[02:51] <duflu> Woo, libinput 1.11 hit cosmic a couple of minutes ago
[05:55] <didrocks> good morning
[06:00] <duflu> Hi didrocks
[06:03] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:22] <doko> please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libayatana-appindicator/+bug/1770146, missing bug subscriber
[06:27] <didrocks> LocutusOfBorg: ^ (I don't know if you discussed that with us and missed the discussion. Also "just look at -proposed" shuold rather tell explicitely what depends on it in the bug description rationale
[07:26] <youpi> Trevinho, andyrock: Hello, I'm wondering how compiz is going, I have not seen activity for some months?
[07:28] <duflu> youpi, we are focusing on Gnome Shell and Mutter. Compiz would only get bug fixes at most
[07:28] <duflu> Even then, less than it used to
[07:28] <youpi> err, so it's an abandonware?
[07:29] <youpi> should we reorient our development on the compiz-reloaded project?
[07:29] <duflu> youpi, it's not part of the default session in Ubuntu 17.10 and later. But it is still part of Ubuntu that you can install, and technically supported
[07:30] <youpi> well, ok, but it still means that contributions won't get in
[07:30] <youpi> which means the death of the software
[07:31] <youpi> the only way I see for us is then to fork it, to be able to continue development
[07:31] <youpi> but that'd be a pity to not just continue the development on the existing branch
[07:31] <duflu> youpi, I think it was already forked a couple of years ago. You might want to check that out
[07:31] <youpi> that's probably compiz-reloaded you are referring to
[07:31] <youpi> I'm really unsure about it
[07:32] <youpi> they seem to be alergic to C++ code
[07:32] <youpi> and the project is not so much alive
[07:34] <youpi> I can understand that ubuntu does not wish to continue to develop it
[07:35] <youpi> but the least to be done then is to hand over the keys to people who cish to...
[07:35] <youpi> s/cish/wish
[07:44] <willcooke> morning
[07:46] <duflu> Good morning willcooke
[07:59] <duflu> willcooke, I've been hinting people should move any incomplete stuff out of the 18.04 board. Not sure if you or seb want to do that at some point, or ask the affected people?
[08:00] <duflu> Where "move" means move to 18.10 or just archive/delete
[08:02] <willcooke> thanks duflu, I'll take a look through later on a chase people
[08:03] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:05] <Laney> moin from de trein
[08:05] <duflu> Hi mobile Laney
[08:06] <Laney> hey duflu
[08:06] <Laney> you well?
[08:06] <duflu> Laney, yes. Getting on top of merge requests and weekend pending. You?
[08:06] <seb128> Laney, hey, on your way to the sun? ;)
[08:09] <Laney> duflu: I'm struggling to push bits, but otherwise happy!
[08:10] <Laney> hey seb128, yep, when do you leave?
[08:20] <seb128> Laney, late, my plane is at 9pm so I need to take the train a bit before 7pm here
[08:21] <Laney> ah nice, full day at home
[08:22] <seb128> yes, I'm not complaining, I can mostly have a normal day
[08:23] <seb128> even pick up the kid and spend some time with them after work before leaving
[08:23] <Laney> :3
[08:30] <seb128> seems like the weather is trying to make things work out for Trevinho, it's raining today in Florence but tomorrow is 27°C sunny
[08:30] <alexarnaud> Hello all
[08:31] <seb128> hey alexarnaud
[09:04] <duflu> Happy libinput-1.11-is-finally-in-Ubuntu
[09:04] <duflu> day
[09:15] <seb128> thanks for fixing the build & doing the update tjaalton!
[09:19] <tjaalton> thanks for the ping about it ftbfs..
[10:05] <andyrock> youpi: in the last few months Trevinho took care of reviewing and merging compiz MP
[10:05] <andyrock> youpi: but yes, in genereal we're not very much looking into them
[10:06] <andyrock> youpi: what do you need?
[10:08] <alexarnaud> andyrock: Review or right access for accessibility modules of Compiz
[10:09] <alexarnaud> andyrock: I'm using them everyday to be able to use my computer, from a user perspective, the dev mades by youpi are really good. It should be also the same for the code he has take care of all your comments.
[10:10] <alexarnaud> (I'm working with youpi at Hypra, I'm visual-impaired and project-manager for this part)
[10:11] <andyrock> let's wait for Trevinho to be around and discuss how to improve the current situation
[10:15] <alexarnaud> OK, we're waiting the Trevinho feedback so :).
[10:16]  * didrocks waits on Trevhino to signal "ready for review" :p
[10:16] <alexarnaud> andyrock: the most important PR is this one : https://code.launchpad.net/~samuel-thibault/compiz/ezoom_focus_tracking/+merge/345941
[10:17] <alexarnaud> In term of code and feature improvement for the UX
[10:17] <alexarnaud> It's fundamental to have focus tracking for screen magnifier.
[10:27] <andyrock> alexarnaud: first thing you usually open a bug and attach it to the MP
[10:28] <andyrock> alexarnaud: otherwise it's hard to get what's the current problem
[10:28] <alexarnaud> andyrock: There is already a bug for this feature open for a while.
[10:28] <andyrock> i don't see it attached to https://code.launchpad.net/~samuel-thibault/compiz/ezoom_focus_tracking/+merge/345941
[10:30] <alexarnaud> https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/727290
[10:31] <alexarnaud> It should be indeed, youpi do you think you could attach it ?
