[15:01] <rbalint> o/
[15:01] <tribaal> o/
[15:01] <rbalint> tribaal, o/ :-)
[15:01] <tribaal> hi rbalint :)
[15:01] <juliank> intruder alert!
[15:01] <philroche> \o o/ \o
[15:01] <tribaal> hehe
[15:01] <rcj> o/
[15:02] <tribaal> hi juliank rcj philroche
[15:02]  * tribaal will listen quietly from the back of the class
[15:02]  * tribaal just wanted to say hi :)
[15:03] <bdmurray> tribaal: this is open to community members
[15:03]  * slangasek waves
[15:03] <cyphermox> o/
[15:03]  * philroche deletes all anti tribaal rants from his weekly update
[15:03] <tribaal> hi bdmurray slangasek cyphermox
[15:03] <tribaal> bdmurray: ah well then :) I'm here :)
[15:03] <Odd_Bloke> tribaal: o/
[15:03] <tribaal> Odd_Bloke: o/
[15:04] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:04] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 21 15:04:08 2018 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:04] <fginther> hey tribaal
[15:04] <tribaal> hi fginther
[15:04] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:04] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e slangasek bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke juliank fginther)
[15:04] <slangasek> infinity bdmurray sil2100 mwhudson rcj philroche slangasek fginther tdaitx doko cyphermox Odd_Bloke rbalint juliank xnox
[15:04] <slangasek> no infinity so bdmurray
[15:04] <bdmurray> submitted RT 112238 regarding retracers being unable to connect to cassandra
[15:04] <bdmurray> updated RT 112238 as it still wasn't working (sorted now)
[15:04] <bdmurray> emailed cassandra charm dev regarding issues with cassandra charm (twice)
[15:04] <bdmurray> tested latest version of the cassandra charm (multiple times)
[15:04] <bdmurray> modified daisy to kick kodi and mysql-workbench crashes to the end of line
[15:04] <bdmurray> reviewed mojo spec changes from IS (needed fixing, now merged)
[15:05] <bdmurray> tested initramfs-tools fix for LP: #1768230 (good)
[15:05] <bdmurray> submitted sru_workflow MP regarding time to release to -updates (needs review)
[15:05] <bdmurray> reviewed unowned packages from package to team mapping
[15:05] <bdmurray> irc discussion with powersj regarding possible expiration of KPI data
[15:05] <bdmurray> modified point release process to include updating u-r-u (mirrors list)
[15:05] <bdmurray> RT was submitted for the above
[15:05] <bdmurray> special SRU review of lxcfs for stgraber
[15:05] <bdmurray> talked with IS about RT 108968 - outstanding MP, got it merged
[15:05] <bdmurray> submitted RT re flipping four failed queue retracers to the regular queue due to backlog
[15:05] <bdmurray> submitted MP re package-subscribers (ubuntu-archive-tools) and dropping teams
[15:05] <bdmurray> identified and documented packages that would be abandoned by dropping teams
[15:05] <bdmurray> discussion with juliank regarding noawait trigger fixing
[15:05] <bdmurray> submitted mojo spec MP locking down cassandra version, skipping nagios check for rabbitmq (merged)
[15:05] <bdmurray> searching for more trigger changes to noawait
[15:05] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:06] <bdmurray> sil2100:
[15:07] <xnox> bah
[15:07] <bdmurray> rcj:
[15:07] <rcj> * cloud-image care and feeding
[15:08] <rcj> * eks image development
[15:08] <rcj> * work on bringing the AWS SSM agent snap back to Xenial AMIs
[15:08] <rcj> (done)
[15:08] <philroche> * Cloud image build system vanguard
[15:08] <philroche> * Minimal image verification
[15:08] <philroche> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek>  * short week; was off Mon/Tue
[15:09] <slangasek>  * spent some time looking into ghc armhf SIGBUSes to no avail
[15:09] <slangasek>  * discussions around cloud-init and locale settings (LP: #1134036)
[15:09] <slangasek>  * progress on being able to include openssh-server in the server seed (LP: #1576353)
[15:09] <slangasek>  * misc SRU and NEW review work
[15:09] <slangasek> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek> fginther:
[15:09] <fginther> * Out two days for holiday
[15:09] <fginther> * Transering some image builds to a new host
[15:09] <fginther> * Other build system work
[15:09] <fginther> ✔ done
[15:10] <tdaitx> Short week: 6/h day past week; 5 hours away this week
[15:10] <tdaitx> * JCK 8:
[15:10] <tdaitx>   - solved kerberos configuration for jck runtime
[15:10] <tdaitx>   - minimizing errors/failures for more reliable automation:
[15:10] <tdaitx>     - testing different window managers to fix UI tests
[15:10] <tdaitx>     - exploring different concurrency settings & test subsets
[15:10] <tdaitx> * OpenJDK 7 security update:
[15:10] <tdaitx>   - eclipse fails to start with zero vm in amd64/i386
[15:10] <tdaitx>   - trying to reproduce on armhf or powerpc where zerovm is the default
[15:10] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:10] <slangasek> doko:
[15:11] <cyphermox> no doko?
