites-available)
[06:58] <Flannel> sera_denoir: And, just in case you end up wanting to nuke everything, `apt-get install --reinstall [packages]` is how to put those files back.  But you still need to know which package had that file.  You can figure that out with `dpkg -S \path\to\arbitrary\file`
[07:00] <Goop> How would I go about rebuilding an image from a Ubuntu image? I'm using Google Cloud, and I hate the crap they put together for their Ubuntu OS.
[07:01] <sera_denoir> Thanks Flannel ... I was lost on even where to look, so you gave me a lot to work with
[07:27] <EriC^^> morning all
[07:29] <Goop> EriC^^, Good morning
[07:31] <sera_denoir> Flannel: I finally fixed it ... I had to go a bit crazy and do 'apt-get purge php7.1*' ... after that and an apache restart I think I'm back in business
[07:37] <BillGHero> I have a recent Ubuntu 18.04 desktop installation that suddenly will not bring up the GUI gdm3 anymore. Was working fine for 2 weeks. I think it has stopped using the driver. Any idea how to pinpoint the cause of the problem?
[07:52] <BillGHero> Can anyone advise how to pinpoint cause of not getting into GUI login screen at boot?
[07:54] <guiverc> BillGHero, check you can login via terminal (ie. ctrl+alt+f4 or whatever tty you prefer), then `df -h` (check you have free space in /home ($USER) - gui login will fail if no space; and you'll end up in login loop if it doesn't have working space
[07:55] <syb0rg> BillGHero, have you looked at journalctl, or in /var/log to see if there are errors?
[07:56] <BillGHero> guiverc: Already did. Set up ssh server so I can cut/paste on another machine. PLenty of room on my root/home drive.
[07:56] <guiverc> actually the login loop assumes gdm3 (or your dm) was working; if you have graphic issues I'm not equipped to help sorry
[07:58] <syb0rg> and why do you think it is a driver issue? Is that just a guess or did you see some message or something that indicates it?
[07:58] <syb0rg> and what happens if you run startx manually?
[07:58] <BillGHero> syb0rg: I have a consistent error in Xorg.0.log: https://pastebin.com/0ADkMaGL
[07:59] <syb0rg> "reverting to software rendering" yeah that does seem like it could be a driver issue
[08:01] <syb0rg> BillGHero, do you use an nvidia card with nouveau drivers?
[08:01] <syb0rg> If so, this could be relevant https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting/#index1h3
[08:03] <BillGHero> syb0rg: yes I have an nVidia card, I will read that article. Strange thing is, this is a clean install of 18.04 and was working fine for at least 2 weeks, even playing high-demand games like KSP and Rocket League.
[08:03] <syb0rg> yeah that is a bit odd, ubuntu rarely breaks out of the blue like that in my experience
[08:03] <syb0rg> on the other hand, 18.04 is still pretty new
[08:04] <syb0rg> btw, I linked you to the relevant section in that article, you probably don't need to read the whole thing.
[08:05] <BillGHero> syb0rg: I am trying to get the nVidia driver back to working again. I am not sure if troubleshooting nouveau will help me. It's a 770 card, and it is not fully supported by nouveau yet...
[08:05] <syb0rg> well I did ask if you were using nouveau or not =P
[08:05] <lord734> hi how can i know that i have installed a 64 bit ubuntu or a 32 bit ? uname -m says x86_64
[08:05] <syb0rg> what is the output of lsmod | grep nvidia ?
[08:06] <syb0rg> lord734, that is your answer
[08:06] <syb0rg> the _64 part means 64 bit
[08:06] <lord734> whats that  x86 ?
[08:07] <syb0rg> here ya go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86
[08:07] <BillGHero> cyb0rg: https://pastebin.com/t3rLQx5n
[08:07] <syb0rg> hey that's syb0rg with an s =P
[08:07] <lord734> ok so this OS is 64 bit ?
[08:07] <syb0rg> correct, lord734
[08:08] <lord734> ok thanks
[08:08] <syb0rg> so it looks like you have the nvidia drivers loaded, including the drm module
[08:08] <syb0rg> have you tried purging and reinstalling the nvidia drivers?
[08:09] <BillGHero> syb0rg: Right? I thought that was weird to see given the situation.
[08:09] <BillGHero> syb0rg: Yes, I had a bit of a hard time too. There were some broken packages/depndencies that made it harder. Finally got it all off.
[08:10] <BillGHero> syb0rg: Tried both nvidia-driver-390 and 396 as well.
[08:10] <syb0rg> do you know what kernel paramaters you are using? if you are using nomodeset somehow that might be the issue
[08:12] <syb0rg> sysctl -a
[08:12] <syb0rg> oops that wasn't a terminal =P
[08:15] <syb0rg> BillGHero, what do you get from cat /proc/cmdline
[08:16] <BillGHero> syb0rg: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro recovery nomodeset
[08:16] <syb0rg> ahaha!
[08:16] <syb0rg> nomodeset
[08:16] <namix> with 18.04 when I execute with sudo or su with other username a X Program, i get No protocol specfied, a symlink from .Xauthoritiy isnt working, whats to do?
[08:16] <syb0rg> that is probably the issue
[08:17] <BillGHero> syb0rg: Is that in GRUB ?
[08:17] <syb0rg> most likely BillGHero
[08:20] <syb0rg> namix, this might help https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/108784/running-gui-application-as-another-non-root-user
[08:21] <BillGHero> syb0rg: just looked up how to do that. There is no mention of nomodeset in my /etc/default/grub file
[08:21] <BillGHero> syb0rg: Could Ubuntu devs accidentally made it a default in recent patch?
[08:22] <syb0rg> that seems unlikely to me
[08:22] <namix> syb0rg: thx
[08:22] <syb0rg> np namix
[08:22] <syb0rg> BillGHero, is there something like modeset=0 ?
[08:23] <BillGHero> syb0rg: https://pastebin.com/1QshRWiP
[08:24] <syb0rg> BillGHero, yeah doesn't look like the issue is there
[08:25] <syb0rg> BillGHero, check the files in /etc/modprobe.d
[08:26] <syb0rg> try cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep modeset
[08:27] <BillGHero> syborg: Only 1 line - options nvidia_drm modeset=1
[08:28] <syb0rg> Huh, that's interesting
[08:28] <syb0rg> so the only explicit reference we have found so far to modesetting has it enabled
[08:28] <syb0rg> yet it is disabled in your kernel parameters
[08:28] <syb0rg> might as well try running sudo update-grub and restarting, though I doubt that will fix it
[08:29] <syb0rg> that might help if nomodeset was enabled in grub, then disabled but update-grub not run
[08:30] <syb0rg> there has to be somewhere else it can be set...
[08:30] <BillGHero> syb0rd: Right? But I updated grub and will restart it just in case that was it.
[08:30] <syb0rg> yeah it is unlikely but easy to try, might as well
[08:35] <syb0rg> and this is assuming nomodeset is even the issue...
[08:35] <syb0rg> Well BillGHero I am going to call it a night, hopefully you make progress on this
[08:35] <BillGHero> syb0rg: Goodnite. thanks for the help.
[08:36] <mqt> How to make clicking to address bar select in Firefox?
[08:36] <mqt> select all
[08:37] <cornjulio> can anyone tell me where ubuntu stores program files i need to find and edit an ini file that a program uses
[08:39] <mqt> I found solution to my problem: about:config and browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll to true
[08:39] <BillGHero> cornjulio: Which program are you looking to configure?
[08:39] <cornjulio> mame
[08:41] <BillGHero> cornjulio: have you tried checking for a .mame directory in your home folder?
[08:42] <cornjulio> how to check for hiddden files terminal hav forgotten
[08:42] <BillGHero> in terminal? ls -ah
[08:43] <cornjulio> nothing there under that name
[08:44] <cornjulio> scratch that
[08:44] <cornjulio> wrong computer lmao
[08:51] <BillGHero> cornjulio: did you find mame.ini?
[08:58] <inflex> Have a newly installed from fresh 18.04 machine that's now just filling the boot screen with ^@^@^@^@^@^@^ characters
[08:58] <inflex> Tried googling but not sure if google is ignoring that sequence or it just doesn't happen
[08:59] <guiverc> cornjulio, a `apt-file show mame` tells me /etc/mame/mame.ini (& other files) - i'm not sure what you're after but is that it?
[09:00] <cornjulio> thats it-thanks for your help-juggling mame setup an my baby girl lols
[09:01] <cornjulio> i was on my laptop and mame is on the desktop both run 18.04 mate n i got mixed up
[09:01] <guiverc> inflex, i don't know, but did you verify the download was okay? (md5sum etc)  and 'try ubuntu' awhile to verify things looked okay (esp. write to usb-thumb-drive..)
[09:02] <seven-eleven> hi
[09:02] <seven-eleven> how do i install gnome in ubuntu??
[09:03] <guiverc> seven-eleven, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[09:03] <seven-eleven> guiverc, DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 18.04 LTS"
[09:04] <guiverc> ubuntu-desktop will install gnome & all apps used by 18.04 ubuntu [gnome] - are you running a flavor of ubuntu (xubuntu, kubuntu... as 18.04 has gnome as its default DE)
[09:05] <seven-eleven> guiverc, kubuntu
[09:05] <seven-eleven> i just install ubuntu-gnome-desktop but when i login i dont see gnome as option in SDDM
[09:06] <nightwarrior-xxx> hi there,Can anyone help me with advanced bash tutorials
[09:07] <guiverc> i don't know sddm (haven't used kubuntu in years sorry), but https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ubuntu-gnome-desktop looks like it pulls in gnome-session & ubuntu-desktop to me..  i'd have expected that to work seven-eleven
[09:10] <guiverc> you could try making gdm3 your dm (dpkg-reconfigure) & try that; but i'm guessing here.. (using dpkg-reconfigure to put back sddm back to your default later) -- guess only
[09:19] <seven-eleven> guiverc, does gdm3 support kde too?
[09:19] <seven-eleven> i want to choose upon login whether to login to kde or gnome
[09:28] <seven-eleven> guideline, gdm3 logs into gnome but doesnt show kde :\
[09:30] <guiverc> seven-eleven, (sorry away) i realize what you want to do; like i choose gnome/xfce/mate... but I don't know sddm, i'm hoping it'd do what you want, but didn't know..  a dpkg-reconfigure should let you return it to sddm - but I have no other ideas..
[09:32] <guiverc> you could ask again later, when hopefully there are people around how know better than i do...
