[00:02] <swift110> sup guys
[07:46] <leoncio|mate> heloo guys
[07:56] <leoncio|mate> how is your experience with the Ubuntu Mate
[07:56] <leoncio|mate> ?
[08:03] <Marconi212003> So far so good.
[08:04] <Marconi212003> I did not think anyone used IRC anymore. I used it in 97/98 but hey if it works. :)
[08:19] <jogi> where is my megaimage?
[08:26] <mate|62732> Good morning, I am a beginner on linux, I am having many troubles installing it on a 64Gb microSD card for Raspberry Pi 3, I installed it from Win 8 using Win32Diskimager and everything works fine at the fisrt start, but after shutdown and restart it is impossible start again.
[08:27] <mate|62732> I installed Mate on 8Gb without troubles other times. Does Mate have problems with 64Gb microSD?
[08:28] <jogi> you have not to use the ms formatting tool. i had problems on 64GB msd.
[08:28] <jogi> use gparted fat32
[08:29] <jogi> i used lubuntu on a 64GB msd but i had problems. the card was too slow.
[08:29] <mate|62732> I've used SDformatter
[08:30] <jogi> i am searching a mega-great image for berryboot again.
[08:31] <jogi> including a wine or virtual-box fast windows.
[08:32] <jogi> sd formatter should be working but i tried gparted gain.
[08:32] <jogi> so my 64GB card worked for berryboot.
[08:35] <mate|62732> OK thank you i will try it, thank you
[08:58] <sixwheeledbeast^> mate|62732: I guess you have followed the instructions here?
[09:10] <jogi> is there a ubuntu mate 17 with desktop? i forgot how to build sth.
[09:10] <jogi> or a ready-to-use windows? windows is just to use in connection with a pc?
[09:11] <jogi> oh these raspis must be old......
[09:13] <alkisg> (11:31:40 πμ) jogi: including a wine or virtual-box fast windows. ==> haha do you mean to run windows on vbox on rpi? That would be like... running it in a 286 :D
[09:14] <alkisg> rpi is already 50 times slower than a real pc, to run emulators there... is asking for turtles
[09:16] <diogenes_> alkisg, nevertheless Achilles couldn't catch the turtle XD
[09:16] <alkisg> diogenes_: wasn't that the rabbit/hare? :D
[09:17] <diogenes_> alkisg, https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/142932/achilles-and-the-tortoise-paradox
[09:17] <alkisg> Ah you don't mean aisopos' tales, you mean ...sofisteies I don't know what's that in english
[09:18] <alkisg> Yeah ok lame argument, it was disproved from the start :D
[09:18] <diogenes_> hehe
[09:19] <alkisg> I'd love to see windows 10 start in 2 days though, sure!
[09:19] <alkisg> I just wouldn't want to be the one to do it; I'd watch it in fast motion in youtube :P
[09:24] <jogi> what is the best DVD-burning software? K3b? .... i could not burn several times on a BD-RE100, just once.
[09:25] <jogi> windows is better, even the old one.
[09:25] <jogi> xfburn did burn multi-session DVDs?! i forgot . Or Brasero?
[09:55] <pi_> hi
[09:55] <pi_> hello word
[09:56] <jogi> could not find medium
[12:29] <mate|91000> hola
[12:30] <diogenes_> hola
[12:30] <VirtualBoxMATE> MATE is quite cool!
[12:30] <diogenes_> it is
[12:31] <VirtualBoxMATE> Any idea if it supports HiDPI well, since it apparently migrated over to GTK3?
[12:41] <VirtualBoxMATE> Ok, so I just tried and MATE works excellently on a HiDPI/Retina display. Awesome!
[12:41] <diogenes_> awesome
[12:42] <VirtualBoxMATE> Only thing I noticed is that there Welcome app looks slightly blurry. Other apps are fine.
[12:47] <antonio__> como puedo recuperar la opción de apagado
[12:48] <alkisg> !es
[14:35] <mate|78700> greetings
[14:35] <diogenes_> hi
[14:36] <mate|78700> I'm trying to auto start vivaldi not having much luck
[14:37] <mate|78700> do you have any suggestions?
[21:41] <Crono> hi
[21:41] <Crono> im a relative linux noob
[21:41] <Crono> can someone help me with rdp?
[21:41] <Crono> im not sure what im doing wrong
[21:44] <Crono> anyone?
