[07:29] <diplo> Morning all
[07:42] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:10] <Laney> quiet in here!
[08:12]  * brobostigon looks around, yep, pretty quiet.
[08:15] <diplo> Always quiet :)
[08:15] <diplo> They're all in telegram now
[08:43] <Laney> psssssssshhhhhhhhhh
[08:46] <Azelphur> This fancy new battery optimisation stuff in 4.17.2 is awesome, I bought myself an XPS 13 9360R which arrived yesterday. Decided to torture test the battery, left it running overnight playing video with the display on max brightness, 6h30m later it's still going strong with 39% remaining
[08:47] <Laney> oh god I need more battery
[08:47] <Laney> my older XPS 13 sux
[08:47] <Laney> I'll get a low battery warning after like 2.5 hours
[08:48] <Laney> hidpi screen though, had to expect it to be not great
[08:49] <brobostigon> similarly i think my laitude only has something like 50 odd percent battery capacity.
[08:49] <brobostigon> latitude*
[08:57] <diplo> My HP lasts 20mins :)
[09:00] <brobostigon> when i moved 5 weeks ago, i digged out my old psion series 5 as my portable computing device, :)
[09:01] <diplo> One of my kids turned on one of my old bricks the other day, still had battery in it.. booted up!
[09:02] <brobostigon> :)
[09:02] <brobostigon> wih there was better documentation though for opl, the programming language for it.
[09:02] <brobostigon> wish*
[11:30] <diddledan> yikes, brobostigon , how _old_ was that brick?!
[11:31] <diddledan> psion.. 90s?
[11:31] <brobostigon> diddledan: 98, yes.
[11:31] <diddledan> I had a friend who owned a psion. I didn't understand what he got out of it.. glorified calculator
[11:32] <zmoylan-pi> it's a psion, the rolls royce of the pda world... of course it was ok
[11:32] <brobostigon> :D
[11:32] <zmoylan-pi> i used a psion as my main home pc for years...
[11:32] <brobostigon> and it still works beautifully.
[11:32] <zmoylan-pi> /upgrading/ to a pc was such a let down :-)
[11:32] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: but WIMP!
[11:33] <zmoylan-pi> but i don't want to even know if anyone ever started ripping cds to mp3 on a psion.... :-P
[11:33] <diddledan> eep
[11:33] <diddledan> did they have enough storage for more than one mp3?
[11:34] <zmoylan-pi> when i swapped to pc it took my amd-k6-2 with 32mb of ram running win95b 8 hours to rip one cd...
[11:34] <zmoylan-pi> sure you could put the ibm microdrive 340mb of minature hard drive in cf slot...
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> an actual hard drive in cf card format...
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> i don't think there's a piece of hardware half as cool as that right now... :-)
[11:36] <daftykins> brobostigon: aww my folks found my psion 3c, but on flapping it open the hinges snapped :( still haven't cleaned up the rubber that's gone all sticky and unpleasant, too
[11:36] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqW5ynwFxas
[11:36] <zmoylan-pi> there's a place still going that fixes them...
[11:36] <daftykins> also, thinking they'd never find it again, i think i binned my floppies of PsiWin - so now i have a psion and the serial sync cable but no software
[11:37] <zmoylan-pi> or selling them... so so tempted...
[11:37] <daftykins> heh i wouldn't spend a single penny on that old thing though really
[11:38] <brobostigon> daftykins: oh well, :(
[11:38] <zmoylan-pi> now if it had of been a psion ii you could have driven a land rover over it and it would still be fine... :-0
[11:38] <zmoylan-pi> * :-)
[11:38] <diddledan> surely you're confusing it with a nokia?
[11:38] <daftykins> all zmoylan-pi's stories are starting to run together ;)
[11:39] <zmoylan-pi> no no, i think every psion ii user i knew back then had run over their psion with a land rover... sometimes they had to borrow the psion AND the land rover to do it...
[11:40] <zmoylan-pi> they'd be super careful until they put the psion on the roof of the land rover to open the door and then forget it... and one more psion run over by a land rover story...
[11:47] <daftykins> xD
[11:47] <zmoylan-pi> one psion was run over at least 3 times...
