[01:02] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @MikeSheldon, this is awesome news all by itself. ..so in terms of 'work left to do' on the actual swipe input... what's your best guess if someone were to put their head down and really focus ?  since I can't code it's hard for me to gauge what's needed.  Anyway, thanks for this update and welcome back, sir!
[05:44] <ubptgbot> <leoaslan> Hi is anyone working ubuntu touch on xperia x
[05:44] <ubptgbot> <leoaslan> [Edit] Hi is anyone working on porting ubuntu touch on xperia x
[06:05] <ubptgbot> <mymike00> @TomasOqvist, why do you say deliveries can be long? only 6-13 days it says...
[06:08] <ubptgbot> <TomasOqvist> @mymike00, Just from experience. Customs clearance can take very long sometimes. But I have also had deliveries from China in the matter of a few days.
[06:10] <ubptgbot> <mymike00> @TomasOqvist, ah ok. I thought it could cost much more than 180£ btw...
[06:15] <ubptgbot> <TomasOqvist> Well, that I am not sure of. We have had some changes to the way the Swedish postal service handles customs payments on packages from China.
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[06:43] <ubptgbot> <mymike00> https://www.volumerate.com/product/meizu-pro-5-flyme-5-0-exynos7420-octa-core-4g-cellphone-w-5-7-ips-21-16mp-3gb-32gb-fingerprint-id-844422504 here it is sold to a much more higher price...
[06:52] <ubptgbot> <TomasOqvist> @mymike00, and less specs, 3GB/32GB vs the ones on eBay 4GB/64GB
[06:52] <ubptgbot> <mymike00> @TomasOqvist, yeah I saw it...
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[07:17] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> how do you know if you are connected to 2.4 or 5 ghz wifi?
[07:18] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> or how do you specifically connect to one?
[07:28] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @David Torres, Hi David, welcome!! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started !! … There are  language focus groups too 👍
[07:28] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @leoaslan, nope afaik
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[08:33] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> "Launcher" is still hidden in the settings app … I think this has been a know. issue and it's pretty weird … it's only on some devices like bq E5 and Nexus 5
[08:33] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> even on the redesigned settings app in xenial, it's still hidden … it's searchable but no icon
[09:37] <ubptgbot> candranugraha was added by: candranugraha
[09:54] <ubptgbot> fawzee was added by: fawzee
[09:56] <ubptgbot> <fawzee> hey guys! wassup? Did any of you try ubuntu touch on htc one m9 or motorola moto g?
[09:59] <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> all available devices are here: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
[10:00] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome @fawzee & @candranugraha !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[10:10] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Javacookies, IIRC, it's intentionally hidden on phones, only visible in staged or windowed mode
[10:11] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I see....that's weird because the launcher settings can be used with phones as well, some wants smaller or bigger width on phones
[10:15] <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> UTTT has a setting for it
[10:36] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> yeah but since it's already there officially then why is it hidden? … anyway, not really a big deal :D
[10:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Javacookies, Open an issue on GH? Submit a PR?
[12:34] <ubptgbot> <delijati> crap got a bootloop in dev channel for OPO :/
[12:45] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Caro, buen día, perdoná que te joda
[12:45] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Está el papá de Elías de 6to, preguntando por "unos papeles de la compu, me llamaron de secretaría"
[12:45] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Tenés idea de qué habla?
[12:45] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> (Yo no)
[12:48] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> (¿Englando please?)
[12:56] <ubptgbot> <PhoenixLandPirate> @delijati, On 16.04? Mine booted fine, try reinstalling via the ubports installer?
[12:57] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> my opo works fine also, do you have adb access or does it reboot before that?
[12:58] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> @Gorsh2, Te confundiste de canal
[13:01] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Uh, perdón, ahí los borro
[13:01] <ubptgbot> <Gorsh2> Sorry folks, wrong channel
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[16:36] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> Is there a way for me to manually backup an Ubuntu Phone? … Example: Before doing an upgrade, making sure everything is backed up to an image or another system?
[16:37] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> i am thinking like messages, contacts, browser bookmarks etc. Not so much app specific backups.
[16:40] <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> @AlexanderPlaza, I rsync the home folder
[16:44] <ubptgbot> <unknown> @UniversalSuperBox, @AlexanderPlaza
[16:45] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> @unknown, Thanks! 😊 Just gotta look up how to get it into recovery then 😊
[16:46] <ubptgbot> <unknown> Which device?
[16:47] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @AlexanderPlaza you can use `rsync` to backup the whole `/home`, and you can use `adb` or `ssh` to copy just selected files
[16:47] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @AlexanderPlaza, you wouldn't do it from recovery
[16:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> or youd on't __need_ to do it from recovery
[16:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> [Edit] or youd on't need to do it from recovery
[16:48] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> @unknown, Nexus 5
[16:48] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> @advocatux, Ohh okay, so if I just backup the whole /home it should be good to go?