[15:11] <slangasek> cyphermox:
[15:11] <cyphermox> - Monday off
[15:11] <cyphermox> - shim-review: Cumulus
[15:11] <cyphermox> - review/discuss grub-efi cohabitation with grub-pc
[15:11] <cyphermox> - qemu / libvirt / edk2 work to ship preloaded MS certs and SecureBoot enabled
[15:11] <cyphermox> - netplan still blocked due to pandoc
[15:12] <cyphermox> - verifying SRUs: shim-signed, initramfs-tools
[15:12] <cyphermox> - systemd: reworking Shutdown= code
[15:12] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:12] <doko> sorry
[15:12] <Odd_Bloke> * Cloud images vanguard for the coming week
[15:12] <Odd_Bloke> * Fixed hg-git tests in cosmic to help unblock migrations
[15:12] <Odd_Bloke> * Mostly small bits and pieces otherwise
[15:12] <cpaelzer> FYI there was a qemu-efi-secureboot rejected in #ubuntu-release this morning - guess that is related cyphermox?
[15:12] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[15:12] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: it is
[15:12] <rbalint> (short week)
[15:12] <rbalint> * released unattended-upgrades 1.3 fixing several regressions
[15:12] <rbalint> * uploaded unattended-upgrades bionic SRU fixing several regressions
[15:12] <rbalint> * uploads through Debian: meld
[15:13] <rbalint> * discussions about locking in dpkg/apt/u-u/etc.
[15:13] <rbalint> * discussions about WSL support in Ubuntupa
[15:13] <rbalint> * things i can't talk about
[15:13] <rbalint> (done)
[15:13] <doko> - gcc-5 security update for xenial
[15:13] <doko> - python 3.6.6 and 3.7.0 release candidates
[15:13] <doko> - ftbfs-report patches for combined archive reports, and a never built status
[15:13] <doko> - transitions, openmpi ready, r-base nearly ready, now reset again with new debian import
[15:13] <doko>   THIS work eats too much time
[15:13] <doko>   and some minor transitions ...
[15:13] <doko> - archive work, remove nbs binaries in proposed
[15:13] <doko> - openjdk meeting
[15:13] <doko> (done)
[15:13] <juliank> * {,python-}apt work:
[15:13] <juliank>   - Explained frontend locking implications for apt clients
[15:13] <juliank>   - Made python-apt use CI on salsa, and build API documentation on https://apt-team.pages.debian.net/python-apt/
[15:13] <juliank>   - Uploaded new apt snapshot to cosmic
[15:13] <juliank>   - Working on locking fixes for python-apt for unattended-upgrades
[15:13] <juliank>   - A magical new solver using pseudo-boolean optimization https://salsa.debian.org/apt-team/apt-solver-kalel/
[15:13] <juliank> * Fixed update-notifier bug 1641671 (xenial,artful,bionic); and verified it
[15:13] <juliank> * Fixed networkd-dispatcher bug 1772137 (bionic, cosmic)
[15:13] <juliank> * Further work on grub secure boot policy check (getting to the finish line)
[15:13] <juliank> * Setup yubikey
[15:13] <juliank> (done)
[15:15] <juliank> xnox:
[15:16] <xnox> is it
[15:16] <rcj> o/
[15:16] <juliank> yes
[15:16] <xnox> fixed python-oslo.vmware autopkgtest
[15:16] <xnox> finished finalrd implementation; sent to juliank for review; then will publish it to the team / publically
[15:16] <xnox> https://git.launchpad.net/finalrd/tree/finalrd.pod
[15:16] <xnox> preparing systemd sru for nvidia DRM & tmpfiles issues
[15:16] <xnox> done
[15:16] <slangasek> xnox: sweet :)
[15:17] <slangasek> doko:
[15:17] <juliank> slangasek: he already did
[15:17] <slangasek> oh
[15:17] <gaughen> slangasek, doko already went. He even shouted "THIS"
[15:17] <slangasek> yes
[15:17] <slangasek> yes and I even read it, but I didn't clear the flag in my brain NEVERMIND
[15:17] <slangasek> ok, any questions on status or about my sanity?
[15:18] <cyphermox> is it the same issue as your browser?
[15:18] <gaughen> ha
[15:18] <cyphermox> no Qs.
[15:19] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[15:19] <slangasek> bdmurray: anything to discuss?
[15:19] <bdmurray> bug 1574351
[15:19] <gaughen> oh yes
[15:19] <bdmurray> Its been around for a bit and seems to still be an issue on bionic
[15:19] <juliank> eww
[15:19] <slangasek> interesting
[15:19] <slangasek> people are installing !amd64 libperl?
[15:20] <bdmurray> I thought I saw a bug about installing some printer drivers maybe.
