| fairhb | is there a good resource I can reference for managing multiple versions of python? apparently ubuntu 18.04 requires a certain version and applications I would like to install require a different version and higher versions aren't backwards compatible. | 00:26 |
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| wb4bbc | Good Evening everybody | 03:33 |
| Agamemnon | Hey. Ubuntu Mate has an applet that has kept notifications? If I do not read a notification from the application, I would like it to be stored there. | 09:04 |
| alkisg | Haha, that was strange, I was just working on epoptes notifications and peristence :D | 09:18 |
| alejandro | Hola alguien que escriba en español? | 10:23 |
| diogenes_ | !es | alejandro | 10:24 |
| ubottu | alejandro: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 10:24 |
| alejandro | thank for the info ubuntu-es, i bad speak english | 10:27 |
| alejandro | bye | 10:27 |
| deskwizard | Howdy! o/ | 11:23 |
| deskwizard | to make a long story short, I'm trying to get pm-utils to run a script on wakeup on 16.04, but I must be missing something obvious again 'cause it's not happening :P that's what I'm testing with atm, for the sake of seeing something happen hehe https://pastebin.com/pUBdQEuf | 11:26 |
| deskwizard | basically I copied and trimmed down the 95led one in/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d. | 11:28 |
| alkisg | deskwizard: since the question isn't specific to the desktop environment you're using, you could also ask in #ubuntu where there are more people | 11:34 |
| deskwizard | alkisg: thanks for the tip :) | 11:34 |
| karjala_ | Since this morning, I got this bug: I need to press alt+Tab twice to get the window chooser | 12:04 |
| karjala_ | instead of just once | 12:04 |
| karjala_ | Is anyone else having this bug? | 12:04 |
| karjala_ | At first, when I boot, I don't have the bug, but it appears after a while, every time | 12:04 |
| alkisg | Try with another window manager, e.g. compiz, marco... | 12:10 |
| alkisg | (select from mate-tweak) | 12:10 |
| karjala_ | i don't want to choose another window manager, i want the bug fixed | 12:21 |
| karjala_ | also, the bug only occurs when I'm switched to the greek keyboard layout | 12:21 |
| karjala_ | in the American keyboard layout, alt-tab works fine | 12:21 |
| karjala_ | when in greek keyboard layout, alt-tab is alwaus needed twice | 12:22 |
| karjala_ | i think this is a bug | 12:22 |
| alkisg | karjala_, the first step to solve a bug, is to see why it happens | 12:23 |
| alkisg | That was my first troubleshooting step | 12:23 |
| alkisg | If the bug is in the window manager, you'll know where to report it | 12:23 |
| karjala_ | ok thanks | 12:24 |
| karjala_ | I'm in the middle of doing work, and cannot switch window manager. Luckilly, I have Ubuntu MATE on a VM as well, I'll test there. | 12:29 |
| alkisg | karjala_, btw, what's the output of `setxkbmap -query` when you have the greek layout? | 12:29 |
| karjala_ | alkisg, https://pastebin.com/3gucrZ0V | 12:31 |
| karjala_ | are you greek? | 12:31 |
| karjala_ | alkis is greek name | 12:31 |
| alkisg | yup | 12:31 |
| karjala_ | me 2 | 12:31 |
| alkisg | Yeah I got it :) | 12:32 |
| alkisg | Is ibus or fcitx running? | 12:32 |
| alkisg | ps aux | grep ibus | 12:32 |
| alkisg | ps aux | grep fcitx | 12:32 |
| karjala_ | 1st question: do you have the same bug on your system? | 12:32 |
| karjala_ | alkisg, I don't have either of the two | 12:33 |
| alkisg | No, I don't have the bug in 18.04 or 16.04 | 12:34 |
| alkisg | I'm using marco, and my layout is different than yours | 12:34 |
| alkisg | options: grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll | 12:34 |
| karjala_ | my vm doesn't have the bug, either | 12:34 |
| alkisg | That means you're not using the default greek xorg layout, maybe you're using the kbd lib | 12:34 |
| alkisg | Which window manager are you using? | 12:35 |
| alkisg | ps aux | grep marco, or compiz etc | 12:35 |
| karjala_ | I'm using the standard one that MATE came with | 12:35 |
| karjala_ | look what I did: | 12:35 |
| karjala_ | i have marco | 12:35 |
| karjala_ | did ps aux and saw it | 12:35 |
