| swift110 | sup guys | 00:02 |
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| leoncio|mate | heloo guys | 07:46 |
| leoncio|mate | how is your experience with the Ubuntu Mate | 07:56 |
| leoncio|mate | ? | 07:56 |
| Marconi212003 | So far so good. | 08:03 |
| Marconi212003 | I did not think anyone used IRC anymore. I used it in 97/98 but hey if it works. :) | 08:04 |
| jogi | where is my megaimage? | 08:19 |
| mate|62732 | Good morning, I am a beginner on linux, I am having many troubles installing it on a 64Gb microSD card for Raspberry Pi 3, I installed it from Win 8 using Win32Diskimager and everything works fine at the fisrt start, but after shutdown and restart it is impossible start again. | 08:26 |
| mate|62732 | I installed Mate on 8Gb without troubles other times. Does Mate have problems with 64Gb microSD? | 08:27 |
| jogi | you have not to use the ms formatting tool. i had problems on 64GB msd. | 08:28 |
| jogi | use gparted fat32 | 08:28 |
| jogi | i used lubuntu on a 64GB msd but i had problems. the card was too slow. | 08:29 |
| mate|62732 | I've used SDformatter | 08:29 |
| jogi | i am searching a mega-great image for berryboot again. | 08:30 |
| jogi | including a wine or virtual-box fast windows. | 08:31 |
| jogi | sd formatter should be working but i tried gparted gain. | 08:32 |
| jogi | so my 64GB card worked for berryboot. | 08:32 |
| mate|62732 | OK thank you i will try it, thank you | 08:35 |
| sixwheeledbeast^ | mate|62732: I guess you have followed the instructions here? | 08:58 |
| jogi | is there a ubuntu mate 17 with desktop? i forgot how to build sth. | 09:10 |
| jogi | or a ready-to-use windows? windows is just to use in connection with a pc? | 09:10 |
| jogi | oh these raspis must be old...... | 09:11 |
| alkisg | (11:31:40 πμ) jogi: including a wine or virtual-box fast windows. ==> haha do you mean to run windows on vbox on rpi? That would be like... running it in a 286 :D | 09:13 |
| alkisg | rpi is already 50 times slower than a real pc, to run emulators there... is asking for turtles | 09:14 |
| diogenes_ | alkisg, nevertheless Achilles couldn't catch the turtle XD | 09:16 |
| alkisg | diogenes_: wasn't that the rabbit/hare? :D | 09:16 |
| diogenes_ | alkisg, https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/142932/achilles-and-the-tortoise-paradox | 09:17 |
| alkisg | Ah you don't mean aisopos' tales, you mean ...sofisteies I don't know what's that in english | 09:17 |
| alkisg | Yeah ok lame argument, it was disproved from the start :D | 09:18 |
| diogenes_ | hehe | 09:18 |
| alkisg | I'd love to see windows 10 start in 2 days though, sure! | 09:19 |
| alkisg | I just wouldn't want to be the one to do it; I'd watch it in fast motion in youtube :P | 09:19 |
| jogi | what is the best DVD-burning software? K3b? .... i could not burn several times on a BD-RE100, just once. | 09:24 |
| jogi | windows is better, even the old one. | 09:25 |
| jogi | xfburn did burn multi-session DVDs?! i forgot . Or Brasero? | 09:25 |
| pi_ | hi | 09:55 |
| pi_ | hello word | 09:55 |
| jogi | could not find medium | 09:56 |
| mate|91000 | hola | 12:29 |
| === mate|91000 is now known as VirtualBoxMATE | ||
| diogenes_ | hola | 12:30 |
| VirtualBoxMATE | MATE is quite cool! | 12:30 |
| diogenes_ | it is | 12:30 |
| VirtualBoxMATE | Any idea if it supports HiDPI well, since it apparently migrated over to GTK3? | 12:31 |
| VirtualBoxMATE | Ok, so I just tried and MATE works excellently on a HiDPI/Retina display. Awesome! | 12:41 |
| diogenes_ | awesome | 12:41 |
| VirtualBoxMATE | Only thing I noticed is that there Welcome app looks slightly blurry. Other apps are fine. | 12:42 |
| antonio__ | como puedo recuperar la opción de apagado | 12:47 |
| alkisg | !es | 12:48 |
| ubottu | En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 12:48 |
| mate|78700 | greetings | 14:35 |
| diogenes_ | hi | 14:35 |
| mate|78700 | I'm trying to auto start vivaldi not having much luck | 14:36 |
| mate|78700 | do you have any suggestions? | 14:37 |
| Crono | hi | 21:41 |
| Crono | im a relative linux noob | 21:41 |
| Crono | can someone help me with rdp? | 21:41 |
| Crono | im not sure what im doing wrong | 21:41 |
| Crono | anyone? | 21:44 |
| Crono | im desparate | 21:44 |
| m4t | sure | 21:49 |
