| carlitos | hello all can anyone tell me the command to search for channels (not /list | think its alis or something similar??) | 02:08 |
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| carlitos | "/SQUERY ALIS HELP LIST" isnt working for me on hexchat | 02:12 |
| m4t | /msg alis list *keyword* | 02:13 |
| carlitos | thank you | 02:23 |
| carlitos | cool man worked a treat thanks | 02:23 |
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| cornjulio | any idea why macchanger not working in 18.04 as it did in other releases (I didnt have to ifdown the connection in other versions of ubuntu 17.10 and 16.04) | 02:59 |
| cornjulio | now running 18.04 | 03:00 |
| m4t | idk | 03:03 |
| * m4t blames systemd | 03:03 | |
| m4t | i'm half-kidding | 03:03 |
| m4t | maybe check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MAC_address_spoofing#systemd-networkd, i think it is applicable to ubuntu as well | 03:04 |
| cornjulio | lols had a few issues with 18.04 so ur joke holds true in a few eg's at least; Stremio and my desktop nvidia card with default opensource drivers crashes entire system (old card though) | 03:16 |
| cornjulio | cheers re macchanger | 03:16 |
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| cornjulio | any ideas why this output when running "sudo macchanger -r "interface" on 18.04 Mate | 03:31 |
| cornjulio | https://imgur.com/a/S3Fs9p1 | 03:31 |
| mate|56983 | hello | 06:40 |
| mate|5266 | whats up linux fans :) | 12:00 |
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| leaftype | so I tried changing my graphics driver (to Nvideo 390 metapackage), then the computer wanted to update (installing nvidea opengl/glx/egl/gles and vulkan libraries), and... it failed. And I can't revert back to any other driver. | 17:51 |
| leaftype | It displays "the package sytem is broken", and I tried running the recommended "apt-get install -f" , which does nothing | 17:52 |
| diogenes_ | not apt-get but apt install -f | 17:52 |
| leaftype | I've also tried purging nvidia on tty1, which did nothing, I've tried installing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, which also did nothing | 17:53 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, how much time you already struggle with this? | 17:53 |
| leaftype | apt install -f has the same error "/var/cache/apt/archives/libnvidea-gl-390_390.48-0ubuntu3_i386.deb" and the same thing with amd64.deb | 17:54 |
| leaftype | (on my laptop, typing things out manually) | 17:55 |
| leaftype | diogenes_, about half an hour | 17:55 |
| leaftype | an hour if you count what started this, minecraft not working. btw, I can't uninstall that either. But one problem at a time. | 17:55 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, ok but just a remark, the re-installation process takes less than 15 minutes :) | 17:56 |
| diogenes_ | and all the problems are gone | 17:56 |
| leaftype | reinstalling the the entire os? but... wouldn't I lose... everything? | 17:56 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, what everything? | 17:57 |
| leaftype | steam games is the biggest problem, and re-downloading and installing those would take like a week adn put me over a fake data cap AT&T imposes on dsl | 17:57 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, you can backed everything up on an external drive | 18:00 |
| diogenes_ | and also how much time you're using linux? | 18:00 |
| leaftype | diogenes_, linux is my only os. I have a 2nd internal drive, though I'll need to set it up for... huh... backup doesn't see it for some reason. | 18:01 |
| leaftype | oh, I see why. I have a distro on that | 18:02 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, how much time you using linux? | 18:02 |
| leaftype | leaftype, I use it a few hours a day, everyday. It's my home computer | 18:02 |
| diogenes_ | no i mean how many years of experience? | 18:03 |
| diogenes_ | with linux | 18:03 |
| leaftype | oh, since... 2006 | 18:04 |
| leaftype | I'm not a pro, but that's how long I've been using it | 18:04 |
| leaftype | tried going the IT route once, but its' a bit difficult to study with kids, and linuxacademy is very Red Hat oriented (which gave me quite a few problems on my laptop... lots of googling to make things work) | 18:07 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, in any case, running any operating system without a backup is like balancing on a tiny rope above the ground, so i'd advice you to make a backup (simply copying) the most important files and re-install. | 18:07 |
