[04:19] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:21] <ducasse> good morning
[06:22] <lordievader> Hey ducasse How are you doing?
[06:36] <ducasse> hi lordievader - all well, thanks, and you?
[06:36] <lordievader> Doing okay here.
[06:38] <ducasse> goodie, enjoy your morning :) rain expected here today
[06:39] <lordievader> Not very great weather here either.
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:39] <lordievader> 👋
[12:14] <BluesKaj> well, Canada is 3 months away from cannabis legalization, the nbill has passed both houses of parliament and  is now in the hands of the buireaucrats to set up the distribution and othe paramaters
[12:15] <BluesKaj> the Provinces have some jurisdiction like legal age and the distribution/store fronts etc
[12:18] <lbdesign> If the bill has passed two houses what more does it have to pass?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> lbdesign:  no more, it's a done deal, it's just going to take time for the law to be implemented
[12:28] <BluesKaj> lbdesign:  we have to 2 houses of parliament, the house of commons and the senate ... if you were joking about passing houses , well, i won't comment on your attempt at humoor :-)
[12:35] <BluesKaj> http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/senate-passes-government-pot-bill-1.4713222
[12:40] <lbdesign> I'm Norwegian and don't know Canadian politics so the question was sincear. My question was more abouut whom could veto the bill.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> lbdesign:  there's no veto in Canada's parliament, only if there are enough votes in parliament to pass a bill ...this is not like the US, where the presisent can veto certain bills passed by their congress
[13:04] <lbdesign> so why the wait? Just to get law enforcement and buirecratic bullshit in order?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:29] <BluesKaj>  cannabis impaired driving a vehicle on public roads has become a major concern/issue for the provinces' law enforcement  since that's their legal jurisdiction
[13:33] <lbdesign> But it's the law. How long before they cache up?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> I don't know , the debate right now is between the old method of alcohol impairment vs THC  blood levels and how to measure impairment. It's difficult since  THC remains in blood for up top 6 weeks  in minute quantities, but the real debate is what levels will constittute THC impairement.  There is no device that can measure THC blood levels at the roadside atm.
[13:47] <guiverc> BluesKaj, howdy, are you pleased, not pleased or don't care about change?   as for roads, I thought our police [vic au] had a test they did (on occasion) on drivers, beyond alcohol (blow until I tell you to stop), a small % are taken into van for testing for thc  - from what you said, maybe results come later & police door knock later & remove car/drivers-licence (I've never cared to know with thc)
[13:56] <BluesKaj> guiverc: yeah, reliable a roadside test for THC isn't available yet, but impaired driving by alcohol or drugs has been surpassed by idiots texting while driving, killing innocent drivers and themselves
[13:57] <BluesKaj> here in Canada
[13:59] <BluesKaj> I'm for cannabis legalization , the junk added to the street pot can be dangerous, best to have some quality control over it
[14:01] <guiverc> using phones [whilst driving] is a real hot police issue here too... (alcohol & drugs always are; quite a few big blue booze buses (& ~2 drug) used in (transporting cops & testing drivers) on random-testing here...
[14:03] <guiverc> weed is illegal in my state, a brother lives in a state (sa) where its not-illegal (i forget the term, de-criminalized maybe), can't be sold, but max 5 plants per property are okay from memory
[14:05] <BluesKaj> it's gona be 4 plants here
[14:06] <guiverc> sa (south aust) was 3 plants I think originally; then increased to 5...  (i only remember as i used it to stir my brother when he moved to that state..)
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Cannabis and other drugs  are under federal jurisdiction here, the provinces have some say, but the overall resposibility and court jurisdiction is federal.  After the legislation goes into effect the sentence for selling pot illegally will be up to 14 yrs...kind of excessive IMO
[14:09] <guiverc> sure sounds excessive (to me too!)