[21:44] <Crono> im desparate
[21:49] <m4t> sure
[21:49] <m4t> rdp into a windows machine?
[21:55] <Crono> opposite
[21:56] <Crono> windows to ubuntu mate
[21:56] <m4t> oh
[21:56] <m4t> what have you tried already? i would suggest vnc
[21:56] <Crono> when i try vnc
[21:56] <Crono> i get
[21:56] <Crono> the connection was refused by the computer
[21:57] <Crono> from the windows machine
[21:57] <m4t> ok what did you do on the ubuntu machine to set up vnc...?
[21:58] <Crono> one moment
[21:59] <Crono> i believe i installed tightvnc
[21:59] <m4t> i haven't messed with vnc in a LONG time
[21:59] <m4t> but try this: https://snarkybrill.blogspot.com/2016/05/running-vino-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-mate.html
[21:59] <m4t> the commands listed are meant to be run on the ubuntu mate pc, in a mate desktop session
[22:00] <Crono> alright ill work on it
[22:00] <Crono> i mean
[22:00] <Crono> i have a ssh session
[22:00] <Crono> up
[22:00] <Crono> so on some level i can always connect
[22:00] <m4t> do you have console access (keyboard & mouse) at the ubuntu pc?
[22:01] <Crono> yea
[22:01] <m4t> yeah so follow those instructions
[22:01] <m4t> now...to have it be running directly after the PC reboots would be more complicated
[22:02] <m4t> the easiest way would be to setup e.g. lightdm to auto login to the user after a reboot. the instructions i linked should create an autostart entry so the vnc server is run at every login
[22:02] <Crono> alright let me work on it
[22:02] <m4t> so auto login = autostart vnc server
[22:06] <Crono> how do i "run vino preferences"
[22:07] <Crono> im a little confused about this
[22:08] <m4t> maybe system->preferences->*->remote desktop
[22:08] <m4t> not sure which menu
[22:14] <Crono> im lost
[22:14] <Crono> run vino-preferences enable remote access disable confirmation of the access
[22:14] <Crono> idk how to "run vino-prefences" here
[22:14] <m4t> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPQz9n5OLMo
[22:15] <Crono> see the problem im having
[22:15] <Crono> is that the version of ubuntu mate im using
[22:15] <Crono> doesnt have "desktop sharing"
[22:15] <Crono> settitngs
[22:15] <Crono>  at least not where ive been able to look
[22:15] <m4t> which version of ubuntu?
[22:16] <Crono> ubuntu 17.10
[22:16] <Crono> ubuntu mate is the distro?
[22:16] <m4t> do you have a system menu at the top left?
[22:16] <Crono> i have a menu on the top yes
[22:17] <m4t> ah
[22:17] <m4t> yeah maybe it doesnt show in mate
[22:18] <m4t> oh hmm
[22:18] <Crono> yeah
[22:18] <Crono> welcome to my world
[22:19] <m4t> hold on
[22:22] <m4t> yeah of course gnome stripped out the preferences gui in later versions lol
[22:22] <crono2> this is also me
[22:22] <m4t> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/vino/filelist
[22:22] <m4t> wait
[22:23] <m4t> no they didn't
[22:23] <m4t> https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/amd64/vino/filelist
[22:23] <m4t> they did in 18.04 but you're on 17.10
[22:23] <Crono> yes?
[22:23] <m4t> can you open a terminal and type: vino-preferences?
[22:23] <m4t> without the ?
[22:24] <Crono> unable to init server: could not connect: connection refused
[22:24] <m4t> ok
[22:24] <Crono> (vino-preferences: 3292): Gtk-warning **: cannot open display:
[22:24] <m4t> in another terminal type /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[22:24] <m4t> wait
[22:24] <m4t> are you doing this over ssh?
[22:24] <m4t> you need to be in mate desktop
[22:25] <Crono> oh
[22:25] <Crono> ok
[22:25] <Crono> one sec
[22:25] <m4t> there should be a 'Desktop Sharing' or similar entry in the system menu there...
[22:25] <crono2> oh
[22:25] <crono2> sweet
[22:25] <m4t> or just type vino-preferences
[22:26] <m4t> lol
[22:26] <crono2> yeah i see it
[22:26] <m4t> were you checking windows menus or something?
