[00:00] i disagree with your negative attitude [00:01] by that I mean *how* it's going to install "alongside" windows. a partition overview would be nice. you can hardly ever be too verbose and descriptive when over-writing data and resizing partitions [00:02] hello? [00:02] which file system i should use on ubuntu? ext4? [00:02] damn you lose space going from ntfs to ext4 [00:02] yes Nordo [00:02] ext4 is standard, so yes. [00:02] Nordo, if you're new, yes, it's fine [00:03] may i ask how to bind a folder? [00:05] im trying to follow the last part of this https://askubuntu.com/questions/251624/set-default-folders-to-external-hdd-permanently?noredirect=1&lq=1 [00:07] so you follow an answer without green ballot [00:07] is 60GiBs for ubuntu enough? [00:09] Nordo, for most, maybe. depends on what all you want to install and work with [00:11] for some reason, sda4 (which is ubuntu) doesnt appear when i select "something else" although i applied the operations [00:12] qwert, proper way is the userdir way. i did this before just symlinking, had no issue [00:13] linux_noob4: is that so... [00:13] qwert, yes, unless i was just imagining that it worked [00:14] linux_noob4: are u referring to the topmost answer on the link? [00:15] qwert, yes. in nautilus you can just right-click and make link, then cut that folder, paste to your new directory [00:15] for some reason, sda4 (which is ubuntu) doesnt appear when i select "something else" although i applied the operations [00:15] linux_noob4: tnx,i hope it remains after a reboot. [00:16] Nordo, for some reason you said this twice. maybe it wasn't applied [00:16] well if u noticed it, why didnt u reply :P [00:16] qwert, should. linux doesn't have a habit of deleting symlinks unless you ask it [00:17] Nordo, i don't use ubuntu, maybe once or twice, not an expert there [00:17] i'm here because it's a more active linux channel [00:17] https://imgur.com/a/JMQF7oj [00:18] ah [00:18] what do u use? [00:18] Nordo, make sure you set ubuntu as active and boot. i use antergos [00:19] ubuntu is fine but i wanted to try kde, which is great [00:19] how do i do that linux_noob4? [00:21] Nordo, right-click on gparted and set it. if you do though, to get windows back you'll have to do a fixmbr. much easier if you have an extra ssd to install each to an ssd and use your bios to choose [00:21] Nordo, by "windows back" i mean to boot by itself [00:22] look i aint an expert [00:22] i just want to install ubuntu dual-booted with windows 7, i get confused alot [00:23] so you meant if i install ubuntu, there will be no boot loader to select if i want to boot windows 7 or ubunt/u [00:24] Nordo, not sure your setup so don't want to give specific advice. you could overwrite windows if not careful. but do it the easy way, as ubuntu wants, should be safe and you'll have grub bootloader [00:25] ubuntu's installer is safer than windows, it won't/shouldn't blast your other os [00:25] k [00:25] ok [00:25] now [00:25] please, could you stay and help me a little bit [00:25] i know that you aint using ubuntu alot [00:26] look [00:26] i'll be here a while [00:27] i want to install ubuntu, now, when i went to installation type, i couldnt see the partition i created for ubuntu, how can i fix this? [00:28] you went to "something else"? [00:28] yes [00:29] Nordo, if your windows install is on that same drive, it should see it. if not, create a new ext4 file system and make it / (root) [00:30] i did create a new ext4 file system [00:30] you might want a swap partition also or you can do it after install [00:30] but im not sure if i did that (root) thing [00:30] Nordo, did you verify it? with what if you did? [00:30] i did it with gparted [00:31] Nordo, when you create a new ext4 partition you should set it as /, the base install directory. linux can use different directories for things like swap, boot, home, etc this is why it doesn't autocreate it as root [00:32] nope i didnt do that, should i remove that partition then create a new one? [00:32] Nordo, so gparted sees your ext4 partition, the installer doesn't? you sure you applied the partition changes? [00:32] yes [00:32] i