[09:33] <seven-eleven> ok cheers \o/
[09:36] <qwebirc20807> who can edit wiki.ubuntu.com? I have suggestion to add webchat links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:38] <guiverc> qwebirc20807, what do you want changed (it really should be done by an IRC team member, not just someone who can edit wikis)
[09:38] <qwebirc20807> links are in form of https://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1&channels=%23<channel name> with random nick
[09:43] <young> hello
[09:43] <guiverc> qwebirc20807, i won't -- i don't understand enough & thus won't touch it.. i suspect it should be someone in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc  (ubuntu irc members/team)
[09:48] <guiverc> okay qwebirc20807 i followed link & now think its a useful idea..  were you thinking of an extra column (with links into the rooms?) or selected channels in link section??
[09:58] <qwebirc20807> I created all links https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2jjG2SbJQn/
[10:01] <qwebirc20807> I don't know what kind of function current link column has. For instance I cannot open current links
[10:05] <guiverc> qwebirc20807, current link column?  most have channel (xdg-open to channel), description & contact person are what I see..
[10:06] <qwebirc20807> Yes. But is xdg-open configured by default?
[10:06] <guiverc> yep - works on my box too (I tested it)
[10:07] <qwebirc20807> Ok. Then I suggest web irc column
[10:09] <qwebirc20807> top of the table could be instructions which link to choose
[10:10] <Gorra> Hi, does anyone know a good tutorial for containerization (Docker, LXC)?
[10:19] <guiverc> qwebirc20807, support done, but untidy :(  (need to hide long link)
[10:21] <guiverc> qwebirc20807, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList/Support  (a number of subpages make up complete list or main page)
[10:21] <qwebirc20807> Yes. Good job! I suggest add some explanation what web irc column is
[10:22] <eldask> hey guys, I have this very old macbook pro dual core, it's junk, but it's always nice to have an extra box.  I've installed 16.04 on it, but it keeps overheating whenever any processing occurs.  I've installed TLP and thermald to no avail.  Anything else I could do to help resolve this?
[10:23] <qwebirc20807> alternatively just name it quick access
[10:23] <guiverc> qwebirc20807, are you able to joined #ubuntu-discuss please
[10:24] <qwebirc20807> ok
[10:27] <EriC^^> eldask: anything using the cpu excessively? try "top" in a terminal, have you cleaned the fans btw?
[10:29] <eldask> EriC^^, well, not when I'm not doing any processing.  Right now top of the list is htop at .7%.  As far as the fans, it's worth noting that the machine doesn't overheat under osx, only under ubuntu.  I would think it's a driver issue but sensors returns max rpm for the fan, I'm at a loss
[10:29] <Ameisen> Trying to figure out when trying to build gcc in Ubuntu, it keeps trying to test for size_t with sizeof ((size_t)) instead of sizeof (size_t)
[10:29] <Ameisen> the configure script specifies both
[10:32] <eldask> EriC^^, I'll try to see how I can open this abomination of a computer to clear out the heatsink/fans, just typing out the previous sentence, fan shouldn't be struggling to maintain temperature at idle.  But that wouldn't explain why it doesn't overheat under osx
[10:38] <EriC^^> eldask: possibly some misconfiguration or acpi settings or something
[10:40] <EriC^^> eldask: under osx what's the actual temperature it's running at?
[10:41] <eldask> high 50's, hang on, screwdriver'ing this thing
[10:49] <root_> hello
[11:00] <vlstv> hi!
[11:08] <eldask> EriC^^, well, there was quite a bit of dust in there.  Running it after the cleanup and with the case opened seems to "solve" the problem lol
[11:18] <EriC^^> eldask: hmm, i wouldn't leave the case opened
[11:18] <EriC^^> perhaps it works not with it closed too?
[11:19] <eldask> EriC^^, maybe, but honestly, this thing is from like 2004, I'm just going to leave it in a corner and sandbox things on it until it dies
[11:20] <eldask> EriC^^, and thanks for the help!
[11:20] <EriC^^> eldask: ok, problem
[11:20] <EriC^^> *no problem
[11:24] <eldask> lol, it is now an es node
[11:36] <system16> hi. i cant right click
[11:37] <system16> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz (502MHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.4 GiB Free) Swap: 337.9 MiB Total (337.9 MiB Free) • Storage: 6.4 GB / 22.3 GB (15.9 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 520 @ Intel Corporation Skylake Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 52m 57s
[11:37] <system16> btw ubuntu wont recognize my nvidia 940 m
[11:37] <system16> i installed ubuntu on a usb drive.
[11:39] <system16> ...on an 8 GB usb 3.0 drive
[11:41] <system16> my gpu problem isnt really important but my right click problem is.
[11:41] <Gorra> Hi, does anyone know a good tutorial for containerization (Docker, LXC)?
[11:52] <CalicoFlows> I need to expand my partition. I have a USD drive and Gparted installed. However there are confusing aspects to as to how to get GParted on a bootable USB
[11:52] <CalicoFlows> Plus, I see some people having issues ( 0
[11:52] <CalicoFlows> down vote
[11:52] <CalicoFlows> favorite
[11:52] <CalicoFlows> I can't seem to get the latest Gparted to boot on my UEFI laptops)
[11:52] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[11:53] <CalicoFlows> Ooops. Anyway, anything in particular that I need to do in order to ensure that I am not gonna lose all my data by using weird setup...
[11:54]  * CalicoFlows slaps BluesKaj with a large trout 
[11:55] <system16> CalicoFlows, do you know why i cant right click
[11:55] <system16> ?
[11:55] <system16> this is a laptop btw
[11:56]  * BluesKaj cooks the trout 
[11:56] <BluesKaj> hey CalicoFlows
[11:56] <CalicoFlows> :)
[12:00] <CalicoFlows> Alright... Found UNetbootin. Installed it, selected the gparted .iso but unetbootin does not see my usb drive even though I see it in the file browser??
[12:01] <CalicoFlows> Do I need to preformat it or something...
[12:03] <system16> nvm
[12:03] <system16> i fixes it MYSELF.
[12:12] <vavkamil> hi
[12:12] <EriC^^> hello
[12:14] <vavkamil> I have 16.04 with unity and I wan't to hide title bar of specific window
[12:15] <EriC^^> vavkamil: try compizconfig-settings-manager or devilspie can do that
[12:15] <vavkamil> I'm looking on google right now, it's possible to hide for all programs
[12:16] <vavkamil> I would love to have keyboard shortcut to hide/show it in specific window
[12:16] <EriC^^> vavkamil: you can do that for a specific window based on its titlebar for instance
[12:17] <EriC^^> give it a more unique title than other instances of the program and use that as a reference
[12:17] <EriC^^> use some script that adds removes that etc with the keyboard shortcut
[12:17] <vavkamil> it's for a guvcview web cam software
[12:18] <EriC^^> i think devilspie would be easier
[12:18] <vavkamil> goal is to have a webcam output on screen without titlebar
[12:18] <Mibix> what is the offtopic channel
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !ot | Mibix
[12:18] <EriC^^> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:19] <Mibix> ty
[12:19] <EriC^^> vavkamil: sudo apt-get install devilspie and read about its usage, it can do that
[12:27] <CalicoFlows> Moving a partition might cause your operating system to fail to boot https://i.imgur.com/om09Yvb.jpg
[12:28] <CalicoFlows> Doesn't sound good...
[12:30] <cfhowlett> why are you moving parts?
[12:31] <lbdesign> cfhowlett: Moving or resizing an partition can take a long time. If you could backup and reinstall that would be much easier.
[12:31] <CalicoFlows> because I am running out of space and I have unallocated space before my sys partition
[12:31] <cfhowlett> CalicoFlows, see the above from lbdesign
[12:31] <Mibix> what are there no live imaging tools for ubuntu live acronis
[12:31] <Mibix> *like acronis
[12:31] <lbdesign> and it's advicable to put system partition at the start of the disk.
[12:31] <Mibix> does everyone just use cron jobs to restore
[12:32] <Mibix> only imaging tools ive found are done out of the OS
[12:32] <EriC^^> CalicoFlows: are you doing this from a live usb?
[12:32] <CalicoFlows> I don't mind waiting. Is it safe though, is this just a blanket warning or is it going to break my system
[12:32] <CalicoFlows> EriC^^, yes
[12:34] <EriC^^> CalicoFlows: it should not present any problems after the move i guess
[12:34] <EriC^^> if it does, you can always chroot into the install from the live usb and reinstall grub
[12:35] <EriC^^> i think grub's core image looks for (disk,partition)/boot/grub and doesn't care about the actual sector location
[12:35] <CalicoFlows> EriC^^, whew, I don't know what that is but OK, wish me luck, I will pull the trigger...
[12:35] <lbdesign> if the UUID doesn't change I don't think it would be an issue.
[12:51] <qwebirc82177> Hello guys, i have a small question about dual booting ubuntu, anyone could help me?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !ask | qwebirc82177
[12:52] <system16> why there is an ? mark in wifi icon ?
[12:53] <CalicoFlows> Success!
[12:54] <qwebirc82177> haha okay sorry. Yesterday i installed ubuntu alongside windows, and i am not sure what i did, but now when i turn on my computer, it goes directly to windows without asking if i want to boot ubuntu or windows (via gnu). if i want to access ubuntu i have to press F11 and choose it. I didn't do this intentionally but i like how it is. I am trying to do the same on my other laptop, but i don't know why the other laptop gives me t
[12:59] <CalicoFlows> How do I change the permissions on my NTFS windows partiotion so I could write.... confusing google results...
[13:04] <X_CrackRAT> search tools d-tect buat nyari ip tiktok web nya www.amemv.com terus ddos kalau mau
[13:04] <X_CrackRAT> exit
[13:04] <CalicoFlows> huh?
[13:04] <X_CrackRAT> quit
[13:05] <tomreyn> CalicoFlows: see mount(8), "Mount options for ntfs": uid, gid, umask
[13:06] <tomreyn> "mount(8)" is a man page, which becomes available via the "man 8 mount" command when you have the "man-db" package installed
[13:17]  * X_CrackRAT 
[13:54] <artur_> Are /etc/apt/source.list and package cache the same?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !sources | artur_
[13:56] <sonicwind> artur: no, they are not
[13:57] <sonicwind> package cache is /var/cache/apt/archives
[13:57] <sonicwind>  /etc/apt/sources.list is which things such as universe, main, etc, you are subscribed to
[13:57] <sonicwind> repositories
[13:58] <artur_> Are packages in ubuntu and Debian quite different?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> yes
[13:59] <artur_> I mean .deb extension is the same
[13:59] <sonicwind> .debs from your installed packages end up in /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:04] <artur_> What cost windows user pay for not using any packet manager system?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> pretty much off=topic here, yes?