| leaftype | for steam, shoudl I just copy over the .steam folder? | 18:08 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, i don't use steam so i can't tel you for sure, ask in /j #steam | 18:10 |
| leaftype | other than reinstall, any other ways to go about this? | 18:12 |
| diogenes_ | leaftype, there is a high probability that if you try other methods, you might end up with a broken system that you won't even be able to back up anything so think if it's worth it. | 18:13 |
| leaftype | diogenes_, will those methods teach me the hows and whys of my system? Even once I get a backup, we're still comparing the fix to a complete overwrite of the system | 18:16 |
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| alkisg | leaftype: are you still having the issue? | 19:23 |
| alkisg | leaftype: btw, you may reinstall and keep /home so that you don't lose anything from steam. As soon as you reinstall steam after the OS reinstall, your games would be there if you keep home | 19:25 |
| alkisg | But of course just solving apt issues can be faster :) | 19:25 |
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| leaftype | before I do something stupid - what are the dangers of removing diversions with dpkg-divert ? | 22:53 |
| m4t | leaftype: prolly depends on what it's for | 22:58 |
| m4t | if it's something you added yourself then it's fine | 22:58 |
| m4t | but something setup by an app automatically during install? sounds risky | 22:58 |
| leaftype | m4t, it's a graphics driver issue. I can't install (or uninstall) after switching to nvidia-390. The errors are both dpkig-divert: error: mismatch of package, cuased by nvidia-340 | 23:00 |
| leaftype | typo, meant dpkg | 23:00 |
| m4t | purge nvidia-340? | 23:03 |
| m4t | taht should remove the diversion automatically | 23:03 |
| leaftype | gives me "nvidia-340' is not installed, so not removed | 23:03 |
| m4t | can you pastebin what you're seeing/doing? | 23:04 |
| leaftype | yeah, one sec | 23:04 |
| m4t | also can you pastebin dpkg -l|grep nvidia | 23:05 |
| m4t | and dpkg-divert --list | 23:05 |
| leaftype | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WBv7vzzfXR/ for purge attempt | 23:05 |
| leaftype | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mM4qhDFpWt/ for --fix-broken install attempt | 23:05 |
| leaftype | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhjQsw8H8n/ for dpkg-divert --list | 23:06 |
| m4t | uhm so it's kinda fubar, what i would do is remove all of the nvidia stuff with dpkg and --force-all | 23:06 |
| m4t | then apt-get install nvidia-390 and company | 23:06 |
| m4t | it should be okay to do if you're already in X11 | 23:07 |
| m4t | or if not then it doesn't matter right... | 23:07 |
| leaftype | any idea what's causing it? also, just "dpkg --force-all --remove nvidia* ? | 23:08 |
| m4t | i dunno, something got messed up with dependencies vs installed packages | 23:08 |
| m4t | did you upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 or something? | 23:08 |
| leaftype | and here is the grep you wanted https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2p8Wn9nn9R/ | 23:09 |
| leaftype | if it matters | 23:09 |
| m4t | yeah | 23:09 |
| m4t | uhm | 23:09 |
| m4t | you could try to remove the diversion then apt-get install --reinstall libnvidia-gl-390 | 23:10 |
| m4t | that might be enough to fix it | 23:10 |
| m4t | taking a look at your dpkg -l it seems like there's only an orphaned diversion hanging around breaking things | 23:11 |
| m4t | you can safely purge nvidia-384 nvidia-opencl-icd-340 nvidia-opencl-icd-384 i think afterwards | 23:12 |
| m4t | or better....remove the diversion then apt-get -f install | 23:13 |
| m4t | it should run the preinst script again | 23:13 |
| leaftype | I'm trying to make sure I actually know what I'm typing, there are a lot of parts that I'm learning about for the firs time | 23:14 |
| m4t | yeah one sec. | 23:14 |
| m4t | i could probably write a one liner to remove those diversions | 23:16 |
| leaftype | so this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XVsfTRVVM4/ | 23:17 |
| m4t | yes but for everything from nvidia-340 | 23:18 |
| m4t | what happens if you do dpkg -P --force-all nvidia-340? | 23:18 |
| m4t | that might remove the diversions if the postrm script is still in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*nvidia-340* | 23:18 |