[22:26] <crono2> ok!
[22:26] <crono2> no i was just on ssh trying to do it
[22:26] <m4t> heh
[22:26] <crono2> im a very adept windows user
[22:26] <crono2> but very novice linux user
[22:26] <m4t> m4t | maybe system->preferences->*->remote desktop
[22:26] <m4t> idk how you would look for that over ssh
[22:27] <crono2> its not under the typical menu
[22:27] <crono2> but i see system
[22:27] <crono2> and preferences
[22:27] <crono2> theres 4 submenus
[22:27] <crono2> hardware
[22:27] <crono2> internet and network
[22:27] <crono2> look and feel
[22:27] <crono2> and personal
[22:28] <crono2> ive navigated through each and never found what i was looking for for sharing
[22:28] <m4t> yeah
[22:28] <m4t> you're right. i just installed the 17.10 package.
[22:28] <m4t> so just use vino-preferences from terminal;
[22:29] <crono2> can you copy-paste that link again
[22:29] <m4t> https://snarkybrill.blogspot.com/2016/05/running-vino-vnc-server-on-ubuntu-mate.html
[22:31] <m4t> after running '/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-client-disable
[22:31] <m4t> '
[22:31] <m4t> i think you should see a new entry under system->preferences->personal->startup applications
[22:31] <m4t> if you run that and scroll
[22:33] <crono2> hmm i just ran it
[22:33] <crono2> it seems stuck
[22:34] <m4t> what does
[22:34] <crono2> terminal
[22:35] <crono2> i ctrl-c my way out
[22:35] <crono2> but is it supposed to do that?
[22:36] <m4t> can you be more clear
[22:37] <m4t> e.g. details
[22:37] <crono2> ran the command
[22:37] <m4t> what command
[22:37] <crono2> i ran the command ' /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-client-disable"
[22:37] <crono2> in terminal
[22:37] <crono2> on the machine
[22:37] <m4t> okay. and it stayed running?
[22:37] <crono2> but it did not resovle as other commands usually do
[22:37] <crono2> yeah
[22:38] <m4t> ^C
[22:38] <crono2> thats what i did
[22:38] <m4t> ls -lctr ~/.config/autostart
[22:38] <m4t> is there a new entry at the bottom of the output?
[22:38] <crono2> -rw-r--r-- 1 andrew andrew 784 Apr 22 10:57 ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop
[22:38] <crono2> which is me
[22:40] <m4t> hrm
[22:41] <crono2> andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ ls -lctr ~/.config/autostart total 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 andrew andrew 784 Apr 22 10:57 ubuntu-mate-welcome.desktop
[22:41] <crono2> is the whole string
[22:41] <crono2> is that bad?
[22:42] <m4t> oh nvm
[22:42] <m4t> its using systemd in 17.10
[22:42] <m4t> heh
[22:42] <crono2> i dont see vino under startup applications
[22:42] <m4t> systemctl --user list-units vino-server.service ?
[22:43] <crono2> 0 loaded units listed. Pass --all to see loaded but inactive units, too. To show all installed unit files use 'systemctl list-unit-files'.
[22:44] <m4t> maybe try systemctl --user enable vino-server.service
[22:44] <crono2> ndrew@Ubuntu1:~$ systemctl --user enable vino-server.service The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy, RequiredBy, Also, Alias settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance for template units). This means they are not meant to be enabled using systemctl. Possible reasons for having this kind of units are: 1) A unit may be statically enabled by being symlinked from another unit's    .wants/ or .requires/ dire
[22:44] <m4t> o
[22:45] <m4t> hmm
[22:45] <crono2> requirement dependency on it. 3) A unit may be started when needed via activation (socket, path, timer,    D-Bus, udev, scripted systemctl call, ...). 4) In case of template units, the unit is meant to be enabled with some    instance name specified. andrew@Ubuntu1:~$
[22:45] <m4t> try logging out and back in
[22:45] <m4t> see if it starts, i guess its using /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop
[22:46] <m4t> idk. i can't test this on my end.
[22:46] <crono2> crono2 will brb then
[22:46] <m4t> you did set it to enabled?
[22:46] <m4t> in vino-preferences?
[22:47] <m4t> AutostartCondition=GSettings org.gnome.Vino enabled
[22:47] <m4t> the autostart checks that...
