[02:08] hello all can anyone tell me the command to search for channels (not /list | think its alis or something similar??) [02:12] "/SQUERY ALIS HELP LIST" isnt working for me on hexchat [02:13] /msg alis list *keyword* [02:23] thank you [02:23] cool man worked a treat thanks === carlitos_ is now known as cornjulio [02:59] any idea why macchanger not working in 18.04 as it did in other releases (I didnt have to ifdown the connection in other versions of ubuntu 17.10 and 16.04) [03:00] now running 18.04 [03:03] idk [03:03] * m4t blames systemd [03:03] i'm half-kidding [03:04] maybe check https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MAC_address_spoofing#systemd-networkd, i think it is applicable to ubuntu as well [03:16] lols had a few issues with 18.04 so ur joke holds true in a few eg's at least; Stremio and my desktop nvidia card with default opensource drivers crashes entire system (old card though) [03:16] cheers re macchanger === ErichEickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer === Eickmeyer is now known as Erich === Erich is now known as Eickmeyer [03:31] any ideas why this output when running "sudo macchanger -r "interface" on 18.04 Mate [03:31] https://imgur.com/a/S3Fs9p1 [06:40] hello [12:00] whats up linux fans :) === mate|5266 is now known as luckyboy === led_ir23 is now known as led_ir22 === pavlushka is now known as Guest98966 === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [17:51] so I tried changing my graphics driver (to Nvideo 390 metapackage), then the computer wanted to update (installing nvidea opengl/glx/egl/gles and vulkan libraries), and... it failed. And I can't revert back to any other driver. [17:52] It displays "the package sytem is broken", and I tried running the recommended "apt-get install -f" , which does nothing [17:52] not apt-get but apt install -f [17:53] I've also tried purging nvidia on tty1, which did nothing, I've tried installing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, which also did nothing [17:53] leaftype, how much time you already struggle with this? [17:54] apt install -f has the same error "/var/cache/apt/archives/libnvidea-gl-390_390.48-0ubuntu3_i386.deb" and the same thing with amd64.deb [17:55] (on my laptop, typing things out manually) [17:55] diogenes_, about half an hour [17:55] an hour if you count what started this, minecraft not working. btw, I can't uninstall that either. But one problem at a time. [17:56] leaftype, ok but just a remark, the re-installation process takes less than 15 minutes :) [17:56] and all the problems are gone [17:56] reinstalling the the entire os? but... wouldn't I lose... everything? [17:57] leaftype, what everything? [17:57] steam games is the biggest problem, and re-downloading and installing those would take like a week adn put me over a fake data cap AT&T imposes on dsl [18:00] leaftype, you can backed everything up on an external drive [18:00] and also how much time you're using linux? [18:01] diogenes_, linux is my only os. I have a 2nd internal drive, though I'll need to set it up for... huh... backup doesn't see it for some reason. [18:02] oh, I see why. I have a distro on that [18:02] leaftype, how much time you using linux? [18:02] leaftype, I use it a few hours a day, everyday. It's my home computer [18:03] no i mean how many years of experience? [18:03] with linux [18:04] oh, since... 2006 [18:04] I'm not a pro, but that's how long I've been using it [18:07] tried going the IT route once, but its' a bit difficult to study with kids, and linuxacademy is very Red Hat oriented (which gave me quite a few problems on my laptop... lots of googling to make things work) [18:07] leaftype, in any case, running any operating system without a backup is like balancing on a tiny rope above the ground, so i'd advice you to make a backup (simply copying) the most important files and re-install. [18:08] for steam, shoudl I just copy over the .steam folder? [18:10] leaftype, i don't use steam so i can't tel you for sure, ask in /j #steam [18:12] other than reinstall, any other ways to go about this? [18:13] leaftype, there is a high probability that if you try other methods, you might end up with a broken system that you won't even be able to back up anything so think if it's worth it. [18:16] diogenes_, will those methods teach me the hows and whys of my system? Even once I get a backup, we're still comparing the fix to a complete overwrite of the system === Darkhero_ is now known as Darkhero [19:23] leaftype: are you still having the issue? [19:25] leaftype: btw, you may reinstall and keep /home so that you don't lose anything from steam. As soon as you reinstall steam after the OS reinstall, your games would be there if you keep home [19:25] But of course just solving apt issues can be faster :) === DerRaiden is now known as DerRaiden`afk [22:53] before I do something stupid - what are the dangers of removing diversions with dpkg-divert ? [22:58] leaftype: prolly depends on what it's for [22:58] if it's something you added yourself then it's fine [22:58] but something setup by an app automatically during install? sounds risky [23:00] m4t, it's a graphics driver issue. I can't install (or uninstall) after switching to nvidia-390. The errors are both dpkig-divert: error: mismatch of package, cuased by nvidia-340 [23:00] typo, meant dpkg [23:03] purge nvidia-340? [23:03] taht should remove the diversion automatically [23:03] gives me "nvidia-340' is not installed, so not removed [23:04] can you pastebin what you're seeing/doing? [23:04] yeah, one sec [23:05] also can you