[03:19] pauloknoxx was added by: pauloknoxx [03:19] henlo guyse [03:43] Aleksey_Peresvet was added by: Aleksey_Peresvet [03:46] Hello. Sorry for my english. Can i port ubuntu on my "redmi note 4( mtk 6797) ram 3gb, flash memory 32gb"? [04:13] Hello, as long as you have kernel, device tree and vendor tree (the last one *could* be on your phone's vendor partition it should be good [04:14] But keep in mind that mtk chipsets can be tricky when it comes to sources [04:42] hey @Javacookies ... just curious. You reported a while ago the following: … mycroft worked on my Nexus 5! awesome! 😁 … I said … "Hey Mycroft. Please reboot my phone" … boom! it worked! … Was that actually true and if so do you have any way to prove it's working? :) Someone said they didn't believe me but when I re-read y [04:42] our comment it seems like 'dark developer humour'. Please confirm. Thanks! :) [04:45] LOL it's true that it did rebooted after I said that command....but that happens with whatever command, just say "Hey Mycroft" [04:45] sorry for the confusion 😁 [04:46] if that still isn't clear, Mycroft crashes Nexus 5 and it doesn't work yet 😉 [05:13] Hmm.so... I guess we cant say 'progress is happening? ;) [06:39] pssh. my fp2 doesn't even need mycroft for that😎 [06:39] i just look at it sternly and there it goes [07:06] @pauloknoxx, Hi Paulo, welcome!! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started !! … There's a UBports group in Portuguese too [07:11] @Aleksey_Peresvet you also have the docs about porting here https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html [07:29] Telegraph group popularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点 [07:29] ularity growth, if there is a need to contact@tg400(https://t.me/tglaren) 全球telegram群拉人需要加微信（13185950468）： 1、telegram专业拉人建群维护群 2、【无邀请记录，可实时在线】 3、可指定群拉人【不暴力拉人】 4、币圈真人【10万人4小时】 5、社群建立维护，代运营服务 6、各种需求机器人开发服务 7、【交易所上币投票服务】 8、【EOS超级节点投票服务】提 [07:58] @YougoChats, that's more than AI … that's reading minds LOL [08:18] Thanks for the answers, unfortunately my level of understanding of the porting process is not deep enough, but the answer is more positive than negative, and this gives some hope. [08:20] As long as you speak 🇬🇧 and have the ability to use a search engine and ask people eventually you'll get there [08:21] @Aleksey_Peresvet, There are some guys with porting experience in the Russian group, maybe they can point you in the right direction [08:21] But assuming you're Russian or from somewhere around 4pda.ru might be a good source [08:21] mtk 6797 is Gemini SoC [08:21] but do you have kernel source for it at all? [08:22] [Edit] mtk6797 is same SoC as Gemini [08:24] Ок [08:24] @VeryOriginalUsername, Is that really a legit site related to porting? [08:24] Have you heard jokes about Russian hackers? [08:25] 4pda forum is kinda the place for that [maybe not true hackers but it's a slavic xda] [08:27] perhaps 4pda is not quite a legitimate site from your point of view). but if you do not download content, then there really can be a lot of useful information about any practically mobile device. I mean the forum. [08:28] I don't know Russian, so I'll ask to someone I trust :) … @vanyasem is 4pda a legit site for porting or I should consider a link to that site like OT here? [08:30] [Edit] I don't know Russian, so I'll ask to someone I trust :) … @vanyasem is 4pda a legit site for porting or should I consider a link to that site like OT here? [08:48] KabzFx was added by: KabzFx [08:49] Ubuntu touch on Nokia 6? [08:51] @KabzFx, List of supported devices https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [08:52] @advocatux, Thanks. Let me have a look. [08:55] Sure, yw [09:12] @pauloknoxx, Henlo 😂 to read about UBports check this link. We also have a group in Portuguese … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [09:13] @VeryOriginalUsername, For tricky, read almost impossible … [09:15] @Javacookies, Ah good. It sounded rather creepy that Mycroft should have boot access! [12:07] @advocatux, Yes. My English speaking friends always ask me to translate some of their questions to Russian, so that they can ask for help on 4pda [12:07] @advocatux, [Edit] Yes, it's a legit site for porting. My English speaking friends always ask me to translate some of their questions to Russian, so