 @tylnesh, Usually extra language keyboard stuff
 @tylnesh, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2309416
 I think just changing the desktop file to tell it to show and run with xmir
 https://github.com/motog2014devteam/android_device_motorola_thea
 Ooh, I just realized that when xenial hits, I can install the nextcloud client in a libertine container.
 @nhaines, there is a nextcould app for xenial https://open-store.io/app/ubsync it's prety awesome :D
 i use it for music etc
 Does it work on vivid?
 @nhaines, no, it's xenial only
 Hmm, perhaps it should not be listed for vivid then.  :)
 but we are getting close to xenial
 The online account plugin for Nextcloud doesn't appear to work either.
 @nhaines, it's a big with the openstore :( it require a vivid click before xenial
 @nhaines, humm, on xenial?
 That's a shame.  :(
 I don't think I tried it on xenial.
 ok, since it seems to work for me on xenial
 I don't think I'll be able to upgrade to xenial for some time due to app unavailability.
 Just the usual problems. :)
 yeah, i see that. I hope to get some more apps now that rc is out. will also push hard to get all the regresion fixed, but we are pretty close there
 it's getting closer by each day :)
 There's always lots of good dev news.  :)
 I might recommend a puritine-like package in the openstore.  That might be a nice thing to offer.
 Yeah, that would be nice
 @nhaines, There is a bug with some specific password only. Otherwise nextcloud account works for both Xenial and Vivid.
 @Ern_st, Any clues to what the bug is?  Like if an application-only password would help?
 https://github.com/ubports/account-plugins/issues/8
 With application password no prob
 Old browser is great why new browser?
 iirc Oxide was based on an old/insecure version of chromium
 the new browser uses qtwebengine which is better maintained
 Wow nice! Dan Chapman is already working on Dekko for 16.04? :-)
 [Edit] iirc Oxide (the rendering engine for the old browser) was based on an old/insecure version of chromium
 Rendering is still ugly
 ugly how?
 Desktop view , no mobile friendly
 Yo
 So by any chance, when Ubuntu deprecated Ubuntu Touch, this project picked it up and kept going?
 Someone just told me about this yesterday and I was really intrigued by it
 Yeah, that's exactly what ubports did
 Sounds pretty neat honestly.
 The only thing I'm wondering about, is how do I build a version for my device?
 https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
 Out of curiosity, what device?
 Amazon Fire 7
 I have all the tools to do so
 Since I had a tablet running on a older version of Fire OS, I successfully rooted it and switched the ROM to stock 5.1
 Although the 8GB of internal memory might be an issue 🤔
 @Lyokanthrope, Still thank you
 Just bear in mind that Halium stuff is kind of inactive right now
 But getting a port going is good anyway because once xenial lands there's gonna be more work put into ubports on Halium
 @ubports_porting and @halium is a good place to check to when/if you get stuck.
 [Edit] @ubports_porting and @halium is a good place to check too when/if you get stuck.
 [Edit] @ubports_porting and @halium are good places to check too when/if you get stuck.
 Well, thank you :3
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/H0WYmP0T.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/CyA3k4Ti.webp
 Is there share it like apps here
 [Edit] Is there any share it like apps here
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFl5p1IcRmA
 the terminal app in 16.04 splits and tabs "review"
 it's pretty bad LOL, low sound volume, me not a native english speaker
 wololo.
 anyway
[06:24] <_kim_> Has anyone used KVM / Qemu on UT? How stupid of an idea is it?
 @popescu_sorin, Nice! Your videos are always of the upmost interest for me👍 Good job
 @popescu_sorin, [Edit] Nice! Your videos are always of the utmost interest for me👍 Good job
 @mattbel10, Same here.. Good job Popescu
 Thanks all
 Next time i.ll try to see if alcohol helps
 Wolo
 @mariogrip, I didn't realise that owncloud-sync had been forked.
[07:29] <ubptgbot> d3fc0n3 was added by: d3fc0n3
 sup Kim
 hello to everybody, I'm not a native english speaker but I love the ubuntu touch thanks to the community for your efforts!
 Another great @popescu_sorin Video Production \o/
 o/
 @d3fc0n3, there is a spanish ubports group i think
 @d3fc0n3 hi & welcome, what's your first language? There are UBports language focus groups too
 I'm from Spain ;)
 @d3fc0n3 ah jajajajaa see https://t.me/UBPorts_ES
 ok better in spanish ;) Thanks!