[16:48] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> @dohbee, Ahh okay
[16:49] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @AlexanderPlaza, of course you can `rsync` some files too :)
[16:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> just something like `rsync -e "ssh -l phablet" -avz nexus5:/home/phablet backup-folder/` or such
[16:50] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> to do over wifi
[16:51] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> over usb is a bit more complicated i guess
[17:05] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @AlexanderPlaza, 1) Enter recovery
[17:05] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> 2) adb pull /data/system-data and /data/user-data … 3) Done ;)
[17:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> A whole backup can only be done in recovery
[17:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> It will be part of the installer one day
[17:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dohbee, that was the old method, but all system settings and apps are lost with that
[17:07] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Flohack, apps need re-installed and wifi needs set up again, but everything else is preserved
[17:07] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> unless of course you were doing writable rootfs and screwed with some other things
[17:09] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dohbee, I still vote for the recovery backup, it will ne more consistent and ”atomic”
[17:24] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> I like things that are both consistent and atomic. I rather have more to pick and choose then not.
[17:25] <ubptgbot> <AlexanderPlaza> I assume those commands are same if I am using Ubuntu?
[18:25] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> (Photo, 1080x190) https://irc.ubports.com/xpNVpCqi.png
[18:26] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @neothethird, Hype!!
[18:26] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0nVwdyjR.mp4
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> @neothethird, Is that.... well I don't really know what that is
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @VeryOriginalUsername, the first release candidate for 16.04 OTA-4
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <Jakob> Great!!! Can I switch from rc 15.04 to rc 16.04 in an easy way? Or only with ubports installer?
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @Jakob, Only with the installer
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> @neothethird, Brb let me get my n5
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> switching across bases does not work
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> there's also a blog post coming
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @neothethird, unless you're on 16.04/devel
[18:31] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Is scrolling fixed or not yet?
[18:31] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/7
[18:31] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> not yet
[18:32] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @VeryOriginalUsername, not yet, we hope to get it fixed asap
[18:32] <ubptgbot> <Jakob> @neothethird, So I have to wait for next morning in the office 😊 , great work, guys!!!
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @neothethird, well not only
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> @neothethird, Are there only 11 known issues left for xenial? 0.o
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @dohbee, right
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Good job!
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> `sudo system-image-cli -vvvv --switch ubports-touch/16.04/rc` on the phone should do too
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @dohbee, but you can not use the system settings or system-image-cli from vivid for now
[18:34] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> why not?
[18:34] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @dohbee, or `sudo system-image-cli --switch 16.04/rc` from the phone
[18:34] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> well i just repeated what you said :P
[18:35] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> yeah you just used the alias :P
[18:35] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Also is rc1 == r439 if I understood correctly, right?
[18:35] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Whoops, no, there's a bigger update
[18:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i guess libertine is not fixed either?
[18:36] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @neothethird, with system setting you cant since that only allows across same base version, system-image-cli you can since it just redownload it all
[18:36] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> `Version 1` seems weird though
[18:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @VeryOriginalUsername, i thought it was `2018-W25`
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> revision one, but the release is 2018-W25
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> ^
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> (Photo, 1080x190) https://irc.ubports.com/6p2Nt7Mg.png
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> @VeryOriginalUsername, That's what update menu says
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> [Edit] \/
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @dohbee, right, you actually can
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> i assumed it was disabled
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> i was wrong
[18:37] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> i hope i'll find a way to deal with the shame
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @VeryOriginalUsername, i guess system-settings doesn't show the right thing for updates then
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> well, it *is* revision one
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @neothethird, i recommend an alfajor
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @VeryOriginalUsername, oh right! I'll add a bug on that, should be the same as about say
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> it just shows the revision number rather than the tag
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @VeryOriginalUsername, [Edit] oh right! I'll add a bug on that, should be the same as "about say"
[18:39] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @neothethird, true, but we should change that to tag
[18:39] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it's the primary key index value :P
[18:39] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> Fwd from UBports News Channel: Attention UBports Community! … BIG NEWS! … The first RC candidate for OTA-4 has now arrived! … Read all about it here from our own Jan (@neothethird) … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-rc-ota-4-148 … #ubuntutouch #ubports
[18:40] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> 🎉🎉🎉
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <Krakakanok> @neothethird, good!!
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <Ruben> 2 Questions: How is ota-4 for daily use, and does it run on a bq 4.5?
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <tylnesh> and m10?