[10:32] <andyrock> alexarnaud: sure thing
[10:34] <alexarnaud> andyrock: It should be linked right now
[10:34] <andyrock> alexarnaud: so next week  I'm going to sprint with Trevinho and others
[10:34] <Trevinho> andyrock: I was there sorry, missed the pings
[10:35] <andyrock> alexarnaud: and we can take a look into it
[10:35] <alexarnaud> :)
[10:35] <Trevinho> seb128: yeah, week a bit unstable compared to the ones we just had (I didn't see  a single drop, and always sunny, but... you know).
[10:36] <alexarnaud> Let us know and don't hesitate to ping youpi if needed, he is the only one that could answer technical question, I could answer QA question.
[10:37] <didrocks> Trevinho: hey! I'm pretty sure yesterday I suggested s/debian subtree/branch and not "debian branch"
[10:37] <didrocks> it may it sounded like if we imported a bzr imported debian branch of a package
[10:37] <didrocks> and you put again new branch names with ` ` instead ''' :/
[10:38] <didrocks> saving it before as `ubuntu/bzr-last-release`
[10:38] <didrocks> you should do a global search :p
[10:38] <didrocks> ah, no, discare, that one is a tag
[10:39]  * didrocks hates the mix of / used in branch name introduced by DEP14, so confusing
[10:39] <didrocks> (and tags)
[10:39] <didrocks> but yeah, my comment on commit stands :p
[10:52] <andyrock> alexarnaud: kk
[11:02] <Trevinho> didrocks: I might have misunderstood this then
[11:02] <Trevinho> 17:52:23 <didrocks> what do you think about changing debian subtree by "branch"?
[11:25] <didrocks> Trevinho: yeah, changing "debian subtree" by "branch"
[11:25] <didrocks> as it's not a debian branch
[11:34] <Trevinho> didrocks: I took it the other way around then :)
[11:34] <Trevinho> as I set it as subtree initially, so I was confused
[11:35] <Trevinho> and as for ubuntu/bzr-last-release is indeed a tag, thus not the '''
[11:35] <didrocks> sorry for the misunderstanding, but changing it?
[11:35] <didrocks> yeah, I really dislike those namings for tags/local branch but nothing we can do about them :/
[11:35] <didrocks> Trevinho: then, just commit --amend this time if you reprepared the branch already from scratch and it's working
[11:36] <didrocks> and tell me once ready for review :p
[11:36] <Trevinho> didrocks: if there's something better comign to your miind, feel free to share
[11:36] <Trevinho> git commit -m "Importing lp:~ubuntu-desktop/$project/ubuntu debian subtree" will be right?
[11:36] <didrocks> no
[11:36] <didrocks> s/debian subtree/branch, simply ;)
[11:36] <didrocks> git commit -m "Importing lp:~ubuntu-desktop/$project/ubuntu branch"
[11:36] <Trevinho> only branch... ok. now is clear. xD
[11:36] <didrocks> ;)
[11:37] <Trevinho> as I changed subtree in branch then again in debian brnch, so wasn't with debian :)
[11:37] <Trevinho> inword diffs
[11:37] <didrocks> keep me posted once I can review the repo
[11:37] <Trevinho> as "our debian" maybe? xD
[11:38] <Trevinho> I mean it could not clear where we import
[11:38] <didrocks> well, it may sounded like if we cloned debian in launchpad
[11:38] <didrocks> which isn't the case
[11:38] <didrocks> well, we already link to what we import
[11:38] <didrocks> so it's clear
[11:38] <didrocks> and finish by /ubuntu
[11:38] <didrocks> so either nothing: git commit -m "Importing lp:~ubuntu-desktop/$project/ubuntu"
[11:38] <didrocks> or git commit -m "Importing lp:~ubuntu-desktop/$project/ubuntu branch"
[11:38] <Trevinho> I'd get rid of branch at all
[11:39] <didrocks> no strong opinion between the 2
[11:39] <Trevinho> simple, removed any specification
[11:39] <didrocks> ok, tell me once I can review git, the wiki looks ok
[11:39] <Trevinho> ok, soooo... wiki is updated
[11:40] <Trevinho> git, give me a moment that I want to address some nux stuff first
[11:40] <didrocks> ok
[11:40] <didrocks> you've already redone yesterday all the steps?
[11:40] <didrocks> to ensure that we are good
[11:41] <Trevinho> didrocks: yep, and applied somewhere else.
[11:41] <Trevinho> I'm also doing another thing I'll show you later
[11:43] <didrocks> great ;)
[11:44] <didrocks> once done, please have a look at nautilus with extra commits so that we can as well validate that use case
[16:09] <Laney> ah, tethering works here ;-)
[16:17] <LocutusOfBorg> folks, anybody wants to subscribe here?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libayatana-appindicator/+bug/1770146 :)
[16:18] <LocutusOfBorg> main is moving away from the old indicator, and also universe is switch to the better maintained ayatana fork (also debian)
[16:22]  * Trevinho dives into the sun sprint!
[16:22] <Trevinho> :)
[16:23] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: I think seb128 is somewhat opposed to this
[16:23] <Laney> you better bring this up on monday morning
[16:39]  * kenvandine heads out, have a great weekend everyone!
[17:01] <willcooke> night all.  Happy travels to those of you sprinting