[03:19] <ubptgbot> pauloknoxx was added by: pauloknoxx
 henlo guyse
[03:43] <ubptgbot> Aleksey_Peresvet was added by: Aleksey_Peresvet
 Hello. Sorry for my english. Can i port ubuntu on my "redmi note 4( mtk 6797) ram 3gb, flash memory 32gb"?
 Hello, as long as you have kernel, device tree and vendor tree (the last one *could* be on your phone's vendor partition it should be good
 But keep in mind that mtk chipsets can be tricky when it comes to sources
 hey @Javacookies ... just curious.  You reported a while ago the following: … mycroft worked on my Nexus 5! awesome! 😁  … I said … "Hey Mycroft. Please reboot my phone" … boom! it worked! … Was that actually true and if so do you have any way to prove it's working?  :)  Someone said they didn't believe me but when I re-read y
[04:42] <ubptgbot> our comment it seems like 'dark developer humour'.  Please confirm.  Thanks! :)
 LOL it's true that it did rebooted after I said that command....but that happens with whatever command, just say "Hey Mycroft"
 sorry for the confusion 😁
 if that still isn't clear, Mycroft crashes Nexus 5 and it doesn't work yet 😉
 Hmm.so... I guess we cant say 'progress is happening? ;)
 pssh. my fp2 doesn't even need mycroft for that😎
 i just look at it sternly and there it goes
 @pauloknoxx, Hi Paulo, welcome!! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started !! … There's a UBports group in Portuguese too
 @Aleksey_Peresvet you also have the docs about porting here https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
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 @YougoChats, that's more than AI … that's reading minds LOL
 Thanks for the answers, unfortunately my level of understanding of the porting process is not deep enough, but the answer is more positive than negative, and this gives some hope.
 As long as you speak 🇬🇧 and have the ability to use a search engine and ask people eventually you'll get there
 @Aleksey_Peresvet, There are some guys with porting experience in the Russian group, maybe they can point you in the right direction
 But assuming you're Russian or from somewhere around 4pda.ru might be a good source
 mtk 6797 is Gemini SoC
 but do you have kernel source for it at all?
 [Edit] mtk6797 is same SoC as Gemini
 Ок
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Is that really a legit site related to porting?
 Have you heard jokes about Russian hackers?
 4pda forum is kinda the place for that [maybe not true hackers but it's a slavic xda]
 perhaps 4pda is not quite a legitimate site from your point of view). but if you do not download content, then there really can be a lot of useful information about any practically mobile device. I mean the forum.
 I don't know Russian, so I'll ask to someone I trust :) … @vanyasem is 4pda a legit site for porting or I should consider a link to that site like OT here?
 [Edit] I don't know Russian, so I'll ask to someone I trust :) … @vanyasem is 4pda a legit site for porting or should I consider a link to that site like OT here?
[08:48] <ubptgbot> KabzFx was added by: KabzFx
 Ubuntu touch on Nokia 6?
 @KabzFx, List of supported devices https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
 @advocatux, Thanks. Let me have a look.
 Sure, yw
 @pauloknoxx, Henlo 😂 to read about UBports check this link. We also have a group in Portuguese … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @VeryOriginalUsername, For tricky, read almost impossible …
 @Javacookies, Ah good. It sounded rather creepy that Mycroft should have boot access!
 @advocatux, Yes. My English speaking friends always ask me to translate some of their questions to Russian, so that they can ask for help on 4pda
 @advocatux, [Edit] Yes, it's a legit site for porting. My English speaking friends always ask me to translate some of their questions to Russian, so that they can ask for help on 4pda
 @advocatux, thank you
 does Ubuntu Touch work on Moto g (the first generation), I've heard that it works on moto g2?
 [Edit] does Ubuntu Touch work on Moto g (the first generation), I've heard that it works on moto g2
 just to be sure, nexus 5 has it's working stable image yep?
 @thepeter, yes
 @mymike00, thanks, I am on my way to the shop then
 @thepeter, Vivid
 @malditobastardo, I am on it :)
 (Video, 1s) https://irc.ubports.com/G3ZO2OaS.mp4
 Am I missing something?
 @thepeter, It is so stable and easy to use, I gave my Dad an ubuntu touch phone.
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Keep the phone in that state, just close down the installer and restart the installer.
 @VeryOriginalUsername, [Edit] Keep the phone in that state, just close down the installer and restart the installer, select the image, etc.
