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[01:13] <tsimonq2> Phab update went smoothly it seemed.
[01:14] <tsimonq2> s/seemed/seems/
[01:14] <tsimonq2> Going down temporarily for a system restart.
[01:16] <tsimonq2> Back up.
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 https://youtu.be/cSTNWrJbRGo
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 Thanks to @konrad11901!
 I have a few very very trivial cleanup bits I want to do, but otherwise, looking good :)
 Huh, it's not very good imo, but you're welcome anyway ;)
 You hit the nail on the head :)
 :)
 thanks for improving my very limited dictionary of English idioms :D
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 hehe :D
 What's the difference in resource usage between LXDE and LXQt?
 @AceHW, Minimal at best.
 I'd like numbers, if possible
 Like maybe ram usage at idle in mb
 Typically
 @AceHW, Maybe 25-50 MB idle RAM usage increase at best.
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 @tsimonq2, Ok
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 @tsimonq2, Do you mean at most or at least or typically (unless something stupid happens)
 @AceHW, We don't have these granular numbers.
 Ok
 If someone wanted to collect them, they're more than welcome to, but I'd argue that a very minimal increase in specs doesn't matter.
[20:14] <mpmc> use LXQT useable or is it still a bit ruff? :p
 Hmm. I was kinda thinking of going back to an LXDE distro because the XFCE distro I'm currently using usually uses just enough more ram than I'd like to annoy me, but not enough more to really justify changing distros based solely on that. 
[20:16] <mpmc> AceHW: I actually installed Kubuntu & was quite shocked at how low the ram usage is :o
 @AceHW, If I was gonna go to LXDE, I'd probably go back to Knoppix, or maybe I'd try Porteus.
 @mpmc, Hmm. How low?
[20:17] <mpmc> AceHW: well on boot with a min install 380.
[20:18] <mpmc> I hope Lubuntu is even lower.
 @mpmc, 380mb? 
[20:20] <mpmc> AceHW: yes. :)
 I'd really like something that idles below 300mb, below 250mb is near ideal, imo
 Why do you have these granular requirements, ooc?
 ooc?
 Out Of Curiosity.
 I like to have a usable gui with as low resource usage as reasonably possible
 I used to love when Knoppix with its default LXDE would idle below 230mb
[20:23] <mpmc> Bodhi linux is pretty low too.
 I wonder where BunsenLabs would idle around
 Hola
 Tengo una dificultad
 He instalado escritorio E17
 Y no se ve nada en la pantalla ahora.
 Try @lubuntues por favor
 @tsimonq2, Thank's
[20:32] <mpmc> tsimonq2: is L 18.10 install-able yet? Last time I tried it was just a live image.
[20:34] <tsimonq2> mpmc: It's a WIP, but when you open it, just search for "Install System" in the start menu.
[20:34] <tsimonq2> We need a desktop icon.
[20:36] <mpmc> tsimonq2: Cool. Have all the gtk apps been replaced yet?
[20:36] <tsimonq2> mpmc: They should be.
[20:36] <tsimonq2> mpmc: One exception is LibreOffice that I know of. We need the upstream release with the KDE 5 port.
[20:37] <mpmc> tsimonq2: Does the min install work? And does LO come included in a min install?
[20:38] <tsimonq2> mpmc: That isn't implemented with Calamares yet, but it's a work in progress.
[20:39] <tsimonq2> We have something more thorough in mind for that.
[20:40] <mpmc> tsimonq2: I would love to see Lubuntu rather than have a bog standard minimal install have the option to select from a list of optional packages.
[20:41] <tsimonq2> mpmc: Waaaay ahead of you. ;) https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32
[20:42] <mpmc> tsimonq2: login with github/twitter is still broken :o
[20:42] <tsimonq2> mpmc: Yeah, it's on The List.
[20:42] <tsimonq2> Sorry.
[20:42] <mpmc> np :p
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