[14:11] <guiverc> but if your courts are like ours, that'll be the max sentence which is barely if ever used.. (judges discretion applies here with legislation treated as maximum)
[14:11] <BluesKaj> yeah, there's alot of opposition to that part of the law,. It will most likely be amended before the legal date to sell and buy comes around
[14:13] <BluesKaj> one of the reasons to legalize is the due to the number of court cases generated by small pot possession busts
[14:14] <guiverc> you don't have magistrates to hear those (taking the burden from 'courts'), or do you treat the magistrates court as part of the 'court' system?
[14:14] <JimBuntu> The best reason is to seriously look at WHY it's currently not legal/criminal. Does it have basis and merit.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> the courts here are plugged with cops trying make aname for thjemselves busting kids and charging them with "intent to sell" if caught with more than an ounce/28 grams
[14:17] <guiverc> though - the big difference BluesKaj is the federal law applying to you.. (i just realize!) as drugs are handled state wise here, local magistrates down the road deal with the issue here... well before going to state level, as federal law isn't involved here...
[14:18] <guiverc> ouch.  glad we don't have that issue here (with drugs, here i've only heard of cops making a name for themselves with confiscating cars allegedly used for hooning etc..)
[14:20] <JimBuntu> I had not heard of "hooning". I get it now. That appears not to be a globally used word
[14:23] <guiverc> hooning - a word i hear regularly on local news..  -- i looked at duckduck & it had a definition so I don't feel so bad :)
[14:24] <guiverc> "Hoon  A hoon, in Australia and New Zealand, is a person who deliberately drives a vehicle in a reckless or dangerous manner, generally in order to provoke a reaction from onlookers..."  (wikipedia)
[14:26] <BluesKaj> nutbars here :-)
[14:26] <guiverc> :)
[14:39] <JimBuntu> for sure, don't feel bad for using it, we have the glory of search engines at our fingertips, lol.
[15:07] <oerheks> oh no, don't unplug the multicard reader ..
[15:07] <JimBuntu> lol
[15:12] <leftyfb> god damn he's the worst
[15:14] <oerheks> worse that Crazytux?
[15:15] <leftyfb> not sure I was overly active during that time
[15:24] <JimBuntu> 1 can of beer says he has something plugged into the reader/writer or such.
[15:27] <oerheks> 2 cans of beer, he did disable secure boot, but not fastboot
[15:27] <oerheks> 3 cans of beer, he is on WSL
[15:28] <leftyfb> oerheks: now now :)
[16:08] <oerheks> Meltdown and Spectre .. along with their many variations [1, 2, 3] are all timing attacks
[16:08] <oerheks> good thing to shutdown HT
[16:08] <oerheks> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/openbsd-disables-intel-cpu-hyper-threading-due-to-security-concerns/
[16:16] <daftykins> wouldn't bother personally :)
[16:18] <nacc> it seems very hypothetical right now; i wonder if there is a undisclosed CVE
[16:18] <daftykins> i'm still waiting on the next microcode update from intel for v4
[16:18] <daftykins> :)
[16:18] <daftykins> it's probably going to be like this all year
[16:22] <leftyfb> aren't all the new chips coming out with fixes for this?
[16:22] <leftyfb> coffeelake?
[16:23] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet not enough has changed in them
[16:24] <leftyfb> https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/03/16/intel-spectre-meltdown-cpu-fix-coffee-lake/
[16:24] <daftykins> yes, but more have been announced since they produced that
[16:25] <nacc> leftyfb: aiui, this is architectural in HT, not sure it's fixed
[16:25] <nacc> but i really don't know and i imagine they are mostly reducing the possibility of the timing attack
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[17:21] <pauljw> hi everyone
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> that qwebirc fella asking every hour other questions..troll?
[17:32] <oerheks> if it is the same ip..
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> yeah in theory it could be every new guy
[18:01] <leftyfb> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9zwTFytrsP/
[18:01] <leftyfb> different people
[18:58] <oerheks> !yellowpages suse
[22:38] <oerheks> https://www.bing.com/search?q=ubuntu+18%2F04+bug+no+wobbly+windows