[04:36] <tsimonq2> Unit193: Hey, so, what time did you say you were usually available? If you're serious about becoming a MOTU I think we should make a meeting happen.
[04:43] <Unit193> In about 4 weeks there's one at 3pm local time, that should (usually) work.
[04:46] <tsimonq2> It would be super cool if you could put your name on the agenda with a note that it's applicable for that time/
[04:46] <tsimonq2> s/\/./
[04:47] <tsimonq2> (er, s/\//./
[04:47] <tsimonq2> )
[05:27] <Flannel> s#/#.#
[05:28]  * tsimonq2 scratches head
[05:29] <Flannel> That way you don't need to escape the /
[05:29] <tsimonq2> ah
[05:31] <Unit193> I usually fall back to using '@', or randomly preferring that.
[22:12] <Unit193> Is there a page linking to criteria allowed for breaking sync with Debian?
[22:16] <Unit193> (Basically, I want to do something in a package and I'm wondering if it's considered justified and allowed to jump ahead of Debian.)
[22:26] <rbasak> I don't know that we have specific documentation on it
[22:27] <rbasak> It's pretty subjective, and heavily weighted on whoever will be looking after that package (future merges, etc).
[22:27] <rbasak> What do you have in mind?
[22:29] <Unit193> I wouldn't expect future merges, I'd expect to re-sync with Debian eventually.  oidentd update, it'd look a lot like http://paste.openstack.org/show/II8N3LG8XuVDcJ6IC5Os
[22:33] <Unit193> "Switching" upstreams may seem a bit questionable, but old homepage links to the continued project.  Also filed Debian #898378.
[22:42] <rbasak> Unit193: the risk in doing that is that if Debian does something different then you end up on the hook forever*
[22:42] <Unit193> rbasak: I do understand, though I don't see what else they would do right now.
[22:44] <rbasak> old homepage links to the continued project> that makes me happier
[22:45] <Unit193> rbasak: Since it's moving ahead of Debian, specifically to a new home, I'd understand entirely if it's rejected.  Clearly, I'm interested in getting this in Debian either way, but so far no response from the maintainer.
[22:46] <rbasak> Part of Ubuntu's model is exactly to be able to address this sooner than Debian's model of waiting a very long time for a single maintainer before an NMU
[22:46] <rbasak> So yeah, you can do it in Ubuntu. It's a trade-off though.
[22:46] <rbasak> What's your interest in having this updated?
[22:47] <Unit193> It's something I use, moving to a much more maintained model would be a great move, and there were a couple features/bugfixes in a recent version that fix a problem I was having.
[23:04] <rbasak> What kind of commitment do you think you could make to looking after it in Ubuntu until (and taking that risk) we can sync with Debian again?
[23:04] <rbasak> To be clear, it's not my decision :)
[23:04] <rbasak> I think that as long as you're willing to look after it then bumping it in Ubuntu seems reasonable, especially as there is no controversy with upstream referring the replacemnet upstream.
[23:07] <rbasak> Why do you use an ident daemon anyway? :)
[23:30] <Unit193> Well, it's either maintain it so others can use it or maintain it in my own PPA.  The only "problem" I'd forsee is either getting hit by a car, or moving to Debian myself (and even then, I'd like to think I'd finish out my committment.)  I'm also in contact with upstream, if that helps.  And, well...Only for IRC.  It looks cleaner without the tilde, and one of my servers has a ZNC with someone else
[23:30] <Unit193> on it, and it's highly recommended to have ident so that if needed, a specific user can be banned (either network wide or from a channel.  Though I don't expect I'd need that.)
[23:53] <Unit193> rbasak: If it helps, I have interests in being a MOTU member, already am part of the Xubuntu packageset.