did apply the operations [00:32] Nordo, no, just make it root. as long as it's ext4 now, that's fine === guiverc_t is now known as guiverc_d [00:33] how can i make it root? [00:33] Nordo, usually some sort of context menu option. been a while, i forgot [00:34] manage flags? [00:34] i did right click and saw this [00:34] Nordo, if ubuntu gave you the option to install alongside windows, that should be fine. backup first if needed just in case. that's the easiest instead of doing manual install like this [00:35] okay, but, what does ubuntu do in this situation, does it create a partition itself and installs itself? [00:35] Nordo, yep, manage flags might need to be set but usually it's autoset if you set your ext4 as root on install, i believe [00:35] Nordo, i believe so [00:35] i hope i dont ruin anything [00:36] should i delete the partition i created? [00:37] Nordo, if you're asking these questions and your windows partition is important, you should not do it or backup your windows files then. chances are the defaults are fine but if manually installing as a noob, wise to back it up [00:37] Nordo, you can, doesn't matter [00:37] i dont have any external drive to extract files to [00:37] bitwise nothing will change if you delete and create it again [00:38] Nordo, there's free cloud services to back up to [00:39] Hi all, I'd like to know how much packages are available in Ubuntu repositories. [00:39] wow, so much confusing, i just wanted to try the thing, [00:39] Nordo, do you have a spare usb flash drive? unlike windows, you can install on flash [00:39] of course it'll be slower on flash [00:40] well, ill see about that [00:40] thank you for bothering with me [00:40] i really apperciate that [00:40] I know that the Debian distribution repository is considered to be one of the largest, or the largest of all. I want to know if the repository for ubuntu is larger, the same size in terms of the number of packages, that the Debian repository [00:40] Nordo, no prob. if you really want to install, i can guide you through but i don't know exactly where you started [00:42] windows makes it easy because it'll obliterate any os's on the drive, not being kind as to giving you options to protect other os's [00:42] Helo Would Anybody Like To Clarify The windigo SSH -G, Cause i Have a Brand New Server with a Fresh 18.04 Installed And Its Coming Back Syst Infeted [00:43] Alion, sure, i'll clarify that statement [00:46] Now i Would Like to Think That buntu Is Hosting Clean Installs But Why Does every download have the ssh -G With a Negative Reply i Just Spent Days Scrubing My Kali Box CLEANED it And Got Mines ssh -G CLEAN On My Local That Took A LOT! So Then i Got My 16.04 Clean And Then a Friend Brik`d The Installation So i Had To Reibstall [00:47] Please, I know that the Debian distribution repository is considered to be one of the largest in terms of available packages, or the largest of all. I want to know if the repository for ubuntu is larger, the same size in terms of the number of packages, that the Debian repository [00:47] So Figured Why Not Try 18.04 DID It Loged In Fron Mah Kali "Whioch Was Clean" And Now They Both Read INFECTED linux_noob4 What Was That [00:48] Alion, lolz, your 'kali box' got a virus? [00:48] but The flock /tmp test reads Clean On Both oerheks What [00:48] Alion, you're using official repos, right? [00:48] Alion, please find the propper support channel for kali pentesting, this is ubuntu support only [00:49] ofcourse you have virusses and trojan signatures.. [00:49] trollz be trollin' .... [00:49] Any one know a good FTP/SFTP client (GUI) for Ubuntu that supports SSH keys? I have been using filezilla for years but a recent bug that has yet be patched has caused firefox to crash with a simple click [00:49] oerheks, Please Read The Messages AGAIN i Said My buntu infected Mak Kali Man [00:50] linux_noob4, Yes official [00:50] rorqual, don't know, i'd wager ubuntu's repo is a bit larger. my girlfriend says it's too large [00:50] everybody Run This: ssh -G 2>&1 | grep -e illegal -e unknown > /dev/null && echo "System clean" || echo "System infected" [00:52] oerheks, hows