[00:07] <theorem> is there a quick way of turning STDOUT into an environment variable ?  echo "test" | xargs export ABC=
[00:07] <theorem> this doesn't work ..
[00:20] <thePiGrepper> wouldnt 'export a=$(any_command)' work?
[00:22] <mrxrobot> hello guys
[00:22] <mrxrobot> Does anyone here know how to install the "toxic"?
[00:22] <thePiGrepper> what's that?
[00:22] <mrxrobot> toxic is a client for tox
[00:23] <mrxrobot> https://tox.chat
[00:23] <maum> hello
[00:24] <maum> how can I ping to ubunt on vm in windows?
[00:24] <thePiGrepper> did you read this https://blog.tox.chat/2018/02/shutdown-of-the-debian-and-ubuntu-package-repository/ ?
[00:24] <maum> on ubuntu, I can ping to windows. but on windows, I cannot ping to ubuntu
[00:24] <mrxrobot> yes
[00:25] <mrxrobot> I cloned the repository in github, but at the time of compiling does not install
[00:26] <thePiGrepper> have you checked if there are snaps available?
[00:26] <qwebirc75325> Ok I need help setting up Ubuntu on my Dad's mining rig. We were previously using HiveOS (based on Ubuntu). But he wants to mine Nicehash. So I'm following the guide here: https://amp.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comments/777ezc/running_nicehash_for_gpu_on_ubuntu/
[00:26] <qwebirc75325> But most of the commands it says to use. Don't work.
[00:27] <mrxrobot> thePiGrepper:
[00:27] <mrxrobot> thePiGrepper: do you know any software similar to "toxic"
[00:27] <mrxrobot> ?
[00:28] <thePiGrepper> similar as in 'any other tox client' or 'any other tux tui/ncurses client'?
[00:29] <tomreyn> mrxrobot: while this is not really an #ubuntu topic IMO, there are links to  static and dynamic builds of "toxic" and other software at https://tox.chat/download.html
[00:29] <qwebirc75325> Namely the ones involving purging nvidia drivers and setting up the recommended drivers. I downloaded Cuda. But I don't think it'll work without the proper Nvidia drivers first. Also, I have 12 gpus on this thing. How will Ubuntu support that?
[00:30] <mrxrobot> tomreyn: thank you
[00:31] <tomreyn> welcome
[00:31] <qwebirc75325> I am using Ubuntu 18.04 btw. Not HiveOS. I can see how that'd be confusing.
[00:31] <thePiGrepper> most of these wont work if you're looking for an CLI option, but here https://wiki.tox.chat/clients
[00:35] <BillGHero> I'm trying to diagnose a problem where the GUI desktop/login appears to be not coming up. I believe that I have found evidence that gdm is not able to start up properly using 'systemctl status'. Can someone take a look at this for me? https://pastebin.com/kjkp2PU2
[00:46] <BillGHero> Better yet, could someone here advise me as to how to regress some of the gdm-related packages on my machine so I can see if one of the updates pushed in the last week or so are the culprit for my issue?
[01:15] <BillGHero> Can no one help me figure out why GDM won't show?
[01:26] <Guest94844> hey
[01:27] <Guest94844> what's up ?
[01:28] <Guest94844> hi man
[01:30] <Mrd2> Hey....
[01:36] <Mrd2> http://goo.gl/kM54wa
[01:45] <BillGHero> Guest94844: Hello?
[02:37] <linux_noob4> glxinfo reports version 3.1 but my gpu supports 4.3. i'm using amdgpu drivers. is this normal?
[02:44] <Kevin`> is there a reasonable chance the ubuntu 18 installer will work if I use the server version instead of the desktop version? it's reliably crashing when it gets to displaying copying files https://pastebin.com/1MhTjc8i
[02:54] <qwebirc16086> Can someone explain how to install Nvidia drivers on my mining rig? The guide I'm using (https://amp.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/comments/777ezc/running_nicehash_for_gpu_on_ubuntu/) doesn't help. Since the commands for purge and install drivers don't work.
[02:54] <guiverc> Kevin`, did you verify your download? (md5sum or sha..) and verify cd/thumb-drive integrity (if available)?
[02:55] <qwebirc16086> Well purge does. But not installing drivers.
[02:58] <Kevin`> # dd if=/dev/sdb bs=64K count=29325 |md5sum -
[02:58] <Kevin`> 129292a182136a35e1f89c586dbac2e2  -
[02:58] <Kevin`> looks ok
[02:59] <Kevin`> @ guiverc ^
[03:02] <guiverc> qwebirc16086, maybe this will help - https://askubuntu.com/questions/995969/error-install-nvidia-387-error-bad-return-status-for-module-build-on-kernel
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Kevin`: Mope not ubuntu md5sum : http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/MD5SUMS-metalink .
[03:04] <Kevin`> you are misreading that, it's literal
[03:04] <Kevin`> 435021bd184f9cb132ae9537869da8fa  Downloads/ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.metalink
[03:05] <Kevin`> https://www.google.com/search?q=129292a182136a35e1f89c586dbac2e2
[03:06] <qwebirc16086> Do I need the CUDA toolkit to mine with my mining rig?
[03:06] <qwebirc16086> Trying to cut back on disk space usage. Since I'm running on a flash drive.
[03:07] <qwebirc16086> quiverc: I'll check it out. Thanks
[03:09] <gbear14275> quick favor, if anyone has plex installed on their 18.04 box could I get a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/plexmediaserver.list?
[03:09] <gbear14275> I accidentally overwrote mine
[03:15] <WoC> gbear14275, # wget -q https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-keys/PlexSign.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[03:15] <WoC> +#deb https://downloads.plex.tv/repo/deb/ public main
[03:15] <WoC> k?
[03:15] <gbear14275> perfect, thanks WoC
[03:15] <WoC> np
[03:42] <qwebirc16086> Ok next question. Is there anyway to roll back to only Minimal packages? I chose full. But I forgot about the constraint of a flash drive. So needing to use less space.
[03:46] <qwebirc16086> Yeah what it's saying when I try to download the nvidia driver is, "Package 'nvidia-387' has no installation candidate."
[03:46] <qwebirc16086> This may mean the package is missing, have been obsolete, or is only available from another source.
[03:47] <Kevin`> the server text installed does indeed still work. now to figure out what packages are needed now for a desktop, how network configuration works without /etc/network/interfaces, etc..
[03:47] <guiverc> qwebirc16086, minimal install installs everything, then deletes from a list. i'm not sure where to find 'list', but just remove whatever you don't want/need..
[03:48] <qwebirc16086> OK will open up Software Manager, or Synaptic or what have you and check it out.
[03:51] <Bashing-om> qwebirc16086: ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[03:57] <hanabishi> hello Every one
[03:57] <hanabishi> i want to ask some thing about my desktop
[03:59] <hanabishi> when we drag a some window touch a top layyer of desktop,it will make a window to Full screen rigth??
[04:01] <hanabishi> axnd when we drag window to another side, it will made a window to haft desktop rigth??
[04:03] <hanabishi> if me want drag a window touch a below desktop and make a window to half of wondow below like IOS can i???
[04:03] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: I do not see that '
[04:03] <Bashing-om> feature' on xfce .
[04:05] <smallville7123> https://i.imgur.com/e60KoLb.jpg How do i fix this
[04:08] <hanabishi> hello i'm used - Linux 4.4.0-128 [UBUNTU]
[04:09] <hanabishi> i want to ask some thing about my desktop, when we drag a some window touch a top layyer of desktop,it will make a window to Full screen rigth??
[04:09] <hanabishi>  and when we drag window to another side like rigth side or lelf side, it will made a window to haft desktop rigth??if me want drag a window touch a below desktop and make a window to half of wondow below like IOS can i???
[04:15] <hanabishi> Hello, i'm run into a problem
[04:15] <hanabishi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:15] <hanabishi>    error
[04:16] <hanabishi> can help me???
[04:16] <smallville7123_> how do i uninstall ubuntu
[04:16] <smallville7123_> in a container
[04:19] <guiverc> hanabishi, the dpkg error is probably higher up your messages - the last E: is like a summary statement  (use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ for command line tools to copy/paste multiple lines of messages for help here)
[04:19] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: Pastebin the out put of ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[04:25] <smallville7123_> How do i uninstall ubuntu without uninstalling everything
[04:26] <smallville7123_> As i want to convert ubuntu to archlinux
[04:30] <jamskrusha> hello
[04:30] <jamskrusha> HI ALLAN
[04:30] <alan_> hey
[04:30] <jamskrusha> Small word
[04:31] <alan_> no flat world
[04:31] <guiverc> smallville7123_, that really is a question for an arch room I suspect... but you just install it..
[04:36] <smallville7123_> Cant
[04:36] <hanabishi> it different ?? beetween apt-get and apt ???
[04:36] <smallville7123_> i in a container
[04:38] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: See: https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ .
[04:39] <Bashing-om> !paste | hanabishi
[04:44] <hanabishi> okey i will, sorry to troble you
[04:46] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: All A process in learning .. we were all new at one time :)
[04:49] <hanabishi> thank you very much for your kindly support me
[04:54] <hanabishi> Please help : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v2C4KmbF56/
[04:59] <Bashing-om> !info runit xenial
[05:01] <smallville7123_> (◉-◉)
[05:02] <guiverc> hanabishi, you could try `sudo apt -f install`  (prior git-deamon-run failed because of runit wasn't configured.. next I'd try `sudo dpkg-recongifure runit`)...
[05:03] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: what results ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure runit ' ?
[05:04] <hanabishi> now try = sudo apt -f install
[05:05] <hanabishi> it stell beit still be Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:05] <hanabishi>  runit
[05:06] <hanabishi> it still be a Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:06] <hanabishi>  runit
[05:07] <hanabishi> it show : sudo: dpkg-recongifure: command not found
[05:07] <guiverc> sorry hanabishi - my typo.. `sudo dpkg-reconfigure runit` ; bashing-om typed it correctly (unlike me)
[05:08] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Oh great one ! I have never seen an error on your part :P
[05:09] <guiverc> :)    (you've not been watching closely then :) ...
[05:10] <smallville7123_> How do i uninstall ubuntu to a minimal install
[05:11] <smallville7123_> Whereit only has a shell and apt and nothing else
[05:12] <smallville7123_> Without causing ubuntu to stop working
[05:12] <smallville7123_> or unable to boot up
[05:12] <Bashing-om> smallville7123_: The practice is to buid up rather than tear down , Install the minimal .
[05:13] <smallville7123_> Cant
[05:13] <smallville7123_> I only hv access to pre configured ubuntu containers
[05:18] <sarp> hello, how can I go about troubleshooting a blackscreen issue?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> smallville7123_: This will give you an idea of how difficult it is that you are asking to do : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-lubuntu/ .
[05:21] <hanabishi> ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure runit
[05:21] <hanabishi> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: runit is broken or not fully installed
[05:22] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | sarp - nvidia ?
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[05:23] <Squarism> one thing that feels like such a mismatch in desktop OS design is the strong separation into programs instead of context. For a user its more important what context they work in rather than what programs they use. My 3 webpages, word document, command prompt should be associated with context more than what programs I use. I wonder if there are any work done on this frontier?
[05:23] <hanabishi> how can i tag people in this chat
[05:23] <hanabishi> ??
[05:23] <Squarism> sorry, OT - moveing to another channel
[05:24] <Bashing-om> !tab | hanabishi
[05:24] <sarp> Thank you for replying. My issue happens after login. Basically, there is a black screen, but the system is responsive, so I need to close the lid of the laptop for a few times before the screen starts running without interruptions. This black screen, close lid, open lid cycle goes on for like 3 times, and then it is stable, but I couldn't figure out a specific program/event that triggers it. It just happens after each login
[05:25] <smallville7123_> https://i.imgur.com/FyB7sSW.jpg
[05:25] <smallville7123_> https://i.imgur.com/BvEOQbk.jpg
[05:25] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: try then ' sudo apt purge runit ' . see then if we can re-install it .
[05:25] <sarp> I am a bit confused as to how to even figure out where the problem is coming from, so any tip is much appreciated
[05:26] <Bashing-om> sarp: ACPI issue ?? will not hurt to try : http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html .
[05:27] <orbur74dgmailca> hello
[05:28] <sarp> Bashing-om, thanks so much! I'll look into this. Also, as additional info, dmesg shows some weird messages. One that caught my eye was "vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device"
[05:30] <Bashing-om> sarp: Unplug perifials and see if the message goes away ??
[05:31] <sarp> Bashing-om, ok, will do, thank you!
[05:33] <Bashing-om> sarp: Might find that it is a USB3.0 device in a 2.0 USB port ?
[05:35] <sarp> Maybe! These are other messages from dmesg: usb usb3-port7: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[05:35] <sarp> [23083.081130] usb usb3-port7: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[05:35] <sarp> [23083.081175] usb usb3-port7: attempt power cycle
[05:35] <sarp> ..
[05:35] <sarp> [23085.245078] usb usb3-port7: unable to enumerate USB device
[05:36] <sarp> The only usb device plugged in is a bluetooth mouse adapter though, and it has been there for a long time. The laptop is not new, and the system started doing this very recently so I couldn't pinpoint the issue exactly
[05:40] <smallville7123_> This is the contents of a blank ubuntu container http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h3RHGt3phv/
[05:41] <hanabishi> Bashing-om, please help https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jqrnTghj3x/
[05:42] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: looking .
[05:45] <Bashing-om> hanabishi: is this a Virual Machine ?