| m4t | rdp into a windows machine? | 21:49 |
| Crono | opposite | 21:55 |
| Crono | windows to ubuntu mate | 21:56 |
| m4t | oh | 21:56 |
| m4t | what have you tried already? i would suggest vnc | 21:56 |
| Crono | when i try vnc | 21:56 |
| Crono | i get | 21:56 |
| Crono | the connection was refused by the computer | 21:56 |
| Crono | from the windows machine | 21:57 |
| m4t | ok what did you do on the ubuntu machine to set up vnc...? | 21:57 |
| Crono | one moment | 21:58 |
| Crono | i believe i installed tightvnc | 21:59 |
| m4t | i haven't messed with vnc in a LONG time | 21:59 |
| m4t | but try this: https://snarkybrill.blogspot.com/2016/05/running-vino-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-mate.html | 21:59 |
| m4t | the commands listed are meant to be run on the ubuntu mate pc, in a mate desktop session | 21:59 |
| Crono | alright ill work on it | 22:00 |
| Crono | i mean | 22:00 |
| Crono | i have a ssh session | 22:00 |
| Crono | up | 22:00 |
| Crono | so on some level i can always connect | 22:00 |
| m4t | do you have console access (keyboard & mouse) at the ubuntu pc? | 22:00 |
| Crono | yea | 22:01 |
| m4t | yeah so follow those instructions | 22:01 |
| m4t | now...to have it be running directly after the PC reboots would be more complicated | 22:01 |
| m4t | the easiest way would be to setup e.g. lightdm to auto login to the user after a reboot. the instructions i linked should create an autostart entry so the vnc server is run at every login | 22:02 |
| Crono | alright let me work on it | 22:02 |
| m4t | so auto login = autostart vnc server | 22:02 |
| Crono | how do i "run vino preferences" | 22:06 |
| Crono | im a little confused about this | 22:07 |
| m4t | maybe system->preferences->*->remote desktop | 22:08 |
| m4t | not sure which menu | 22:08 |
| Crono | im lost | 22:14 |
| Crono | run vino-preferences enable remote access disable confirmation of the access | 22:14 |
| Crono | idk how to "run vino-prefences" here | 22:14 |
| m4t | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPQz9n5OLMo | 22:14 |
| Crono | see the problem im having | 22:15 |
| Crono | is that the version of ubuntu mate im using | 22:15 |
| Crono | doesnt have "desktop sharing" | 22:15 |
| Crono | settitngs | 22:15 |
| Crono | at least not where ive been able to look | 22:15 |
| m4t | which version of ubuntu? | 22:15 |
| Crono | ubuntu 17.10 | 22:16 |
| Crono | ubuntu mate is the distro? | 22:16 |
| m4t | do you have a system menu at the top left? | 22:16 |
| Crono | i have a menu on the top yes | 22:16 |
| m4t | ah | 22:17 |
| m4t | yeah maybe it doesnt show in mate | 22:17 |
| m4t | oh hmm | 22:18 |
| Crono | yeah | 22:18 |
| Crono | welcome to my world | 22:18 |
| m4t | hold on | 22:19 |
| m4t | yeah of course gnome stripped out the preferences gui in later versions lol | 22:22 |
| crono2 | this is also me | 22:22 |
| m4t | https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/vino/filelist | 22:22 |
| m4t | wait | 22:22 |
| m4t | no they didn't | 22:23 |
| m4t | https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/amd64/vino/filelist | 22:23 |
| m4t | they did in 18.04 but you're on 17.10 | 22:23 |
| Crono | yes? | 22:23 |
| m4t | can you open a terminal and type: vino-preferences? | 22:23 |
| m4t | without the ? | 22:23 |
| Crono | unable to init server: could not connect: connection refused | 22:24 |
| m4t | ok | 22:24 |
| Crono | (vino-preferences: 3292): Gtk-warning **: cannot open display: | 22:24 |
| m4t | in another terminal type /usr/lib/vino/vino-server | 22:24 |
| m4t | wait | 22:24 |
| m4t | are you doing this over ssh? | 22:24 |
| m4t | you need to be in mate desktop | 22:24 |
| Crono | oh | 22:25 |
| Crono | ok | 22:25 |
| Crono | one sec | 22:25 |
| m4t | there should be a 'Desktop Sharing' or similar entry in the system menu there... | 22:25 |
| crono2 | oh | 22:25 |
| crono2 | sweet | 22:25 |
| m4t | or just type vino-preferences | 22:25 |
| m4t | lol | 22:26 |
| crono2 | yeah i see it | 22:26 |
| m4t | were you checking windows menus or something? | 22:26 |
| crono2 | ok! | 22:26 |
| crono2 | no i was just on ssh trying to do it | 22:26 |
| m4t | heh | 22:26 |
| crono2 | im a very adept windows user | 22:26 |
| crono2 | but very novice linux user | 22:26 |
| m4t | m4t | maybe system->preferences->*->remote desktop | 22:26 |