pastebin dpkg -l|grep nvidia [23:05] and dpkg-divert --list [23:05] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WBv7vzzfXR/ for purge attempt [23:05] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mM4qhDFpWt/ for --fix-broken install attempt [23:06] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhjQsw8H8n/ for dpkg-divert --list [23:06] uhm so it's kinda fubar, what i would do is remove all of the nvidia stuff with dpkg and --force-all [23:06] then apt-get install nvidia-390 and company [23:07] it should be okay to do if you're already in X11 [23:07] or if not then it doesn't matter right... [23:08] any idea what's causing it? also, just "dpkg --force-all --remove nvidia* ? [23:08] i dunno, something got messed up with dependencies vs installed packages [23:08] did you upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 or something? [23:09] and here is the grep you wanted https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2p8Wn9nn9R/ [23:09] if it matters [23:09] yeah [23:09] uhm [23:10] you could try to remove the diversion then apt-get install --reinstall libnvidia-gl-390 [23:10] that might be enough to fix it [23:11] taking a look at your dpkg -l it seems like there's only an orphaned diversion hanging around breaking things [23:12] you can safely purge nvidia-384 nvidia-opencl-icd-340 nvidia-opencl-icd-384 i think afterwards [23:13] or better....remove the diversion then apt-get -f install [23:13] it should run the preinst script again [23:14] I'm trying to make sure I actually know what I'm typing, there are a lot of parts that I'm learning about for the firs time [23:14] yeah one sec. [23:16] i could probably write a one liner to remove those diversions [23:17] so this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XVsfTRVVM4/ [23:18] yes but for everything from nvidia-340 [23:18] what happens if you do dpkg -P --force-all nvidia-340? [23:18] that might remove the diversions if the postrm script is still in /var/lib/dpkg/info/*nvidia-340* [23:20] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vhxG4t3PBB/ [23:20] yeah figured [23:20] OLDIFS="$IFS"; IFS=$'\n'; for diversion in $(dpkg-divert --list|grep nvidia-340|awk '{print $3}'); do echo "$diversion"; sudo dpkg-divert --test --remove $diversion; done; IFS=$OLDIFS [23:21] woh, looks complicated. Copy and paste? [23:21] if it seems like the --test command is doing what you want then remove --test [23:21] yes [23:21] its just --test. it won't do anything... [23:21] IFS=$'\n' is just so bash splits by newline and not by space character [23:22] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C7ZpkHcQyV/ [23:22] yes i would try that then sudo apt-get -f install [23:22] remove --test from the dpkg-divert part of it [23:23] but one sec [23:23] already goin... [23:23] ah w/e [23:23] :) [23:23] lol, should be fun [23:23] it wont make things worse [23:23] it's doing more thant was :) [23:24] cool [23:24] this was a problem some other people had on askubuntu (was looking around for awhile), so this could be really useful [23:24] hey, no errors [23:25] cool [23:25] dpkg-divert --list might not show anything for nvidia now...it doesn't on my system [23:26] using 18.04/nvidia-390 but not from the ppa [23:26] would that script for yup, that's what I was using [23:26] or trying to [23:27] just curious, if you're on 18.04 why are you using ppa version of 390 instead of the bundled one in core distro? [23:27] just want to follow bleeding edge? [23:28] This all started with me going to "additional drivers" and clicking on the one with the highest number - whcih was 390 [23:28] hmm [23:29] it automatically added the ppa?! [23:29] I tried doing the ppa version at some point to try to fix it, but the error was the same thing [23:29] oh [23:29] gotcha. [23:29] it's been several hours of googling and asking and reading man pages [23:29] you might be able to ppa-purge and just roll back to the distro version of -390 [23:29] less room for breakage in the future i think.. [23:30] * m4t has used that ppa in the past [23:31] earlier the only option I was given was "backup and reinstall", which is a bit more of a scorched earth tactic than I wanted [23:31] so... ppa -purge? [23:32] ppa-purge is a separate app, dunno if it's installed by default [23:32] nope [23:32] it just removes the specified ppa and packages from it, then rolls it back to distro [23:34] your script, it would work for anyone that has the problem with this, right? : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1036629/broken-dependencies-after-trying-to-uninstall-nvidia-390 [23:34] maybe [23:35] thats slightly different...trying to uninstall 390 vs install 390 [23:35] i.e. not one size fits all [23:36] I tried to do that at some point as well, I also tried to force naovoau (or however you spell it) [23:36] and you know what started it all? trying to run minecraft for my kid. Eventually it was just "it works on the other computer, go play on that one" [23:37] :) [23:37] lol [23:37] let's blame it on minecraft being owned by microsoft [23:37] I'm sure tha'ts what it is [23:37] https://www.preining.info/blog/2018/06/microsofts-failed-attempt-on-debian-packaging/ [23:38] I'd put $10 a month on patreon for minetest if someone wante dto publish it [23:38] polish* [23:38] oh, tha'ts funny :) [23:41] alright, now going back to additional drivers to see if... [23:41] and it crashes [23:42] try 2 - here we go [23:43] says I'm on metapackage for nvidia-driver-390 (open source) [23:43] restarting, see if that works [23:49] and it works, thank you m4t [23:49] cool np