[15:20] <slangasek> ah
[15:20] <slangasek> so that's "easy", just requires fixing the package build so that the changelog is compressed reproducibly
[15:20] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1770682
[15:21] <slangasek> +1, worth fixing
[15:21] <bdmurray> Well that wasn't helpful. "Scanner driver failed to install"
[15:21]  * juliank looks at libperl in cosmic
[15:21] <juliank> it's broken too
[15:22] <bdmurray> okay, I'll card it for 18.04.1. What queue should it go in?
[15:22] <slangasek> bdmurray: gen distro
[15:22] <slangasek> bdmurray: I wouldn't consider it 18.04.1-critical however, if it's been outstanding for this long
[15:22] <bdmurray> ack
[15:22] <rcj> bug 1775219 bdmurray? I don't think the hack is appropriate so I'm looking to know if an error message change could be made.
[15:23] <bdmurray> rcj: for what release?
[15:23] <bdmurray> rcj: an error message change seems reasonable
[15:24] <rcj> cosmic to start but I'd hope for an SRU back to bionic and xenial.  All the cloud images clear out the package lists to save space so they're all affected until first refresh
[15:24] <rcj> bdmurray: thx
[15:24] <rcj> bug 1775291 (forgot to add coreutils until today)
[15:24] <bdmurray> rcj: And an apt update isn't run after install? I think a ubiquity install does an update on first boot.
[15:25] <rcj> bdmurray: apt update isn't run until first unattended upgrade window (otherwise we'd hammer cloud mirrors when people spin up many VMs)
[15:26] <bdmurray> rcj: okay, fair enough.
[15:26] <rcj> bug 1775291 (forgot to add coreutils until today)  This is an oddity seen on minimal images slangasek
[15:26] <bdmurray> rcj: What are you looking for there?
[15:26] <slangasek> rcj: is that because we're booting initramfsless?
[15:27] <slangasek> right, description confirms
[15:27] <slangasek> so, that's cool
[15:27] <bdmurray> xnox: Could you have a look at bug 1767299.
[15:27] <rcj> we've worked around it in our testing but it's odd behavior.  df says / is /dev/root but mount still says /dev/sda1.
[15:27] <slangasek> yeah
[15:27] <rcj> So when you 'df /dev/sda1' it gives you /dev
[15:27] <slangasek> that's a tough one
[15:27] <rcj> (closest match)
[15:28] <slangasek> so, I guess we should dig into it, we don't want initramfsless cloud images to have broken df behavior
[15:28] <rcj> yeah, and I was surprised 1) by the change in behavior and 2) by the mount/df difference
[15:28] <slangasek> I'm not sure if coreutils is the right way to fix it
[15:28] <gaughen> slangasek, is it a release blocker?
[15:28] <slangasek> I wouldn't say so
[15:28] <gaughen> k
[15:28] <rcj> sorry, I found it with 'df' so I opened on coreutils.  But brought it up here because I'm not sure where it should go.
[15:30] <slangasek> rcj: yeah, reasonable place to start
[15:30] <slangasek> so, probably worth taking into the backlog
[15:31] <slangasek> any other bugs?
[15:31] <bdmurray> bug 1771845
[15:32] <bdmurray> cyphermox: ^^
[15:36] <bdmurray> Okay, I'll create a card for that for 18.04.1
[15:36] <slangasek> oh is that the root cause? neat
[15:36] <bdmurray> xnox: bug 1651818 is assigned to you
[15:36] <bdmurray> someone also added a patch to that fwiw
[15:37] <slangasek> I've been aware of that bug and it warrants fixing, but also AFAIK it doesn't impact any configurations that you arrive at via our installer?
[15:38] <bdmurray> Ah, I see xnox's comment, #3, about that now.
[15:39] <bdmurray> So let's skip that one.
[15:39] <bdmurray> doko: are you aware of bug 1663280?
[15:42] <bdmurray> let's have infinity take a look at that one
[15:43] <bdmurray> slangasek: that's all I have
[15:43] <slangasek> ok
[15:43] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:43] <slangasek> anything else today?
[15:43] <bdmurray> I'll be out tomorrow
[15:45] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:45] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jun 21 15:45:27 2018 UTC.
[15:45] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-06-21-15.04.moin.txt
[15:45] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[15:45] <tribaal> see you all around :)
[15:45] <slangasek> tribaal: bye :)
[16:02] <gaughen> bye tribaal!
[16:07] <tribaal> bye gaughen!
[17:10] <chiluk> Hey hey community Council folks..  https://community.ubuntu.com/t/community-council-meeting-agendas-schedule/708
[17:19] <wxl> chiluk: yeah we've had some difficulties getting together and we've been discussing alternative methodologies but have not resolved it yet. is there a particular concern you have?
[17:19] <chiluk> Nope.. just saw it on my calendar, and thought I'd see what was going on.
[17:20] <wxl> chiluk: yeah i'll run something up the flagpole again. thanks for keeping watch! :)