| leaftype | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vhxG4t3PBB/ | 23:20 |
| m4t | yeah figured | 23:20 |
| m4t | OLDIFS="$IFS"; IFS=$'\n'; for diversion in $(dpkg-divert --list|grep nvidia-340|awk '{print $3}'); do echo "$diversion"; sudo dpkg-divert --test --remove $diversion; done; IFS=$OLDIFS | 23:20 |
| leaftype | woh, looks complicated. Copy and paste? | 23:21 |
| m4t | if it seems like the --test command is doing what you want then remove --test | 23:21 |
| m4t | yes | 23:21 |
| m4t | its just --test. it won't do anything... | 23:21 |
| m4t | IFS=$'\n' is just so bash splits by newline and not by space character | 23:21 |
| leaftype | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C7ZpkHcQyV/ | 23:22 |
| m4t | yes i would try that then sudo apt-get -f install | 23:22 |
| m4t | remove --test from the dpkg-divert part of it | 23:22 |
| m4t | but one sec | 23:23 |
| leaftype | already goin... | 23:23 |
| m4t | ah w/e | 23:23 |
| m4t | :) | 23:23 |
| leaftype | lol, should be fun | 23:23 |
| m4t | it wont make things worse | 23:23 |
| leaftype | it's doing more thant was :) | 23:23 |
| m4t | cool | 23:24 |
| leaftype | this was a problem some other people had on askubuntu (was looking around for awhile), so this could be really useful | 23:24 |
| leaftype | hey, no errors | 23:24 |
| m4t | cool | 23:25 |
| m4t | dpkg-divert --list might not show anything for nvidia now...it doesn't on my system | 23:25 |
| m4t | using 18.04/nvidia-390 but not from the ppa | 23:26 |
| leaftype | would that script for yup, that's what I was using | 23:26 |
| leaftype | or trying to | 23:26 |
| m4t | just curious, if you're on 18.04 why are you using ppa version of 390 instead of the bundled one in core distro? | 23:27 |
| m4t | just want to follow bleeding edge? | 23:27 |
| leaftype | This all started with me going to "additional drivers" and clicking on the one with the highest number - whcih was 390 | 23:28 |
| m4t | hmm | 23:28 |
| m4t | it automatically added the ppa?! | 23:29 |
| leaftype | I tried doing the ppa version at some point to try to fix it, but the error was the same thing | 23:29 |
| m4t | oh | 23:29 |
| m4t | gotcha. | 23:29 |
| leaftype | it's been several hours of googling and asking and reading man pages | 23:29 |
| m4t | you might be able to ppa-purge and just roll back to the distro version of -390 | 23:29 |
| m4t | less room for breakage in the future i think.. | 23:29 |
| * m4t has used that ppa in the past | 23:30 | |
| leaftype | earlier the only option I was given was "backup and reinstall", which is a bit more of a scorched earth tactic than I wanted | 23:31 |
| leaftype | so... ppa -purge? | 23:31 |
| m4t | ppa-purge is a separate app, dunno if it's installed by default | 23:32 |
| leaftype | nope | 23:32 |
| m4t | it just removes the specified ppa and packages from it, then rolls it back to distro | 23:32 |
| leaftype | your script, it would work for anyone that has the problem with this, right? : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1036629/broken-dependencies-after-trying-to-uninstall-nvidia-390 | 23:34 |
| m4t | maybe | 23:34 |
| m4t | thats slightly different...trying to uninstall 390 vs install 390 | 23:35 |
| m4t | i.e. not one size fits all | 23:35 |
| leaftype | I tried to do that at some point as well, I also tried to force naovoau (or however you spell it) | 23:36 |
| leaftype | and you know what started it all? trying to run minecraft for my kid. Eventually it was just "it works on the other computer, go play on that one" | 23:36 |
| leaftype | :) | 23:37 |
| m4t | lol | 23:37 |
| m4t | let's blame it on minecraft being owned by microsoft | 23:37 |
| leaftype | I'm sure tha'ts what it is | 23:37 |
| m4t | https://www.preining.info/blog/2018/06/microsofts-failed-attempt-on-debian-packaging/ | 23:37 |
| leaftype | I'd put $10 a month on patreon for minetest if someone wante dto publish it | 23:38 |
| leaftype | polish* | 23:38 |
| leaftype | oh, tha'ts funny :) | 23:38 |
| leaftype | alright, now going back to additional drivers to see if... | 23:41 |
| leaftype | and it crashes | 23:41 |
| leaftype | try 2 - here we go | 23:42 |
| leaftype | says I'm on metapackage for nvidia-driver-390 (open source) | 23:43 |
| leaftype | restarting, see if that works | 23:43 |
| leaftype | and it works, thank you m4t | 23:49 |
| m4t | cool np | 23:49 |
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