[05:49] <hanabishi> Bashing-om, is this a Virual Machine
[05:49] <hanabishi> sorry
[05:49] <hanabishi> Bashing-om, isn't this a Virual Machine
[05:49] <hanabishi> all of my computer on UBUNTU
[05:49] <david037> is there anyway to use an old app on 18.04? Reason why comix app seems to be gone and replaced with mcomix, but it seems to not work properly and all cbr cbz etc archives say no images found
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> david037: always keep your system up to date= also packages
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> david037: older=unsecure
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> david037: a better approach: if you find something not working on a package, consider a new !bug or wishlist?
[05:52] <david037> lotuspsychje, yeah I figured that but with the app seeming broken no other way really to continue with reading them. I have both comics and magazines in those formats and I would have to either extract them all to read or convert to pdf
[05:53] <david037> true I could do that
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> david037: cbr opens with pdf viewer by default no?
[05:54] <smallville7123_> How do  i get a list of all installed packages
[05:54] <EriC^^> smallville7123_: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> david037: did you try mupdf also?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> david037: nice & lightweight pdf viewer
[05:56] <smallville7123_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dPCp8G5MKs/
[05:56] <david037> lotuspsychje, it defaulted to evince and it errors, but loading the files into archive manager shows the list of files and I can extract them
[05:59] <smallville7123_> If i want onlybadh, apt, binutils, and sshwhat packages do i need to uninstall
[05:59] <smallville7123_> only bash, *
[05:59] <smallville7123_> ssh what*
[06:02] <smallville7123_> Asi want to strip it down as much as possible while still being usable
[06:02] <smallville7123_> as i*
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> david037: ubuntu-bug evince
[06:04] <smallville7123_> preferably to the point where it is a mininal chroot with ssh capability
[06:04] <smallville7123_> nothing more nothing less
[06:06] <smallville7123_> But i have no idea which packages are required
[06:13] <Tazmain> Hi all, I am trying to do an upgrade and I keep getting '* Error: insufficient privileges to access the ebtables rulesets.'
[06:14] <Tazmain> I am running the upgrade as root
[06:15] <Bashing-om> hanasaki: Sorry, I do not know of a solution: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/runit/+bug/1584214
[06:16] <Squarism> anyone running CopyQ on ubuntu 17.10? Do you have a tray icon / "applet" ?
[06:27] <Bashing-om> hanasaki: See the bug report ^^  . I see no good solution ;(
[06:32] <Kashif> Can anyone tell me how to search for specific contents in IRC Date Log?
[06:32] <EriC^^> hey Kashif
[06:33] <Kashif> irc date log has html and txt files which one shall i open to find out particular conversation i am searching for.
[06:33] <Kashif> EriC^^:
[06:33] <Kashif> EriC^^: Thanks for Taggign me
[06:34] <EriC^^> Kashif: download the txt ones and use "grep "part of conversation" *.txt
[06:35] <EriC^^> grep -i "something" *.txt
[06:35] <Kashif> EriC^^: The day we were working on the recover, I was able to recover something but nothing that was recoverd made sense. Also, the computer shut down so i lost all the work. I am going to try it again to recover my lost stuff. Thanks
[06:36] <EriC^^> cool
[06:36] <aliasd> heyas... I am using 16.04 LTS, and I just tried to upgrade to the new LTS and found my architecture is no longer supported, so I guess I have to migrate to Debian, I have a lot of installed software, this install has been going for quite a number of years, and I am just wondering if there is some sort of specific Ubuntu Debian migration strategy I could use?
[06:37] <EriC^^> Kashif: the filenames wont make sense, the stuff should be there though
[06:37] <Kashif> EriC^^: Do I need to open each txt file to locate a conversation?
[06:37] <EriC^^> Kashif: do you know the date of the conversation?
[06:38] <Kashif> EriC^^: 15
[06:38] <Kashif> EriC^^: or 14
[06:38] <EriC^^> download the #ubuntu.txt of that date and search for it
[06:38] <Kashif> EriC^^: ok
[06:38] <EriC^^> gedit has a search feature
[06:39] <Guest92903> hi i was trying to set up nfs server and client.client was in vagrant.. now accidentally i have removed the nfs server instance, now in side vagrant if i do command like ls or df -h
[06:39] <Guest92903> it takes forever
[06:39] <Guest92903> what is the fix
[06:40] <ducasse> Kashif: or just open it in the browser and search with ctrl+f
[06:41] <spal> !help
[06:43] <Kashif> found it
[06:58] <aliasd> is there a better place maybe to ask my previous question?
[07:01] <littlepython> ls
[07:02] <EriC^^> . ..
[07:04] <ducasse> aliasd: to answer your original question, your best bet is to reinstall
[07:11] <aliasd> ducasse, Internet told me as such, but as most threads I found were from '09-'12, was hoping a bit there were some migration scripts someone had written by now :(
[07:12] <smallville7123_> How do i remove all packages except for 	
[07:12] <smallville7123_> aptitude markauto '~i!~nbash!~ncurl!~nsudo!~nopenssh*'
[07:13] <smallville7123_> As even after doint that im left with a bunch of packages
[07:13] <smallville7123_> In dpkg -l
[07:16] <michael2> smallville7123_: you want to remove all the packages which dont match '~i!~nbash!~ncurl!~nsudo!~nopenssh*' ?
[07:16] <smallville7123_> Yes
[07:16] <smallville7123_> Such as perl, vin, ect
[07:16] <smallville7123_> vim*
[07:17] <smallville7123_> xz-utils, wget, tar, unzip, sed, quota, and so on
[07:18] <michael2> so that pattern is saying "all the programs you have installed, which dont contain the patterns: *bash*, *curl*, *sudo*, *openssh* " ?
[07:19] <smallville7123_> sure
[07:19] <michael2> so you want to remove every package on the operating system?
[07:19] <smallville7123_> yup
[07:20] <michael2> did you try feeding that pattern into `dpkg --remove' ?
[07:20] <smallville7123_> No
[07:21] <aliasd> so, you don't just mean manually installed packages smallville7123_? You mean breaking your os and creating un unbootable system?
[07:21] <michael2> smallville7123_: are you sure you want to do this?
[07:22] <smallville7123_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9tVjwGWgcf/
[07:23] <smallville7123_> yes
[07:23] <michael2> aptitude search '~i!~nbash!~ncurl!~nsudo!~nopenssh*' -F '%p' | sudo dpkg --remove
[07:23] <michael2> sorry:
[07:23] <smallville7123_> it in a container anyway so it it breakes i can always re create the container and try again
[07:23] <smallville7123_> if it*
[07:23] <michael2> aptitude search '~i!~nbash!~ncurl!~nsudo!~nopenssh*' -F '%p' | xargs sudo dpkg --remove
[07:23] <smallville7123_> ok
[07:24] <michael2> I would test first with something like this:
[07:24] <michael2> aptitude search '~i!~nbash!~ncurl!~nsudo!~nopenssh*' -F '%p' | xargs sudo dpkg --list
[07:26] <smallville7123_> it wont remove them
[07:27] <michael2> whats it saying?
[07:27] <adac> Hi there! I'm on 16.04 but it seems that suddenly I cannot open firefox anymore on the menu (windows button). However when I click wqindows button and 3 then forexox opens as usually. But still then I can't focus the window with the mouse
[07:28] <smallville7123_> Too many errors
[07:28] <michael2> smallville7123_: which command did you run ? the --list or the --remove one?
[07:29] <smallville7123_> remove
[07:29] <adac> Hmm it seems I also cannot click on my right upper menu where the time is
[07:29] <michael2> smallville7123_: can you login as root and try?
[07:29] <adac> think I'mm remove this
[07:29] <smallville7123_> i am root
[07:29] <smallville7123_> already am*
[07:29] <michael2> ok
[07:30] <michael2> then did you remove the "sudo"?
[07:31] <smallville7123_> yes
[07:31] <ben7> hello
[07:32] <michael2> smallville7123_: can you paste the command you are running? also - can you just test the command with the dpkg --list variant first
[07:33] <geirha> fyi, aptitude remove takes the same argument as aptitude search, but the list of exceptions is far too short. You're telling it to remove libc, which more or less every package depend on
[07:34] <michael2> geirha: ah ok
[07:37] <smallville7123_> Ok
[07:37] <smallville7123_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K3mwTyc9Py/
[07:39] <michael2> smallville7123_: as geirha said you prob have to swap the `--list' option with `--remove --force' to override the dpkg refusing to break dependencies...
[07:40] <michael2> well geirha didn't say that exactly. but I think you know what I mean...
[07:41] <geirha> bash, curl, sudo and openssh also need libc
[07:41] <smallville7123_> aptitude search '~i!~nbash!~ncurl!~nsudo!~nopenssh*' -F '%p' gives me Unknown action type: pt
[07:44] <smallville7123_> https://i.imgur.com/DT4r5i6.jpg
[07:48] <smallville7123_> it was cus i had !n~apt instead of !~napt
[07:51] <smallville7123_> also !~nlibc*!~nopenssh* removes all lib* from the search results, why
[07:53] <smallville7123_> shouldnt it only remove libc* instead of lib*
[07:53] <michael2> because thats what !~nlib means  "not packages who's name contains "lib"
[07:53] <michael2> ah yes I think you're  right
[07:54] <smallville7123_> Aptitude 0.6.8.2
[07:54] <michael2> ah I know why
[07:54] <michael2> I think
[07:55] <michael2> try take away the *, i.e. !~nlibc!~nopenssh*
[07:55] <michael2> does that fix it?
[07:55] <smallville7123_> Same for !~nopenssh*!~nsudo exceptno packages are returned in automark
[07:56] <smallville7123_> when there should bepackages
[08:02] <smallville7123_> so this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p5PY8ckStB/
[08:08] <smallville7123> does apt have a aptitude -s equivilent
[08:09] <smallville7123> or does aptitude have an option to force the removal of packages
[08:11] <smallville7123> As i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pf23ymBj78/
[08:11] <smallville7123> with -s remove
[08:11] <smallville7123> and it confusing
[08:31] <MacroMan> I have multiple network connections. Can I control which connection a specific request goes over?
[08:31] <MacroMan> In this case, I want to wget over a secondary connection
[08:38] <the_drow> How do I uninstall an old kernel module?
[08:38] <the_drow> Since I upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04 I get "ERROR (dkms apport): binary package for evdi: 1.0.335 not found" when upgrading the kernel.
[08:38] <BlackDex> MacroMan: i think you need to add a static route for that specific IP and link it to the correct interface
[08:38] <the_drow> I installed the newest version of the driver.
[08:39] <BlackDex> the_drow: what happens if you do `dkms status --all` ?
[08:39] <MacroMan> BlackDex: I'll look into static routes, thanks
[08:40] <BlackDex> would be something like `sudo ip route add x.x.x.x/32 dev eno1` if i'm correct
[08:41] <the_drow> BlackDex, http://dpaste.com/0KYRESF
[08:41] <BlackDex> or, if that interface has a default route you could try `sudo ip route add x.x.x.x/32 via <gateway.ip>`
[08:43] <the_drow> It's added but the sources are not there
[08:44] <MacroMan> BlackDex: how do I specify the route when running a command?
[08:44] <the_drow> So sudo dkms remove evdi/1.0.335 --all did the trick
[08:44] <BlackDex> indee
[08:44] <BlackDex> d
[08:44] <BlackDex> that is what i just was typing :)
[08:45] <BlackDex> the_drow: you could be more specific for the kernel
[08:45] <the_drow> The module no longer exists in my filesystem
[08:45] <the_drow> I installed the newest version.
[08:45] <the_drow> Also, I'm getting /sbin/ldconfig.real: Warning: ignoring configuration file that cannot be opened: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/i386-linux-gnu_EGL.conf: No such file or directory
[08:45] <BlackDex> you could use -k 4.4.0-44-generic instead of --all
[08:45] <BlackDex> yea in your case there was no kernel attached to it
[08:46] <BlackDex> but when you have other version and only for specific kernels still build
 It's added but the sources are not there  # where do you look ? in  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder?
[08:46] <BlackDex> MacroMan: You don't have to
[08:46] <the_drow> oerheks, what do you mean?
[08:47] <BlackDex> after you have added the `ip route` all traffic to that IP will go through that interface/gateway
[08:47] <oerheks> you stated it is added to the sources, but you cannot find it, where did you look?
[08:47] <the_drow> oerheks, I built it manually from their website
[08:47] <the_drow> The older version was installed somehow on my system before that
[08:48] <MacroMan> BlackDex: I don't think I asked my question well enough. When I run wget, I need to be able to choose which interface it goes over. Can I do that?
[08:49] <BlackDex> MacroMan: No you can't as far as i know. So the only way to do that is by using a static route via `ip route add`
[08:49] <MacroMan> A static route is setting the route for an IP range or host?
[08:49] <BlackDex> yes
[08:49] <MacroMan> Damn
[08:50] <ppf> what are the default xenial package repos?
[08:50] <Rojola> hi
[08:51] <Rojola> I need help unmounting a busy harddrive (external HD)
[08:51] <BlackDex> MacroMan: hmm
[08:51] <BlackDex> MacroMan: Try to see if --bind-address will work for you
[08:51] <Rojola> lsof showed me many lines
[08:51] <Rojola> but no programs / commands
[08:51] <Rojola> what shall I do?
[08:51] <madsj> Rojola: mount, and then unmount
[08:52] <Rojola> madsj, I can not umount
[08:52] <MacroMan> BlackDex: I did try that, but it failed. I'm think I have a problem with my gsm connection
[08:52] <Rojola> madsj, I get the error "target is busy"
[08:52] <BlackDex> ah
[08:53] <BlackDex> then try the `ip route` suggestion ;)
[08:53] <madsj> If you have a terminal that is cd'ed into a directory, that's one source of that error
[08:53] <oerheks> ppf,  By default there will be a backup for your sources.list file on the same directory itself.