| m4t | idk how you would look for that over ssh | 22:26 |
| crono2 | its not under the typical menu | 22:27 |
| crono2 | but i see system | 22:27 |
| crono2 | and preferences | 22:27 |
| crono2 | theres 4 submenus | 22:27 |
| crono2 | hardware | 22:27 |
| crono2 | internet and network | 22:27 |
| crono2 | look and feel | 22:27 |
| crono2 | and personal | 22:27 |
| crono2 | ive navigated through each and never found what i was looking for for sharing | 22:28 |
| m4t | yeah | 22:28 |
| m4t | you're right. i just installed the 17.10 package. | 22:28 |
| m4t | so just use vino-preferences from terminal; | 22:28 |
| crono2 | can you copy-paste that link again | 22:29 |
| m4t | https://snarkybrill.blogspot.com/2016/05/running-vino-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-mate.html | 22:29 |
| m4t | after running '/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-client-disable | 22:31 |
| m4t | ' | 22:31 |
| m4t | i think you should see a new entry under system->preferences->personal->startup applications | 22:31 |
| m4t | if you run that and scroll | 22:31 |
| === rev_strangehope_ is now known as revstrangehope | ||
| crono2 | hmm i just ran it | 22:33 |
| crono2 | it seems stuck | 22:33 |
| m4t | what does | 22:34 |
| crono2 | terminal | 22:34 |
| crono2 | i ctrl-c my way out | 22:35 |
| crono2 | but is it supposed to do that? | 22:35 |
| m4t | can you be more clear | 22:36 |
| m4t | e.g. details | 22:37 |
| crono2 | ran the command | 22:37 |
| m4t | what command | 22:37 |
| crono2 | i ran the command ' /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-client-disable" | 22:37 |
| crono2 | in terminal | 22:37 |
| crono2 | on the machine | 22:37 |
| m4t | okay. and it stayed running? | 22:37 |
| crono2 | but it did not resovle as other commands usually do | 22:37 |
| crono2 | yeah | 22:37 |
| m4t | ^C | 22:38 |
| crono2 | thats what i did | 22:38 |
| m4t | ls -lctr ~/.config/autostart | 22:38 |
| m4t | is there a new entry at the bottom of the output? | 22:38 |
| crono2 | -rw-r--r-- 1 andrew andrew 784 Apr 22 10:57 ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop | 22:38 |
| crono2 | which is me | 22:38 |
| m4t | hrm | 22:40 |
| crono2 | andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ ls -lctr ~/.config/autostart total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 andrew andrew 784 Apr 22 10:57 ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop | 22:41 |
| crono2 | is the whole string | 22:41 |
| crono2 | is that bad? | 22:41 |
| m4t | oh nvm | 22:42 |
| m4t | its using systemd in 17.10 | 22:42 |
| m4t | heh | 22:42 |
| crono2 | i dont see vino under startup applications | 22:42 |
| m4t | systemctl --user list-units vino-server.service ? | 22:42 |
| crono2 | 0 loaded units listed. Pass --all to see loaded but inactive units, too. To show all installed unit files use 'systemctl list-unit-files'. | 22:43 |
| m4t | maybe try systemctl --user enable vino-server.service | 22:44 |
| crono2 | ndrew@Ubuntu1:~$ systemctl --user enable vino-server.service The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy, RequiredBy, Also, Alias settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: 1) A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's .wants/ or .requires/ dire | 22:44 |
| m4t | o | 22:44 |
| m4t | hmm | 22:45 |
| crono2 | requirement dependency on it. 3) A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer, D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). 4) In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some instance name specified. andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ | 22:45 |
| m4t | try logging out and back in | 22:45 |
| m4t | see if it starts, i guess its using /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop | 22:45 |
| m4t | idk. i can't test this on my end. | 22:46 |
| crono2 | crono2 will brb then | 22:46 |
| m4t | you did set it to enabled? | 22:46 |
| m4t | in vino-preferences? | 22:46 |
| m4t | AutostartCondition=GSettings org.gnome.Vino enabled | 22:47 |
| m4t | the autostart checks that... | 22:47 |
| crono2_ | ok im back | 22:48 |
| crono2_ | how should i test? | 22:48 |
| m4t | you did set it to enabled in vino-preferences though right? | 22:48 |
| crono2_ | yes | 22:48 |