[22:48] <crono2_> ok im back
[22:48] <crono2_> how should i test?
[22:48] <m4t> you did set it to enabled in vino-preferences though right?
[22:48] <crono2_> yes
[22:48] <m4t> ok
[22:48] <m4t> open up a terminal and 'pgrep -f vino-server'
[22:48] <m4t> does it list a #?
[22:49] <crono2_> andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ pgrep -f vino-server andrew@Ubuntu1:~$
[22:49] <crono2_> andrew@Ubuntu1:~$ vino-preferences Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.  (vino-preferences:5263): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_entry_set_text: assertion 'text != NULL' failed
[22:50] <m4t> uhm
[22:52] <crono2_> that last one was just a precaution
[22:52] <m4t> okay well i have no idea what is keeping it from starting but you can manually add it
[22:52] <m4t> go back to the startup applications preference window, click Add
[22:53] <m4t> for name put: vino-server
[22:53] <m4t> for command put: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server --sm-disable
[22:53] <m4t> then click add
[22:53] <crono2_> done
[22:53] <m4t> click close, then logout and back in again
[22:53] <crono2_> brb
[22:55] <crono2> im back
[22:55] <m4t> does pgrep -f vino-server show anything now?
[22:55] <crono2> im back
[22:55] <crono2> woops
[22:56] <crono2> 5854
[22:56] <m4t> ok it's running
[22:56] <crono2> perfect!
[22:56] <m4t> fyi, doing it that way bypasses the preference from vino-preferences
[22:56] <m4t> it might start even if you disable it in vino-preferences
[22:56] <crono2> from the startup apps?
[22:56] <m4t> if that's the case just go back to the startup applications and uncheck the vino-server entry
[22:56] <m4t> yes
[22:56] <crono2> gotcha
[22:56] <m4t> (if you want to disable it)
[22:56] <crono2> im not too worried about it
[22:57] <crono2> at the rate that i image machines
[22:57] <crono2> it wont be an issue
[22:57] <m4t> i guess see if it works
[22:57] <m4t> which vnc client are you using?
[22:58] <Crono> vnc viewer
[22:58] <Crono> connection refused
[22:58] <m4t> heh
[22:58] <m4t> did you set it to listen on all interfaces?
[22:58] <Crono> i set it to lo
[22:58] <m4t> lol
[22:58] <Crono> per the instructions
[22:59] <m4t> lo = localhost = won't work from anywhere except...the pc itself
[22:59] <Crono> oooooooooooooo
[22:59] <m4t> unless you did an ssh forward which will be another complicated setup..
[22:59] <crono2> i clearly did not
[23:00] <m4t> yeah those instructions said lo for some reason, i guess the guy was intending to use ssh forward
[23:00] <m4t> which is more secure but an additional setup step
[23:00] <m4t> i think if you blank out the interfaces field it should listen *
[23:01] <Crono> suc
[23:01] <crono2> ccess!
[23:01] <m4t> cool
[23:01] <Crono> we did it!
[23:01] <Crono> more accurately
[23:01] <Crono> you did it!
[23:02] <Crono> wow what a pain in the ass
[23:02] <m4t> those instructions say blank password too btw, which you might want to change as well
[23:02] <m4t> and no encryption. hah ;)
[23:02] <Crono> yeah i have one
[23:02] <m4t> ok
[23:02] <Crono> sweet
[23:02] <Crono> now i dont have to get up so much
[23:03] <Crono> basically im trying to get to the point
[23:03] <Crono> where i dont have to be home to use my home stuff
[23:03] <Crono> ie vpn
[23:04] <Crono> baby steps!
[23:05] <m4t> you initially asked about rdp...there's this https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
[23:05] <m4t> funny it seems like it would've been a heck of a lot easier to setup
[23:07] <Crono> i dont know to use github on a linux machine
[23:07] <Crono> its not the first time its been linked to me
[23:07] <Crono> can you explain?
[23:07] <m4t> way too broad a question. just use apt-get
[23:07] <Crono> apt-get https://github.com/url
[23:07] <Crono> ?
[23:08] <m4t> no...that's the source code. ubuntu ships binary executables derived from source code
[23:08] <m4t> you've got vnc working - stick with that until you're comfortable setting something else up
[23:10] <Crono> will do
[23:12] <Crono> https://github.com/Angristan/OpenVPN-install