[08:53] <BlackDex> if that also doesn't work there is something with that connection indeed
[08:53] <oerheks> else https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:53] <madsj> or any window that is showing the content of anything under that drive.
[08:55] <ppf> oerheks: nice, thanks!
[08:59] <geodb27> People : hi !
[09:01] <saeid> hi
[09:01] <saeid> #java
[09:03] <saeid> hi
[09:04] <geodb27> I'm trying to find a way to do silent install on my ubuntu/xenial as one can do on redhat systems (e.g. silently install ldap-auth-client and configure it via command line arguments). However, every try I've made goes wrong. I can't imagine that ubuntu can't install and configure silently any package, provided it is fed with the right informations. Any clue for me to do as I want ?
[09:04] <tomeaton17> I am on ubuntu 17.10. How can I turn off the notifications when a new printer is connected to the network? I work in an office where printers are turned on and off alot, so I am getting spammed with these notifications
[09:05] <hanabishi_> Bashing-om are tou on??
[09:05] <geodb27> I've already seen that there is something to do with debconf-get-selections and debconf-set-selections, but while the first one succeeds (on another system on which the package I want is installed), the later fails with the values I get.
[09:17] <blackflow> tomeaton17: there's a notifications section in the Settings. See if there's anything about network printers.
[09:18] <tomeaton17> blackflow: Nothing specifically about printers, there is a network option
[09:19] <blackflow> tomeaton17: this was first result in google. see if it helps: https://askubuntu.com/questions/918462/ubuntu-17-04-printer-added-notifications-under-gnome
[09:22] <oerheks> gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.print-notifications active false # looks promising
[09:22] <oerheks> install dconf-editor for this
[09:22] <oerheks> !info dconf-editor
[09:22] <blackflow> tomeaton17: ^^^
[09:24] <tomeaton17> okay given that a go, will see what happens :)
[09:26] <tomeaton17> That didnt work :( do I need to reboot maybe
[09:26] <oerheks> maybe you need to logout/login again, not sure
[09:52] <akd> !work
[09:53] <iomari> greetings, I've setup 802.3ad bonding on 4 ports. Whenever I switch ports, I have no network until I rerun "netplan apply" again. Why is this?
[09:55] <Tuor> Hi, how can I find out if squid3 was build with ssl/tls support for my ubuntu 16.04. (I'm installing from default repo).
[09:56] <blackflow> Tuor: squid(8) manpage explains command line options, specifically -v
[10:00] <Tuor> thx.
[10:09] <sruli> how do i recreate .profile, .bash.. files in home dir? (deleted $HOME dir)
[10:10] <guiverc> sruli, `cp` new ones from /etc/skel/ I guess
[10:11] <sruli> guiverc: thanks
[10:13] <pinkisntwell__> How do I install the default desktop on 18.10?
[10:13] <EriC^^> !ubuntu+1 | pinkisntwell__
[10:14] <pinkisntwell__> Sorry, I meant 18.04
[10:14] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[10:14] <EriC^^> !info ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[10:14] <EriC^^> yeah that's it
[10:16] <blackflow> isn't it just   ubuntu-desktop ?
[10:17] <blackflow> ubuntu-gnome-desktop is transitional.   use the ubuntu-desktop package directly.
[10:21] <oerheks> i think ubuntu-gnome-desktop is correct
[10:22] <blackflow> so, default desktop on ubuntu is a transitional package in the universe repo? nah. :)
[10:24] <iomari> how can I run a script when I connect a network cable?
[10:26] <smallville7123> Welp first try failed
[10:26] <smallville7123> i get handshake failed when attempting to restart the container
[10:27] <oerheks> iomari, for what ubuntu version?
[10:29] <blackflow> smallville7123: what container, what are you doing, which ubuntu?
[10:33] <smallville7123> OpenVZ
[10:33] <smallville7123> 14.0
[10:35] <blackflow> smallville7123: there were three questions there :)   but, anyway, I don't think OpenVZ is officially supported on Ubuntu.
[10:35] <blackflow> (at any rate, I wouldn't be able to help you with it anyway)
[10:38] <deem> I think they ditched openvz support after 8.04
[10:39] <blackflow> something like that, long time ago anyway
[10:48] <nightwarrior_xxx> nick nightwarrior-xxx
[10:49] <nightwarrior_xxx> NICK nightwarrior-xxx
[10:49] <nightwarrior_xxx> Can anyone help me with changing the nickname?
[10:50] <JimBuntu> nightwarrior_xxx, #freenode
[10:50] <guiverc> nightwarrior_xxx, put a "/" at the start of /nick command
[10:51] <dean> i have windows installed on a different drive as my xubuntu install, and any time i run windows after installing xubuntu, the ubuntu option becomes unavailable
[10:51] <dean> in my uefi
[10:51] <nightwarrior_xxx> guiverc, I did that but nothing happened
[10:51] <dean> is there a way to fix this?
[10:51] <dean> boot-repair doesn't fix it
[10:52] <nightwarrior_xxx> dean,grub menu is coming or not?
[10:52] <dean> nope
[10:52] <dean> grub is gone
[10:53] <dean> i can select windows from gub
[10:53] <dean> grub
[10:53] <dean> but once i do, grub never shows
[10:53] <dean> so, i can access xubuntu as often as i want until i boot up windows once
[10:53] <dean> and then it's gone
[10:54] <nightwarrior_xxx> dean,m=so you means grub is shown only once ?
[10:54] <dean> nope
[10:54] <dean> it'll show forever, so long as i never boot windows
[10:54] <dean> but once i boot windows, grub is no longer shown
[10:54] <dean> and it isn't in my uefi options
[10:55] <nightwarrior_xxx> dean,then you can do one thing install grub menu again
[10:55] <dean> and i know that my xubuntu is installed with efi because i installed it with a efi partition
[10:55] <dean> with boot-repair?
[10:55] <dean> i've done that over a half dozen times
[10:55] <dean> maybe a dozen
[10:56] <deem> dean: Windows overwrites the Boot record everytime
[10:56] <deem> That's a feature, because it detects its record as "broken"
[10:57] <dean> uh, how do i dual boot then?
[10:57] <nightwarrior_xxx> dean,see there are few things to dual boot
[10:57] <dean> i dual booted fine back in '04
[10:57] <dean> sure with mbr
[10:57] <deem> I can't remember exactly, cause I don't use dual boot anymore
[10:57] <nightwarrior_xxx> disable quick boot
[10:58] <Cfhowlett> !quietirc
[10:58] <dean> what does quick boot do?
[10:58] <dean> cause i can still access my uefi bios
[10:58] <EriC^> deem: there must be an option in your bios to change ubuntu to top of the list
[10:58] <EriC^> sorry dean not deem
[10:58] <dean> it doesn't show in my bios
[10:58] <dean> it isn't an option
[10:58] <EriC^> dean: try setting the admin password you might get extra options
[10:59] <EriC^> acer's like that, not making this up :D
[10:59] <hanabishi_> please help
[10:59] <hanabishi_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7CGkR3PdMK/
[10:59] <dean> i have an asrock z77 extreme4
[10:59] <dean> still, i guess i could try it
[10:59] <dean> gah, this is turning into dozens of hours
[10:59] <dean> figure it'd be simple
[11:00] <dean> figured*
[11:00] <EriC^> dean: did i help you earlier in the week?
[11:00] <dean> yeah
[11:00] <EriC^> ok, the motherboard looked familiar
[11:00] <dean> but it didn't work
[11:00] <EriC^> dean: what didn't
[11:00] <dean> i decided to reinstall xubuntu to see if that would work
[11:00] <deem> dean: maybe this can help you: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2294337
[11:00] <dean> but it didn't
[11:01] <EriC^> dean: what did we do? did we switch the windows and ubuntu files?
[11:01] <EriC^> cause that'll almost certainly work
[11:01] <Cfhowlett> This ain't windows.  Stop reinstalling to fix things
[11:01] <nightwarrior_xxx> dean,you have to do dual boot?
[11:02] <dean> no, we didn't finish
[11:02] <EriC^> dean: yeah i'd remember a uefi dead-end, i've never really had one *yet*
[11:02] <dean> Eric^ i generated a lot of log files
[11:03] <dean> nightwarrior_xxx do you have a better way?
[11:03] <EriC^> dean: are you booted in ubuntu right now?
[11:03] <dean> no
[11:03] <dean> this is one thing i do know that might be messing things up
[11:04] <dean> i have ubuntu files in my windows drive
[11:04] <dean> boot files
[11:04] <dean> are they supposed to be there?
[11:04] <EriC^> yeah
[11:04] <EriC^> in the efi partition
[11:04] <EriC^> dean: boot into ubuntu or a live usb and come back here
[11:04] <dean> okay, just a thought, cause my first install failed
[11:05] <dean> i can't boot into ubuntu
[11:05] <hanabishi_> Please help
[11:05] <hanabishi_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7CGkR3PdMK/
[11:05] <dean> i can use the live cd
[11:05] <hanabishi_> i can't install runit
[11:05] <EriC^> remember check the bios, set an admin password and see if you get more options
[11:05] <dean> i'll check
[11:05] <EriC^> k try the bios, then live usb if that fails, boot the live usb in uefi mode though
[11:05] <dean> i only have like an hour
[11:05] <dean> my usb has been failing to boot too now for some reason
[11:05] <EriC^> np we can be done in 10mins max, i've to make lunch too
[11:05] <Cfhowlett> Wubi?
[11:05] <dean> so my boot-repair usb doesn't work
[11:06] <dean> anyway, be right back in ubuntu live cd
[11:06] <EriC^> k
[11:06] <crypto> Hey, i just downloaded a torrent form a russian guy who is very eager to know when i have installed his shit. ClamAV says the .sh and other files are fine. But in still nervous. Any tips?
[11:07] <JimBuntu> crypto, run it on a fresh install that you plan to wipe after. ( if you must )
[11:08] <JimBuntu> crypto, no networking enabled either. No bluetooth/etc. Depending on how paranoid you are, trash the hardware after.
[11:08] <crypto> yeah thats a good tip. how about a solution that doesnt reqiure me to install linux on another hdd? :P
[11:08] <blackflow> trash the hardware after, ain't joking. IME and all that carp.....
[11:08] <blackflow> seriously though.
[11:09] <crypto> throw it in the trash? basically? xD
[11:09] <blackflow> well you can't be sure, can you? unless you have fully open sourced mobo whith no hidden minixes lurking from random chips.
[11:10] <Cfhowlett> Crypto some good reason you getting files from Vlad and not from the repos?
[11:10] <crypto> hmm i almost forgot about VM's what if i just installed a VM and tested it there? should be fine right?
[11:10] <JimBuntu> blackflow, well, that eliminates Intel processors, lol
[11:10] <blackflow> Cfhowlett: I resent that stereotypical naming!
[11:10] <blackflow> crypto: no, can't be sure with VMs either. it's a popular myth that VMs offer any kind of guaranteed security.
[11:11] <blackflow> I mean just look at all the qemu/kvm/xen vulns published last year alone...
[11:11] <DrManhattan> 2700x vs 8400 = Box is for deep learning programming and gaming - has a 1080ti - which CPU would you guys recommend and why?
[11:11] <DrManhattan> If I could bother you all for your opinions
[11:12] <crypto> Well, Vlad, if he is a honest guy, has some cool shit if it works. i know alot of cool russians, but never spoke to this one.
[11:12] <DrManhattan> My current setup is dual x5650 for 24 logical cores with 24gb ECC ram, same video card
[11:13] <crypto> Fucking VM's
[11:13] <crypto> Well ill just wont take the chance then...
[11:13] <DrManhattan> OMG, I'm so sorry guys, I thought I was in Hardware
[11:14] <JimBuntu> DrManhattan, more GPUs for deep learning.
[11:14] <crypto> fucking hell. Or acutally my old laptop i could try it on. PROBLEM IS: if it works, it can still be malicious!
[11:14] <blackflow> crypto: language....
[11:14] <crypto> english
[11:15] <JimBuntu> crypto, blackflow means, please don't curse/swear/etc.
[11:15] <DrManhattan> JimBuntu, I want to learn more before I spend the money - by the time I am in need of more GPU power, there will be new generations of cards
[11:15] <DrManhattan> at the very least I'll be able to afford a GRID card on the cheap
[11:15] <crypto> ah sorry for that
[11:16] <dean_> i'm back
[11:17] <EriC^> wb
[11:17] <dean_> so a password didn't get me any more options
[11:17] <EriC^> any luck with the bios?
[11:17] <EriC^> k
[11:17] <dean_> and i already had fast boot turned off
[11:17] <EriC^> type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:19] <dean_> says i can't access /dev/ sr0
[11:19] <dean_> read only
[11:19] <dean_> which is weird since that's all i need
[11:19] <crypto> Any programs that anyone would recommend to scan possibly malicious files?
[11:20] <dean_> then it started mounting drives
[11:20] <hanabishi_> hello everyone, to day i'm solve a problem about can't run runit for git and git-all
[11:21] <hanabishi_> then i'm fix it by https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WrxsxpCvqx/
[11:21] <dean_> http://termbin.com/7wq3
[11:23] <blackflow> crypto: any such programs rely on databases of _known_ malware, so..... still can't be sure :)
[11:25] <JimBuntu> crypto, ClamAV, ESET NOD32, Sophos, Comodo.  However, I don't think any of these will help against code that is simply malicious/bad.
[11:26] <crypto> ah fudge
[11:27] <crypto> Well... thanks for the help anyways. i will try to install these files on my old laptop. And just feel it through and hope for the best.