it looking Fo yah [00:52] Alion, what packages specifically? did you do checksums to verify? is your network secure? [00:53] ok linux_noob4, thanks for answering. There was a guy trying to answer that and passed these informations: Ubuntu Zesty: 73,945 https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/allpackages?format=txt.gz [00:53] Alion, i will not run some random command.. do a proper check with chkrootkit [00:53] Debian Jesse: 57,281 https://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz [00:53] Yes everythings Secure its just a Fresh remote install of ubuntu server 18 via 1and1com [00:53] but, these links don't mention exaclty how much packages both distros really have, comparing between them.... [00:54] so you trust 1and1com ? [00:54] oerheks, Yea Well Then Lookit up First Then Run it [00:54] no thanks, i keep it to the original iso's [00:55] that command says I won $1M dollars! [00:55] ssh -G 2>&1 | grep -e illegal -e unknown > /dev/null && echo "System clean" || echo "System infected" if You Cant Make sence of That Read up on it [00:55] blackflow, yeah, a kali freak trolling [00:55] you don't say :) [00:55] but still feeding it, aren't we. [00:58] oerheks, chrootkit Dont responde anything But My system was Clean Before i SSH'd To The Fresh 18.04 Install And Now Their Both infected according to ssh -G Which Did Report Clean Local JUST Bfor [00:58] Alion: do you know what ssh -G does? [00:59] yes its looking for an illegal feedback [00:59] ssh -G 2>&1 | grep -e illegal -e unknown > /dev/null && echo "System clean" || echo "System infected" [00:59] hggdh: ooh ooh ooh! I know! [01:00] Alion: no, it does not. So, please stop [01:00] hggdh, Well Why Dont You Please Clarify [01:01] Alion: this is not the channel for that. This is the Ubuntu support channel [01:03] Wow You People must Be incredibly STUPID SeCOND Message NOW EXPLICITLY Stating UBUNTU 18.04 Infected My Kali ANd So It Is UBUNTU Problen. [01:03] Alion: no, it is not. You need to read the manuals a bit more. Last warning. Please stop. [01:05] Alion, i ran that and it blew up my pc. thanks [01:05] linux_noob4: don't. [01:08] Stop What i Said Why Does ubuntu 18.04 Report Infection https://www.eset.com/int/search/?q=Windigo [01:15] jeez lol emptying my trash for like 30 minutes now, these plex media folders are insane with a ton of little files [01:22] https://pastebin.com/LWPsKx9P === no1 is now known as Guest84754 [01:33] Alion1: I will sugguest you to read the stackoverflow question. Really. All of it, *including the footnote*. Now, if you post it again here, or ask about it again, this won't be good. [01:34] https://0bin.net/paste/qetpf0IfLKepqW1Z#Z0QuHBp+EOxSnJYbfmbDGQuXAJo10FT5kX5D7wm0wGp [01:34] That Was Before [01:44] I have core.askpass set to "" in git, but every time I do `git commit -S`, there's a dialog box blocking the rest of the screen asking for my gpg password [01:44] how do I get it to ask this password in the terminal? [01:50] I'm getting this error when trying to compile a kernel: fatal error: linux/compiler-gcc7.h: No such file or directory [01:50] is this somthing I can fix by downloading some kind of dev package? [01:50] or do I need to downgrade GCC? [01:50] (this is on 18.04) [01:51] gcc is system default of 7.3.0 [02:01] :1 [02:09] i configured opendns on my mobile wifi network but its still not filtering content. anyone have any ideas? [02:13] gambl0re, I don't know anything about making opendns filter content, but have you verified your system is actually using opendns? [02:14] syb0rg, yes its using opendns [02:14] if i go to this site. https://welcome.opendns.com/ i get an orange checkmark [02:16] syb0rg, you there [02:17] I guess you might not have the rules configured correctly for content filtering. Have you double checked the network you have set up for filtering, made sure it is correct? [02:17] and your specific rules? [02:18] you said it is for your mobile network - does this come with a static IP? === test is now known as Guest38205 [02:44] anyone here have linux shell for rent? [02:45] what do you need to rent a shell for, creater? [02:45] Hey