[14:04] <artur_> yes
[14:06] <artur_> cfhowlett: all others irc channels are dead. Getting answer is like winning a lottery.
[14:07] <V7> Hey all
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> artur_: there is #ubuntu-offtopic not really dead
[14:07] <V7> When exeuting startx it shows wm, but after shows blank screen
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> V7: startx is not the way to launch anymore
[14:08] <V7> After changing tty from tty1 to tty2 and back it shows wm properly
[14:08] <V7> lotuspsychje: Yup, but why it shows black screen ?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> V7: start from the beginning, ubuntu version, DE? WM?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> what are you trying to do...
[14:09] <V7> ubuntu 12.04, no de, i3-wm
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> V7: first of all 12.04 is end of life
[14:09] <V7> I've downloaded ubuntu12.04 core without anything
[14:09] <oerheks> LoLz good joke V7
[14:09] <V7> So after installed xorg and used default configurations
[14:10] <V7> Other ubuntu it won't hand;e
[14:10] <V7> handle *
[14:10] <V7> What could this be ?
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> V7: install a supported ubuntu version from the topic, then come back please
[14:10] <V7> ...
[14:11] <V7> lotuspsychje: 18.04 it won't handle
[14:11] <V7> This is Celeron M
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> V7: we have happy i3 users on 18.04...
[14:11] <V7> Without PAE flag
[14:11] <V7> lotuspsychje: This is about CPU instructions
[14:11] <V7> 18.04 needs cx8, pae flags on CPU
[14:13] <cfhowlett> celeron m?  old tech.  xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for old tech.  might be worth trying
[14:16] <oerheks> so get a legal copy of 14.04, ... " the boot option forcepae must be used twice to work with Celeron M and Pentium M processors. " -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions/before--after
[14:16] <oerheks> 12.04 is dead
[14:16] <Jonta> "legal copy"?
[14:16] <oerheks> .. 32 bit is dead, but that is an other issue
[14:17] <xangua> According to this, 18.04 should also have a force pae option https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Jonta: there are malicious iso's on the web too you know..
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> Jonta: legal, the ubuntu official way
[14:18] <oerheks> Jonta, not a nock-off like mint or something :-P
[14:30] <pineapplelover_> hello I am using kubuntu with a dark theme...is there a way to keep DraftSight with for instance the ubuntu human theme?
[14:31] <Bahablast> Hello
[14:31] <pineapplelover_> because the program is really uncomfortable with the system theme
[14:31] <Bahablast> Is arch linux for 32 bit still on?
[14:31] <Bahablast> I would like to install arch linux on my 32 bit machine
[14:31] <blackflow> Bahablast: what is arch linux?
[14:32] <Bahablast> You know
[14:32] <oerheks> Bahablast, search for the #arch channel, we are not the yellow pages
[14:32] <Bahablast> Alright
[14:32] <Bahablast> Thanks
[14:34] <VenKai> Hello
[14:34] <VenKai> Hello
[14:34] <VenKai> h3llo
[14:35] <VenKai> Eric
[14:35] <EriC^^> me?
[14:35] <EriC^^> odd
[14:38] <imeric> hello, I am trying to use mozc with, I think fcitx, on kubuntu 18.04
[14:38] <imeric> I had it working before but I have no clue how
[14:38] <imeric> then I reinstalled, so I can't get it to work. I installed fcitx fcitx-mozc, and then when that didnt work, I removed ibus and ibus-mozc
[14:39] <imeric> (when I said I reinstalled, I meant I reinstalled kubuntu, fresh)
[14:39] <oerheks> fcitx fcitx-mozc for japanese language support?
[14:39] <imeric> oerheks, yes
[14:40] <oerheks> looking at this xubuntu page, it takes a few steps https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2346559
[14:40] <oerheks> not sure how kubuntu is different, maybe you want to reask in #kubuntu too
[14:43] <imeric> its strange that when you change a setting, you can have two or three icons that appear to be serving input methods
[14:44] <imeric> en, us, and one that looks like a keyboard
[14:44] <imeric> before I had just the one that looks like a keyboard. and when I clicked on it, it switched to the orange mozc icon for hiragana
[14:44] <oerheks> the one that looks like a keyboard = onscreen keyboard?
[14:45] <ZPQ> Bahablast: you can check it on https://distrowatch.com/
[14:46] <imeric> oerheks, when you click the keyboard, a menu shows that lets you switch from english typing to mozc japanese typing, hiragana, katakana, half width etc. it also included an on screen keyboard too
[14:47] <oerheks> oh oke, that would be the keyboard selector ?
[14:47] <imeric> oerheks, yeah
[14:47] <imeric> woah, it works suddenly
[14:48] <imeric> not sure what I did
[14:48] <oerheks> imeric, good, now run updaes, there might be fresh packages waiting
[14:48] <oerheks> c/updates
[14:50] <imeric> i see, it seems to only work in some windows
[14:50] <imeric> and not others
[15:06] <solidfox> oerheks, hi. I was formerly imeric
[15:07] <solidfox> oerheks, so. I had to run im-config -n fcitx
[15:07] <solidfox> oerheks, im-config has a gui but it wasn't giving me the option to select fcitx, since the window never appeared after choosing "yes" on the warning
[15:07] <solidfox> in case anyone else ever has the same issue, that is what I did
[15:08] <solidfox> now it works in all windows and starts on login
[15:09] <oerheks> solidfox, oke, good to know, we don't get japanese input issues that often
[15:22] <_ix> Friends, I'm buying a dell xps 9360 off of craigstlist w/ 16.04 installed. I've used debian and rhel distributions in the past, but I'm less familiar with ubuntu... anyone care to give me a quick rundown of commands/operations I ought to run in the brief few minutes I have to check the system out before making the purchase?
[15:24] <refracta_noob> _ix: lshw | less
[15:24] <gigirock> _ix, lol very difficult to have a becnhmark in one command, so you can inxi command to get the whole configuration and then top to know how stressed are the ram and cpu's
[15:25] <oerheks> or just read https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-xps-13-9360-13-3-core-i5-7200u-8-gb-ram-256-gb-ssd-english/specs/
[15:25] <refracta_noob> lshw will tell you how much ram is installed, among other things, in case that's what you're unsure of
[15:26] <oerheks> after buying, before install, check for bios updates
[15:26] <gigirock> i5 7th gen is 2 core only ?
[15:27] <oerheks> easy to find such info ... https://ark.intel.com/products/95443/Intel-Core-i5-7200U-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz
[15:31] <ZPQ> _ix: commands in ubuntu is more or less the same as in debian
[15:36] <lbdesign> _ix: inxi will give you a quick overview of the hardware. It's in the repos
[15:43] <_ix> Thanks very much, folks.
[15:44] <brenster21> hey so I need to transfer a ton of files off of a drive with I/O problems
[15:45] <EriC^^> brenster21: use gddrescue
[15:45] <brenster21> ok
[15:45] <brenster21> drive still works just throws i/o errors once in a while
[15:46] <brenster21> (talking about externals
[15:46] <apb1963> I just bought a shiny new VPS and set it up with 16.04.  Oddly, it has a 2.6 kernel.  Why does it not upgrade to the latest kernel automagically with apt-get dist-upgrade?  How to do it correctly?  This VPS will be a web server - is there any reason I would not want a low latency kernel instead?  See it yourself: https://pastebin.com/qZL083Zp
[15:46] <apb1963> brenster21, any reason rsync wouldn't work?
[15:47] <EriC^^> apb1963: depends on how the vps hosting is set up, sounds like it's using the host's kernel, you'd have to change that from some control panel or speak with the vps hosts if possible to change it
[15:47] <brenster21> apb1963 no idea never heard of it
[15:48] <brenster21> basically just wanted a command that i could run to transfer the files, and skip any file with i/o error and write the name in a file. unless you know a better way
[15:49] <oerheks> apb1963,  sounds like a vps with vagrant :-D
[15:49] <apb1963> brenster21, google it and then get help in #rsync after you've attempted it ... there's probably a way to get the results you want.
[15:49] <Neo> hey everyone ubuntu installer's udev is choking on a bare-metal server ipmi not sure whats going on
[15:49] <apb1963> oerheks, I don't know vagrant
[15:50] <oerheks> vagrant is a vm based on that stock old kernel, with patches..
[15:50] <brenster21> will do
[15:50] <apb1963> oh
[15:50] <apb1963> hmm
[15:50] <Neo> here's the syslog if anyone can help me diagnose what's going on http://termbin.com/d8kn
[15:50] <oerheks> not ubuntu, just a hashicorp thingy
[15:50] <Neo> ubuntu installer is hung at "configuring network interfaces, 33%"
[15:50] <apb1963> oerheks, so does that mean it's not upgradeable or...  I'm not sure what to do with that info.
[15:51] <oerheks> apb1963, jups, not upgradable
[15:51] <brenster21> apb1963 is isnt rysnc for moving folders across not networks?
[15:51] <apb1963> figures
[15:51] <oerheks> there is #vagrant here on #freenode too
[15:51] <apb1963> well... is there any good reason I shouldn't use it anyway as-is then?
[15:52] <Neo> the ironic bit is that the interfaces are getting configured, but something else is preventing the installer from progressing forward
[15:52] <apb1963> brenster21, files, folders.. it's all the same.  Folders are a special type of file.
[15:54] <jmadero> hi all - is there a new way to set login manager in Ubuntu 18.04, installed mdm and ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure mdm, no errors but it didn't change from gdm
[15:55] <brenster21> apd1963 i will read up on it
[15:58] <apb1963> oerheks, thanks for that, I'll ask there if it's alive :)
[16:00] <yusimple> hi
[16:00] <yusimple> is there any one
[16:01] <Jonta> Yes
[16:09] <CalicoFlows> I installed Kubuntu on my Thinpad t430 a few months back. It was great up until a week ago or so. Since then the laptop idles at 55 degrees, it's quite warm to the touch, programs such as Skype, Viber, Discord are laggy and freeze for some seconds... I really would appreciate if someone can help me fix this, quite disappointing, I feel like going back to Windows again
[16:17] <Jonta> CalicoFlows: Checked the internals for dust buildup?
[16:20] <CalicoFlows> I seriously doubt it as I got the laptop a few months ago, got cleaned and this temp rise happened rather suddenly
[16:21] <CalicoFlows> I used to think that probably it was the fact that my system partition was cluttered
[16:22] <CalicoFlows> but today I expanded it FINALLY and there's no change
[16:23] <CalicoFlows> just ran BleachBit ... :)_
[16:24] <CalicoFlows> if there are applications opened such as viber or discord, sooner or later it would start freezing randomly for a few seconds
[16:25] <Jonta> Do any of them use an inordinate amount of CPU/RAM/IO while "idle"?