[11:27] <JimBuntu> crypto, good luck!
[11:28] <EriC^> dean_: i'll brb in 10mins, sorry
[11:29] <crypto> Thanks!
[11:29] <dean_> okay
[11:29] <dean_> http://termbin.com/3nqa
[11:42] <EriC^> dean_: back, type "sudo mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt"
[11:42] <dean_> okay, did
[11:43] <EriC^> dean_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[11:44] <dean_> EriC^: okay
[11:44] <EriC^> dean_: sudo chroot /mnt
[11:45] <dean_> EriC^: okay
[11:45] <strive> Gotta love those one-liners.
[11:45] <blackflow> you forgot /dev/shm
[11:45] <EriC^> dean_: mount -a
[11:45] <blackflow> ideally, just     mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc; mount -R /dev /mnt/dev  and mount -R /sys /mnt/sys
[11:46] <EriC^> /run is needed for apt
[11:47] <blackflow> it needn't be hosts' /run tho
[11:47] <EriC^> k
[11:48] <blackflow> in fact, iirc it shouldn't even, due to clashes with services using /run outside of the chroot
[11:49] <EriC^> dean_: done?
[11:49] <dean_> yeah
[11:49] <dean_> sorry, thought i was the one waiting :/
[11:50] <EriC^> dean_: (ls -lR /boot/efi; lsblk) | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:51] <dean_> http://termbin.com/9ie9
[11:54] <EriC^> dean_: type "cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}"
[11:55] <dean_> okay
[11:56] <EriC^> dean_: cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[11:57] <dean_> okay
[11:58] <EriC^> dean_: sed -i 's/bootmgfw.efi/bootmgfw.efi.backup/' /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft
[11:59] <dean_> okay
[12:00] <EriC^> dean_: update-grub
[12:00] <dean_> done
[12:00] <EriC^> dean_: try rebooting
[12:01] <dean_> okay
[12:12] <dean> so, i'm missing files i guess
[12:13] <EriC^> dean: what happened?
[12:13] <dean> it tried to auto boot into windows i'm guessing
[12:13] <EriC^> ok and what did it say
[12:13] <dean> but it said that the efi files were missing
[12:14] <dean> i tried to take a picture but it was too short a time
[12:14] <EriC^> wow, it must check if it's genuinley the windows efi file
[12:14] <dean> it was like boot/efi/grubs
[12:14] <EriC^> aha, did it complain about grubx64.efi ?
[12:14] <dean> yeah
[12:14] <EriC^> i've seen that with my hp, it continued to boot though
[12:15] <EriC^> ok, we can copy grub to the efi dir and it should be ok then
[12:15] <dean> i think it said that it was missing though
[12:15] <EriC^> dean: are you in the live usb right now?
[12:15] <dean> live cd
[12:16] <dean> $WINDOWS.~BT/boot/?
[12:17] <EriC^> no
[12:17] <EriC^> dean_: type "sudo mount /dev/sdd2 /mnt"
[12:18] <dean> okay
[12:18] <EriC^> dean_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[12:18] <dean> okay
[12:19] <EriC^> dean: sudo chroot /mnt
[12:19] <dean> okay
[12:19] <EriC^> dean: mount -a
[12:20] <dean> okay
[12:21] <EriC^> dean: try "grub-install"
[12:21] <dean> installation finished. no problems
[12:21] <EriC^> dean: try "ls -l /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi"
[12:22] <dean> -rwx------ 1 root root 1116024 Jun 18 05:21 /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
[12:22] <EriC^> dean: nice
[12:22] <EriC^> dean: try "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"
[12:22] <dean> shall i try once more then?
[12:23] <dean> ah, okay
[12:23] <EriC^> no
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:25] <EriC^> dean: ok give it a shot rebooting
[12:25] <dean> okay
[12:26] <EriC^> dean: if it doesn't work, try to enable secureboot it might work then
[12:27] <dean_> so, i can boot into ubuntu again
[12:27] <dean_> and it's option 1
[12:28] <dean_> there's also an option for the windows boot
[12:28] <dean_> but that one's always messed up my bootloader
[12:28] <dean_> i figured i'd at least try to boot before the option might disappear
[12:29] <dean_> i'm going back in to inspect my bios a bit more carefully
[12:32] <dean> should i try using the windows bootloader?
[12:32] <dean> or do you think that'd delete grub?
[12:32] <EriC^> yeah try using it
[12:33] <EriC^> if it deletes it that'd be pretty impressive
[12:33] <dean> okay
[12:36] <dean> it looks like it's working
[12:36] <EriC^> hmm nice
[12:36] <dean> so what does all this mean?
[12:36] <dean> haha
[12:37] <EriC^> i guess a happy ending
[12:37] <dean> what did you do though?  change paths?
[12:37] <dean> moved some files around?
[12:37] <EriC^> yeah i switched the efi files so the bios thinks its booting windows
[12:38] <EriC^> and edited grub to look for the alternate name for windows
[12:38] <dean> windows update shouldn't mess around with them?
[12:38] <dean> oh
[12:38] <EriC^> if you run some windows updates in the future, it might reverse what we did, depending on the updates
[12:38] <dean> i guess i'll see
[12:38] <EriC^> it's pretty rare but happens sometimes, then you'll need to repeat the steps
[12:39] <dean> okay
[12:39] <dean> well, thanks for all the help
[12:39] <EriC^> no problem
[12:39] <dean> this is rare though?
[12:39] <EriC^> windows update reversing?
[12:39] <dean> i just figured that it'd be easy to dual boot on a separate drive
[12:39] <mingdao> How do I start the 18.04 Live USB without an X server ... just console?
[12:39] <EriC^> i'd say maybe once a year i have to switch the files again
[12:40] <EriC^> mingdao: try adding "text" to the grub line
[12:40] <dean> i guess uefi messes that up though
[12:40] <dean> alright, well have a good night/day
[12:40] <EriC^> dean: yeah the manufacturers play hard ball sometimes
[12:40] <EriC^> you too
[12:40] <dean> bye
[12:40] <EriC^> bye
[12:40] <mingdao> EriC^: after /casper/vmlinuz.efi ?
[12:41] <mingdao> my mouse/kbd work there to edit the grub entry, but don't work once the desktop is loaded
[12:41] <EriC^> mingdao: yeah, or try "systemd.unit=multi-user.target"
[12:42] <EriC^> mingdao: probably "text" doesn't work anymore
[12:42] <mingdao> EriC^: yeah, just FYI ...  adding text it still goes to GUI
[12:45] <mingdao> EriC^: "systemd.unit=multi-user.target" got me to ubuntu login: but kbd still doesn't work
[12:45] <mingdao> no joy, time running out
[12:45] <mingdao> this morning
[12:48] <testibot> ?
[12:48] <mingdao> EriC^: trying with PS/2 kbd ... what user/pass at that login?
[12:49] <mnr200> Can I add gpg/pgp key manually to the gpg key file?
[12:50] <EriC^> mingdao: should be user:flavor name password empty
[12:50] <EriC^> user: ubuntu/xubuntu etc
[12:51] <mingdao> EriC^: tks
[12:55] <TabMasher> Can someone suggest a decent BluRay burning software for Ubuntu?
[12:56] <klemax> Hello
[13:01] <klemax> I have got a problem after upgrading from 17.10 to 18.04. That happens on only KDE environment. After suspending, when the pc comes back, sddm freezes and I see white screen. I checked the logs and saw some ati drivers error there.
[13:02] <klemax> I am not sure if the problem is a kernel issue or kde.
[13:03] <ppf> when i try to have a socket listening on port 80, why do i get a Permission denied back?
[13:04] <klemax> Its denied by apache?
[13:05] <ppf> ?
[13:06] <Pici> ppf: only the root/sudo user can listen on ports lower than 1024
[13:06] <ppf> hmm, darn
[13:07] <ppf> so i have to start the process as root?
[13:07] <ppf> Pici: that's not gonna happen. is there a way to disable the restriction
[13:08] <leftyfb> ppf: use a different port. 8080 for instance
[13:08] <ppf> can't, clients use 80 and are not under my control
[13:08] <leftyfb> then it needs to run as root
[13:09] <leftyfb> or with root priv
[13:09] <ppf> it's some python program, i'm not runnign that as root ;)
[13:10] <Pici> ppf: the other way is to setup a reverse proxy from your httpd server. so remote clients hit 80, and it 'redirects' to 8080 internally
[13:11] <ppf> it's just a twisted app, not a fully fledged webserver
[13:11] <ppf> i think i'll just PREROUTE
[13:12] <ppf> well, plus the lo equivalent
[13:15] <Pici> ppf: ah, okay, that works too.
[13:16] <dave666> Hi all,
[13:16] <dave666> I am trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 within Ubuntu.
[13:17] <dave666> As part of the upgrade, it downloads many packages. Some it fails on, and then the upgrade fails.
[13:17] <ppf> dave666: how/why does it fail on the packages
[13:17] <dave666> I have started to check the files it tries to download and fails on, and it appears that the file might be missing from the za.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:18] <ppf> switch to another mirror then
[13:18] <ppf> that can happen sometimes during deployment
[13:18] <ppf> !paste please
[13:19] <dave666> So, I was wondering how I go about checking if the files are really there.
[13:20] <dave666> ok - I gotta go to a meeting quick. brb.
[13:22] <leftyfb> dave666: change your mirror to archive.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <kappa1> I had a program running emitting output to the terminal when my pc crashed. Is it possible to see the last emitted output after starting up my system again?
[13:23] <leftyfb> no
[13:24] <kappa1> are you sure?
[13:24] <leftyfb> kappa1: unless you had it logging to a file or to kernel messages, then no
[13:25] <kappa1> ok thanks
[13:41] <sphinx1> test
[13:42] <sphinx1> yay, it works
[13:52] <mistralo1> Anyone know how I can stop ubuntu from powering down external drives?
[13:53] <memphisto> mistralo1: usb ?
[13:54] <mistralo1> yeah
[13:54] <mistralo1> sata in a usb cradle
[13:56] <memphisto> maybe this can help
[13:56] <memphisto> https://askubuntu.com/questions/185274/how-can-i-disable-usb-autosuspend-for-a-specific-device
[13:58] <mistralo1> memphisto: umm thats for a mouse?
[13:59] <oerheks> In "Disks" utility, choose your relevant drive, then press Ctrl + e to open Drive Settings, in Standby tab, you can edit standby timeout settings.
[13:59] <mistralo1> no gui ;)
[13:59] <oerheks> really, how interesting
[13:59] <memphisto> mouse as example , but you put the device id
[14:00] <mistralo1> memphisto: yeah but from my understanding that coontrols the usb device not the disk
[14:00] <mistralo1> in this case the usb device does not power down. The disk does
[14:00] <memphisto> is it a usb disk ?
[14:00] <mistralo1> its a 4 bay usb cradle
[14:01] <memphisto> and when power management kicks in you loose all 4 disks , right?
[14:01] <mistralo1> no none
[14:01] <memphisto> what happens then ?
[14:01] <mistralo1> the hard disk spins down and takes 10-15 seconds to spin up again when i access a file
[14:01] <mistralo1> is the usb device powered off. It could cause file system corruption + fschk on remount ;)
[14:02] <e-stolarz> #Goldsmith
[14:02] <mistralo1> this isn't something that Linux enables on a disk by default. This is something ubuntu turns on somewhere I want to know where so I can turn it off
[14:04] <memphisto> mistralo1: use hdparm -B 254 /dev/xxx
[14:05] <mistralo1> memphisto: can't use hdparm is a "scsi" on the usb layer
[14:05] <mistralo1> I can use sdparm. But then ubuntu ranodmly changes these back
[14:05] <memphisto> there is sdparm
[14:06] <mistralo1> so how to make that "stick" ?
[14:06] <mistralo1> cause ubunutu somewhere keeps turning it back on again
[14:08] <memphisto> well, there is /etc/rc.local but i think you won't be using that
[14:08] <mistralo1> naaa not enough.... Want it for all disk ever plugged in
[14:10] <memphisto> uff
[14:10] <memphisto> then udev
[14:11] <spreeuw> you may be able to write it to the disk firmware
[14:11] <spreeuw> forgot
[14:12] <spreeuw> havent touched disks ina while lol
[14:12] <spreeuw> maybe itys part of a general powersaving profile
[14:13] <spreeuw> on a plain linux you fall back to disk firmware defaults
[14:13] <mistralo1> yeah which is "Don't spin down"
[14:13] <spreeuw> and driver hardcoded defaults
[14:15] <spreeuw> theres also sdparm
[14:15] <mistralo1> yeah i get that
[14:15] <mattfly> hi im having a serious issue with apt-get update
[14:15] <mistralo1> but i set it with sdparm and ubuntu has something that switches it back later
[14:15] <spreeuw> could also be the usb layer
[14:16] <mattfly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SThrNGQRKK/
[14:17] <spreeuw> Disk Utility -> select HDD drive -> click on the "More actions..." icon on the top right corner -> Drive settings...
[14:17] <mattfly> everything is giving this   Couldn't create temporary file /tmp/apt.conf.K5jJyF for passing config to apt-key  gpg error
[14:17] <spreeuw> gnome-disk-utility
[14:18] <mattfly> but if i cd to /tmp and touch anything it gives no error
[14:18] <Anticom> Hi all. I'm trying to set up my machine (16.04) to use ipsec vpn. I've installed network-manager-vpnc-gnome and i was able to add a connection. However now I'm stuck since i need to enter a PSK somewhere but i can't find an option for that in the dialog. I've read about editing /etc/ipsec.secrets however this file seems to be related to strongswan. Now what should i do? Uninstall vpnc and use strongswan instead or is there a way to get this working with
[14:18] <Anticom> vpnc?