guys, how are you doing? Quick inquiry: Upgrading from Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04, should there be some sort of interruption, what is the best method to proceed? [02:46] Guest38205, probably depends on the issue you run into. just make sure your data is backed up if you are afraid of something happening [02:46] Yeah, for instance lost of power [02:47] well it could cause problems, which would need to be repaired on a case by case basis [02:47] if you want, you can make a full system backup [02:47] then restore that if anything happens [02:48] hah, sysbackup is only enoguh if u dont go back in time with it [02:48] creater, I dunno what you are trying to accomplish, but you can get a vps very cheap [02:48] not interested in backing up anything but rather on simple methods to bring the upgrade to an healthy state [02:48] grat that is true [02:48] I have a lower powered one for - wait for it - 1 euro per month [02:49] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onquKz5SYRs [02:49] Guest38205, like I said, recovering from an issue would depend on the specifics. I can't tell you how to fix a hypothetical problem with no details. [02:49] wjat [02:49] listen to the bible dont read it [02:49] every sign is from above to the kind [02:49] what if I prefer neither === hc_ is now known as Guest87405 [02:50] LOL, I gave you the info already.... lost of power which is a strong indication of broken packages [02:51] so has this problem actually occurred, Guest38205? [02:51] yes [02:52] jesus. why didn't you lead with that? It sounded like you were concerned with preparing for an upgrade [02:52] what error messages are you getting? [02:52] van === Menzie is now known as Menzador [02:53] Dont really know.....cant remember.....just the upgrade wont proceed [02:55] hard to help much without specifics. This thread might help you: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2345808 [02:55] if those apt commands don't work, the simplest fix may well be a fresh install [02:56] just back up your data =P [02:57] I am not a big fan of reading, if you could help me... that would be much appreciated. Well, dont want to do a fresh install [02:57] I am not a big fan of helping lazy people who can't be bothered to try and help themselves. [02:57] later, I'm going afk [02:58] how do i install Ubuntu inside Virtualbox on Windows 10? [02:58] Come on man, stop fulling around.... you have the experience and you know your stuff... just share [03:07] syb0rg, those who can't help themselves are most in need of help. - Abraham Lincoln [03:08] Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2, download a linux iso. create a new machine (it'll guide you) then mount the iso using VB window [03:09] linux_noob4: the problem is there's no 32 bit Ubuntu iso [03:10] Virtualbox doesn't let me install ubuntu 64 bit over Windows 10 [03:10] over Windows 10 64 bit [03:10] Virtualbox asks me for two processors for ubuntu [03:11] i don't know why, i could boot 32/64 in VB using 32 and 64bit hosts. supposedly ubuntu has a mini iso that's 32bit [03:12] also in VB, you don't install "over" another OS, you install alongside it [03:12] unless i'm misunderstanding your situation === r is now known as Guest94656 === Vinylourson is now known as Guest53326 === sharkper1 is now known as sharkperator === kemisten2 is now known as kemisten === maum_ is now known as maum === r0Oter is now known as r00ter === XLV_ is now known as XLV [05:46] hey [05:46] So I can't find anything that really answers what I'm after [05:47] Where do snaps store data? [05:47] Like, I'm installing nextcloud as a snap and I want to be able to back up all my data [05:48] I am %4000 lost [05:49] snaphelp, is it in your home directory perhaps? I do not use snaps, so this is only a guess. [05:50] snaphelp, i'm no expert either; but I think its up to the programmer (if legacy snap; confined snaps have severe limits on what they can do; so it varies on type of snap) [05:51] snaphelp, looks like config files are generally stored in ~/snap/ [05:51] data is probably stored wherever the app thinks it should be, like guiverc_d