[16:26] <CalicoFlows> I really don't know as Ksysguard was not working up until today either
[16:26] <CalicoFlows> Brave browser also has that issue btw esp. if it's playing video
[16:35] <Curlyears> heigh hough
[16:35] <Curlyears> nacc, are you present?
[16:35] <Curlyears> I dunno, it is me, or is it just me?
[16:38] <Curlyears> EriC^^?
[16:41] <sonicwind> CalicoFlows - how do you like the t430 other than that?  Currently have a t430 being sent to me by a friend who doesn't need it.
[16:42] <Curlyears> problem:   I just installed 18.04 fresh.   B ut when I try to boot, I get nothiing.  I have done a :ive Session in which I ounted all three of myy hdds, and inspected them.  They are all there amd have all the data they should have.  When I try to boot, it takes a VERY long time to do anything, then brings up a CLI screen with dozens of error messa
[16:42] <Curlyears> ges I don't understand, at the end of which there are 5 or 6 things it says i t n eeds to :start" does them with an OK response, then just sits there forever
[16:42] <Curlyears> sahould I do another fresh install, maye?
[16:42] <Curlyears> maybe
[16:44] <Curlyears> I suppose I probably shouldn't represent wqhat's happening as "nothing," sorry
[16:44] <CalicoFlows> sonicwind, previously I had no complaints, I have ran more than 50 youtube tabs playing HD at the same time and I could instantly switch to any of them and would rarely think for more than a split second before it showed the video
[16:44] <sonicwind> wow
[16:44] <CalicoFlows> I removed the battery, the battery was also warm, I think it's better now let's see
[16:44] <sonicwind> it'll be my first i5
[16:45] <CalicoFlows> sonicwind, on different browsers too, opera, ff, chromium
[16:45] <CalicoFlows> at the same time (not 50 tabs on one browser)
[16:45] <wired19k> hey
[16:46] <wired19k> hey ayoub
[16:46] <Curlyears> hello?
[16:47] <wired19k> tsup?
[16:48] <Jonta> wired19k: Ask away about #ubuntu :)
[16:49] <wired19k> how do i locate chatrooms?
[16:49] <SporkWitch> !alis | wired19k
[16:49] <Curlyears> Jonta:  did you see my problem descripyion?
[16:49] <Jonta> Curlyears: Yes. Why do you ask?
[16:50] <Curlyears> I was hoping you might be able to assist?
[16:50] <Curlyears> I am very anxious, and my patience isn'/t what it should be, sorry
[16:51] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: can't do much without those error logs; can you get them onto a connected machine to pastebin?
[16:51] <Jonta> Same thought here. Photograph your screen if necessary
[16:52] <Curlyears> sporkwich :  I don't know how to pastebin data from a boot-time operation...once it screws up, there's no way to peruse files, etc.
[16:52] <Curlyears> I suppose I could send a copy of the next to the latest dmesg
[16:53] <solsTiCe> SporkWitch: Alis. Is that a freenode service ?
[16:53] <lbdesign> journalctl -b -1  will give you the log from the last boot session
[16:53] <Curlyears> (I probably should have thought of perusing that myself  *DOH*)
[16:54] <Curlyears> Jonta:   nop digital camera
[16:54] <Jonta> solsTiCe: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/findingchannels /msg alis LIST searchterm
[16:54] <Curlyears> thanks lbdesign
[16:54] <Jonta> Curlyears: You have no digital camera?
[16:54] <lbdesign> sory. journalctl -b -0  is the last boot               -1 is the one before that.
[16:55] <lbdesign> no worries
[16:55] <Curlyears> jonta:  nope.;  I am a destitue 66 year old, lukcky to have a computer at all.  The $65 I pay for "triple threeat" 60Mbps Internet, lowend cable access, and telephone is KILLING me with anxiety
[16:57] <Jonta> Oh dear. What about a phone with a camera?
[16:57] <CalicoFlows> Hmm... since I took out the battery, it seems that it is slightly better. I will still not put it until I verify that that's the case. But what do you think, is that likely?? that the taking off the battery could produce a change like that
[16:57] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: if it drops you to a shell you should be able to copy the logfile to a flash drive; if not, then you'd need to take a picture or load a live environment (assuming it's at least able to save its logs)
[16:57] <compdoc> Curlyears, when it just sits there waiting, its sometimes because it cant find drives that are listed in /etc/fstab
[16:58] <compdoc> you should boot ubntu from a dvd or usb, and turn off those mounts in fstab
[16:58] <lbdesign> Curlyears: sorry again. it's -1
[16:59] <SporkWitch> or if they're removable drives, set the "nofail" option
[17:02] <eraserpencil> what is the concept of an install on ubuntu? On Windows or macOS, I installed programmes to run/launch them. But on Ubuntu, I'm writing scripts, toggling executable bits, building from source code etc.
[17:03] <geirha> eraserpencil: you find most software from the software center
[17:03] <lbdesign> eraserpencil: Not in the last decade. You don't have to use a terminal at all if you don't wan't to.
[17:03] <compdoc> you dont have to build from source or write scripts. most people dont
[17:03] <Curlyears> jonta the only phone I have is plugged into the wall....no smart phone
[17:03] <geirha> you generally avoid downloading software from arbitrary websites
[17:04] <SporkWitch> eraserpencil: the concept is no different, you still have data files, libraries, and binaries.  Normally you would work within your package manager, which works like the "app stores" on smartphones.  Building from source is necessary if there's no pre-compiled version for your distro, using a script to grab and "install" stuff is necessary if there's no prepackaged version for your package manager
[17:05] <SporkWitch> eraserpencil: you can also use tools like checkinstall to create a package on the fly and install that way (to allow for easy management and removal later) instead of using "make install," when building from source
[17:06] <apro> what is the difference between using fdisk and lvm?
[17:06] <SporkWitch> fdisk deals with partitions, lvm deals with volumes
[17:08] <Curlyears> Jonta:  IU am entering "sudo apt-get update pastebinit" and receiving the following response:  E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[17:08] <Curlyears> I thought patesbininit was a source URI?
[17:08] <Curlyears> pastebinit
[17:08] <SporkWitch> "pastebinit" is not a valid URI
[17:09] <Curlyears> SporkWitch:  oh, right.  How *DO* I d/l and install pastebinit on this Live Session?
[17:10] <SporkWitch> why do you need to? install nc and use termbin
[17:10] <apro> SporkWitch: so in production , lvm does everything? we dont need to use fdisk?
[17:10] <Curlyears> what is nc, and how would I install it?
[17:10] <SporkWitch> apro: you still need partitions, the question is whether the partitions are inside the volume or the volumes are inside partitions
[17:10] <SporkWitch> !man nc | Curlyears
[17:10] <apro> SporkWitch: now what is the difference between volume and partition?
[17:11] <SporkWitch> !lvm | apro
[17:12] <SporkWitch> !apt | Curlyears
[17:13] <CalicoFlows> Anyone?          Hmm... since I took out the battery, it seems that it is slightly better. I will still not put it until I verify that that's the case. But what do you think, is that likely?? that the taking off the battery could produce a change like that
[17:13] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: nc is netcat, a tool for sending / receiving streams over a network.  It can be used with termbin by piping output to nc, which returns a link to the pasted text.  http://termbin.com/
[17:13] <Jonta> CalicoFlows: The T430's gotta be getting on in years. How new's the battery?
[17:14] <SporkWitch> apro: and i apologize, i was slightly mixed up in that i normally work with LVM and LUKS, and was conflating LUKS and partitioning.  Read the docs provided, though, they'll help you understand how it works and how to set it up.
[17:14] <eyeoh> I don't represent this channel but:
[17:15] <eyeoh> quite disappointing, I feel like going back to Windows again | Anyone?          Hmm...
[17:15] <eyeoh> this doesn't entice me
[17:15] <SporkWitch> k, don't let the door hit you
[17:15] <eyeoh> quote end quote
[17:15] <eyeoh> CalicoFlows: help us help you
[17:15] <sonicwind> Is there a help/man page for this exclamation point stuff here in irc? like SporkWitch is using.
[17:16] <SporkWitch> sonicwind: /msg dpkg help
[17:16] <EriC^^> sonicwind: /msg ubottu !factoid
[17:16] <apro> SporkWitch: LUKS?
[17:16] <SporkWitch> sorry, yeah, ubottu for this channel
[17:16] <sonicwind> thank you guys
[17:16] <SporkWitch> !luks | apro
[17:16] <SporkWitch> seriously...
[17:16] <SporkWitch> https://guardianproject.info/code/luks/
[17:16] <eyeoh> lol
[17:16] <Curlyears> SporkWitch:  I just sc anned throught the man page fo nc/.  I see no wayt to have the output available for linking on through irc
[17:17] <freezer> !luks | /dev/null
[17:17] <CalicoFlows> eyeoh, I was repeating the line, that's why I added anyone. And yes, I just came back to Ubuntu from Windows, wanting to solve the problem.
[17:17] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: see the link i posted for you
[17:17] <oerheks> sure there is Curlyears .. command | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:17] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: nc lets you send stuff, termbin listens for it and returns a link to it; very handy
[17:17] <CalicoFlows> Jonta, it might be the original battery, it probably is
[17:17] <Jonta> CalicoFlows: I replaced my T420's quite a while ago already. How much life do you get out of it?
[17:18] <eyeoh> what are the recommended requirements for Kubuntu?
[17:18] <CalicoFlows> Jonta, 2 hours at least. I was impressed. My Chromebooks battery wbecame unusable in just a year
[17:18] <eyeoh> I'd see how it goes on xfce just to test
[17:18] <SporkWitch> eyeoh: #kubuntu
[17:19] <eyeoh> I can't tell ifyou're a bot or not
[17:19] <eyeoh> CalicoFlows is using Kubuntu
[17:19] <Jonta> CalicoFlows: Worth checking the temperature on AC only then. Letting it run for a while
[17:19] <Jonta> eyeoh: SporkWitch isn't a bot
[17:20] <SporkWitch> are you sure?
[17:20] <oerheks> SporkWitch, eyeoh might be a bot :-D
[17:20] <eyeoh> I'm a bot
[17:20] <CalicoFlows> Jonta, yeah I'll do that now, thanks a lot
[17:20] <SporkWitch> people are just soggy, slow machines
[17:20] <Jonta> SporkWitch: I am not a bot trying to convince other people that plausible bots aren't bots
[17:20] <Jonta> 01001001 00100000 01100001 01101101 00100000 01101110 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01101111 01110100
[17:21] <hggdh> folks, back to topic, please
[17:25] <Curlyears> how dop I get termbin?  apt-get says it can l;ocate no such package. and i don't find it in the ubuntu software center
[17:25] <SporkWitch> ...