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Ruben, it doesn't exist yet
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <Krakakanok> or bq 5
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it's an RC
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> not a stable release
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <vetto91> Wow!! 😃
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and yes, it will be released on all currently supported devices
[18:42] <ubptgbot> <Krakakanok> uU perfect
[18:42] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> @Ruben, this is release candiate not the ota.  and yes it works on bq 4.5. it works on all devices that supported vivid
[18:43] <ubptgbot> <Ruben> nice, I will try it on my bq4.5 (no worries, my oneplusone is my daily driver)
[18:44] <ubptgbot> <Ruben> should not have called it ota-4 :P
[18:44] <ubptgbot> <tleppiniemi> Great work guys!!
[18:46] <ubptgbot> <samitormanen> 😁👍
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> Ruben I'm using xenial on my BQ E4.5. It is not ready for daily use but it's pretty close. You can install it if you want to help to iron out the last wrinkles :)
[18:48] <ubptgbot> <Ruben> @advocatux, I will. That is the main reason I still have my bq :)
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> 👍
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> [Edit] Ruben I'm using xenial on my BQ E4.5. It is not ready for daily use yet but it's pretty close. You can install it if you want to help to iron out the last wrinkles :)
[18:49] <ubptgbot> <Xray2000> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/s5roBgio.webp
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <BlueT_Lien> ❤️❤️
[18:58] <ubptgbot> Billy Baggot was added by: Billy Baggot
[19:02] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Billy Baggot, Hi Billy, welcome!! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started !!
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[19:23] <ubptgbot> <G1ott1> 👍
[19:24] <ubptgbot> <szmalc> @neothethird, Great!
[19:25] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Looks like n5 doesn't drain battery that much anymore
[19:25] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Left it on desk for 30 mins (2g, wifi) and not a single % dropped
[19:26] <ubptgbot> <mariogrip> new power changes in effect :)
[19:28] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/08JCX7ap.png
[19:29] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> How long does it take for flashing images?
[19:29] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> It takes a pretty while to download them
[19:29] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Are there themes for unity8 maybe?
[19:30] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @VeryOriginalUsername, there are not
[19:30] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> I love everything about the interface except the multitasking tool
[19:30] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> I feel like it should be flat like on win10mobile
[19:31] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you mean the window overview?
[19:32] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Probably...
[19:38] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> @VeryOriginalUsername, Is there a command from the terminal to install 16.04 rc? Because the installation is stopped for 15 minutes
[19:40] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @GiovanniStaiano, you can switch channels directly on the phone
[19:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> if you have developer mode enabled, just adb to the phone when it's booted, and run `sudo system-image-cli -vvvv --switch 16.04/rc`
[19:42] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> @dohbee, But from the phone I can only choose channels of 15.04, right?
[19:43] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @GiovanniStaiano, in system settings, yes. but you can switch to any channel using the CLI tool
[19:44] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> @dohbee, What is the CLI tool?
[19:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @GiovanniStaiano, `system-image-cli` as I said before. it's something you run in terminal (or via adb/ssh connection to the phone)
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> @dohbee, Desktop or phone terminal?
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @GiovanniStaiano, it has to be run on the phone. your PC doesn't update via system image :)
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> @dohbee, 👍
[19:52] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> I'm on ota4-rc1 version now and my update branch is set to `release candidate`, should I set it to dev
[19:53] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> [Edit] I'm on ota4-rc1 version now and my update branch is set to `release candidate`, should I set it to dev?
[20:04] <ubptgbot> <samzn> @neothethird, @JoshuaAshton here's for your memephone
[20:04] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @VeryOriginalUsername, that depends on what you want, really
[20:04] <ubptgbot> <thepeter> is there anything more regarding libertine than what is written in "Run desktop apps" doc?
[20:05] <ubptgbot> <neothethird> @VeryOriginalUsername, devel is updated daily and *might* break from time to time, rc (=release candidate) is updated weekly and usually does not break
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> I mean, isn't there a bug that would downgrade it to pre-ota4-rc
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> [Edit] I mean, isn't there a bug that would downgrade it to pre-ota4-rc?
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <VeryOriginalUsername> Just asking before I do that
[20:11] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no
[21:11] <ubptgbot> <majster> Is nexus4 supported for latest release?
[21:13] <ubptgbot> <malditobastardo> Yes
[21:15] <ubptgbot> <majster> Thanks
[21:16] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> @GiovanniStaiano, The problem was UBports Installer snap version, instead deb version seems to work
[21:18] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> great
[21:19] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> ah you maybe didn't have fastboot and/or adb installed then, and installing the deb pulled them in too
[21:37] <ubptgbot> <GiovanniStaiano> Probably yes