 Nothing
 On windows toi
 [Edit] On windows too
 @VeryOriginalUsername, What kind of phone?
 N5
 @VeryOriginalUsername, I recommend posting and asking here: https://t.me/WelcomePlus … They can provide support for installing
 strange - I have the same situation ... I am in bootloader but nothing este happends
 @thepeter, I recommend joining the group https://t.me/WelcomePlus … They provide installer support. 😊
 @AlexanderPlaza, just went there :D
 you probably need to run installer with sudo for some reason. also make sure you have the fastboot and adb android tools installed
 @dohbee, on windows? yep and it can't find adb which I just freshly reinstalled
 yes, on windows. you might need to run it with administrator privs
 still didn't find adb when running it as admin
 ok, i'm not sure. as AP suggested, please go to WelcomePlus group for further help :)
 @dohbee, thx I am there :)
 Can someone ping me? i'm testing notifacations on xenial :)
 @mariogrip Does it work? :)
 @zubozrout, YEY :D it worked!!
 hurray!
 and its merged!
 That was fast 😂
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/416bm003.mp4
 Sweet this works again :D
 Ubports installer 0.1.7 appimage works for me. Maybe the windows version may also work for those trying to install Ubuntu touch :)
 woah, hammerhead battery drain is *really* bad
 6% went away with screen off in 30 mins
 I have a couple of videos shot in .MOV format showing a comparison between OPO (vivid) and Pro 5 (xenial), but I need to convert and/or compress them before posting anywhere. I installed kdenlive, openshot, shotcut and flowblade as well as transmageddon on my Ubuntu 16.04 rig, but I can't get any of them to run properly. Most of
[15:51] <ubptgbot>  them won't even launch. … Any ideas?
 @TomasOqvist, I know this is off topic. But I use blender for my video editing
 @AlexanderPlaza, 👍
 @TomasOqvist, [Edit] I know this is off topic. But I use blender for my video editing - If you go on youtube and search "Blender - Video editing" You will find great tutorials.
 Should RNDIS work with Xenial? Trying to get share network phone>computer by usb..
 Any advice where is the SMS database stored?
 gues /home/phablet/.local ... but where?
 [Edit] guess /home/phablet/.local ... but where?
 `.local/share/history-service/history.sqlite`
 (I already told you in the Install group 😜)
 @advocatux, yep I know I§ve owerwritten that one together with .local/evolution/system/contacts.db and contact I have but messages didn't show up
 @advocatux, [Edit] yep I know I§ve owerwritten that one together with .local/evolution/system/contacts.db and contacts I have but messages didn't show up
 @advocatux, [Edit] yep I know I've owerwritten that one together with .local/evolution/system/contacts.db and contacts I have but messages didn't show up
 @pauloknoxx, You are right about Moto G2 Titan. Not for other Moto devices at the moment though
 @TomasOqvist, VLC?
 @Stereofont, oh ok then
 @pauloknoxx, Porting might be possible but a lot of effort and the benefit of that device would have to be evaluated
 @Stereofont, Testing vlc now, thanks.
 how to remove app data for browser? It is crashing all the time after 2 seconds on 15.04
 @Stereofont, file still clocks in at 37MB, need more compression.
 you can upload to youtube maybe?
 @Stereofont, I see, I'm not a developer or someting but I see that is not easy
 but would be easier to me if I buy a Meizu to install Ubuntu 😆
 or other compatible device
 @dotevo, NewBrowser doesn't work on vivid
 it is browser from Rom package, not from openstore
 @TomasOqvist, There are cloud services that do that?
 was working fine but it looks like one website couse the crash and there is crash loop
 @pauloknoxx, Even if you had the skills it would be 6 months or more of hard work, so I think you are right
 @dotevo, I don't understand about ROM package?
 Here you go: … https://youtu.be/c3-Y397v5XE … https://youtu.be/_USe3kKhd74
 I mean from the image with ut 15.04
 @dotevo, Sounds like it would be better to ask in the porting group
 @Stereofont, the question is not about porting
 @Stereofont, yeah, I'd love to install it on my Redmi 2 pro, may I ask 2 questions? we have full access to shell, like on PC? and when installing apps, do they go to the SD card directly, or internal space?