[17:26] <Curlyears> and how do I use nc and termbin if I am in themiddle of booting up?
[17:27] <alcides`> guys, whys is ubuntu minimal 18.04 not LTS?
[17:27] <alcides`> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[17:28] <alcides`> or it is and they are not saying
[17:28] <SporkWitch> alcides`: might not maintain the ISO for the 5 years?  It uses the same repos, though, so the installed system is still LTS
[17:28] <oerheks> Curlyears, really, is that a serious question ??
[17:28] <oerheks> lolz
[17:28] <Jonta> oerheks: No need for that
[17:28] <Curlyears> hgmmm....also, there will be no "previous" system logs, as I am in Live Session
[17:28] <alcides`> SporkWitch: 5 years? LTS is 3 years, right?
[17:29] <oerheks> alcides`, see the releasenotes, mninimal is build in into the main iso
[17:29] <Curlyears> oerheks:  why are you incredulous?  I need to "capture" information from the screen during a boot sequence.
[17:29] <oerheks> Curlyears, use a camera?
[17:29] <Jonta> Doesn't have a camera
[17:29] <SporkWitch> alcides`: new LTS comes out every two years (even numbered years' april release).  They're maintained for 5 years.  14.04 goes EOL next april, for example
[17:29] <Jonta> Mentioned above
[17:29] <Curlyears> oerheks:  I don't have one
[17:29] <oerheks> there is no way to make/store screenshots during boot
[17:30] <Curlyears> oerheks:   precisely!'
[17:30] <eraserpencil> hmm I think I was unclear. I mean if I build vim from source. Would I be considered to have installed vim?
[17:30] <Jonta> Curlyears: But if I understand you correctly, you do have the option of installing things on this system?
[17:30] <alcides`> SporkWitch: exactly... the last one was 16.04 so 18.04 should be LTS
[17:30] <SporkWitch> alcides`: it is, like i said
[17:31] <alcides`> so I'll go for it...
[17:31] <SporkWitch> alcides`: if the minimal ISO doesn't say LTS it could be an oversight or saying they won't necessarily maintain that ISO, but it's still using the same repos, so it's still LTS
[17:31] <alcides`> thanks for your help SporkWitch
[17:31] <Curlyears> Jonta:   I can install anything under Live Session that doesn't require a reboot to finish installing
[17:31] <oerheks> there is no minimal lts as seperate iso anymore ..
[17:31] <SporkWitch> alcides`: that is to say, the _installed system_ is still LTS
[17:31] <alcides`> SporkWitch: its what matters in the end
[17:32] <oerheks> Curlyears, you don't need to instal anything: command | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:32] <Curlyears> I diobn't hve termbin
[17:32] <SporkWitch> eraserpencil: sure, though typically installation includes putting the files required to run somewhere else and adding the executable to a dir in your path.  You could run it straight from your build directory if you wanted.  I'd recommend using checkinstall to create a package and install ti using your package manager; makes life easier, especially updating or removing it later
[17:32] <Jonta> That command doesn't use termbin
[17:32] <Jonta> Just the website
[17:33] <oerheks> Curlyears, nobody hads such package, it is a www adress
[17:33] <oerheks> that is why it is so good
[17:34] <Jonta> Neat indeed. Curlyears, the website explains it pretty well, imo: http://www.termbin.com/
[17:35] <Curlyears> oh, I see....OK sorry
[17:35]  * SporkWitch definitely linked it earlier
[17:35] <Curlyears> SporkWitch:   the foolwong inthe response I get when I use your command suggestion
[17:36] <Curlyears> install: missing destination file operand after 'pastebinit'Try 'install --help' for more information.nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin" port 9999: Name or service not known
[17:36] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: PEBCAK; read the instructions on the site
[17:36] <Jonta> What command exactly did you run, Curlyears?
[17:38] <eraserpencil> that is a good tip SporkWitch. Thanks alot
[17:40] <Sefid_par> Apache webserver downloads php files instead of execute in Ubuntu 18.04; php7.2 is installed. I can run it with -v; Also php7_module is listed in apachectl; I need some help.
[17:41] <Curlyears> I find nothing on that sebsite that helps me resolve this issue, SporkWitch.  The exmples there sim-ply user termbin 9999, just as I did
[17:42] <SporkWitch> Curlyears: put your glasses on and read it again
[17:42] <Jonta> Curlyears: It gives you a URL in return, yes?
[17:43] <SporkWitch> Jonta: he's not typing in the url, so it errors, as one would expect
[17:43] <Jonta> Curlyears: Run this: `echo just testing!  | nc termbin.com 9999` without the accents
[17:44] <SporkWitch> that bang may break things; you shouldn't have bare bangs
[17:44] <Curlyears> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get source pastebinit | nc termbin 9999nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin" port 9999: Name or service not knownE: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.listOOOH.   I  need to type termbin.com!!!!    nojt termbin
[17:45] <Jonta> Curlyears: That's the output when you run the command I asked you to run?
[17:45] <SporkWitch> holy crap, when you do what the instructions clearly say it works?
[17:45] <Jonta> SporkWitch: Copypasted it from the site. shrug.emoticon
[17:45] <oerheks> SporkWitch, unbelievable!
[17:46] <Jonta> SporkWitch: Time for an ice cream break. :)
[17:48] <Jonta> I've started watching Bob Ross again lately. Curlyears, how's it going over there?
[17:51] <oerheks> sudo snap install bobrossquotes && bobrossquotes
[17:52] <Curlyears> sudo apt-get install oastebinit | nc termbin.xom 9999 is the command I typed
[17:52] <Jonta> Alright
[17:52] <leftyfb> Curlyears: Are you trolling?
[17:52] <Jonta> Can you now run the command I suggested at HH:43?
[17:53] <leftyfb> Curlyears: "sudo apt-get install oastebinit | nc termbin.xom 9999"  is not a valid command and will error out for 2 different reasons
[17:54] <Jonta> Curlyears: Run this: `echo just testing  | nc termbin.com 9999` without the accents
[17:56] <stephen323> Jonta: literally the first box in the usage section on the website 😂
[17:56] <Jonta> stephen323: :)
[17:57] <Jonta> Can't all be expert internetters
[18:03] <Jonta> Aw. Seems we drove him away
[18:03] <SporkWitch> i don't see a part
[18:04] <Jonta> Doesn't autocomplete
[18:04] <SporkWitch> oh, nm, i missed it, he did part, right before your last mention of him
[18:37] <Vic2> Someone commented that the ondrej ppa is depreciated for 14.04 ... is that correct, and what does that mean exactly?
[18:38] <oerheks> Vic2, ask that 'someone',  we cannot comment on rumours
[18:39] <bites> hello. just upgraded to 18.04 and i'm having trouble with multipath. multipath -l shows 5 paths to one LUN, even though that server only has four fibre channel connections. there is one path i can't find in  /dev/disk/by-path/  and i would like to find out where it comes from and why it got added... and how i can get rid of it.
[18:39] <Vic2> That someone was one of the regulars in this room several weeks ago, so i hardly consider that a rumor, oerheks.
[18:43] <oerheks> don't get me wrong, ondrej ppa is well known and should be trusted, even this support channel does not support ppa's, but 14.04 .. really, i would use a newer version
[18:46] <Vic2> I do not disagree oerheks ... but sadly the server is being used for a project that has not yet transitioned from 14.04 to 18.04, which will happen later in the year.  So for now, to restate the question a bit -- are there any known issues with the ondrej repository in conjunction with 14.04?
[18:47] <oerheks> they should be mentioned @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ondrej ..
[18:48] <oerheks> and all depends on whet 14.04, with HWE ?
[18:48] <oerheks> c/what
[18:56] <MelaniaTrump> Which version should I install?
[18:57] <Jonta> The newest you can
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> MelaniaTrump: a supported version from the the topic
[18:58] <oerheks> not sure what the latest mint is ..
[18:58] <MelaniaTrump> Ok
[18:59] <Vic2> thank you for the info oerheks :)
[18:59] <ZPQ> oerheks: 16.04 but a new one is to be released soon (based on 18.04)
[19:01] <bluezinc> *sigh*...
[19:02] <bluezinc> if it weren't for LXD, I'd be back running arch...
[19:23] <Guest32107> Hello! I am from Kiev. Does anyone want to chat?
[19:29] <Guest32965> What's up guys? Anyone wanna share some info regarding Ubuntu 14.04 displaying errors about package manager failing to install packages?
[19:31] <ioria> Guest32965, what package ?
[19:35] <TheWild> hello
[19:37] <Jonta> TheWild: Hello
[19:38] <TheWild> I got no audio now. Volume is 100%, mute is not checked, Built-in audio is selected, but there's no sound either from internal speakers nor the connected speakers.
[19:38] <Jonta> Do you have alsamixer installed? If so: Have a look there
[19:39] <TheWild> my Linux contains something alsa*
[19:39] <TheWild> at least hints came in command line
[19:39] <bites> ha, rescanning the fibre channel helped. after a reboot there are only four paths left, as it should. but now there are two kworker processes stuck in state D.
[19:39] <Jonta> Run `alsamixer`
[19:41] <TheWild> well, what to do there?
[19:42] <Jonta> You can adjust various volumes
[19:42] <Jonta> Use the arrow keys
[19:42] <Jonta> Also: Mute with M
[19:43] <Jonta> Should say "MM" at the bottom of a "pillar" if it's muted
[19:43] <TheWild> everything seems fine there, but still no sound
[19:43] <TheWild> nothing is muted
[19:43] <Jonta> Hmm. You're sure you're playing audio at sufficient volume while experimenting?
[19:44] <TheWild> yup
[19:45] <J^3> Just wondered if anyone else have been experiencing snaps refusing to open. Having this since the update on 18.04 yesterday
[19:45] <lex0r> hello people. can anybody help me with some openssh related problem
[19:45] <lex0r> =
[19:45] <lex0r> ?