that they can ask for help on 4pda [12:25] @advocatux, thank you [12:28] does Ubuntu Touch work on Moto g (the first generation), I've heard that it works on moto g2? [12:28] [Edit] does Ubuntu Touch work on Moto g (the first generation), I've heard that it works on moto g2 [12:46] just to be sure, nexus 5 has it's working stable image yep? [12:46] @thepeter, yes [12:47] @mymike00, thanks, I am on my way to the shop then [13:04] @thepeter, Vivid [13:26] @malditobastardo, I am on it :) [13:38] (Video, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/G3ZO2OaS.mp4 [13:38] Am I missing something? [13:38] @thepeter, It is so stable and easy to use, I gave my Dad an ubuntu touch phone. [13:39] @VeryOriginalUsername, Keep the phone in that state, just close down the installer and restart the installer. [13:40] @VeryOriginalUsername, [Edit] Keep the phone in that state, just close down the installer and restart the installer, select the image, etc. [13:40] Nothing [13:40] On windows toi [13:40] [Edit] On windows too [13:40] @VeryOriginalUsername, What kind of phone? [13:41] N5 [13:41] @VeryOriginalUsername, I recommend posting and asking here: https://t.me/WelcomePlus … They can provide support for installing [13:42] strange - I have the same situation ... I am in bootloader but nothing este happends [13:43] @thepeter, I recommend joining the group https://t.me/WelcomePlus … They provide installer support. 😊 [13:43] @AlexanderPlaza, just went there :D [13:43] you probably need to run installer with sudo for some reason. also make sure you have the fastboot and adb android tools installed [13:44] @dohbee, on windows? yep and it can't find adb which I just freshly reinstalled [13:45] yes, on windows. you might need to run it with administrator privs [13:46] still didn't find adb when running it as admin [13:47] ok, i'm not sure. as AP suggested, please go to WelcomePlus group for further help :) [13:47] @dohbee, thx I am there :) [14:59] Can someone ping me? i'm testing notifacations on xenial :) [15:00] @mariogrip Does it work? :) [15:00] @zubozrout, YEY :D it worked!! [15:00] hurray! [15:01] and its merged! [15:02] That was fast 😂 [15:10] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/416bm003.mp4 [15:22] Sweet this works again :D [15:24] Ubports installer 0.1.7 appimage works for me. Maybe the windows version may also work for those trying to install Ubuntu touch :) [15:48] woah, hammerhead battery drain is *really* bad [15:48] 6% went away with screen off in 30 mins [15:51] I have a couple of videos shot in .MOV format showing a comparison between OPO (vivid) and Pro 5 (xenial), but I need to convert and/or compress them before posting anywhere. I installed kdenlive, openshot, shotcut and flowblade as well as transmageddon on my Ubuntu 16.04 rig, but I can't get any of them to run properly. Most of [15:51] them won't even launch. … Any ideas? [15:52] @TomasOqvist, I know this is off topic. But I use blender for my video editing [15:53] @AlexanderPlaza, 👍 [15:54] @TomasOqvist, [Edit] I know this is off topic. But I use blender for my video editing - If you go on youtube and search "Blender - Video editing" You will find great tutorials. [16:02] Should RNDIS work with Xenial? Trying to get share network phone>computer by usb.. [16:10] Any advice where is the SMS database stored? [16:10] gues /home/phablet/.local ... but where? [16:10] [Edit] guess /home/phablet/.local ... but where? [16:11] `.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite` [16:12] (I already told you in the Install group 😜) [16:13] @advocatux, yep I know I§ve owerwritten that one together with .local/evolution/system/contacts.db and contact I have but messages didn't show up [16:13] @advocatux, [Edit] yep I know I§ve owerwritten that one together with .local/evolution/system/contacts.db and contacts I have but messages didn't show up [16:15] @advocatux, [Edit] yep I know I've owerwritten that one together with .local/evolution/system/contacts.db and contacts I have but messages didn't show up [16:30] @pauloknoxx, You are right about Moto G2 Titan. Not for other Moto devices at the moment though [16:32] @TomasOqvist, VLC? [16:33] @Stereofont, oh ok then [16:35] @pauloknoxx, Porting might be possible but a lot of effort and the benefit of that device would