| Agamemnon | Hi, Ubuntu Mate has something like notification tray? If you do not read a notification, it should be available in the tray as in cinnamon or kde. I asked this question earlier, but I was thrown out of bed and I was not able to read the answer. | 12:35 |
| alkisg | Thrown out of bed? Hehe, nice :D | 12:36 |
| alkisg | I don't think gnome2 or mate support persistent notifications | 12:36 |
| alkisg | (or xfce, or notification-daemon) | 12:37 |
| alkisg | Only gnome3 (=cinnamon too) and kde4 do | 12:37 |
| alkisg | You could file a feature request, see if the devs want to implement it in the future | 12:37 |
| alkisg | karjala_, I'm using marco too and I don't have the issue | 12:38 |
| karjala_ | what is kbd lib? | 12:38 |
| karjala_ | how can i tell whether i'm using greek xorg layout? | 12:38 |
| alkisg | karjala_, you probably went into mate settings to add language or keyboard layout | 12:39 |
| alkisg | While the "correct thing" is to select greek in installation, which then goes to xorg configuration, which then works for all desktop environments | 12:39 |
| karjala_ | i don't think so | 12:39 |
| karjala_ | let me check | 12:39 |
| karjala_ | a | 12:39 |
| karjala_ | yes i didn't do the correct thing | 12:39 |
| alkisg | Try this: gsettings list-recursively | grep -w gr | 12:40 |
| karjala_ | but neither did i do the correct thing in my VM, which works without bug | 12:40 |
| karjala_ | org.mate.peripherals-keyboard-xkb.kbd layouts ['us', 'gr'] | 12:40 |
| alkisg | Now try: gsettings reset-recursively org.mate.peripherals-keyboard-xkb | 12:40 |
| alkisg | Btw, what's the output of this? cat /etc/default/keyboard | nc termbin.com 9999 | 12:41 |
| karjala_ | οοπσ | 12:42 |
| karjala_ | oops | 12:42 |
| karjala_ | i sent to termbin.com top secret data? | 12:42 |
| alkisg | Yes, the keyboard configuration | 12:43 |
| alkisg | It will tell NSA if you're using us,gr or gr,us | 12:43 |
| alkisg | They will arrest you for that | 12:43 |
| karjala_ | i didn't see an output, and I closed it | 12:43 |
| karjala_ | lol | 12:43 |
| alkisg | Run it again | 12:43 |
| alkisg | And paste the url here | 12:43 |
| karjala_ | my terminal doesn't have copy url | 12:44 |
| alkisg | Type it | 12:44 |
| alkisg | It's small | 12:44 |
| alkisg | Or select and right click and copy | 12:44 |
| alkisg | mate-terminal does have copy | 12:45 |
| karjala_ | http://termbin.com/wd08 | 12:45 |
| alkisg | This is the correct one for greece: http://termbin.com/enmv | 12:45 |
| karjala_ | shall i replace mine with yours? | 12:46 |
| karjala_ | ? | 12:46 |
| karjala_ | and after i replace, do i need to reboot for the change to take effect? | 12:47 |
| karjala_ | rebooting | 12:48 |
| karjala_ | alkisg, didn't solve the problem | 12:52 |
| karjala_ | here's what's causeing the problem | 12:53 |
| karjala_ | Step #1: Go to MATE Tweak | 12:54 |
| karjala_ | Choose the "Panel" Tab | 12:54 |
| karjala_ | check the "Enable HUD" checkbox | 12:54 |
| karjala_ | Congratz, you have the bug | 12:54 |
| karjala_ | but you get cured if you uncheck | 12:54 |
| karjala_ | i solved my problem, thanks all | 12:55 |
| alkisg | karjala_, ah that explains it | 12:55 |
| karjala_ | now it's up to the ubuntu team to fix it | 12:55 |
| alkisg | I always remove snapd and mate-hud | 12:55 |
| alkisg | It will never fix it if you don't report it | 12:55 |
| alkisg | to launchpad or github | 12:56 |
| karjala_ | ok | 12:56 |
| karjala_ | can you give me the url for github repo? | 12:56 |
| karjala_ | https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/mate-tweak/issues | 12:57 |
| karjala_ | found it | 12:57 |
| alkisg | not to tweak. to mate-hud. | 12:57 |
| karjala_ | https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/mate-hud/issues/29 | 13:00 |
| karjala_ | thanks alkis | 13:00 |
| karjala_ | mate is the best | 13:00 |
| alkisg | Great | 13:01 |
| karjala_ | alkisg, what's your relation to the ub mate project? Just a power user? | 13:17 |
| alkisg | karjala_: I'm a developer of applications not related to mate | 13:18 |
| karjala_ | me, web developer | 13:24 |
| elli | How do I disable Thunderbird Mail? | 17:22 |
| mate|13362 | hello world! | 19:04 |
| mate|13362 | Poland vs Colombia who wins? | 19:05 |
| diogenes_ | antananarivo | 19:07 |
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