[14:18] <mistralo1> spreeuw: its a headless box with no gui
[14:18] <Anticom> I'm refering to https://askubuntu.com/questions/586751/where-to-add-the-pre-shared-key-for-the-server-authentication-with-network-manag btw
[14:18] <spreeuw> https://askubuntu.com/questions/39760/how-can-i-control-hdd-spin-down-time
[14:19] <Anticom> is network-manager-l2tp-gnome a viable alternative mentioned in the 2nd answer? It's comming from a ppa and the package is related to vpn so i'm a little concerned
[14:19] <memphisto> mattfly: you are missing sticky bit in /tmp
[14:19] <mattfly> how  to fix?
[14:20] <memphisto> chmod 1777 /tmp
[14:20] <Anticom> mattfly: man chmod
[14:21] <thescientist> !search The Salt of the Earth
[14:22] <mattfly> I dont get, what should i run
[14:22] <Anticom> mattfly: memphisto gave you the straight answer... i gave you the answer to learn the concept
[14:23] <mattfly> still dont have it fixed...
[14:23] <Anticom> probably because /tmp is not owned by you but root
[14:23] <mattfly> im running that as root
[14:24] <mattfly> should I chmod 777 /tmo ?
[14:24] <mattfly>  i mean tmp
[14:24] <memphisto> chmod 1777 /tmp  like one seven seven seven
[14:25] <mattfly> oh
[14:25] <mattfly> thanks
[14:26] <Anticom> btw anyone on my question?
[14:27] <memphisto> Anticom: can't help with that...sorry
[14:30] <dave666> Lets try again - Hi all,
[14:30] <dave666> I am trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 within Ubuntu.
[14:30] <dave666> As part of the upgrade, it downloads many packages. Some it fails on, and then the upgrade fails.
[14:30] <dave666> I have started to check the files it tries to download and fails on, and it appears that the file might be missing from the za.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:30] <dave666> So, I was wondering how I go about checking if the files are really there.
[14:30] <dave666> I had a look at one file:
[14:31] <memphisto> change the repo
[14:31] <memphisto> and try again
[14:31] <dave666> http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/scala/scala-doc_2.11.6-6_all.deb
[14:32] <memphisto> my shift is over. i'm off . have a nice day
[14:32] <dave666> Thanks memphisto! Cheers
[14:32] <dave666> Have a good one too
[14:34] <Anticom> dave666: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenialUpgrades ?
[14:35] <MibixFox> is there a way to restart the service that manages all the disk I have mounted without restarting?
[14:35] <MibixFox> one of my drives is no longer responding
[14:35] <leftyfb> MibixFox: just unmount it
[14:35] <MibixFox> wont even let me unmount
[14:35] <leftyfb> MibixFox: what error?
[14:36] <MibixFox> unmount failed operation not permitted?
[14:36] <dave666> Anticom: I have now read it. Thanks.
[14:36] <Anticom> dave666: check back if you have any further issues
[14:36] <leftyfb> MibixFox: use sudo
[14:36] <Anticom> dist-upgrades are always cumbersome
[14:37] <MibixFox> ehh i was trying to use the gui
[14:37]  * Anticom is on xenial still for that very reason
[14:37] <dave666> I'm going to try those instructions - and will be back with either thanks or a sad story. :)
[14:37] <leftyfb> MibixFox: don't
[14:40] <MibixFox> i dont know its device name just its mount point
[14:40] <MibixFox> guess ill just restart
[14:41] <Anticom> Okay i got the VPN issue sorted. The PSK could be entered into the group pw and it magically worked
[14:42] <Anticom> Another issue i'm faced with now is connecting to a windows 10 network share. I never actually configured smb myself so any advice / tutorial / reference etc. ?
[14:44] <leftyfb> MibixFox: sudo umount /path/to/mount/point
[14:45] <MibixFox> yeah it didnt work
[14:45] <leftyfb> MibixFox: what error?
[14:45] <leftyfb> MibixFox: "didn't work" doesn't help
[14:45] <MibixFox> couldnt find the mount point i guess i forget the error already reset
[14:45] <MibixFox> lol
[14:45] <Travis9201> I am having problems with the kernel in ubuntu 18.04 LTS I would like to downgrade the kernel but I do not know how to in ubuntu... Could I do it with a live USB and Mount the Installion I just did with the terminal I just installed it and I did an update...
[14:45] <leftyfb> MibixFox: "mount" will show you all the mount points
[14:46] <MibixFox> i had the mount point
[14:46] <leftyfb> Travis9201: there's no reason you can't install a kernel in the running OS
[14:46] <leftyfb> MibixFox: you said, "couldnt find the mount point". That tells me you didn't use the correct mount point
[14:46] <MibixFox> i think it was already dismounted or something
[14:47] <MibixFox> i had the correct /mnt/ adddress
[14:47] <MibixFox> i thought i needed the /dev/ address
[14:47] <Travis9201> leftyfb : If I could I would but it seems after the update I did seems when I restarted it hangs on the logo and goes into a hibernation state and it shuts down I had this problem before but I don't know how to change the kernel in Ubuntu...
[14:50] <plasmoduck> Warning: Permanently added 'github.com,192.30.255.112' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[14:50] <plasmoduck> How do I undo this?
[14:50] <plasmoduck> I followed this instruction: git clone git@github.com:dotzero/RaspberryPi-MOTD.git and it looks like it done something dodgy
[14:50] <plasmoduck> I added some rsa trusted host
[14:51] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: it's just a public key in ~/.ssh/known_hosts. ... it's not "dodgy" at all
[14:51] <MibixFox> mm lovely the drive isnt showing up even after a restart
[14:52] <plasmoduck> ssh
[14:52] <plasmoduck> but im just trying to download something from git
[14:52] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: cloning a github repo does nothing other than copy the repo to the $CWD
[14:52] <plasmoduck> so ive allowed someone access to ssh into me?
[14:52] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: yes, github will use ssh
[14:52] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: no
[14:52] <plasmoduck> ok
[14:52] <plasmoduck> how do I remove it anyhow
[14:52] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: you used ssh to clone the repo. As opposed to http
[14:53] <plasmoduck> id rather just use the clone url method
[14:53] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: undo what?
[14:53] <plasmoduck> The command I used was: git clone git@github.com:dotzero/RaspberryPi-MOTD.git
[14:53] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: you want to delete the repo and reclone it used http? What do you think that will accomplish?
[14:53] <plasmoduck> and it added a key
[14:53] <plasmoduck> I want to removed the allowed stored key from my computer
[14:53] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: it's just a public thumbprint of the repo
[14:54] <plasmoduck> yes but have never used this method, nor seen this before, how do I undo hat I have down?
[14:54] <leftyfb> jeeze
[14:54] <Anticom> Basically i'd like to have the share mounted somewhere if available but it might not be if i'm not in the vpn
[14:54] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: first, you take off the tin foil hat. Then you delete the entry from ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[14:55]  * Anticom likes tin foil hats
[14:55] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: https://www.ssh.com/ssh/host-key  some light reading
[14:57] <leftyfb> plasmoduck: The point is, there's nothing nefarious or malicious about having the host_key of github.com pulled down onto your system with all the other host keys of every device you've ever connected to via ssh.
[14:58] <Travis9201> Could anyone tell me how to downgrade my kernel please I am having some trouble with the updates that i just did its hanging up on the logo when I restart my computer... I would need some helpl please thanks
[14:59] <Travis9201> if I can do it on a live usb with ubuntu on it that would be really helpful thanks
[14:59] <leftyfb> Travis9201: http://karlcode.owtelse.com/blog/2017/03/13/reverting-to-a-previous-kernel/
[14:59]  * SporkWitch has a well-commented known_hosts file in his configs git repo, signs the commit whenever he updates / adds / removes a computer
[15:03] <Travis9201> leftyfb: Thanks
[15:07] <sh0t> hi guys I upgraded to ubuntu 18.04, now I have some problems in connecting to eduroam. I set it up as usual, but now when it tries to connect it says something like "Password or encryption keys are required to access the wifi"
[15:07] <sh0t> any ideas?
[15:11] <Travis9201> leftyfb: Linux 4.15.0.20-generic is doing the same thing that linux 4.15.0.23-generic is doing its hanging up on when its loading what I did when you send me a the URL I don't understand the Installion was find I don't know what the problem...
[15:13] <HyP3r> hello, a short question about 50unattended-upgrades: I have a foreign source: "deb http://build.openvpn.net/debian/openvpn/stable xenial main" and want that packages from there are also updated automatically
[15:13] <HyP3r> How can I write this in the "Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins" <-?
[15:13] <leftyfb> Travis9201: 4.15.0.23 was released in May. I doubt verymuch your issue has anything to do with your kernel
[15:14] <Travis9201> leftyfb: I had the same thing happen in Arch Linux I had to install the Linux-LTS and always place the opition in the grub and it work find I don't know if I have to do the same thing in Ubuntu
[15:15] <leftyfb> Travis9201: what option?
[15:17] <yecril71pl1> Hi, I have a problem with screen locking on 18.04.  I told GNOME shell not to lock the screen but it still does.  Moreover, I am unable to unlock it back (except by using loginctl).
[15:19] <Travis9201> leftyfb: What Option? The Linux-LTS I installed thow the terminal while installing Arch-Linux it was to do with the Kernel I know what the problem is... But am not understanding if I could do the same thing while in the Ubuntu Live Installion... I just need to know how to mount and get into the User Account While in the Live USB Image
[15:21] <chron0s_> hi guys, i have a problem. I kinda fucked up my SD Card and I cant mount it anymore. So i tried to format it via gparted and fdisk however it seems like the card cant be found(fdisk -l) and i get an i/o error. I can see it via lsblk. Anyone got an idea ? :/
[15:22] <webmind> how did you fuck it up?
[15:22] <chron0s_> i copied some binary into the rootfs.
[15:22] <chron0s_> as descriped here: https://github.com/OP-TEE/build/blob/master/docs/rpi3.md#57-other-root-filesystems-than-initramfs-based
[15:25] <chron0s_> it is diveded into 2 parts boot and rootfs and i kinda exchanged the binary files in the rootfs. the boot partion is still mounted
[15:26] <Travis9201> After Mounting The /dev/sda1 in Live-USB Ubuntu How can I access the Username or FileSystem to getinto my installition that I created or installed and install things throw the terminal
[15:26] <Travis9201> while in the USB-Live
[15:29] <chron0s_> @webmind, any ideas ? :(
[15:31] <HyP3r> Anyone?
[15:38] <JimBuntu> HyP3r, https://askubuntu.com/questions/87849/how-to-enable-silent-automatic-updates-for-any-repository
[15:39] <HyP3r> JimBuntu: ok thanks
[15:42] <guest-jnmTUe> hello
[15:42] <guest-jnmTUe> oi
[15:42] <guest-jnmTUe> oi
[15:42] <guest-jnmTUe> eae
[15:42] <guest-jnmTUe> ae
[15:43] <leftyfb> guest-jnmTUe: can we help you with something?
[15:44] <chron0s_> hi guys, i have a problem. I kinda fucked up my SD Card and I cant mount it anymore. So i tried to format it via gparted and fdisk however it seems like the card cant be found(fdisk -l) and i get an i/o error. I can see it via lsblk. Anyone got an idea ? :/
[15:44] <chron0s_> the sd card is divided into 2 partions
[15:45] <Kardis> is there a way to use my graphic gard with nvidia 304 driver?
[15:45] <chron0s_> and the rootfs is not mountable anymore
[15:45] <guest-jnmTUe> y
[15:45] <guest-jnmTUe> i need
[15:45] <guest-jnmTUe> internet point
[15:46] <Kardis> free driver not work very well
[15:46] <Kardis> and no support for my graphics card
[15:50] <sh0t> hi guys I upgraded to ubuntu 18.04, now I have some problems in connecting to eduroam. I set it up as usual, but now when it tries to connect it says something like "Password or encryption keys are required to access the wifi" any ideas?
[15:52] <Akuw> what is this --->    https://pastebin.com/AU2xiGWP
[15:52] <Akuw> hard drive
[15:54] <ash_worksi> is there some default configuration that blocks dig answers for ANY because it 'might be too big' ?
[15:55] <yecril71pl1> How do I configure postgres94?
[15:55] <EriC^^> Akuw: yes that's a hard drive
[15:55] <ash_worksi> yecril71pl1: too ambiguous; what do you want to configure?
[15:55] <Akuw> but it is a phisycal proble right
[15:56] <Akuw> its a SSD
[15:57] <leftyfb> Akuw: bad drive
[16:02] <yecril71pl1> Nothing happens when I tell the software manager to launch postgresql94
[16:02] <compdoc> should be a log file
[16:03] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postgresql.html.en
[16:06] <yecril71pl1> oerheks: thank you, I need 9.4
[16:11] <yecril71pl1> I have various things in /snap/postgres94
[16:11] <yecril71pl1> but I have no idea how to use them
[16:12] <nacc> yecril71pl1: do you know what snaps are?
[16:15] <nacc> yecril71pl1: and did you mean /snap/postgresql94 ?
[16:16] <yecril71pl1> I do not know what snaps are
[16:17] <yecril71pl1> Right, /snap/postgresql94
[16:17] <yecril71pl1> I do not know how to run a snap
[16:17] <nacc> yecril71pl1: snaps are an alternative packaging format
[16:17] <nacc> yecril71pl1: is this your system? or a shared system?