 👍
 1600 members! when did it happen?
 Kim is the member number 1600
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/PFQfTCNf.mp4
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gvAUGsWL.webp
 (Not this Kim) 😆
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/vIiIuDOV.webp
 lol
[08:33] <_kim_> You don't know, I could be that Kim. . .
[08:33] <_kim_> It seems to work after a fashion but configuring it is well fiddly compared to a normal machine.
 Check this out:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Ksk9-VVjo&t=91
 That orange device looks like a magnet to me? Or is it just a suction cup?
 suction cup
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGXbU6VM1DI
 rubber somting on the bottom, push the leaver to suck the air between
 [Edit] rubber something on the bottom, push the leaver to suck the air in between
 OIC
[08:41] <_kim_> Standard tool for phone screens, beats using a chisel. . . . not that I've ever done that. You sometimes get little ones free with the replacement screen but they aren't as good.
 So this kit would cater for most of those tools, probably all?
 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Opening-Repair-Smart-Phone-Disassembly/dp/B01K1X8DYU
 [Edit] rubber something on the bottom, pull the leaver to suck the air in between
[08:59] <_kim_> TBH you probably won't need most of those tools but they are nice to have if you want a set.
[08:59] <_kim_> The sucker is more something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009DFUWS8/ but you have to check the diameter fits the screens you're working with.
 Ok, I'm buying a tool set and a 2 x suction cup. Should hopefully futureproof and protect all my devices. Until they arrive, I won't turn my Pro 5 on again.
 Is it worth getting an ultrasonic cleaner? Is this safe to use on internal phone components?
 @TartanSpartan I think it's better if you continue on the OT group at this point :)
 General question (disclaimer: I'm a totally noob so please be gentle 😜): if I wanted to change an Ubuntu Touch component, e.g. the keyboard, and see only on my device if it works or not, how can I do this? Should I go to GH, download locally the keyboard-component I don't know how, change the code locally on my Ubuntu 16.04 lapto
[09:36] <ubptgbot> p, I don't know how, run the keyboard on my PC only to see if it works or not, I don't even know if this is remotely possible? I know, too many unknown there but I told you I'm a noob!
 [Edit] General question (disclaimer: I'm a totally noob so please be gentle 😜): if I wanted to change an Ubuntu Touch component, e.g. the keyboard, and see only on my device if it works or not, how can I do this? Should I go to GH, download locally the keyboard-component I don't know how, change the code locally on my Ubuntu 16.0
[09:37] <ubptgbot> 4 laptop, I don't know how, run the keyboard on my PC only to see if it works or not, I don't even know if this is remotely possible? I know, too many unknowns there but I told you I'm a noob!
 @mattbel10, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/system-software.html … Have a look here
 And let me know if you manage to get it working, because ATM I'm not😂😢
 Yes, I already searched there for some hints on how to use GitHub but I didn't find
 @mymike00, do you mean the link? It's working for me
 @mattbel10, No, what is written in the doc
 @mattbel10, To download something from gh you can download a zip from the website or, from the terminal, git pull and the irk of the repository on gh. Of course you have to install git
 @mymike00, aaaaaah now I see it. Thank you Michele.
 @mymike00, ok ok, so for you it didn't worked?
 @mattbel10, no, that works
 the link I gave you explain how to deploy software for ut (for example the keyboard)
 I suggest you to use `crossbuilder`, which is explained in one of the sectionin the doc
 Where can I find the Bluetooth received file
 @mymike00, Thanks. Later I will probably bother you on the Italian supergroup if you don't mind
 @mattbel10, sure
 @John, are you using the app "bluetooth file transfer" ?
 Yeah
 you can find it in the .config or .local folder of the app … utbt.something.....
 Thx its in .cache/ubtd.mzanetti
 Hmmm just witched on my 10FHD expecting there to be an update.. but none are showing? Did I miss something ?
 @AlexiPistonrod what do you mean? what are you trying to do?
 @neothethird, I am testing 16.04 rc on my Nexus 5 and the feeling is positive. For now the problems I've encountered are: … - At startup sometimes the device does not find WiFi networks. I need to insist with the connection buttons and airplane mode to connect to WiFi. … - Sometimes when I start a call, after a few sec
[10:18] <ubptgbot> onds the dialer thinks that the call is terminated. The only way to end the call and make another call or turn off the device. … - Sometimes the volume seems crazy, in all the apps. Sometimes calls and ringtones are low and volume adjustment while using YouTube from the Brower does not always work. The problem also occurs with the headset. … These
[10:18] <ubptgbot> problems were not there with 15.04 OTA-3 stable.