 @dotevo, the cache should be under `~/.cache/webbrowser-app/` i think if it's the primary browser you mean. maybe somehwere under `~/.local/share/webbrowser-app/` instead, or `~/.config/webbrowser-app/` but you probably don't want to just rm thos directories entirely (as doing so will also delete all history/cookies/saved data/
[17:03] <ubptgbot> etc for the browser)
 @pauloknoxx, apps are installed only on internal storage at the moment, and there is a terminal, but no it's not exactly like on a traditional linux distro on a PC
 I wll remove :) it is good to have webbrowser
 @dohbee, okay :) , I hope apps might be installed on SD storage and I wish the system stay just on internal space... I understand the concern of developers of avoiding that, however it'd be great if there's an option.
 maybe in future, but currently it would be quite difficult to achieve that i think
 @TomasOqvist, Is it caused by hardware difference or by better software adjustments?
 @unknown, i guess mostly hardware. especially if it's the 4GB pro 5
 @dohbee, Okay - thank you :-)
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/lWwgB4bK.png
 I would gguessed a bit of both. I think OPO has the same amount of RAM.
 *guessed
 but op1 is quad core 32-bit cpu, and pro5 is octa core 64-bit
 so the latter is going to be quite a bit faster at runnig 32-bit code
 @TomasOqvist, Nice!! This really shows the improvments qt5.9 and xenial gives :D
 @TomasOqvist, How did you get that theme?
 @amolith, Installing 16.04
 @UniversalSuperBox, Oh 😅
 Yes, the overall hw is better, but I don't recall my Pro 5 being this snappy using vivid. I have had it since Meizu released the Ubuntu Edition, always running some version of UT.
 @unknown, I would say mostly software, since the pro5 is running in armhf so even tough it has more power, it cannot benefit from them. the cpu on bacon has a faster clock speed
 clock speed can be really misleading
 when we get arm64 to work correctly pro5 will show its arms
 :)
 @mariogrip, it will probably be a little slower :)
 haha i dont think so, how the arm cpu's are built backwards compat is always a bit slower, even newer cpu des not even have 32compat
 the userspace apps are not heavily optimized such that the performance will really be much different
 @mariogrip, Interesting, I kind of had that feeling. A long time ago since I had a phone that felt as fast as this one.
 @dohbee, true that, probobly not much. but a little :)
 @mariogrip, all 64  ... ba dumm tsss
 well, xenial feels a lot slower on my nexus phones, than vivid did
 Part of that feeling is probably the scrolling momentum problem
 @TomasOqvist, also take a note in the new power saving things, it should last alot longer then vivid now :) now we use the wakelocks for real
 and even on vivid, my nexus 5 feels slower than it did ~2 years ago
 IMO my N4 is faster with Xenial than it was with Vivid..
 @UniversalSuperBox, exactly what i wanted to say :)
 @mariogrip, Except on the Nexus 5
 @UniversalSuperBox, nah, even ignoring the scrolling issue, there are other things that feel way slower, like the lock screen stuff
 @UniversalSuperBox, true
 @dohbee, i just installed vivid on nexus 5 and in feel slower as bq e5 was on original image (starting apps for veru long time)
 @dohbee, [Edit] i just installed vivid on nexus 5 and in feel slower than bq e5 was on original image (starting apps for veru long time)
 @dohbee, [Edit] i just installed vivid on nexus 5 and in feel slower than bq e5 was on original image (starting apps for very long time)
 @dohbee, humm, the human brain will rember the good things best, so you might not quite remember it was as slow haha :P
 @mariogrip, oh i didn't say it wasn't slow before. just that it's slower now :)
 @mariogrip, So they offically shipped a armhf phone with software not supporting arm64?
 @unknown, yes, we never got the arm64 build finished before the project was canceled
 so kernel is arm64, but userspace is armhf
 Okay - interesting
 @dohbee, (hes talking about canonical)
 this is very similar to the first Android devices on arm64 anyway
 we will contiue the arm64 trend :)
 and those performed fine - so it's not a very big problem
 arm64 + xenial + snaps was all happening at the same time
 but then, well, you know what happened
 @mariogrip, Of course 👍
 @mariogrip, excellent 👍
 @mariogrip, Yes, battery performance is actually quite good and miles better than my OPO. still over 50% after 12 hours, while my OPO would have gone dead by now.
 Wish I could buy the Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition in Canada.
 @AlexanderPlaza, You can get it from Canada Computers I think
 There are 3 available from China here: … https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-4gbRAM-Unlocked-DualSIM-NFC-FastCharge-support-Ubuntu-/272196027342?nav=SEARCH … It is tempting to buy the whole bunch, but deliveries can be pretty long and customs can be troublesome...