[16:17] <yecril71pl1> It is my system
[16:17] <nacc> yecril71pl1: if yours, you had to install the snap at some point.
[16:18] <yecril71pl1> I have just installed it
[16:18] <yecril71pl1> but I have no idea what to do with it
[16:18] <nacc> yecril71pl1: so you installed something but don't know what it is?
[16:18] <nacc> yecril71pl1: that's a rather sad state of affairs
[16:19] <yecril71pl1> nacc: I know what it is.  I do not know how to start it.
[16:19] <nacc> yecril71pl1: did you specifically want PG 9.4?
[16:19] <yecril71pl1> Yes, I did
[16:19] <nacc> yecril71pl1: in any case, type postgresql94.<tab>
[16:19] <yecril71pl1> And I agree that my ignorance is sad :-(
[16:21]  * yecril71pl1 has found file:///snap/postgresql94/52/usr/share/doc/postgresql/html/index.html
[16:21] <nacc> yecril71pl1: did you try what i suggested?
[16:22] <nacc> yecril71pl1: i believe it's actually just `postgresql94`
[16:22] <blackflow> yecril71pl1: may I ask why do you need postgres 9.4 specifically?
[16:22] <oerheks> we dropped 9.4 some time ago.. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgresql
[16:22] <blackflow> oerheks: it's a snap
[16:22] <yecril71pl1> Because my server requires it.
[16:22] <yecril71pl1> postgres does not know where to find the server configuration file.
[16:22] <blackflow> .... owned by a random company, and not pgdg, by the way.
[16:23] <yecril71pl1> blackflow: random or not, it is in the store.
[16:23] <blackflow> yecril71pl1: well that's what I'm asking, why do you require 9.4 specifically. what is it that 9.6 can't accomplish?
[16:23] <oerheks> jups, anyone can make a ppa/snap/flatpack
[16:23] <blackflow> or postgres 10 in bionic.
[16:24]  * yecril71pl1 shall try postgres 10
[16:25] <nacc> fwiw, the snap documentation appears to be at https://github.com/commandprompt/postgresql-snap
[16:29] <Richard_Cavell> What version of gcc is with Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:29] <Richard_Cavell> I'm on 16.04 and it uses 5.4.0, which is too old for me
[16:29] <oerheks> as it is LTS, it will be a stable version
[16:29] <oerheks> !find gcc
[16:30] <oerheks> !info gcc-7
[16:32] <oerheks> pretty up2date, looking @ https://packages.debian.org/sid/gcc-7
[16:34]  * Richard_Cavell has to install VirtualBox because 18.04 won't run on his machine
[16:35] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: do you actually need a VM? just use a container
[16:41] <yecril71pl1> It seems that snaps cannot write to /var
[16:41] <nacc> yecril71pl1: if they are confined, no they cannot
[16:42] <yecril71pl1> but I do not want to store data in /snap
[16:42] <nacc> yecril71pl1: did you read the github pages?
[16:42] <nacc> yecril71pl1: then don't use snaps.
[16:49] <yecril71pl1> nacc, all, it is up and running.  Thank you so much :-)
[16:50] <nacc> yecril71pl: cool
[16:59] <yecril71pl> DETAIL:  The database was initialized with LC_COLLATE "en_US.UTF-8",  which is not recognized by setlocale().
[17:00] <yecril71pl> the locale is called en_US.utf8 in Ubuntu.
[17:02] <badbodh> hello. is there anyway to see a list of snapstore only on ubuntu software 18.04
[17:03] <yecril71pl> they are all in /snap
[17:03] <duvan> .
[17:03] <badbodh> yecril71pl, so nothing on gui ?
[17:03] <AnimalFarmPig> If I want to submit a patch to some code in an Ubuntu package, what do I need to do?
[17:03] <badbodh> is it bug or intended behavior ?
[17:04] <AnimalFarmPig> bugfix
[17:04] <yecril71pl> badbodh: Ubuntu Software
[17:04] <nythalcrow>  think 18.04 is very nice
[17:05]  * jeffree yells
[17:05] <jeffree> UBUNTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[17:05] <nacc> jeffree: please stop.
[17:05] <badbodh> yecril71pl, there's editor picks n stuff. nothing 'snap' specific
[17:05] <nacc> badbodh: you mean you want to see what snaps are available in the software center?
[17:05] <badbodh> suggestions do include some snapstore items
[17:05] <jeffree> nacc: since you asked
[17:05] <nacc> yecril71pl: /snap is about your system, not the store.
[17:05] <badbodh> nacc, aye. a list of all snaps
[17:05] <jeffree> UBUNTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[17:05] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: file a bug
[17:06] <AnimalFarmPig> there's a bug in the `guake` package in 18.04. It's an easy fix.
[17:06] <AnimalFarmPig> bug already filed
[17:06] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: ok, download the sourcepackage, make the change, submit the debdiff
[17:06] <yecril71pl> badbodh: the desktop application shows you snamps
[17:06] <AnimalFarmPig> it's a 1 line of code change to fix the bug, or could be fixed by adding a dependency to the package
[17:06] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: do you know how ubuntu source pakages work?
[17:06] <badbodh> yecril71pl, can you be more specific? you can be as "advanced" as possible
[17:07] <AnimalFarmPig> nacc: cool. Where do I submit to? I'm looking through the "contributing" section of the wiki don't see detail
[17:07] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: you submit it as an attachment in the bug
[17:07] <AnimalFarmPig> nacc: ehhh.... I've built some source packages before, but been a while. You have a handy link to documentation?
[17:07] <badbodh> i know the archwiki page for snapd. command line isn't a problem, i was wondering if the software centre could be made to list all available snapps
[17:07] <AnimalFarmPig> or know what I should search for
[17:08] <badbodh> it does suggest on home page, so it definitely reads the snapd
[17:08] <badbodh> but it's a mix of repo and snap
[17:08] <badbodh> i hope i'm being coherent :D
[17:09] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: roughly: `pull-lp-source guake bionic; cd guake; <make your changes>; dpkg-source --commit (and then edit the quilt patch); dep3changelog debian/patches/<path to your patch>; dpkg-buildpackage -S -nc -d -uc -us; cd ../; debdiff <old>.dsc <new>.dsc
[17:09] <nacc> badbodh: you should ask in #snappy
[17:09] <nacc> badbodh: the store does not "read" snapd
[17:10] <yecril71pl> badbodh: gnome-software.desktop
[17:10] <AnimalFarmPig> awesome. I've been using Ubuntu for quite a while, figure it's time to learn how to contribute. Thanks, nacc!
[17:10] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: yw; there are git repos now for packages in main, but the above will work (roughly) for all packages
[17:11] <badbodh> yecril71pl, tell me where to click https://kek.gg/i/7FqLfN.png
[17:12] <AnimalFarmPig> nacc: cool. I'll take a look. Need to get back to work now, but you've definitely given me enough info to figure it out myself. Thanks again!
[17:12] <nacc> badbodh: you can't search 'by snap'  if that's what you're asking
[17:13] <nacc> AnimalFarmPig: no problem
[17:13] <badbodh> nacc, thank you. now i'll excuse myself to allow that disappointment sink in :)
[17:14] <nacc> badbodh: i mean it would be sort of bad in principle
[17:14] <nacc> badbodh: the eventual goal is you don't notice what the source of the package is
[17:14] <badbodh> yeah, i heard the story. malware and stuff
[17:14] <badbodh> no problems. there's always other ways to skin a mongoose
[17:15] <badbodh> cheers
[17:15] <nacc> I believe if you pick a specific app, you can tell
[17:15] <badbodh> there's editor's pick too. i guess those are safe to download
[17:16] <nacc> badbodh: editor's picks is store curation; it doesn't refer to snap or deb, afaik
[17:17] <badbodh> some are snaps, some are from repo
[17:17] <badbodh> look at my screenshot. there's libreoffice in editor's pick which is snap btw
[17:17] <wad> Quick printing question: There's a printer at work, I've got the IP address, I can hit it in my browser and see all kinds of stats on the printer, I've downloaded the PPD, I'm installing it, but it's asking for the "Device URI". The IP address alone doesn't work. Ideas?
[17:17] <badbodh> but when i search libreoffice directly, only repo (preinstalled) shows up
[17:17] <wad> I've googled around, trying to figure out what I should specify for the device URI, into the printer settings.
[17:18] <badbodh> i am trying to understand the logic behind inconsistencies
[17:18] <badbodh> if i may call that
[17:18] <hrehf> hmm, why is ubuntu still downloading updates from http:// sources? is this secure?
[17:19] <wad> I've tried "ipp://10.72.20.20/" but the printer doesn't respond. I know it's listening on port 80 on that IP address.
[17:19] <hrehf> are checksums guaranteed to download from https?
[17:19] <JimBuntu> &e wad, is it an hp?
[17:19] <nacc> badbodh: not the behavior here (on 18.04)
[17:19] <wad> It's a Kyocera TASKalfa 4551ci
[17:20] <wad> I've got the exact PPD file for it installed on my Ubuntu box.
[17:20] <wad> All is well.... except that NOPLACE can I find information on what to specify for the device URI. :(
[17:21] <nacc> hrehf: https://askubuntu.com/questions/352952/are-repository-lists-secure-is-there-an-https-version
[17:21] <badbodh> nacc, i guess https://snapcraft.io/store will do for now
[17:21] <nacc> hrehf: and perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[17:22] <badbodh> secureapt. pfft! back in the days we had plaintext passwords over http
[17:22] <hrehf> nacc: thanks, I didn't find anything with my search terms
[17:22] <nacc> hrehf: my google query was "ubuntu apt https"
[17:41] <hrehf> hmm, I installed chromium from Software & Updates. I just uninstalled & reinstalled it, but now my bookmarks are gone, any ideas how to recover them? again, my google foo is bad :(
[17:42] <NoIdea> Hello.
[17:43] <NoIdea> Is right-click menus in the system tray not working a known issue in Trusty Tahr?
[17:43] <NoIdea> I know Trusty is an old version, but there are good reasons why I can't upgrade right now, until some health issues I'm having improve.
[17:45] <NoIdea> So I thought it was worth asking, in case anybody does know about this and there's a way round it.
[17:45] <hackinghorn> hi, what is the latest version?
[17:46] <beaver> <- bionic hackinghorn
[17:46] <beaver> 18.04
[17:47] <NoIdea> Bionic, would that be an LTS?
[17:48] <beaver> yes NoIdea
[17:50] <NoIdea> thanks Beaver.  Any idea about the system try thing in Trusty?
[17:50] <NoIdea> They used to work, I'm sure.
[17:50] <NoIdea> *tray.
[17:57] <carsten__> Hello! My name is Carsten from Nordhorn German. I am struggeling with the setup of my DVBsky 950 V3 PCIe card. My system show the card, but the driver wont be loaded. Is there any irc chat for Mythbuntu or arround DVB cards?
[17:58] <ikonia> carsten__: what happens when you try to load the module ?
[17:58] <ikonia> what version of ubuntu ?
[17:58] <Dexx1_> Hey guys. When I put in a sdcard into my sdcard reader, the drive doesn't show up. How can I get it working?
[17:59] <carsten__> it is the Mythbuntu 16.04 with update to Mythtv 29
[18:00] <carsten__> i have not so much routine in configuring linux... how to load the module?
[18:01] <carsten__> DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (Montage Technology M88DS3103)...
[18:01] <carsten__> [   26.354499] SMI PCIe driver 0000:02:00.0: DVBSky S950 V3 port 1 MAC: 00:18:33:54:05:51
[18:01] <carsten__> [   26.691952] Registered IR keymap rc-dvbsky
[18:01] <carsten__> [   26.692028] rc rc0: IR (DVBSky S950 V3) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0/rc/rc0
[18:01] <carsten__> [   26.692075] input: IR (DVBSky S950 V3) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.0/0000:02:00.0/rc/rc0/input4
[18:01] <carsten__> [   39.672829] m88ds3103 1-0068: Direct firmware load for dvb-demod-m88ds3103.fw failed with error -2
[18:03] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 Desktop 64-bit inside a VM with VirtualBox. Am i right in thinking that I don't need to install guest additions in 18.04 because that stuff's already in there?
[18:04] <carsten__> Ikonia?
[18:05] <carsten__>  Direct firmware load for dvb-demod-m88ds3103.fw failed with error -2  - how to fix this problem?
[18:06] <carsten__> where  will Mythbuntu search for the firmware if not in /lib/firmware/ ?
[18:11] <carsten__> join/ #ubuntu-mythtv
[18:11] <carsten__> ops
[18:23] <cd2usb> hi, is there an iso that acts as an "wrapper" to boot to usb? the infrastructure is slightly old and doesnt support boot from usb.
[18:27] <cd2usb> plop boot manager would be it , i guess
[18:28] <yecril71pl> GNOME lock screen does not let me back in
[18:29] <yecril71pl> The password control does not show, only the date
[18:32] <mrvanes> Is anyone of the ubuntu packagers in here?
[18:37] <nacc> mrvanes: what is your specific question?
[18:37] <mrvanes> There seems to be a libva mismatch
[18:37] <mrvanes> libmyth depends on libva1 which isn't available in bionic
[18:38] <mrvanes> so, initialising libva acceleration now fails
[18:38] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: what do you mean by "already in there"? is that perhaps a question for virtualbox?
[18:38] <mrvanes> I still have libva1 libs lying around from 1 xenial, but there are no accompanying i965 driver to handle the job
[18:39] <leftyfb> mrvanes: the proper/only way to get something like that fixed is by filing a bug
[18:39] <mrvanes> bionic comes with libva2 and drivers
[18:39] <mrvanes> So my CPU is very unhappy now
[18:39] <nacc> mrvanes: on bionic, libmyth depends on libmva2
[18:39] <nacc> *libva2
[18:39] <mrvanes> And I miss deinterlacing filter
[18:40] <nacc> mrvanes: are you trying to install the 16.04 libmyth?