[11:48] <zmoylan-pi> 'why are their tyre tracks on the case'?
[11:48] <daftykins> and now you just have to look at glass built 'phones for them to crack
[11:49] <zmoylan-pi> accidently bounced my nokia asha 302 of tiled floor over the weekend... a bad one. case opened and battery fell out
[11:49] <daftykins> this is pretty fun, with help from my ol' volunteer pals from #ubuntu i wrote a BASH script which takes a DVD ISO, ignores all the menu and trailer rubbish, spitting out a matrosk container (.mkv) with just the video, english audio, subtitles and chapter markers
[11:50] <daftykins> lst night i kicked it off against a clients collection of over 900 of the things :O
[11:50] <daftykins> as an example, it reduced 12 James Bond films from 95GB to 55GB
[11:50] <zmoylan-pi> i aimed for ripping dvds to arounf 300mb each.  they look great on mobile screens
[11:51] <zmoylan-pi> next time i go to hospital my 128mb usb drive has a tonne of movies to watch
[11:51] <daftykins> this is keeping them 1:1 since storage doesn't really matter, very fun task though
[11:52] <zmoylan-pi> took me about 18months to rip my dvd collection on my mac mini. 1-2 per day... more on the weekend. ruined the mac mini optical drive mind
[11:52] <daftykins> at his place we have a few PCs in bedrooms and TV areas etc for discless library playback from Kodi
[11:52] <daftykins> :D
[11:52] <daftykins> we hired a kid to do it for cheap
[11:53] <daftykins> also redid his music collection to FLAC at the same time, now i handle the new stuff
[11:53] <zmoylan-pi> and hopefully backed up off site so you don't have to do it again if asteroid hits the house?
[11:53] <daftykins> gotta rip to FLAC, transfer to the 3 different homes he has to keep them all up to date, oy
[11:53] <zmoylan-pi> that's 1 busy pigeon... :-D
[11:53] <daftykins> yep! got a copy of the whole library on a NAS in the London pad now, 2 x 10TB disks in there
[11:54] <daftykins> mmm we still haven't trained it to plug it in at the other end though
[11:55] <zmoylan-pi> do you get a call out everytime they release a new bond movie? :-)
[11:56] <zmoylan-pi> you'll need a tux for onsite calls :-P
[11:56] <zmoylan-pi> an not a onsie penguin suit...
[11:57] <daftykins> the man drives me insane for having a super expensive AV setup in 3 homes, yet buying standard DVDs still >_<
[11:58] <daftykins> i asked if he wanted to borrow my Dad's VHS collection to go further still xD
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> dvd is good enough, especially if the movies you want are made pre blu ray
[11:58] <daftykins> mmm not on a 4K TV
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> getting a film made in 40s or 50s on blu ray won't add much to image
[11:59] <daftykins> quite amusing opening a DVD in a player on a PC connected to a 4K TV, it looks like a thumbnail at 1:1
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> and if he's rich enough to afford it his eyesight might no longer be good enough to appreciate it :-)
[11:59] <daftykins> whilst i agree with that, even getting a 720p source for older stuff will scale nicer
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> he needs 8k :-D
[12:00] <daftykins> yeah i did notice he doesn't put his specs on to watch so no wonder he couldn't notice the difference with a bluray
[12:00] <daftykins> but it's also about the audio of course, the newer fancier formats that he's spent to be able to make use of... then doesn't
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> a gamer i know was asking if he should upgrade to 4k cable tv. he wears glasses like coke bottles.... i told him to watch it in shop before buying as his eyesight was so bad it would be wasted on him
[12:01] <daftykins> :>
[12:01] <daftykins> the resolution component is rubbish, but HDR is ace - super bright vibrant colours
[12:03] <zmoylan-pi> i watch my movies on tiny screens. as long as i can read the sub titles on seven samurai it's good enough...