have to be evaluated [16:35] @Stereofont, Testing vlc now, thanks. [16:48] how to remove app data for browser? It is crashing all the time after 2 seconds on 15.04 [16:50] @Stereofont, file still clocks in at 37MB, need more compression. [16:50] you can upload to youtube maybe? [16:51] @Stereofont, I see, I'm not a developer or someting but I see that is not easy [16:52] but would be easier to me if I buy a Meizu to install Ubuntu 😆 [16:53] or other compatible device [16:56] @dotevo, NewBrowser doesn't work on vivid [16:56] it is browser from Rom package, not from openstore [16:57] @TomasOqvist, There are cloud services that do that? [16:57] was working fine but it looks like one website couse the crash and there is crash loop [16:58] @pauloknoxx, Even if you had the skills it would be 6 months or more of hard work, so I think you are right [16:59] @dotevo, I don't understand about ROM package? [16:59] Here you go: … https://youtu.be/c3-Y397v5XE … https://youtu.be/_USe3kKhd74 [16:59] I mean from the image with ut 15.04 [17:00] @dotevo, Sounds like it would be better to ask in the porting group [17:01] @Stereofont, the question is not about porting [17:02] @Stereofont, yeah, I'd love to install it on my Redmi 2 pro, may I ask 2 questions? we have full access to shell, like on PC? and when installing apps, do they go to the SD card directly, or internal space? [17:03] @dotevo, the cache should be under `~/.cache/webbrowser-app/` i think if it's the primary browser you mean. maybe somehwere under `~/.local/share/webbrowser-app/` instead, or `~/.config/webbrowser-app/` but you probably don't want to just rm thos directories entirely (as doing so will also delete all history/cookies/saved data/ [17:03] etc for the browser) [17:03] @pauloknoxx, apps are installed only on internal storage at the moment, and there is a terminal, but no it's not exactly like on a traditional linux distro on a PC [17:05] I wll remove :) it is good to have webbrowser [17:12] @dohbee, okay :) , I hope apps might be installed on SD storage and I wish the system stay just on internal space... I understand the concern of developers of avoiding that, however it'd be great if there's an option. [17:13] maybe in future, but currently it would be quite difficult to achieve that i think [17:19] @TomasOqvist, Is it caused by hardware difference or by better software adjustments? [17:21] @unknown, i guess mostly hardware. especially if it's the 4GB pro 5 [17:37] @dohbee, Okay - thank you :-) [17:38] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/lWwgB4bK.png [17:39] I would gguessed a bit of both. I think OPO has the same amount of RAM. [17:39] *guessed [17:40] but op1 is quad core 32-bit cpu, and pro5 is octa core 64-bit [17:41] so the latter is going to be quite a bit faster at runnig 32-bit code [17:42] @TomasOqvist, Nice!! This really shows the improvments qt5.9 and xenial gives :D [17:42] @TomasOqvist, How did you get that theme? [17:42] @amolith, Installing 16.04 [17:43] @UniversalSuperBox, Oh 😅 [17:43] Yes, the overall hw is better, but I don't recall my Pro 5 being this snappy using vivid. I have had it since Meizu released the Ubuntu Edition, always running some version of UT. [17:43] @unknown, I would say mostly software, since the pro5 is running in armhf so even tough it has more power, it cannot benefit from them. the cpu on bacon has a faster clock speed [17:44] clock speed can be really misleading [17:44] when we get arm64 to work correctly pro5 will show its arms [17:44] :) [17:45] @mariogrip, it will probably be a little slower :) [17:45] haha i dont think so, how the arm cpu's are built backwards compat is always a bit slower, even newer cpu des not even have 32compat [17:46] the userspace apps are not heavily optimized such that the performance will really be much different [17:46] @mariogrip, Interesting, I kind of had that feeling. A long time ago since I had a phone that felt as fast as this one. [17:46] @dohbee, true that, probobly not much. but a little :) [17:46] @mariogrip, all 64 ... ba dumm tsss [17:47] well, xenial feels a lot slower on my nexus phones, than vivid did [17:47] Part of that feeling is probably the scrolling momentum problem [17:47] @TomasOqvist, also take a note in the new power saving things, it should last alot longer