[18:40] <mrvanes> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.29/ubuntu bionic main
[18:40] <mrvanes> apt update/upgrade
[18:40] <nacc> mrvanes: that's a PPA, not an ubuntu package
[18:41] <nacc> mrvanes: contact the PPA owner if they have a problem with their package
[18:41] <mrvanes> libmyth                               2:29.1+fixes.20180610.675676b-0ubuntu0mythbuntu4 amd64
[18:41] <oerheks> mrvanes, odd, i read libva2 ... https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libmyth
[18:41] <nacc> mrvanes: right, not the ubuntu version.
[18:41] <nacc> !info libmyth bionic
[18:41] <oerheks> oh ppa, then you must ask the maintainer of that ppa
[18:41] <mrvanes> I assumed I was at the right  place for that?
[18:41] <leftyfb> mrvanes: contact the PPA maintainer
[18:42] <nacc> mrvanes: uh, no.
[18:42] <mrvanes> because the ppa is maintained by mythbuntu people?
[18:42] <oerheks> no, you need to use email/launchpad
[18:42] <leftyfb> oerheks: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+contactuser
[18:42] <mrvanes> I did, just thought I'd give it a try here?
[18:42] <nacc> mrvanes: no, it's not supported. PPA packages are only supported by their owner.
[18:42] <mrvanes> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/1777314
[18:42] <leftyfb> heh
[18:42] <nacc> Im going to reject that bug
[18:42] <mrvanes> Ok, fair enough
[18:43] <oerheks> bionic gives the same version..
[18:43] <oerheks> :-D
[18:43] <mrvanes> So, for my understanding... there is a 0.29 in ubuntu repo that depends on libva2?
[18:44] <nacc> mrvanes: yes.
[18:44] <oerheks> i posted the url
[18:45] <mrvanes> Is that this one 2:29.1+fixes.20180610.675676b-0ubuntu0mythbuntu2
[18:45] <mrvanes> Oh, no it's the 0414 version, I see it
[18:45] <mrvanes> 2:29.1+fixes.20180414.329c235-0ubuntu3
[18:45] <nacc> correct
[18:48] <Beast> how do I create a upgrade report? During upgrade there were 3 packages that weren't able to be retreved, but I didnt take notice at the time.
[18:50] <Beast> I m in the software center trying to get history but it doesnt seem to want to give me an output, just refreshes unendelessly
[18:52] <mrvanes> rebooting (drumroll)
[18:54] <mrvanes> vaapicontext.cpp:173 (Create) VAAPI: Driver : Intel i965 driver for Intel(R) Bay Trail - 2.1.0
[18:54] <mrvanes> Thx!!
[18:56] <oerheks> :-)
[18:56] <nacc> Beast: you mean an `apt upgrade` report?
[18:56] <nacc> Beast: look in /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/apt/term.log
[18:57] <carsten__> Is there anyone who know something about dvb-s card configuration in ubuntu 16.04?
[18:57] <Beast> ah, yeah possibly. I just want to find out what were the packages that weren retrieved and see if I can install them now, or if they're deprecated.
[18:58] <Beast> ok, thanks nacc.
[18:59] <nacc> Beast: yeah, i think that should get logged there (but not sure)
[19:01] <tomreyn> software center would be snaps, though, isnt it?
[19:01] <nacc> tomreyn: it has snaps and debs
[19:01] <nacc> tomreyn: so it technically depends; but as far as 'upgrades' go, only debs get upgraded that way
[19:01] <nacc> tomreyn: snaps refresh via snapd periodically on their own
[19:02] <tomreyn> if it works, yes ;)
[19:02] <tomreyn> thanks for explaining, i wasn't aware software center proviced access to (a subset of) both snaps and apt.
[19:05] <oerheks> type snap in search, and softwarecenter gives a list... but unfortunatly, hard to look into
[19:11] <nacc> tomreyn: yeah, i think in all releases, but definitely in 16.04+
[19:15] <tomreyn> i see. i don't usually use software center, prefer apt.
[19:17] <curlyears> 'greetings, all
[19:18] <nacc> tomreyn: yeah me neither, just aware of it :)
[19:24] <curlyears> OK.  When i woke my system up this morning, I tried, after checking my morning email, to open up my browser,Firefox.  For some reason, my system pops up a box which has: "Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded/It may me missiing or inaccessible"
[19:24] <curlyears> hopw did this hap[pen, and what is it?  (broad questions, I know.  I need help in finding the answers
[19:28] <EriC^^> curlyears: might have ran sudo on a gui program or firefox
[19:28] <leftyfb> curlyears: have you run a drive/filesystem check?
[19:28] <EriC^^> try "sudo find ~ ! -user $USER "
[19:29] <curlyears> leftyfb:   fdis?
[19:29] <oerheks> is this after you put your data back in your /home/  ?
[19:29] <curlyears> fdisk
[19:29] <curlyears> ?
[19:29] <oerheks> oops too early
[19:32] <curlyears> oerheks:  as a matter oif fact, yes
[19:35] <leftyfb> curlyears: fdisk is not a a disk/filesystem check
[19:35] <curlyears> EriC^^:   Should I run fisk?
[19:35] <curlyears> fsck?
[19:35] <EriC^^> curlyears: no, work on oerheks lead
[19:35] <dabauer_> so this IRC????
[19:35] <ces> I'm running KDE Neon (based on 16.04) and my DNS is broken. Manually specifying the DNS in my connection settings doesn't seem to work. Setting it as my resolver in /etc/resolv.conf does work, but that isn't saved across sessions. Is there a solution to this?
[19:36] <dabauer_> looks OK, I just don't know what to say
[19:36] <EriC^^> dabauer_: welcome
[19:36] <leftyfb> dabauer_: This is a support channel for Ubuntu. If you've got an issue, please explain in detail.
[19:36] <dabauer_> Yeah I tried USEnet but I didn't see anything
[19:37] <EriC^^> dabauer_: this whole network is kind of opensourcy computer stuff
[19:38] <dabauer_> Yeah well I've been using computers for 46 years, so I know a lot
[19:38] <EriC^^> dabauer_: cool, you'll fit right in then :)
[19:38] <dabauer_> yeah
[19:38] <dabauer_> gotta go send an email now, be back later
[19:39] <Randolf> Okay, so I'm just trying to configure Ubuntu Server 18.04 LTS, and I've found that configuring /etc/networking/interfaces has a message about switching to a new system called netplan.
[19:40] <Randolf> The configuration files look complicated.  Is "netplan" replacing "interfaces" now?
[19:40] <ioria> Randolf, kinda
[19:40] <Randolf> Hmm.
[19:40] <llutz>  netplan really doesn't  support setting ipv6-tokens? hey, it's 2018 ...
[19:40] <Randolf> Well, I'm using IPv6 as well.
[19:40] <oerheks> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan
[19:41] <ioria> Randolf, you can use /e/n/i but you need extra work
[19:41] <Randolf> If I dump netplan, will interfaces still work just fine?
[19:41] <nacc> ioria: should just be a matter of install ifupdown
[19:41] <nacc> ioria: and not configuring netplan at all
[19:41] <ioria> nacc, also resolvconf,i guess
[19:41] <Randolf> Well, my netplan is configured with DHCP from the test site.
[19:42] <nacc> ioria: i think resolvconf is still installed, as is systemd-resolved, but i might be wrong
[19:42] <ioria> nacc, yep, you need dpkg-reconfigure
[19:42] <nacc> ioria: ah!
[19:42] <nacc> ioria: that makes sense, thanks
[19:42] <ioria> nacc, np
[19:43] <ioria> Randolf, you can safely use netplan, just learn the syntax (no really need fot interface)
[19:43] <ioria> *for
[19:45] <Randolf> I'm looking at the configuration file under /etc/netplan/ and it's horrible.  Is netplan just a tool for automatically configuring interfaces?
[19:45] <Randolf> I'm not interested in joining the cloud.
[19:45] <Randolf> It looks like it's all about joining a cloud of some sort.
[19:45] <ioria> Randolf, no cloud involved
[19:46] <Randolf> ioria:  Okay, and yet the configuration file under /etc/netplan/ indicates that a cloud needs to be disabled.
[19:46] <Randolf> This is confusing.
[19:46] <Randolf> If I'm going to use netplan, then I need to experiment with it first, and spend some time to get to know it.
[19:47] <Randolf> How does one remove it?  For now I just want to continue as usual with /etc/networking/interfaces as I'm used to.
[19:47] <ioria> Randolf,  right, what ubuntu are gonna using ?
[19:47] <oerheks> llwith ipv6 make suer you " " the address https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/1751151
[19:47] <oerheks> c/sure
[19:47] <Randolf> Well, I recently invested a lot of time into learning Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, and it didn't have this.
[19:48] <nacc> Randolf: then use 16.04?
[19:48] <Randolf> I'm also using IPv4 and IPv6, but it seems there's an issue with IPv6 support in netplan.
[19:48] <ioria> Randolf,  yep, form 17.10
[19:48] <Randolf> nacc:  I'm using 18 LTS now.
[19:48] <Randolf> So, my question is, how can I remove or disable netplan?
[19:48] <nacc> Randolf: then you didn't read the release notes?
[19:48] <ioria> Randolf,  release notes are good
[19:48] <nacc> Randolf: you were told how, you need to reinstall ifupdown and reconfigure resolvconf (I think)
[19:48] <Randolf> nacc:  Oh, I missed that.  Okay.
[19:49] <nacc> Randolf: also, YAML isn't horrible. It's a differnet file format (it's an actual format, not the custom eni thing)
[19:49] <Randolf> nacc:  That's why I need time to study this and get used to it.
[19:49] <Randolf> I don't have days right now though.
[19:50] <ioria> Randolf,  if i may, don't stay behind :þ
[19:50] <Beast> nacc: yeah, hhingad a quick look but aside from some errors, I don see anything about failed package retreival. Oh, well, I assume if thy were important, further upgrades will pull them in again.
[19:50] <nacc> Randolf: i don't understand, why did you upgrade if you don't have time to learn what your new system uses?
[19:51] <nacc> Beast: ok, yeah, it might have retried, as well?
[19:52] <Randolf> ioria:  I don't intend to, but when it comes to networking and security, I have to know how the tools are working that I'm using.  I will learn it, but for now interfaces works extremely well for me.
[19:53] <Randolf> nacc:  This netplan stuff caught me by surprise.  I found some instructions for removing it, so I'm going to proceed with that for now.
[19:53] <ioria> Randolf,  ok, so you need some work
[19:53] <leftyfb> Randolf: make sure you install and configure ifupdown first before removing netplan
[19:54] <Beast> nacc: I don think so because they notifying popup window came up after the everything was installed, as I recall and which I found odd. So they must have been minor to not have stalled the upgrade. I had a look at them them but they didn stand out. I should have made a note of them. Lesson learned.
[19:54] <Randolf> leftyfb:  Yes, great advice.  Thank you.
[19:55] <nacc> Beast: yeah, i'm not sure; if it's the GUI update manager thing, that might also log somewhere, but i'm not sure where
[19:55] <ioria> Randolf,  before starting, backupo your *yalm files
[19:55] <Randolf> ioria:  Thank you.  I shall make a point of doing that.
[19:55] <ioria> Randolf,  i mean *yaml
[19:56] <ioria> Randolf, if you're using NM, you need to stop and disable it
[19:56] <Randolf> NM?  I'm using Bionic.
[19:56] <ioria> Randolf,  change the render from Nm to  networkd
[19:56] <ioria> Randolf,  ps -A | grep -i Network
[19:57] <Randolf> I'm using networkd.  Thanks.
[19:57] <ioria> Randolf,  on Desktop ?
[19:57] <ioria> Randolf,  it's a server then ...
[19:57] <Randolf> No, this is a server.
[19:57] <ioria> ok
[19:57] <qwebirc3999> Hi, I've downloaded ova image from: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/bionic/current/ and I'm trying to import it in ESXi. I've inputed custom password however I can't find login. I've tried "admin", "ubuntu", "root".
[19:58] <Randolf> Hmm, only IPv4 is working.  Not IPv6.  But perhaps that's a netplan issue?  I don't know.
[19:59] <ioria> Randolf,  i don't use ipv6 , sy
[19:59] <Randolf> That's okay.  I do, and I'm running it on all my servers.
[20:00] <Randolf> ...except on some Windows servers we don't run it because of blue screen crashes.
[20:03] <nacc> Randolf: you may have wanted #ubuntu-server this whole time, btw
[20:04] <Randolf> nacc:  Oh, thanks.
[20:08] <zxf> hi, libreoffice writer doesnt start and no messages are shown
[20:08] <zxf> it used to present this error
[20:08] <zxf> Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
[20:09] <zxf> which was fixed by installing at-spi2-core
[20:09] <zxf> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/at-spi2-core
[20:13] <Randolf> Thanks, everyone, for your help with this.  I've got the system working without netplan now.  I had to manually remove /etc/netplan/ and /lib/netplan/ to get the rebooting to revert to /etc/network/interfaces for configuring the network.  IPv6 is working now too.
[20:14] <oerheks> have fun!
[20:17] <timdotrb> Does anyone know if you can change the MySQL datadir to a different partition on Ubuntu WSL? I’m getting a sync error, and I’m guessing it has something to do with permissions
[20:18] <timdotrb> (To be clear, I have changed the datadir in the config, but I’m getting an error that it can’t write to that folder)
[20:25] <Richard_Cavell> So a while ago I was hearing about Meltdown and Spectre. Is it the case that Ubuntu is now fixed?  Has there been much slowdown reported?