| m4t | ok | 22:48 |
| m4t | open up a terminal and 'pgrep -f vino-server' | 22:48 |
| m4t | does it list a #? | 22:48 |
| crono2_ | andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ pgrep -f vino-server andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ | 22:49 |
| crono2_ | andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ vino-preferences Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. (vino-preferences:5263): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion 'text != NULL' failed | 22:49 |
| m4t | uhm | 22:50 |
| crono2_ | that last one was just a precaution | 22:52 |
| m4t | okay well i have no idea what is keeping it from starting but you can manually add it | 22:52 |
| m4t | go back to the startup applications preference window, click Add | 22:52 |
| m4t | for name put: vino-server | 22:53 |
| m4t | for command put: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable | 22:53 |
| m4t | then click add | 22:53 |
| crono2_ | done | 22:53 |
| m4t | click close, then logout and back in again | 22:53 |
| crono2_ | brb | 22:53 |
| crono2 | im back | 22:55 |
| m4t | does pgrep -f vino-server show anything now? | 22:55 |
| crono2 | im back | 22:55 |
| crono2 | woops | 22:55 |
| crono2 | 5854 | 22:56 |
| m4t | ok it's running | 22:56 |
| crono2 | perfect! | 22:56 |
| m4t | fyi, doing it that way bypasses the preference from vino-preferences | 22:56 |
| m4t | it might start even if you disable it in vino-preferences | 22:56 |
| crono2 | from the startup apps? | 22:56 |
| m4t | if that's the case just go back to the startup applications and uncheck the vino-server entry | 22:56 |
| m4t | yes | 22:56 |
| crono2 | gotcha | 22:56 |
| m4t | (if you want to disable it) | 22:56 |
| crono2 | im not too worried about it | 22:56 |
| crono2 | at the rate that i image machines | 22:57 |
| crono2 | it wont be an issue | 22:57 |
| m4t | i guess see if it works | 22:57 |
| m4t | which vnc client are you using? | 22:57 |
| Crono | vnc viewer | 22:58 |
| Crono | connection refused | 22:58 |
| m4t | heh | 22:58 |
| m4t | did you set it to listen on all interfaces? | 22:58 |
| Crono | i set it to lo | 22:58 |
| m4t | lol | 22:58 |
| Crono | per the instructions | 22:58 |
| m4t | lo = localhost = won't work from anywhere except...the pc itself | 22:59 |
| Crono | oooooooooooooo | 22:59 |
| m4t | unless you did an ssh forward which will be another complicated setup.. | 22:59 |
| crono2 | i clearly did not | 22:59 |
| m4t | yeah those instructions said lo for some reason, i guess the guy was intending to use ssh forward | 23:00 |
| m4t | which is more secure but an additional setup step | 23:00 |
| m4t | i think if you blank out the interfaces field it should listen * | 23:00 |
| Crono | suc | 23:01 |
| crono2 | ccess! | 23:01 |
| m4t | cool | 23:01 |
| Crono | we did it! | 23:01 |
| Crono | more accurately | 23:01 |
| Crono | you did it! | 23:01 |
| Crono | wow what a pain in the ass | 23:02 |
| m4t | those instructions say blank password too btw, which you might want to change as well | 23:02 |
| m4t | and no encryption. hah ;) | 23:02 |
| Crono | yeah i have one | 23:02 |
| m4t | ok | 23:02 |
| Crono | sweet | 23:02 |
| Crono | now i dont have to get up so much | 23:02 |
| Crono | basically im trying to get to the point | 23:03 |
| Crono | where i dont have to be home to use my home stuff | 23:03 |
| Crono | ie vpn | 23:03 |
| Crono | baby steps! | 23:04 |
| m4t | you initially asked about rdp...there's this https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp | 23:05 |
| m4t | funny it seems like it would've been a heck of a lot easier to setup | 23:05 |
| Crono | i dont know to use github on a linux machine | 23:07 |
| Crono | its not the first time its been linked to me | 23:07 |
| Crono | can you explain? | 23:07 |
| m4t | way too broad a question. just use apt-get | 23:07 |
| Crono | apt-get https://github.com/url | 23:07 |
| Crono | ? | 23:07 |
| m4t | no...that's the source code. ubuntu ships binary executables derived from source code | 23:08 |
| m4t | you've got vnc working - stick with that until you're comfortable setting something else up | 23:08 |
| Crono | will do | 23:10 |
| Crono | https://github.com/Angristan/OpenVPN-install | 23:12 |
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