 @lastdon82, I just checked. Nope
 (But thanks, never heard of them!)
 @TomasOqvist, Ohhhhhhh ❤️ But you are right. customs and shipping (assuming it makes it here in one piece)
 Careful, putting Ubuntu on the Android edition isn't easy
 @UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for the heads up. If I could I would directly buy the Ubuntu edition. Just so I vote with my wallet "hey I want an Ubuntu Phone"
 (Photo, 1440x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/0aCmWlmc.png
 Pro 5 camera - check!
 @UniversalSuperBox, yeah, it's a bit hard, make sure if you buy it dont upgrade to 6.0 becuse it might be locked. there is a loophole you can take on any version under 6.0
 (android 6.0 that is)
 it is posseble https://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android
 if you buy the global version it's easier, but the china version is a bit harder (since its more locked(
 [Edit] if you buy the global version it's easier, but the china version is a bit harder (since its more locked)
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/5UXCAWw0.png
 And GPS too!
 Wooo :D
 I smell an RC release tomarrow
 :)
 (planned)
 (waiting)
 Amazing 🤩
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/mH81FCEs.mp4
 @mariogrip, Thanks!
 @TomasOqvist, is this a good comparison? they are different devices...are they really on par with each other in terms of perfomance?
 no taking anything away from xenial 😁 actually it also feel faster and smoother on my Nexus 5 with xenial
 @Javacookies, I am not the expert, but @mariogrip believes it has mostly to do with software, and I must say that my Pro 5 never felt faster!
 What did 437 change?
 Or maybe there's a changelog
 @TomasOqvist, Awesome
 Sadly the nexus 5 camera issue is still there
 I just experienced couple of strange bugs. First one: when answering incoming call, phone-app crashed, call stays active (green bar top), tried to hangup but cannot open phone-app anymore (it crashes). After call it works again.
 phone is Nexus4 with latest Xenial
 Ok moving to QA
 @samitormanen, It worked for me on hammerhead
 second problem was: I had hotspot active, when receiving incoming call it dropped network from 3G->2G and hotspot stopped working. after that call it connects back to 3G and hotspot works again.
 @samitormanen, That's how it works on every device and system unless you have volte afaik
 Yep, the radio can't handle a phone call and IP connectivity at the same time
 N5 stays always 3G when receiving call. When 4G is connected it drops to 3G during phone call
 hmm, keyboard is slow to disappear when unlocking screen for example
 @dohbee, Yeah, like 0.5s before it goes away
 Maybe less
 It's a know bug https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/616
 [Edit] It's a known bug https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/616
 @samitormanen, tried to reproduce this but seems like I can't. Now it always stays in 3G when receiving call. Even when hotspot active.. strange. Maybe it was temporary bad reception so it had to drop 2G for that moment..
 re: scroll momentum issue, it seems more like an event loop problem
 which is also why i think i'm seeing other issues unrelated to scrolling
 @DanChapman, were you able to investigate that problem on Friday?
 @wayneoutthere Heya, sorry I've been away on holiday the past couple of weeks, the initial work for the swype style input is in this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~michael-sheldon/ubuntu-keyboard/skeyer-prototype
 @wayneoutthere It adds support for libskeyer (which can convert swipes to words), but doesn't yet do the actual swipe input
 gives much better normal text correction too
 @wayneoutthere, I want fortnite mobile
 In ut
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ATGTYFS1.mp4
 Not that 1800 game
 (Sticker, 490x512) https://irc.ubports.com/7mLf6ee0.webp
 Didnt you block me, noob?
 Like on anbox
 It'd be good to play fortnite on ut
 Stahp
 ._____.
 well when anbox is working maybe you can play it then
 Im worried about lags
 I want 50 fps at least
 If on android i can play with 60
 well worry about it when anbox is usable
 @Wiz, It's not even out yet
 Fortnite is on ios only afaics
 There are some videos on yt about android version runnimg
 Didnt check tho
 Remote desktop or video playback lol
 Probably fakes
 @VeryOriginalUsername, Nono
 There's an app
 But it wants your phone number
 Lol
 Link me that yt video
 OT
 To end this discussion and therefore stop ot: there is none yet and if someone on youtube says there is one, there still isn't
 @VeryOriginalUsername, No!
 Wiz, knock it off.
 It was an ad lol
 Yes
 [Edit] Yes?
[22:33] <ubptgbot> David Torres was added by: David Torres
[22:34] <ubptgbot> <David Torres> hello
 Hola