then vivid now :) now we use the wakelocks for real [17:47] and even on vivid, my nexus 5 feels slower than it did ~2 years ago [17:47] IMO my N4 is faster with Xenial than it was with Vivid.. [17:47] @UniversalSuperBox, exactly what i wanted to say :) [17:48] @mariogrip, Except on the Nexus 5 [17:48] @UniversalSuperBox, nah, even ignoring the scrolling issue, there are other things that feel way slower, like the lock screen stuff [17:48] @UniversalSuperBox, true [17:49] @dohbee, i just installed vivid on nexus 5 and in feel slower as bq e5 was on original image (starting apps for veru long time) [17:50] @dohbee, [Edit] i just installed vivid on nexus 5 and in feel slower than bq e5 was on original image (starting apps for veru long time) [17:50] @dohbee, [Edit] i just installed vivid on nexus 5 and in feel slower than bq e5 was on original image (starting apps for very long time) [17:54] @dohbee, humm, the human brain will rember the good things best, so you might not quite remember it was as slow haha :P [17:54] @mariogrip, oh i didn't say it wasn't slow before. just that it's slower now :) [17:54] @mariogrip, So they offically shipped a armhf phone with software not supporting arm64? [17:55] @unknown, yes, we never got the arm64 build finished before the project was canceled [17:55] so kernel is arm64, but userspace is armhf [17:55] Okay - interesting [17:56] @dohbee, (hes talking about canonical) [17:56] this is very similar to the first Android devices on arm64 anyway [17:56] we will contiue the arm64 trend :) [17:56] and those performed fine - so it's not a very big problem [17:56] arm64 + xenial + snaps was all happening at the same time [17:56] but then, well, you know what happened [17:56] @mariogrip, Of course 👍 [17:57] @mariogrip, excellent 👍 [18:01] @mariogrip, Yes, battery performance is actually quite good and miles better than my OPO. still over 50% after 12 hours, while my OPO would have gone dead by now. [18:09] Wish I could buy the Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition in Canada. [18:11] @AlexanderPlaza, You can get it from Canada Computers I think [18:11] There are 3 available from China here: … https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-4gbRAM-Unlocked-DualSIM-NFC-FastCharge-support-Ubuntu-/272196027342?nav=SEARCH … It is tempting to buy the whole bunch, but deliveries can be pretty long and customs can be troublesome... [18:12] @lastdon82, I just checked. Nope [18:12] (But thanks, never heard of them!) [18:13] @TomasOqvist, Ohhhhhhh ❤️ But you are right. customs and shipping (assuming it makes it here in one piece) [18:13] Careful, putting Ubuntu on the Android edition isn't easy [18:14] @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for the heads up. If I could I would directly buy the Ubuntu edition. Just so I vote with my wallet "hey I want an Ubuntu Phone" [18:14] (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/0aCmWlmc.png [18:14] Pro 5 camera - check! [18:15] @UniversalSuperBox, yeah, it's a bit hard, make sure if you buy it dont upgrade to 6.0 becuse it might be locked. there is a loophole you can take on any version under 6.0 [18:15] (android 6.0 that is) [18:15] it is posseble https://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android [18:16] if you buy the global version it's easier, but the china version is a bit harder (since its more locked( [18:16] [Edit] if you buy the global version it's easier, but the china version is a bit harder (since its more locked) [18:20] (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/5UXCAWw0.png [18:20] And GPS too! [18:22] Wooo :D [18:22] I smell an RC release tomarrow [18:22] :) [18:22] (planned) [18:23] (waiting) [18:23] Amazing 🤩 [18:26] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/mH81FCEs.mp4 [18:31] @mariogrip, Thanks! [18:33] @TomasOqvist, is this a good comparison? they are different devices...are they really on par with each other in terms of perfomance? [18:34] no taking anything away from xenial 😁 actually it also feel faster and smoother on my Nexus 5 with xenial [18:37] @Javacookies, I am not the expert, but @mariogrip believes it has mostly to do with software, and I must say that my Pro 5 never felt faster! [18:37] What did 437 change? [18:38] Or maybe there's a changelog [18:40]