said. Which again is likely in your home directory [05:52] Wrong again [05:53] and maybe look in /var/snap/ [05:53] here is where I am getting info jklbasdflkjghlkJHDSGKLJhlkjsdfgh987(*S*&^*(&^(*&^ [05:53] oops [05:53] https://askubuntu.com/questions/762354/where-can-ubuntu-snaps-write-data [05:53] syb0rg: if you don't know the answer you don't have to answer me [05:53] I can wait for someone who knows [05:53] just trying to point you in the right direction snaphelp, you can potentially verify this yourself by looking in the locations I stated [05:54] I'm digging in /var/ [05:54] Looks like it's in there? [05:54] [01:54] You miserable bastard. He tried to help. Asshole [05:54] Just going to put that out there. [05:54] lol [05:54] Bumgx: If you want to call me a miserable bastard and an asshole grow a fucking pair and say it in the channel, not a PM [05:54] Also welcome to the internet. [05:55] he just be trollin' [05:55] snaphelp, there are snap irc channels; I'm not sure if #snappy is what i'm thinking of, but maybe? [05:57] !ops Bumgx troll / harrasment in PM's [05:57] snaphelp: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [05:57] Also, "[01:56] No wonder nobody wants to help. Because of bitch scum like you" [05:57] yeah I can verify what snaphelp said, he is trolling me a bit too [05:57] Ah, /ignore works in the web client [05:57] syb0rg: do /ignore Bumgx [05:58] eh I no, but he doesn't really bug me [05:58] *know [05:58] ignore works well [05:58] indubitably [06:01] I gotta put up with false accusations when it's me being threatened by snaphelp [06:01] [01:59] I gotta take a shit. You fucking crybaby [06:01] :thinking_face: [06:02] big time Bumgx, we all believe you. You poor, tortured soul [06:02] snaphelp [06:02] Consider lynching yourself. https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6QwE2JLPfO [06:02] I, for one, am not clicking that link [06:03] !language [06:03] Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [06:03] stop it please [06:04] ^ [06:05] You're a low level troll and only lucky to survive because the OP's are sleeping [06:05] snaphelp: dont feed please [06:06] I'm in #ubuntu-ops [06:06] Hopefully someone is alive [06:06] eh it doesn't matter much snaphelp, it isn't like he is a very effective troll to begin with and it is pretty dead [06:07] so was the data you were looking for in /var? [06:07] in /var/snap [06:07] cool [06:07] ayy I can set a external datadirectory [06:08] hey, I just installed latest Ubuntu 18.04, looking for some ways to customize look & feel. How od I go about it? I want to switch it to light/white colors [06:08] !themes | jada [06:08] jada: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [06:09] jada: see also deviantart.com alot of nice ideas there [06:09] do I need some app first? like unity-tweak-tool or something similar? [06:09] jada: gnome-tweak-tool can also make it easy switching themes for you [06:09] I've been playing with themes on 15 and 16.04 [06:09] lotuspsychje: don't suggest deviantart [06:09] its.... yea. [06:10] deviant, one might say? Hmm? [06:10] snaphelp: dont tell me what to do [06:10] lotuspsychje: Same back at you. [06:11] syb0rg: it's changed its name by the way, now goes by Fredsaxx [06:16] syb0rg: Snaps seem to handle lots of IO well [06:17] really, why would they have an advantage with high IO? Or are you just glad they aren't limited in that sense? [06:19] glad they're not limited [06:19] I'm going to setup a snap inside of a LXC container [06:19] This way I have the best of both worlds [06:19] that or just use snaps raw [06:19] !discuss [06:19] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [06:20] lotuspsychje: The channel is %100 dead right now. [06:20] Why not go feed the troll? [06:20] snaphelp: no reason to use it as chitchat [06:21] at least it is ubuntu related chit chat [06:21] ^ [06:21] syb0rg: I was about to ask you, how do you handle backing up and securing your machine? [06:21] syb0rg, snaphelp no check the !guidelines this chanel is for ubuntu support only [06:22] lotuspsychje: Please do not nick alert me any further. [06:22] for security, I just use a firewall