| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 07:26 |
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| zmoylan-pi | o/ | 07:32 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 07:32 |
| diplo | Morning all | 07:56 |
| brobostigon | morning | 07:57 |
| Knight_Wrk | hey brobostigon | 08:46 |
| Knight_Wrk | hey diplo | 08:47 |
| brobostigon | hi Knight_Wrk | 08:47 |
| diplo | Any of you guys Mac users here ? | 11:38 |
| mgdm | o/ | 12:05 |
| mgdm | diplo: ^ | 12:05 |
| diplo | Just having an issue with Mac mail, smtp server settings keeps removing / changing port or hostname on its own | 12:05 |
| diplo | There is a setting saying Automaticaly detect and maintain account settigns which we untick | 12:06 |
| diplo | But it still changes | 12:06 |
| mgdm | Hmm. What do they change to? Have you got any SRV records which are incorrect? | 12:06 |
| diplo | From say 465 -> 25 | 12:06 |
| diplo | So I take it that it needs autodiscover records to work, we've never used them... always manually enter ( only a very small company ) | 12:07 |
| diplo | But I did suggest that as what could be the problem | 12:07 |
| mgdm | I'm not sure if you provide your email yourselves or use someone else, but it wouldn't hurt to check those and maybe update them if you can | 12:07 |
| mgdm | something like `dig _submission._tcp.example.org` might tell you what it thinks they are? | 12:08 |
| diplo | We provide mail ourself, so we just normally enter mail.domain.tld - ssl with 993/465 but since a recent update ( this has been working for 5 years ) the mac keeps changing just the SMTP details | 12:09 |
| diplo | ok, will take a look ta | 12:09 |
| diplo | All the references I find for autodiscover etc are for use with 365 which was why I guessed it wasn't used by default, may add some records to try it | 12:11 |
| mgdm | 365 use the same mechanism as the RFC, you can add your own if you like, it's described here https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-daboo-srv-email-05.html#rfc.section.3.1 | 12:12 |
| diplo | OK, well I've added the record, wait for it to propogate and see if that makes a difference | 12:15 |
| mgdm | cool | 12:16 |
| mgdm | hope it helps :-) | 12:16 |
| diplo | Thanks, should have just tried it earlier, will add imap as well even though it already works :) | 12:17 |
| daftykins | sounds like it's trying to change from SSL to plain? | 13:07 |
| diplo | Yeah, but not sure why | 13:12 |
| daftykins | one of the many reasons i don't like macs, so little feedback in UIs to tell you what's going on. | 13:12 |
| diplo | Yup exactly, apparently there is a log, but it shows nothing :) | 13:13 |
| daftykins | what's changed about the one today? is it a newer OS than the usual ones? | 13:13 |
| zmoylan-pi | maybe you're logging it wrong? :-p | 13:13 |
| diplo | Only our boss has a mac, last week it just started changing SMTP details, be it hostname or ports | 13:14 |
| diplo | Waiting to hear back from bosses, they went on a lunch date, so that can be anywhere from an hour to three | 13:14 |
| daftykins | :) | 13:15 |
| daftykins | bah i had an amazing deal desktop system from the Dell Outlet but they've cancelled it due to 'technical reasons' | 13:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | an absent boss is a boos that doesn't get in your way as smuch | 13:16 |
| diplo | I'mm not in their office anyway, about 200 miles away | 13:16 |
| diplo | But always the one who has to fix stuff :/ | 13:16 |
| * zmoylan-pi loans diplo my long handled hammer... :-) | 13:16 | |
| diplo | heheh | 13:17 |
| daftykins | can always toss on Thunderbird for mac i suppose, mozilla are meant to have finally put a dev on it again | 13:17 |
| diplo | Just installing the tmnations snap on my work PC \o/ hope it runs, graphics are rubbish on here | 13:17 |
| daftykins | though i find it so nasty to extract data from that i regret ever putting it in for anyone | 13:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | some day it will do email! :-P | 13:17 |
| diplo | My boss was doing that just before I left to prove it was the mac mail software and not the server | 13:18 |
| diplo | Albeit, 17 other members of staff aren't affected | 13:18 |
| daftykins | but they're non-mac? | 13:19 |
| daftykins | oh i get what you mean | 13:22 |
| diplo | heh yep, sorry,trying to multi task and failing | 13:23 |
| daftykins | nah i missed the obvious train of thought | 13:23 |
| diplo | It appears the autodiscover did the trick, apparently been working since lunchtime | 15:28 |
| diplo | Which is when I amended it | 15:28 |
| daftykins | neat, i know you need that for MS Outlook on mac, but didn't think it was required for the Mail app on standard setups too o0 | 15:32 |
| diplo | You didn't | 15:34 |
| diplo | Stopped working last week | 15:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | for any b5 fans knocking about... https://i.imgur.com/IE2uXow.gifv | 20:44 |
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