[19:45] <TheWild> ah no idea. "pulseaudio -k" fixed the issue
[19:46] <Jonta> lex0r: Yes
[19:46] <Jonta> TheWild: o/
[19:47] <TheWild> thanks Jonta though
[19:47] <Jonta> :)
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> lex0r: there is also an #openssh channel if you like
[19:47] <TheWild> previously I was searching for "sudo service (what?) restart"
[19:47] <Jonta> Two minds experiment better than one
[19:52] <lex0r> Jonta: so, I experienced some fun behavior with openssh. I accidentally locked myself out of the system with too many failed login attempts. I then set the MaxAuthTries to 7 (instead of the default 6) and then was able to log in again. The fun thing is that now I can fail the login countless times and don't get locked out anymore. I would have expected to just fail one more time and get locked out again (7
[19:52] <lex0r> - 6 = 1). but that's not the case.
[19:53] <lex0r> Jonta: additionally, if I comment out the setting MaxAuthTries (I guess that sets it to default) I can't log in anymore. Even if the latest attempt was successful.
[19:53] <Jonta> Guessing your session hasn't expired or something
[19:53] <Jonta> How do you authenticate to the server? Key, password or both?
[19:54] <lex0r> password, so far. I wanted to do some more testing with this strange behavior before changing to key based authentication
[19:55] <Jonta> Hmm
[19:55] <lex0r> hmmm, session. could be. what counts as a session and when would it change to a new one?
[19:55] <Jonta> How about you set the MaxAuthTries to something that works again
[19:55] <Jonta> Then exit
[19:55] <Jonta> And close the terminal you logged in from
[19:55] <Jonta> Then ssh to it from a new terminal
[20:03] <lex0r> Jonta: I tried like 15 times. 1. open terminal 2. ssh with wrong pw 3. exit terminal
[20:04] <Jonta> And you still get to log in?
[20:04] <lex0r> yes
[20:05] <Jonta> Hurr
[20:05] <Jonta> Then I'd read up on ssh-sessions if I were you
[20:05] <Jonta> Wait
[20:05] <leftyfb> lex0r: what version of ubuntu is this?
[20:05] <Jonta> Did you type `exit` when you'd been logged into the ssh-server?
[20:06] <lex0r> Jonta: yes, if I did successfully log in. But the many times I tried before I on purpose put a wrong pw
[20:06] <lex0r> leftyfb: 18.04
[20:06] <leftyfb> lex0r: what do your logs say?
[20:07] <qwebirc74732> Hi! Does ubuntu 18.04 still not support macbooks from 2016? :(
[20:07] <Guest32965> What's up guys? Anyone wanna share some info regarding Ubuntu 14.04 displaying errors about package manager failing to install packages?
[20:07] <Jonta> qwebirc74732: What problems did you have?
[20:07] <Jonta> Guest32965: What error messages did you get?
[20:07] <leftyfb> !repeat | Guest32965
[20:08] <leftyfb> !ask | Guest32965
[20:08] <qwebirc74732> I flashed ubuntu on a stick, loaded it on my macbook and the keyboard and trackpad didn't work...
[20:08] <qwebirc74732> i read around the web and i saw a few posts saying ubuntu isnt supported on mbp
[20:08] <Jonta> Hm, iirc, newer MacBook-trackpads are problematic
[20:08] <qwebirc74732> keyboards too
[20:09] <oerheks> which macbook exactly, qwebirc74732 ?
[20:09] <qwebirc74732> pro 13' with touchbar
[20:09] <lex0r> leftyfb: error: maximum authentication attempts exceeded for root from ....
[20:10] <oerheks> if you could use the live installer, i would think the keyboard works..
[20:10] <leftyfb> lex0r: don't ssh as root
[20:10] <lex0r> leftyfb: that's funny because with the right pw i can log in afterwards
[20:10] <qwebirc74732> as in install it on a partition? I can't do that knowing it might now work. i need to try it first before installing
[20:10] <qwebirc74732> not*
[20:11] <lex0r> leftyfb: I know, I know. I have not changed the default yet
[20:11] <leftyfb> lex0r: the default?
[20:11] <oerheks> hmm yes, needs work .. https://gist.github.com/roadrunner2/1289542a748d9a104e7baec6a92f9cd7
[20:11] <oerheks> includes a preliminary touchbar driver and keyboard fixes) *
[20:11] <lex0r> leftyfb: It's a server from a provider with default user root
[20:11] <qwebirc74732> ahhh damnit! I was hoping to install it without it taking too much time to fix
[20:11] <leftyfb> lex0r: by default, Ubuntu does not allow ssh'ing in as root. It doesn't even have a password set for root. You had to make a least 2 changes beyond the default to get in as root
[20:12] <lex0r> leftyfb: well, then that is what the provider did
[20:12] <qwebirc74732> i guess im gonna be stuck on a virtual ubuntu via vb ;(
[20:12] <lex0r> leftyfb: I'll add another user later and disabled root. but first I would like to understand that problem
[20:12] <lex0r> leftyfb: any ideas?
[20:13] <leftyfb> lex0r: try it with the other user first
[20:17] <lex0r> hmmm yea, alright
[20:17] <lex0r> leftyfb: one other thing. can the counter be reset? the one that counts how many times a wrong login attempt was made?
[20:17] <leftyfb> lex0r: I don't know. I hardly ever use passwords over ssh. I use ssh keys. You won't run into this issue if you use ssh keys
[20:18] <leftyfb> lex0r: https://access.redhat.com/discussions/764173   top result on google for "ssh reset auth retry counter"
[20:22] <qwebirc31476> Hello. Is there a way to use ubuntu as a portable OS? As in not installing it on my ssd but on a flash, and just plug the flash in whenever i need ubuntu
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc31476: yes, make the usb persistent
[20:23] <qwebirc31476> could you elaborate please?
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> !persistent | qwebirc31476
[20:24] <qwebirc31476> thank you!
[20:24] <qwebirc31476> great community! :)
[20:26] <RoadRunner> can't log into a new imap email account from Thunderbird (all settings in accordance with server's instructions) yet log in easily through their web mail. Anyone else had such issues with Thunderbird?
[20:27] <blackflow> RoadRunner: What's the error?
[20:27] <RoadRunner> login fails
[20:28] <RoadRunner> on both imap AND smtp servers
[20:28] <blackflow> RoadRunner: fails how. also, https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
[20:28] <oerheks> maybe that mail account has a device menu option, like gmail does.
[20:30] <blackflow> device menu?
[20:31] <oerheks> applications that are allowed to use the service
[20:31] <blackflow> ah. probably not. that's mostly about web access and 2FA and a custom device-specific password. none of whihc is supported by imap/smtp protocol
[20:32] <RoadRunner> blackflow: error message: "Login to server imap.rambler.ru failed"
[20:32] <blackflow> my bet is on badly configured SSL/TLS
[20:33] <RoadRunner> blackflow: ssl/tls configured exactly as instructed by server info
[20:33] <blackflow> RoadRunner: well, other than enabling Thunderbird logs as described on that wiki I linked, only rambler.ru can help you with an insight into their imap/smtp logs.
[20:35] <RoadRunner> thanks for the link, I'll check it out; just wanted to know if anyone else here ran into similar issues...
[20:36] <Curlyears> *weird*  heigh hough
[20:36] <Curlyears> I have reinstalled `18.04 several times now, and each toime I do something else goes wrpomg (UI am making the sam,e choices for configuration)
[20:37] <Curlyears> the most recent problem is that if I am not in /, I can't sudo.   It tells me no such command.  ??
[20:37] <leftyfb> Curlyears: since you seem to consistently make typos, I'm going to guess this issue isn't with the distro/installer
[20:38] <Curlyears> oh, if I try to login root, it tells me I cannot do that without an effective root
[20:38] <leftyfb> Curlyears: root login is disabled by default.
[20:38] <blackflow> Curlyears: `sudo whoami`  fails  but `/usr/bin/sudo whoami`  doesn't? that the case? if so, you have borked PATH.
[20:38] <blackflow> did you install any exotic shells?
[20:39] <Curlyears> leftyfb:  to be honesrt, I don't take as much care when typ[ing on irc, since I am attempting to be speedy. I don't make this many mistakes when doing system work, because I do not attempt to achieve high typing speeds when doinb system work
[20:39] <leftyfb> i'm sure
[20:40] <Curlyears> blackflow:  *doh* it didn't occur to me to ry /usr/bin/sudo          *DOH*
[20:41] <blackflow> D'OH!
[20:41] <Curlyears> I tell you, I am letrter thins upgrade get to m e.  I am not thinking clearly, for sure.  *blush*
[20:41] <leftyfb> Curlyears: if you can't use sudo anywhere but / , then you have a major problem. Unlikely to be anything you did during a typical install
[20:41] <leftyfb> Curlyears: please try to type clear English
[20:42] <leftyfb> Curlyears: is this the same machine/drive where you had a bad sector?
[20:43] <Curlyears> leftyfb:  are ytou suggesting the problem is withg the ins6taller program? (I kniuda doubt thatm ir thgere woulkd be tons of people complaaining about it
[20:43] <leftyfb> Curlyears: please try to type clear English
[20:43] <leftyfb> Curlyears: is this the same machine/drive where you had a bad sector?
[20:44] <Curlyears> bad sevctor?  I don't recall having a "bad sector" (I haven't seen that particular error message in severla years)
[20:45] <blackflow> holy unreadable text batman! pls, try to less tpyos!
[20:45] <Curlyears> leftyfb:   I have poor coordination and diabetic neuropathy in my  hands, so I have tpo watch the keyboad when I type...that is why so many typoes get past me.  I *DO* try to correct tthemn if I see that
[20:46] <leftyfb> Curlyears: We've seen you type clear English. And you just admitted a few minutes ago that you type fast and don't care about spelling when on IRC but "I don't make this many mistakes when doing system work".
[20:46] <Curlyears> an extraneous character slipping into a few words hardly changes the meaning.\
[20:47] <Curlyears> I just don't consider the priority than same leftyfb.  In personal communication, a few typos do not significant affect the compreehensibility of the sentences.
[20:47] <leftyfb> Curlyears: we're telling you, if you'd like to continue receiving support here, take the time to spell properly.
[20:47] <blackflow> indeedy. or speech recognition, if there's a medical condition.
[20:48] <Curlyears> myt spelling is just   My typing sucks
[20:48] <leftyfb> Curlyears: Don't hit enter until you look over your typing and fix the errors
[20:48] <Curlyears> 'is there a spech recognition package available at no cost for linux?
[20:49] <Curlyears> yeah, I do have that bad habvit, you're right, leftyfb
[20:49] <Curlyears> damn
[20:49] <Curlyears> habit
[20:50] <blackflow> Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
[20:50] <blackflow> the key here being, first and last letter of the word must not be scrambled.
[20:50] <oerheks> Mint?