 @nhaines, It is not. We had lots of problems trying to put such a thing in the store. It doesn't really solve the core issues either.
 @_kim_, Probably not a great idea to try using virtualization on a phone. There's no spice client or management app yet either, afaik
 @GiovanniStaiano, There is also browser rendering failed problem
 @GiovanniStaiano, you seems to have more issues than the normal ones. I think the best option for you is to make a clean installation or just go back to vivid
 @GiovanniStaiano, [Edit] you seem to have more issues than the normal ones. I think the best option for you is to make a clean installation or just go back to vivid
 @John, That also happens 😅
 @malditobastardo, This is the result of clean installation. However, it's the secondary phone, so I can use it to find bugs.
 @malditobastardo, I think I've seen others mention them too
 @GiovanniStaiano, Ok great for the last part then. I don't understand why some people are having X issues and others like me don't. Or at least not for now.... I am on devel maybe that has something to do?
 I also heard that rc channel for some reason is not quite stable in comparison to devel but who knows....
 Maybe I am just confusing things
 @malditobastardo, RC is as stable as devel at the time the image is copied to RC. but it's not updated as often as devel, so if bugs are fixed in devel it might seem more reliable at a given point in time
 rc is more stable because it changes less
 yes I understand the theory
 I am just repeating what I heard
 😿
 Well RC doesn't seem to work on MX4 (though I am on devel so have not tested this) - which makes devel more stable :))
 lol
 😹😹😹
 Výborně
 @dohbee, Well, one core issue I imagine is that everyone's libertine containers will suddenly break after the upgrade to xenial.
 @nhaines, nope
 I thought libc changed.
 puritine is only useful as a marketing/demo tool
 @nhaines, not inside the container it didn't
 and it's libstdc++ that's the ABI problem
 libc itself is fine
 Well that's some good news, then!
 at least, my container with xterm still works
 it's the new xenial container that's not working
 @malditobastardo, Who says this
 I am not going to point anyone, as I said, for me makes no sense neither but I don't know what to believe anymore, there seems to be a lot of variables here, people downgrading from devel to rc, others updating without wipe, with wipe, so who knows, Its a rumour? maybe it was, but If this will be an issue I can edit my messa
[11:27] <ubptgbot> ge so no one will get confused. I will never say anything without testing myself first.
 @malditobastardo, the most stable software, is software that's not running :)
 @malditobastardo, rc is just copied over from devel, either by manual or automatic job. So an RC is basically a devel from the same day
 @GiovanniStaiano, Even scrolling is very slow compared to 15.04
 And I have a lot of problems with camera on 16.04 rc. I need to kill app to have the camera working again.
 A random question- … did anyone try porting Ubuntu touch to a nokia (not windows phone but the Nokia that came out with android) ? Was that successful ?
 @GiovanniStaiano, please use the bugtracker
 @neothethird, Is there any date for GA for xenial kernel on ub touch?
 what?
 @neothethird, I mean now that the release candidate is available for public or beta test- is there a date for general availability GA release for public to consume ?
 @theReadOnly, public can consume it now and has been able to always. "stable" release will be when all the remaining (known) regressions are solved
 Error while updating gallery app
 In in 15.04
 @dohbee, Yup.. thanks 🙏🏽 I know we can consume and test.. I just wanted to check if there is a tentative date for stable release
 @theReadOnly, not set in stone yet
 depends on how testing goes
 but within the next month, hopefully
 Hash validation error
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 I'm surprised with this...after 2 years LOL … https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1545118
 oh hi ubot
 that bot parsed the link?? cool!
 yep
 bug 1
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Lz3ohEzy.webp
 @ubot5, Wow.
 I
 [Edit] I'm dying
 I'm dying
 I'm dying
 ubot y u still here!
 go away
 :(
 :(
 :D
 :D
 Okay Wiz there's no need to repeat everyone
 Okay Wiz there's no need to repeat everyone
 Muted for a week
 @UniversalSuperBox, 👍🏻
 Continued trolling in PM. Removed from group.
 woaaa.. so cool you can open multiple apps at once
 in the apps scope tap at the same time on multiple apps
 i managed to open 5 at once :D
 Well that's interesting
 use your belly to open all of them :D
 j/k doesn't work 😢
 tried multiple times
 oh well
 @popescu_sorin you need this
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/5G2JRH9Z.mp4
 hahahah
 Fwd from UBports News Channel: Special thanks to Community Member Michele (@mymike00) for the new UBports News Channel image!