and try to do web stuff in vms, backups I do manually and with syncing between machines, but my current setup for backups is realy a work in progress [06:22] It's annoying as i have the window open and focused at all times. [06:22] anyway since we are bugging lotuspsychje I will switch to ubuntu-offtopic [06:23] I'll join you so he stops incessently nick alerting me and trying to boss me around. [06:23] Also, lotuspsychje don't tell me what to do while you're not nick alerting me. Thanks. [06:23] snaphelp: then stop using this channel for chitchat [06:23] eh he's being a bit overzealous at worst, he just wants to keep the channel on topic. I can respect that :) [06:23] lotuspsychje: Again. Stop nick alerting me before I simply /ignore you. [06:24] syb0rg: I can't join, not +r and not planning on going +r [06:25] syb0rg: Do we have a public grsecurity hardened kernel for ubuntu or no? [06:26] I'm gonna stay on topic snaphelp, I chat here semi often so I'd rather not have ill will from regulars here. They do tend to focus on being on-topic here [06:27] syb0rg: hardened kernels for ubuntu are ot [06:28] sorta but you aren't really asking for support now, you're just chatting. Get that +r if you want to go on the social channels =P [06:29] syb0rg: ok, how would I go about compiling a hardened kernel from source? [06:30] no idea, never done that. Sounds like a fun project though [06:31] /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER snaphelp zsbergrhnbxs [06:31] hmmmm. Might wanna change that pass asap, lol. [06:34] snaphelp: in what way is the kernel not secure enough for you now ? [06:35] ikonia: more of precautious / learning [06:35] grsecurity is historically good at protecting from 0days [06:37] yeah, and no-one uses it [06:37] for a pretty good reason [06:39] [citation required] [06:39] ikonia: I know the controversial developers [06:40] controversial developers ? [06:41] they behave like spoiled brats [06:41] one dropped a (selinux?) 0day [06:41] on twitter... [06:42] snaphelp: have you ever built any ubuntu package before ? [06:43] Not a package but I did once successfully re-compile my kernel [06:43] I'm up to learning [06:43] snaphelp: I would strongly suggestion take approx 10 steps backwards then one step forward [06:43] your first build shouldn't be "how do I build a more secure kernel, I have no idea why I'd want to do this, but I do" [06:44] Hello, a new day has just started and a new issue has just arrived [06:45] ikonia: I like going in headfirst into a pool with no water [06:45] more fun that way [06:45] it's time wasting for other people and doesn't really give you credibility as someone who wants to learn [06:45] I have Xubuntu 16.04 and I cannot upgrade or dist-upgrade anymore because there's a damaged package: libtag1-vanilla [06:46] what do you mean by damaged package [06:46] \quit [06:46] I don't know, it's the system message, but the message is my language so I don't know if you could understand it [06:47] I am trying to find the correct message sent by an english ubuntu [06:47] ikonia: How is it time wasting for others? [06:47] ikonia: if you don't want to help simply don't help. [06:47] Don't discourage learning [06:48] snaphelp: a doctor who on his first day of work says "I want to do brain surgery, thats how I learn" doesn't get help/respect [06:48] snaphelp: doctors build up experience and become specialists, the same is true of learning linux, you build up experience and knowledge [06:49] provolik: debugging it in a different lanaguage will be hard, have you tried removing the package ? [06:49] ikonia: The difference here? The only person's time that would get wasted would be mine [06:49] ikonia, yes [06:50] snaphelp: no it's not, people trying to help you would be wasted [06:50] provolik: what happens when you try to remove ? [06:50] ikonia, the message is: libtag1v5-vanilla : Breaks: libtag1-vanilla but 1.10-0ubuntu1~xenial0 is going to be installed. (translated by me) [06:50] after that: E: packages damaged [06:50] ikonia: So people helping me learn something new is wasting their time? [06:50] Hmmmm [06:50] !info libtag1v5-vanilla [06:50] Then don't help me... [06:50] libtag1v5-vanilla (source: taglib): audio meta-data library - vanilla flavour. In component main, is optional. Version 1.11.1+dfsg.1-0.2build2 (bionic), package size 283 kB, installed size 1073 kB [06:51] snaphelp: people helping you do something you're out of your league on, is, people helping you learn by building up to it is real value [06:51] provolik: that doesn't strike me as something that would "break" ubuntu, one moment please [06:52] !info libtag1-vanilla [06:52] Package libtag1-vanilla does not exist in bionic [06:52] ikonia, ubuntu is working, simply I cannot upgrade (or dist-upgrade) it [06:52] provolik: can you try to remove remove libtag1-vanilla [06:52] provolik: I mean removing that pacakge wouln't break ubuntu [06:53] provolik: and if the package manager is not working/blocked, thats not a great working state [06:53] ikonia, I tried with: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq libtag1v5-vanilla [06:53] ikonia: You're assuming it's out of my leauge without knowing any of my history. [06:53] ikonia: you're wasting more of your time saying it's a waste of your time than actually attempting to help [06:53] snaphelp: you've never build a package before, you told me that yourself, and in #uuntu-offtopic you're saying you want to do basic linux courses [06:53] snaphelp: so I have reasonable idea of your history [06:53] ikonia: basic IT courses. [06:54] ikonia: I've stated I've managed to build the kernel in the past [06:54] provolik: that's interesting approach, what happened ? [06:54] ikonia: so no, you really don't have any idea of my history. [06:54] snaphelp: well done typing makemenu config, make deps and make build isn't really hard [06:54] ikonia, after that command the system sais that the package cannot be removed beacuse of the dependecies [06:55] snaphelp: ok, I dont [06:55] ikonia: Again, you've wasted more time telling me its a waste of your time than actually helping. [06:55] While also making bold statements [06:55] provolik: does it lift the dependencies ? [06:55] snaphelp: ok, lets stop talking about it [06:56] I'll keep discussing building the kernel from source [06:56] just not with you [06:56] ikonia, do you know how can I know? [06:56] snaphelp: not in here you won't [06:56] snaphelp: that's not this channels support window [06:56] provolik: sure, I was expecting it to give you a list with the removal [06:56] provolik: ahh hang on, you removed the wrong package [06:57] ikonia: If I need help finding certain packages I can more than ask in here [06:57] provolik: try removing libtag1-vanilla [06:57] snaphelp: you can certainly ask for package help [06:57] snaphelp: you can also use packages.ubuntu.com [06:57] ikonia, ok [06:57] ikonia: Never heard of that one, always used apt-cache [06:58] snaphelp: use whatever you want [06:58] ikonia, it says that it's not installed [06:59] provolik: so that's interesting, so removing the first package says it breaks that one, but it also says that package is not installed [06:59] so I think that's the problem [06:59] ikonia, libtag1v5 and libtag1v5-vanilla are installed [06:59] god damn.. sometimes apt can be do damn dumb [06:59] Anyways I'm gonna be back. It's 3am here. [06:59] night yall [06:59] Removing mysql-server (5.7.22-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ... [06:59] Setting up mysql-server-5.7 (5.7.22-0ubuntu0.16.04.1) ... [07:00] why is it setting up mysql-server when it's supposed to be removing it? [07:00] provolik: try apt-cache rdepends apt-cache rdepends [07:00] oops [07:00] mysql_upgrade: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES) while connecting to the MySQL server [07:00] zamba: If you want a pleasant drop in alternative to mysql there's always mariadb [07:00] provolik: try apt-cache rdepends libtag1v5 [07:00] ikonia, trying [07:00] zamba: Just putting that out there. Wont solve your problem, just nice to know [07:00] snaphelp: problem was that netmrg seemingly required mysql [07:01] ikonia, https://pastebin.com/V6Qxmvis [07:02] provolik: ok, a lot more than expected [07:02] ikonia, I thinks so :-/ [07:02]