[20:50] <blackflow> at least make that effort ;)
[20:50] <Rojola> hi
[20:51] <leftyfb> the point here is, it should not be up to us to decipher someone's lack of effort in communicating
[20:51] <hggdh> blackflow: this is not Cambridge. Please try to type correct English
[20:51] <leftyfb> hggdh: you directed that at the wrong person
[20:51] <Rojola> according to "du -csh" my home directory is 317 GB large.  Anyway, I did NOT save any movies or large amount of pictures.  How can I find out,  what causes this amount of space to be filled with data?
[20:51] <hggdh> Curlyears: also valid for you
[20:51] <Curlyears> leftyfbn:  dude, I have been irc-ing for over 20 years, and my spelling is FASR superior to the average irc-er
[20:52] <leftyfb> Curlyears: incorrect
[20:52] <hggdh> enough, folks.
[20:52] <leftyfb> Rojola: sudo apt install ncdu # you can use that to find out what's taking space
[20:52] <Rojola> thank you leftyfb
[20:53] <Curlyears> in any case, I am baffled as to why my system is bootable, butr claims to have no "effective root"
[20:53] <Rojola> leftyfb, looks good on the first sight
[20:53] <Rojola> it's scanning
[20:53] <leftyfb> 2018 Jun 16 16:38:14 <leftyfb>	Curlyears: root login is disabled by default.
[20:54] <blackflow> Curlyears: in ubuntu, root has no password set, thus cannot be logged into by default. Also, how about that relative vs absolute path for sudo? absolute path works?
[20:54] <Rojola> leftyfb, Thank you - it works perfectly!
[20:54] <Rojola> thank you =))
[20:54] <Curlyears> leftyfb:  I recognize and appreciate all the useful help you have been giving me.  I tend to get defensive about the typing issue, I admit.
[20:54] <leftyfb> Curlyears: if you can't use sudo anywhere but / , then you have a major problem. Unlikely to be anything you did during a typical install
[20:55] <leftyfb> Curlyears: I would run a disk check on your drive ... or think about what you might have done during or after install to cause these issues
[20:55] <oerheks> sudo <gui program> does not work anymore in 18,04
[20:55] <Curlyears> leftyfb:  so you stated earlier, and I concur.  I just can't figure out what DID cause this
[20:56] <hggdh> well, I have still been using sudo -b <program>
[20:56] <Rojola> an other question:   My computer is old and I need to replace it.  I would like to save all my data from my computer's hard drive to my external hard drive.  Anyway, I would like to keep track of things and see if everything is still running and so on.  How can I visually see the copying-overall-progress?   Something like "wget" shows me when transferring files?
[20:57] <leftyfb> Rojola: rsync -av /path/to/source-files/ /path/to/target/
[20:57] <Curlyears> if (I do a mv hiome temp file, rename home, then put all my user files in /home, c an the system still function correctly?  IOs there an ything in the copy of linux in the /home dir that is critical to actual operations?
[20:57] <leftyfb> Rojola: rsync -av /path/to/source-files/ /path/to/target/ --progress
[20:57] <Rojola> leftyfb, you somehow know answers to all my problems
[20:57] <Rojola> leftyfb, should I get another child?
[20:57] <Rojola> ^.^
[20:58] <Rojola> thank you leftyfb
[20:58] <Curlyears> I am trying to c ome up with a way for my 1st 300T drive to be the place wher4e all new users are "created"
[20:58] <leftyfb> Curlyears: tell ya what. If I see more than 1 typo in your questions, I will not help you.
[20:59] <Curlyears> home to a temp file.  *OOPS(*  that one did ru8int the comprehensibility
[21:00] <Rojola> leftyfb, I just tried out your command,  but unfortunately it only shows the progress on a "per-file-basis" rather than an overall progress
[21:01] <leftyfb> Rojola: it shows all the copies going realtime. There's no such thing as an accurate progress bar for a copy like that.
[21:01] <Curlyears> leftyfb:  I *AM* trying.  I get a lot of n-key rollover problems because of my diabetic neuropathy,  my fingers a slightly numb all the time, so I don't tend to "feel" the mistakes
[21:02] <Curlyears> I am going to have to reinstall frsh AGAIN, and try not to screw it up this time
[21:02] <Rojola> leftyfb, I could think of a shellscript, that runs "du -cs /path/to/source" first, and memorizes the amount copied so it can show the overall percentage of copied data in real time
[21:03] <Rojola> there must be a way, the graphical tools also can do it
[21:03] <leftyfb> Rojola: yup. I've written something like this
[21:03] <leftyfb> Rojola: and it will work if your progress is based on space copied, not time
[21:03] <Rojola> is it released under an open source license?
[21:03] <Curlyears> Rojila:  only if you delayed output until after the copy operation was done.  It doesn't mtter if you knnow how much has alreadfy transferred, if you don't know the total number of files, and the total szie of the files
[21:04] <Rojola> leftyfb, space is all that is needed
[21:04] <leftyfb> Rojola: let me see if I can find it. It's something I've always run on the commandline, never actually stuck it in a script
[21:05] <Curlyears> man...18.04 takes a LOOONG time to boot up the ISO and install.  Much longer than 16.094 did
[21:05] <Rojola> thank you leftyfb
[21:06] <Curlyears> 16.04
[21:06] <Curlyears> doggone n-key rollover
[21:10] <Curlyears> I should think it would be relatively easy to code a small routine into the keyboard controller that won't allow any input after a character code has been received, until after a small (say 1ms) amount of time has passed without any activity on the data lines of the keyboard array.  That would resolve the n-key rollover problem, so far as i can see
[21:10] <Rojola> leftyfb, gcp -rf /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[21:10] <Rojola> leftyfb, worked for me only as user,  not as root
[21:11] <leftyfb> Rojola: what are you referring to?
[21:11] <Rojola> leftyfb, copying files with a progress bar
[21:11] <Curlyears> of course, that would also preclue buffering of inp ut so that if you type very fast, it won't lose any characters
[21:11] <Rojola> leftyfb, https://stackoverflow.com/a/20221468
[21:12] <paass> cc
[21:12] <leftyfb> Rojola: I've never used gcp. No reason it shouldn't work as root
[21:12] <leftyfb> paass: what can we help you with?
[21:13] <Curlyears> out to reinstall
[21:13] <Rojola> leftyfb, gcp seems to be a little buggy on my system
[21:13] <Rojola> leftyfb, if you find your script, I would be happy
[21:14] <Curlyears> 'if I run into trouble this time, I'll use my lousy win10 notebook to IRC for assistance (my typing on that keyboard is WAY worse....the KB is too damned small)
[21:14] <leftyfb> Rojola: still looking ... going through some backup drives I have in a safe... that's where I usually run it
[21:14] <Rojola> leftyfb, omg! I did not want to cause you that much effort!
[21:14] <Curlyears> leftyfb:  you have a safe?
[21:15] <leftyfb> Rojola: well, since I wrote it a long time ago and just keep re-using it at the last minute every year for the annual backups, I never think to improve it. Now is the time.
[21:15] <leftyfb> Rojola: if I don't find it, i'll just rewrite it
[21:16] <Rojola> leftyfb, I am pretty sure you could make many people happy
[21:17] <leftyfb> Rojola: not really. It's not all that complicated. And as you pointed out, gcp seems to do what most people would want this for
[21:18] <Rojola> leftyfb, gcp throws me a lot of errors!
[21:18] <Rojola> leftyfb, it claims that there were errors copying some files (even though they are binary equal when checking source and destination)
[21:18] <Rojola> leftyfb, and it does not run as root
[21:18] <leftyfb> Rojola: check md5
[21:19] <Rojola> I ran "diff -r"
[21:20] <leftyfb> Rojola: I can't seem to find it in my brief check. I'll have to rewrite it but can't at the moment
[21:20] <Rojola> leftyfb, sure, I understand!  Sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused!
[21:21] <luxio> how do I burn an ISO to a USB device? i'm using 18.04
[21:22] <thePiGrepper> dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdx bs=1M
[21:23] <Rojola> thePiGrepper, he might need to run "mkisofs" first
[21:23] <Rojola> in order to get the ISO
[21:23] <luxio> it says the usb stick is a loop device, it's not /dev/sd_
[21:24] <oerheks> sudo dd if=<ubuntu>iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M; sync
 it says the usb stick is a loop device, it's not /dev/sd_
[21:25] <oerheks>  /dev/sd_ is your typo
[21:25] <luxio> what?
[21:27] <luxio> it says the usb device is /dev/loop21
[21:29] <WoC> luxio, use lsblk
[22:11] <klemax> After upgrading from 17.10 to 18.04, i got white screen problem after suspending. I checked the logs and saw: "radeon - failed testing IB on ring 5 (-110) / fence wait time out"
[22:11] <klemax> how can i fix it?
[22:12] <klemax> have ati drivers changed with 4.15 kernel?
[22:31] <Geo> Hi, I'm trying to find a way that when a user ssh's to the box, it is automatically connected to a running screen session. I've experimented with the ssh -t and screen -d -R commands, but haven't been able to get it to work. Does anyone have working syntax handy?
[22:34] <leftyfb> Geo: put it in your .bashrc on the remote host
[22:34] <Wayward_Vagabond> Are there any tips for finding out what command starts a program based on the package name?
[22:35] <Geo> put what?
[22:35] <Wayward_Vagabond> Trying to start heimdall, but that command only does the terminal version, not the QT front end
[22:35] <Wayward_Vagabond> it's package is heimdall-flash-frontend
[22:36] <leftyfb> Geo: "screen -D -r"
[22:36] <leftyfb> Wayward_Vagabond: sudo dpkg -S heimdall-flash-frontend
[22:37] <oerheks> Wayward_Vagabond, gui and cli answer https://davideddu.org/blog/posts/how-to-flash-a-recovery-image-using-heimdall/
[22:37] <oerheks> heimdall flash --RECOVERY filename.img
[22:38] <Geo> interesting
[22:39] <Geo> definitely works, thanks- curious why the other way didnt work
[22:39] <Geo> but, this does the trick
[22:39] <oerheks> i see this bug report,.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/heimdall-flash/+bug/1757657
[22:41] <oerheks> german friends have a nice wiki https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Heimdall/
[22:51] <Rojola> Question:  I am setting up my computer from new,  so I am not afraid of mixing various repositories.   Where can I find the latest gcp version as deb-file?
[22:51] <Rojola> I am running a very old Ubuntu version
[22:51] <Rojola> and I would like to install gcp from the current repo as my version has a bug
[22:53] <leftyfb> Rojola: what version of ubuntu?