[12:04] <diddledan> a properly re-scanned film (i.e. celluloid) looks amazing in high def compared to dvd
[12:04] <daftykins> indeed
[12:04] <zmoylan-pi> wait till you're older and your eyesight is knackered :-)
[12:05] <daftykins> sadly on some levels i'm already there due to a pesky condition that causes my eyelids to swell up with the normal eye lubricating fluid
[12:06] <daftykins> the ducts block resulting in the above - and making my vision pretty sub-par
[12:06] <zmoylan-pi> switch to nvidia... the tears of anguish will help... :-P
[12:07] <daftykins> i always use nvidia \o/ whilst they may do some evil things at times, since i don't use desktop Linux everything is fine for me :>
[12:07] <knightw0rk> heya
[12:08] <daftykins> and i think even if i did, i wouldn't get my underwear in a twist over silly things like wanting to use Wayland before it even reaches feature parity with X.org
[12:08] <daftykins> knightw0rk: hey \o all well?
[12:08] <zmoylan-pi> seems nvidia has a bit of glut atm with crypto currency tanking a little
[12:08] <knightw0rk> hey daftykins yeah , i'm ok :) home working today so that always nice
[12:08] <daftykins> :D nice
[12:08] <daftykins> same here, although that's the norm with self employment
[12:09] <zmoylan-pi> so... who's computing commando? :-P
[12:11] <daftykins> i've a feeling my cat didn't get dressed this morning
[12:12] <daftykins> i'm on Dell live chat right now trying to find out why my 'Outlet' orders keep failing :(
[12:13] <zmoylan-pi> and where do you live again?
[12:14] <daftykins> totally not Terrorism central
[12:14] <zmoylan-pi> and how many ways have they tried to deny that their deliveries are handled by vampires who can't cross water?
[12:20] <diddledan> bastids
[12:20] <daftykins> hehe, sadly it doesn't even get that far
[12:21] <daftykins> i just never see an order confirmation
[12:21] <daftykins> i lost out on 1, possibly 2 really good spec systems for cheap already :(
[12:21] <diddledan> bah
[12:21] <diddledan> that's annoying
[12:21] <zmoylan-pi> check your family for a relative on mainland who can reship it?
[12:22] <daftykins> i'd pay the VAT then, unthinkable
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> fair point...
[12:22] <daftykins> what with my tax dodging location the first was a 7th gen i5 with 8GB RAM and 250GB SSD for £280 :O
[12:23] <zmoylan-pi> how much would vat be on that?
[12:23] <diddledan> wow
[12:23] <diddledan> 40£ vat
[12:23] <diddledan> no 56
[12:23] <zmoylan-pi> still a bargin
[12:23] <diddledan> 20%
[12:23] <daftykins> well i also had a 10% voucher too :>
[12:23] <zmoylan-pi> you had a coupon and they stopped you?! sods!
[12:25] <daftykins> i know! thankfully i moaned quick enough that i'll be able to get the 10% again on a next order
[12:27] <daftykins> hmm they think my account is 'on hold' but don't know why, how irritating
[12:28] <zmoylan-pi> computer says no...
[12:28] <zmoylan-pi> don't you just love algorithms...
[12:34] <knightw0rk> zmoylan-pi: computing commando ? :) hahahaha
[12:35]  * diddledan removes his frillies
[12:35] <daftykins> put it away, man! D:
[12:42] <knightw0rk> Listening to KEBU on youtube , great synth composer/artist
[12:43] <knightw0rk> very 80's feel , ideal for hacking away at a keyboard in the meantime
[17:39] <marshmn> happy Steam sale day/Steam's website not coping with load day
[18:30] <daftykins> marshmn: haha so it is!
[18:55] <marshmn> a chance to buy all those games on your wishlist at cut down prices... and then never get around to actually playing them
[18:55] <marshmn> then wait for the next Steam sale and buy some more
[18:55] <marshmn> repeat as required
[18:56] <daftykins> thankfully i have seen others turn Steam into a collectathon, so reigned myself in from repeating the same - but even those games i have bought i barely touch xD
[18:57] <daftykins> in fact i seem to buy PC titles but then ignore them and play the free bi-monthly titles on the xbox one instead
[18:57] <daftykins> have been playing a crossplay title between PC and xbox with a couple of mates, both local and England based though
[18:57] <daftykins> once a week tops that is