[20:25] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: there are generations of both, and the known vulnerabilities have been patched
[20:26] <nacc> !meltdown
[20:26] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: the slowdown depends on your use case
[20:27] <Richard_Cavell> Is it a disaster?  People were predicting that at one point and then I went on annual leave and stayed away from computers for ages
[20:28] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: ...
[20:28] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:28] <Richard_Cavell> No. I'll ask in another channel.
[20:33] <phelix> 0
[20:35] <bynarie> anyone know how to fake or turn off GPS in 18.04?
[20:35] <bynarie> xbuntu sepc.
[20:42] <nacc> bynarie: your system has a GPS receiver?
[20:44] <urgodfather> hello room, i need to do a distro upgrade but i need it to hold back certain packages
[20:44] <nacc> bynarie: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/privacy-location.html.en if you do
[20:44] <nacc> urgodfather: then you don't need to a distro upgrade
[20:44] <nacc> urgodfather: those are incompatible statemetns
[20:45] <urgodfather> nacc, my issue is that i need to install java8 before a package installs
[20:45] <urgodfather> but i cant upgrade the package until i do a distro upgrade
[20:45] <urgodfather> and the distro upgrade automatically does the package too
[20:46] <urgodfather> package being unifi controller
[20:46] <nacc> urgodfather: what version are you on and upgrading to?
[20:46] <oerheks> but bionic has openjdk8 .. and 11
[20:46] <oerheks> !find openjdk-8
[20:47] <nacc> urgodfather: and this package is not an ubuntu one?
[20:47] <nacc> oerheks: rigth
[20:47] <urgodfather> im on 12.04 btw
[20:47] <nacc> ...
[20:47] <nacc> so you're on an eol release?
[20:47] <nacc> urgodfather: what are you trying to upgrade to
[20:47] <urgodfather> correction 14.04
[20:47] <nacc> urgodfather: there was no ubuntu java 8 package in 14.04
[20:48] <urgodfather> rut row raggy
[20:48] <oerheks> standard we talk about openjdk, if you use the oracle blob, that might be different
[20:48] <oerheks> :-D
[20:48] <urgodfather> either or is fine based on my understanding of the notes
[20:48] <urgodfather> lemme double check
[20:50] <pztrick> apparently this ubuntu 14.04 server is missing some certificate authority needed newer than 2014 for a rackspace API. (Wget works fine on 16.04.) Is there an official way to update CA certs short of an upgrade? Can I just fetch a newer ca-certificates package from jessie or sid?
[20:52] <oerheks> sudo update-ca-certificates # would do, i guess
[20:53] <Term1nal> I have a setup: 2xNVME SSDs in RAID1, with LUKS -> LVM -> EXT4 on top of that, and a separate non-raid/lvm EFI partition for the bootloader. Is there a way I can set this up such that the bootloader is also encrypted (and preferrably synchronized across both drives ala RAID1)? Also, without having to do some kind of manual process each time the kernel is updated?
[20:55] <Term1nal> end goal being: full disc(+bootloader) encryption across RAID1 NVME SSDs, minus any manual re-installation of grub every update.
[20:55] <pztrick> oerheks: that indicated 0 new installed, so I did try the Debian jessie one and now `wget` doesn't complain about an invalid cert but Python urllib3 still does ... not sure if py is using a different certificate store or not.
[20:55] <pztrick> i'll keep tinkering a bit...
[20:56] <nacc> pztrick: http://urllib3.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced-usage.html ?
[21:03] <nacc> Term1nal: do you mean teh bootloader or do you mean /boot?
[21:04] <Term1nal> nacc: I'd want /boot to be encrypted/synced, and grub to be secureboot capable
[21:05] <nacc> Term1nal: ok, that doesn't really have much to do with your bootloader (grub can read an encrypted /boot) -- perhpas read over https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Overview
[21:05] <Term1nal> the problem I'm having is throwing RAID1 into the mix.
[21:06] <nacc> Term1nal: are you doing this with software RAID
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: There's no good way to RAID your EFI System Partition unless your boot firmware supports some kind of FakeRAID, and IMHO the downsides of using FakeRAID outway this small upside.
[21:06] <mefistofeles> hello, just wondering if lxqt metapackage installs a display manager, does anyone know?
[21:07] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: You could create your own script that will mirror the contents of one EFI System Partition to another, and manually use efibootmgr to make a fallback entry that uses that second ESP if the first fails, but at some point having your own home grown solution increases rather that decreases the likelyhood of failure :(
[21:08] <mefistofeles> apparently, it doesn't
[21:09] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: I'm also not aware if Ubuntu's signed grub efi images include modules for LUKS decryption, which would mean you'd have to choose between having /boot/ encrypted or having secure boot enabled. For me, I'd *much* rather my /boot/ be unencrypted than disable secure boot. /boot/ is generally does not contain secrets.
[21:10] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: So, it's unfortunately not a great state of things as far as your goals go at the moment. There's no answer without downsides that I know of :(
[21:21] <root> SA
[21:21] <root> SA
[21:21] <root> SA
[21:21] <root> SA
[21:22] <oerheks> it is sad to irc as root
[21:23] <yaldak> :(
[21:23] <pizzaburger> Hey! I'm running win7 on linux host. I'm using mullvad's free (3h accounts) VPN client on my host, and put socks5 in proxifier on my guest. I noticed that my DNS is either leaking the Mullvad IP, or being completely random if I proxy it. Are there any solutions to this situation?
[21:24] <pizzaburger> I tried to just put the socks5 on my host to route traffic system wide. Proxychains seems like a good tool but I only managed to route specific applications
[21:25] <pizzaburger> Is there a tool on linux which would route all traffic (including the VM guest) through my selected socks5?
[21:29] <ces> $LANG=en_US.UTF-8 but apt/aptitude are showing status messages in Portuguese. I already did dpkg-reconfigure locales and selected en_US.UTF8, but no luck. How can I fix this?
[21:30] <ces> https://pastebin.com/raw/yHwdzmS6
[21:33] <Term1nal> Jordan_U: sorry I had to take a call, with /boot unencrypted, sure it doesn't contain secrets, but would it not be susceptible to "baid maid" style of compromise?
[21:34] <Term1nal> if unencrypted, kernel could be modified with physical access, right?
[21:36] <Term1nal> or would it matter, +signed kernel, etc?
[21:39] <oerheks> i think uefi will catch this, yes.. but for how long..
[21:40] <Term1nal> so really, I can just do unencrypted boot with signed kernel and that should be sufficient with a signed grub bootloader?
[21:45] <oerheks> lvm luks ask a password before boot, so i think it is encrypted too
[21:46] <Term1nal> okay yeah I'm reading that ubuntu's default kernel binaries are signed so that shouldn't be an issue
[21:46] <Term1nal> though strangley, initrd is not signed O.o
[21:46] <Term1nal> not sure why that is
[21:47] <nacc> the initrd is generated on the system
[21:47] <nacc> that's *probably* why
[21:47] <jerichowasahoax> once the signed kernel is loaded it's out of uefi's hands
[21:47] <jerichowasahoax> you're officially "in the OS" now as far as UEFI's concerned
[21:48] <jerichowasahoax> could probably verify the signatures for some of the things inside the initrd if you really needed to, like certain modules or the systemd bins
[21:58] <Term1nal> jerichowasahoax: apparently I can simply keep grub/kernel/initrd in the EFI partition and encrypt /boot, mount the EFI partition to /boot/efi in the system
[21:59] <Term1nal> https://ruderich.org/simon/notes/secure-boot-with-grub-and-signed-linux-and-initrd
[22:02] <Dexx1_> Hey guys. When I put in a sdcard into my sdcard reader, the drive doesn't show up. How can I get it working?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> Term1nal: The initramfs is not signed because it's generated for your specific configuration. For example, if your root fs is on LUKS then it will contain the kernel modules needed to mount your LUKS volume as well as (I believe) a copy of your /etc/crypttab. Since they can't ship the same initramfs for all users they can't sign only one initramfs and ship it.
[22:10] <nacc> Dexx1_: did you try other SD cards or other SD card readers?
[22:12] <Dexx1_> nacc: I don't have another sd card reader. This one is built in and has worked fine. Tried a different card though...no luck
[22:15] <nacc> Dexx1_: so two different sd cards are not recognized?
[22:15] <Dexx1_> nacc: correct
[22:15] <nacc> Dexx1_: seems like it'd be the reader at that point?
[22:15] <nacc> Dexx1_: i mean, did those cards work in something else?
[22:16] <Dexx1_> nacc: It worked a couple of days ago...
[22:16] <nacc> Dexx1_: another machine, a camera, etc.
[22:16] <Dexx1_> Yes
[22:16] <Dexx1_> of course
[22:16] <Term1nal> Jordan_U: that makes sense.
[22:16] <Dexx1_> works on a different computer even
[22:16] <oerheks> depends what filesystem is on both cards, exfat?
[22:16] <nacc> oerheks: i wouldn't think the fs would matter to at least see the card
[22:16] <Term1nal> I really wish there was a supported installer option for raid1+full disk encryption that was easymode for me lol
[22:19] <oerheks> but he is busy in ##linux ..
[22:26] <Dexx1_> nacc: oerheks filesystem is ext3 I think --- whatever the Rapsberry Pi 3 uses
[22:35] <revstrangehope> hello I am having some issue with trying to get awk working with a csv file was wondering if someone can help
[22:39] <ChoboMog> I am able to successfully connect to an OpenVPN server, via the command line; however, as the service is only set up to use IPv4, it leaks my actual IPv6 address to the outside world and only IPv4 traffic seems to being going via the VPN.
[22:39] <ChoboMog> While disabling IPv6 entirely would solve this, is anyone aware of a way to disable IPv6 traffic while connected to a VPN?
[22:39] <ChoboMog> Sadly, as I don't administer the VPN server, simplying having them support/tunnel IPv6 as well isn't an option.
[23:01] <oerheks> yes http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2018/06/18/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-532/
[23:06] <Mibix> i am getting error mounting system-mangaedd device /dvl/sdl2 mounted or mount point busy
[23:07] <Mibix> was getting errors trying to access stuff on the drive so i unmounted
[23:15] <jada> hey, I'm thinking of buying ASUS C302C Chromebook, do you know if I can put Ubuntu on it or if there are any problems?
[23:15] <jada> or that channel 'doesn handle hacking like that...' ?
[23:15] <jada> I've been turned down many times here for doing non-standard things with Ubuntu
[23:16] <rollingubuntu> hello! here's my story: I've booted Ubuntu 18.04 64-bit from USB (on my laptop) and I plugged in another USB (call this full-usb-install) stick and installed Ubuntu on it directly.
[23:17] <rollingubuntu> Everything seems superb, until when I plug my full-usb-install in another computer and boot from it. There I can see the full-usb-install shows me the Grub menu I originally have on my laptop. And for some reason, the full-usb-install does not start :( (it works fine if I boot it on my laptop, 18.04 is ok, however, on other PCs, it doesn't :( Any ideas?
[23:17] <Lost_Goat> hey i am trying to mount/format a new drive using cfidsk is there any directions on how to get a drive to have a mount point so i can create directories ?
[23:18] <nacc> rollingubuntu: "the Grub menu I originally have on my laptop" -- can you rephrase?
[23:18] <deww> Lost_Goat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive should have info you are seeking
[23:18] <nacc> Lost_Goat: cfdisk doesn't mount aything
[23:18] <Lost_Goat> thanks @deww & @nacc
[23:19] <Dj_FlyBy> I have a network that has an Ubuntu 16.04 server and some windows machines. Everything Samba related worked flawlessly for years.... Now I have added 2 more Ubuntu machines into the network and suddenly Samba is working weirdly. All shares from the original Ubuntu work perfect. Accessing shares on any other machines is no longer able to be done: whether it is the new Ubuntu machines or the windows machines... Not sure how else to explain it. I'm also
[23:19] <Dj_FlyBy> not sure if this would be due to Ubuntu or Samba. Any ideas please?
[23:22] <ercee> hey
[23:28] <rollingubuntu> nacc: my laptop runs on 16.04 and also has a 17.08 on it... so, the stick with the full-usb-install has this same grub menu options when booting it on a different PC
[23:32] <LudusLight> Hi, what is the best way to create a persistant USB bootable drive?
[23:32] <LudusLight> I need to create a temporary workspace to use on a computer that is not my own
[23:36] <ChoboMog> Has anyone here purchased the Dell XPS 15 9570, for use with Ubuntu 16.04LTS/18.04LTS?
[23:37] <ChoboMog> I am looking to find out, beyond the quirks of installation, how well the battery life and stability hold up when running a combination of integrated/discreet graphics cards using nvidia-prime
[23:42] <grg> anyone have tips on getting ubuntu to recognize an m.2 drive?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> LudusLight: One method: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/persistent .
[23:45] <ercee> hey
[23:45] <ercee> anybody there ?
[23:45] <LudusLight> Thanks Bashing-om
[23:46] <ercee> !
[23:46] <Bashing-om> LudusLight: :) We are here to help .
[23:53] <grg> or better question: what command should I run to demonstrate that ubuntu isn't recognizing my m.2 drive, because I don't see anything in lspci or lsblk that indicates it is being recognized
[23:57] <grg> perhaps my issue is that I bought the wrong m.2 drive. lol
[23:58] <grg> the only officially tested compatible drives are m.2 drives that are "M" key edge connectors, but I bought a "M & B" key edge connector drive