[22:53] <Rojola> leftyfb, 16.04
[22:54] <leftyfb> Rojola: that's not that old. It's what I'm running
[22:54] <Rojola> oh, my bad - it's 16.10
[22:54] <Rojola> the non-long-term-support-one
[22:54] <Rojola> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=854006
[22:54] <Rojola> ^ that's my bug
[22:54] <leftyfb> Rojola: time to upgrade. That is not longer supported
[22:54] <Rojola> yep I know - I am just doing so
[22:56] <oerheks> see their homepage? https://wiki.goffi.org/wiki/Gcp/en
[22:57] <d3l3k_> hello, is it possible to use postfix + dovecot as mail server without dns, only fixed ip address? googled for kinda 2 hours but can't find anything @.@
[22:58] <leftyfb> d3l3k_: what do you mean without DNS?
[22:58] <guiverc> Rojola, i don't know gcp; but a quick look shows its python; so couldn't you use `pip install --upgrade..` to upgrade it?
[22:58] <leftyfb> guiverc: only if it was originally installed by pip and available in pip
[22:58] <Rojola> guiverc, I think it's in the repos of ubuntu
[22:58] <Rojola> but I will try it
[22:58] <Rojola> thank you guiverc
[22:59] <Rojola> thank you also oerheks I downloaded the tar.gz from their homepage now
[23:00] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: let's say i have an ubuntu system installed in a machine with external ip 13.13.13.13, i want to send email from external host to this machine, like someuser@13.13.13.13
[23:01] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: and being able to read emails from that machine locally and remotelly, as an alternative for external email providers
[23:02] <leftyfb> d3l3k_: so that machine will only send emails to and from local users?
[23:06] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: not local users, just remote ones... this machine could be able to receive email from external providers like gmail to a single user, and this user could be able to reply the message. As result, the gmail original sender would receive a response from above email address
[23:06] <qwebirc14113> Hello?
[23:06] <vavkamil> hey
[23:07] <leftyfb> d3l3k_: then you need DNS
[23:07] <Rojola> so, I got gcp to work now.
[23:07] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: i read i could use iRedMail but don't want to configure MX neither buy a DNS
[23:07] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: hmmm, why?
[23:07] <Rojola> What is the best way to compare all files in 2 directories?   If "diff -r" as good as md5sum ?
[23:07] <qwebirc14113> I need help switching to ubuntu os but i have ubuntu allready installed on meh pc but what do i do? ..
[23:08] <leftyfb> d3l3k_: you need to be able to resolve domains like gmail.com. You also need the rest of the internet to be able to resolve a domain to your public ip. Otherwise you'll get blacklisted a lot for running from a residential/dynmaic ip
[23:08] <qwebirc14113> what
[23:09] <vavkamil> I have just download virtualbox extension pack using "sudo apt-get virtualbox-ext-pack" and it will download and install binary from http://download.virtualbox.org - using HTTP this is can be a security issue
[23:09] <leftyfb> Rojola: diff -y --suppress-common-lines <(sort -k2 <(hashdeep -r -b directory1)) <(sort -k2 <(hashdeep -r -b directory2)) # need to install hashdeep
[23:09] <leftyfb> qwebirc14113: install ubuntu
[23:09] <leftyfb> qwebirc14113: step #0 backup your files
[23:09] <Rojola> leftyfb, Thank you!  Why is this better?
[23:11] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: wow, so email providers blacklists emails received from hosts that don't match a set of "rules" ?
[23:11] <leftyfb> d3l3k_: yes
[23:11] <syb0rg> I know a lot of organizations do for sure
[23:13] <oerheks> see spammhause for example
[23:13] <qwebirc14113> well i have ubuntu allready installed on my pc but how do i Start useing it. When i start up lunix it only says "Try ubuntu, Install ubuntu" .etc and stuff like that. :/
[23:14] <syb0rg> remove the  installation media, qwebirc14113 =P
[23:14] <qwebirc14113> its on a usb stick
[23:14] <qwebirc14113> :/
[23:15] <leftyfb> qwebirc14113: that's not installed. That's the installer running from the usb
[23:15] <leftyfb> qwebirc14113: install ubuntu
[23:15] <oerheks> hit install from the stick, you would get the option to updat/replace ubuntu, or something else...
[23:15] <oerheks> voila
[23:16] <qwebirc14113> Well i like to run windows and lunix side by side but.. do i have to Directly run from the usb ?
[23:16] <leftyfb> qwebirc14113: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[23:17] <qwebirc14113> ty
[23:17] <oerheks> if you want to replace your existing ubuntu, yes
[23:17] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: i see... well this could go into a interesting discussion like i don't want to be hostage of mail providers like gmail, neither trust any server i don't have physical access to, and also i don't know how much reliable providers could be as having power over so much confidential data... you see, i don't pay for anything, the service is there for me but my personal information can just be kidnapped for the sake of convenience... s
[23:17] <d3l3k_> orry if this is out of topic of this channel, but i can't separate these two ideias from each other
[23:18] <leftyfb> d3l3k_: so you refuse to pay for services but also don't want to put in the effort to run your own.
[23:18] <brawze1> I'm having issues with an Ubuntu server image I was handed from Google Cloud. Is it possible to wipe all the certificates and start over with the default certificates Ubuntu has?
[23:21] <Rojola> Sorry for having an other question:   How can I rename my harddrive without(!) having any windows computer around?
[23:22] <qwebirc14113> leftyfb what about : https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-ubuntu-on-windows
[23:22] <Rojola> my external harddrive always identifies with the name the producer has given it - and it contains spaces
[23:22] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: not exactly... i'm willing to put in the effort to run it, i just don't exactly know if it's worth of it
[23:23] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#Filesystems
[23:23] <d3l3k_> leftyfb: maybe i'm just being paranoid and don't need to
[23:23] <syb0rg> I'm kinda in the same situation d3l3k_, I want to run a mail server on my VPS but I am afraid if I use that for my email my emails won't get through whatever filters are out there.
[23:24] <Rojola> thank you oerheks
[23:24] <oerheks> sudo ntfslabel /dev/sdg1 my_precious
[23:25] <d3l3k_> yes, it's a complicated situation syb0rg
[23:26] <Rojola> oerheks, the command does not exist
[23:26] <Rojola> oerheks, sudo: mlabel: command not found
[23:26] <Rojola> oerheks, also "apt" does not find it
[23:27] <oerheks> oh are you sure it is fat32 ?
[23:27] <syb0rg> d3l3k_, this seems relevant to both of us https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12282231
[23:27] <oerheks> that page is indeed old, 2013..
[23:27] <syb0rg> Nux's comment, in particular
[23:28] <d3l3k_> syb0rg: the more news i read about personal data getting kidnapped from 'trusted' parties the more afraid i become from using them
[23:28] <d3l3k_> syb0rg: nice, will read it
[23:28] <Rojola> oerheks, I am pretty sure it's FAT32
[23:28] <Rojola> oerheks, but that the command has not been found shouldn't have anything to do with the file system
[23:28] <Rojola> the command does not exist
[23:28] <syb0rg> yeah, every company spies on users now. It is sad that people are so accepting of it, but what can ya do?
[23:29] <oerheks> oh, it is fatlabel now: fatlabel /dev/device NEW_LABEL
[23:31] <qwebirc14113> ima go reinstall ubuntu. cya
[23:32] <qwebirc14113> eh
[23:33] <Rojola> thank you oerheks !
[23:33] <Rojola> oerheks, how can I find out, which device has been mounted to the directory?
[23:33] <Rojola> when I plugged in the device, I opened the GIMP, and clicked on the device
[23:33] <Rojola> that's when it got mounted
[23:35] <syb0rg> lsblk will show you what devices are mounted where, Rojola
[23:36] <Rojola> thank you syb0rg
[23:36] <syb0rg> no problem
[23:37] <Rojola> When I reinstalled Ubuntu, I'd like to have it run from my external HD
[23:37] <Rojola> the user-directories
[23:37] <Rojola> /var/www
[23:37] <Rojola> /usr/local/bin
[23:37] <neoncontrails> Are there any text editors that allow you to iterate from left to right over the documents in a directory (like ImageView does)?
[23:37] <Rojola> and all MySQL databases
[23:37] <Rojola> should I do something while installing?
[23:37] <Rojola> or can I do it later?
[23:38] <syb0rg> makes more sense to do it when installing, Rojola
[23:38] <syb0rg> you need to figure out your partition scheme and partition accordingly
[23:38] <Rojola> syb0rg, can I do it in the installer?
[23:38] <syb0rg> then set mountpoints in the installer
[23:38] <syb0rg> yes, you can Rojola
[23:38] <Rojola> ok thank you!
[23:39] <d3l3k_> syb0rg: for sure, those companies are so powerful that they already monopolyzed certain 'basic' things... maybe something we can do is to make our own services for personal use... btw very helpful and wise Nux's comment
[23:41] <d3l3k_> syb0rg: another thing that comes to my mind against this is to use some kind of decentralized, client-to-client mail
[23:42] <syb0rg> mail already is decentralized d3l3k_, if you have two people with their own mail servers sending messages back and forth you have the situation you just described
[23:42] <syb0rg> the issue is that so many people use services from major companies that the decentralized technology essentially became sort of centralized
[23:43] <BLZbubba> is anyone here good with nvidia optimus?
[23:43] <syb0rg> BLZbubba, it's better to just state your problem
[23:45] <BLZbubba> ok, what does it take to get optimus working on 18.04?  there are many conflicting guides and most of them say that it is completely broken
[23:46] <d3l3k_> syb0rg: you're right... it's more like a political (or per-user interest) centralization than a technological one... maybe just 'luck', like someone made an webapp and it became popular because it's easy to use and stuff...
[23:47] <syb0rg> hmm, I'm not sure BLZbubba, but from a cursory google search it does look problematic
[23:48] <BLZbubba> ya it is a nightmare.  i want a laptop that is nvidia-only
[23:49] <syb0rg> well it should be possible to just use the nvidia card all the time, I think
[23:49] <syb0rg> with a potentially large sacrifice in battery life
[23:50] <syb0rg> you might even have a bios option to disable optimus and always runs nvidia
[23:52] <BLZbubba> i wish, if there are still laptops available that can do that i will buy one tomorrow
[23:52] <oerheks> use the 390/396 from https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[23:53] <BLZbubba> oerheks: ok i'll give it a try
[23:53] <BLZbubba> or should i try getting glvnd to work
[23:54] <oerheks> i hope you checked out the prime tool innvidia settings?
[23:54] <oerheks> that is where you switch
[23:54] <BLZbubba> yeah i set it to nvidia and now it says that the nvidia driver isn't loaded.
[23:56] <BLZbubba> i have tried it a dozen times today, one time it actually showed some VDPAU codec support but i have no idea how