 🙌
 And don't forget that they can get all of that news streamed directly to their face via @ubports_news
 Thanks @mymike00 for the new UBports News Channel image !!! 👍👍👍
 @Bolly, ☺️
 @mattbel10, Depending on what you are trying to achieve you can also just change the code on the device. If it's qml or python, etc, I find it easiest to sshfs the phone and just edit directly. Of course you get to keep the pieces if you break it
 Hello community. Recommend you installing Ubuntu touch xenial rc version in my talbet m10 FHD and aquaris 4.5 of driven day, or better I wait it? I do not have any more phones or tablet. Thanks!!
 I'd wait
 Thanks sir ;)
 @dohniks, Thanks you for the reply...I need to study a bit, I already started by testing the potential of crossbuilder on the host....I didn't get any result up to now but I think I didn't completely understood yet how to manage it
 @dohniks, [Edit] Thank you for the reply...I need to study a bit, I already started by testing the potential of crossbuilder on the host....I didn't get any result up to now but I think I didn't completely understood yet how to manage it
 https://github.com/Halium/docs/pull/98 @UniversalSuperBox
 ✅
 Now I'm trying 5.1 branch, maybe it'll be more successful
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 I'm trying just now xenial RC on the bq e4.5 but it seems lota of apps are broken: they open but then it doesn't work very well... … How can I be sure that it's the xenial version and not the vivid one?
 @mymike00, what do you mean "don't work very well" exactly? are they web apps? or are they native apps?
 Telegram got stuck on the loading after I filled in my mobile phone, the open store is empty: I only see the words but no app icon, even if I can tap on the apps and then i see the screenshots and the layout of the whole page but without the info. "Latest version avaiable" and no version number after...
 i think it's a problem for apps that are pre-installed where you have updates installed from 15.04, where the older version gets used
 When I open the terminal app i'm' not in the home directory but under /opt/click.ubuntu.com/com.ubuntu.terminal/0.8.latest and the background is white I stead of the new color
 run `click list` to see what it thinks your currently installed versions are
 @dohbee, But I understood that in xenial the default opebstore version was the right one...
 Apps aren't automatically updated on an upgrade to 16.04
 @UniversalSuperBox, Ah ok
 Something is needed to actually upgrade the apps... especially the openstore.
 Where can I get the click?
 Because click isn't smart enough to, y'know, use the newer version in `/usr/share/preinstalled`
 @mymike00, it is, if it's a fresh install. but because you have an older version of the app in /opt, click is preferring it
 You can get the click from here: https://open-store.io/app/openstore.openstore-team
 Ok, gotcha thanks!
 And then I have 3 file manager apps... Before xenial I had 2 of them but now only one of the three works, so it seems it was able to get a xenial app,isn't it?
 @dohbee, Amd then?
 @mymike00, how do you have 3?
 Before I had the stable and the dev ones, upgraded to xenial and another popped up😂
 @UniversalSuperBox, There's no preinstalled there, is it ok?
 👍🏻
 Another thing, where does the browser downloads the files?
 @mymike00, webbrowser-app or next browser?
 i think webbrowser-app might have them downloaded into `~/Downloads`
 @dohbee, No, I still only have webbrowser-app
 or maybe it's wherever you select in content-hub to open the file, becasue it does content-hub for that iirc
 @dohbee, I don't have the usual folders like Document, Downloads and so on... And I didn't remove them
 @dohbee, It asks if you want to download the file or open with an app. If you chose to use an app it opens content hub (only openstore for clicks) otherwise it downloads the file without saying/asking anything...
 then should be in `~/.local/share/` if not `~/Downloads` i guess
 @dohbee, Under webbrowser-app? I can't find them...
 hmm, yes. maybe under ubuntu-download-manager then?
 I'll try to search them from the terminal, but I don't remwmber the command...
 If anyone's been in the recovery lately, you've probably seen another little piece of @mymike00's work
 @dohbee, Oh, Here they are. Thank Rodney!
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/MVEl0NIq.png
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/llV2SH7n.webp
 @UniversalSuperBox, Do we know already how to scale FP2 recovery properly?
 @Flohack, no
 meh
 Oh I just saw I also have 2 terminal apps😂😂
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