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ubptgbot<dohbee> @amolith, Same thing mostly00:20
ubptgbot<John> Any bug fixes in v2?? Cuz Iam in diloma03:47
ubptgbot<John> [Edit] Any bug fixes in v2?? Cuz Iam in diloma in upgrading03:47
ubptgbot<Linuxman1> @matv1, Try older version of Ubports installer. It worked for me. The newest one did not worked.05:09
ubptgbotAravinthan S was added by: Aravinthan S06:40
ubptgbot<Aravinthan S> Hi guys can I install Ubuntu touch in my Microsoft Lumia 540 model06:41
ubptgbot<Aravinthan S> Pls tell me if I can install and how to do06:41
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> Nope06:41
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> supported devices are here: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/06:41
ubptgbot<Aravinthan S> Ok thank you06:43
ubptgbot<lukasz124> (Sticker, 507x512) https://irc.ubports.com/xyWLKQN4.webp07:55
ubptgbot<mymike00> tonight the battry improved a lot! I killed `hciattach` and the battery passed from 74% to 78% 😱🤣08:12
ubptgbot<mymike00> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/9bDOBfLI.png08:12
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> 😂08:14
ubptgbot<mymike00> but it's not the first time that the phone auto-charges itself...08:15
ubptgbot<mymike00> maybe because of an abnormal electromagnetic field that charges the phone through the inductive charging 😂08:17
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> i don't think so xD08:19
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> karma charged your phone!08:31
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> or do you have a beard? (and psychostick was right?)08:31
ubptgbot<YougoChats> nice idea though. include a thermal charger, attach it to the heat sink. start gaming, profit08:34
ubptgbot<leoaslan> Any progress on nexus 5x08:37
ubptgbot<leoaslan> Or is anyone try for Xperia x08:37
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ubptgbot<Stereofont> @matv1, I am completely lost with FP2. Have been trying for weeks08:45
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @leoaslan, All the effort is on getting 16.04 running without problems. Porting efforts have mostly been suspended08:48
ubptgbot<John_athan> File manager not able to uninstall in 16.0408:50
ubptgbot<Ingo_FP_Angel> @Stereofont, For the RC of 16/04 I wanted to do a fresh install including wipe on my test device. … I couldn't get adb to find my device. And then the installer left me at the screen where it says to connect my phone. … I ended up installing the Fairphone OS again first and making sure adb finds it.08:58
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ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Ingo_FP_Angel, I did that but still no luck. Some peculiarity of FP2 I suppose09:13
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ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Ingo_FP_Angel, i just flashed my FP2 to 16.04 devel with wipe, from a windows 7 pc without much issue. there's a forward slash in a path in the newest installer, but the ubports site recommended an older version so i did that. it didn't detect my device because it already was in fastboot mode so i selected manually.09:16
ubptgbot<YougoChats> installed fine after that09:16
ubptgbot<ixavier> @Stereofont, Go with ubports-installer version 0.1.12 AppImage. It works great. You can install 16.04 devel, then you just need to swicth to RC channel on update-settings09:19
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @ixavier, why not straihgt to rc from the instaler?09:20
ubptgbot<ixavier> Don't know if that old version of ubports installer has already the 16.04 RC channel09:22
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> It does09:43
ubptgbotcrytogeunius was added by: crytogeunius11:00
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @ixavier, [Edit] why not straight to rc from the installer?11:04
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> wooo i'm using egmde now LOL11:28
ubptgbot<Javacookies> what's that?11:29
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> mir example compositor I think?11:29
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> yep11:30
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/egmde-integrating-a-launcher/560311:30
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> i'm surprised my sleep deprived brain remembered that11:30
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> there will probably be a session in 18.10 with egmde11:30
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> yeah weird namimg :))11:31
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> [Edit] yeah weird naming11:31
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I thought you just missed letters from edge mode LOL11:33
ubptgbot<Javacookies> so you got it working on UT?11:33
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> nope11:36
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> on desktop11:37
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> but i'm using the latest mir and there is some progress11:37
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> resizing windows works now, it's more stable etc11:37
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/this-week-in-mir-23rd-june-2018/666812:13
ubptgbot<leoaslan> Ok12:14
ubptgbot<leoaslan> @Stereofont, OK12:14
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ubptgbotONeZetty was added by: ONeZetty14:55
ubptgbot<advocatux> @ONeZetty, Hi Zetty C-137, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started. … There's a Spanish group too 🤘14:57
ubptgbot<David_Gamiz_Jimenez> @popescu_sorin, 👍👏18:05
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/clzTkH08.png18:23
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> Hi Everybody, anyone has problem with WhatsApp Webapp?18:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> on 16.04? there seems to be some weirdness with webapps on 16.04, yes18:24
ubptgbot<YougoChats> On 16.04? YES, ME. whatsapp and every web app ever...18:24
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Fwd from YougoChats: 16.04 + FP2 + webapps is really no combination at all, is it? 😰 I bent over backwards going though allkinds of settings in the web app creator, but they all work once, maybe twice and then all just get the blank screen. Or flat out crash the whole phone!18:25
ubptgbot<paletuco> so do I with oneplus one ... You can try from browser airbnb login or telegram browser app18:33
ubptgbot<paletuco> maybe it has to  https protocol (I'm not a developper at all....)18:34
ubptgbot<paletuco> [Edit] maybe it has to be  https protocol (I'm not a developper at all....)18:35
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> Would it be possible to run chromium with it's somewhat-touch-optimised "new" ui?18:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Anything is possible18:36
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> Well, I guess I'm having an another sleepless night then18:37
ubptgbot<ONeZetty> @advocatux, thanks!! Gracias!!18:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> webapps working for me on nexus 418:38
ubptgbot<paletuco> telegram browser is working well in oneplus one18:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YJ2m0pYG.webp18:39
ubptgbot<ONeZetty> I have an old Nexus 4, I install UT onetime but, no sure that time.18:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, It's the same bug that happens in the browser itself18:39
ubptgbot<ONeZetty> So is going to be my next weekend proyect 😁18:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There's something wrong with the libpng that Oxide has in its source tree18:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So some websites crash18:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (That's our best guess)18:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> huh18:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's a segfault though18:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Everything segfaults18:40
ubptgbot<dohbee> ah, so it does18:42
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> OH18:43
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Amazing things happen when you read the docs18:43
ubptgbot<dohbee> so i've heard18:44
ubptgbot<paletuco> web.telegram.org "something went wrong trying to browse" https://web.telgram.org/#/im18:45
ubptgbot<paletuco> [Edit] web.telegram.org "something went wrong trying to browse" https://web.telegram.org/#/im18:46
ubptgbot<YougoChats> ^bad certificate18:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Alright, so yeah. Click prefers the hooks in `/opt` because that's its last mentioned database18:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That makes sense now that I know what a database is. Thanks docs.18:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah, the logic there needs some fixing18:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> but darn, i was hoping you had found a trivial solution to the browser issue :P18:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Nah18:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So this is just click being intentionally "dumb", right?18:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> something like that18:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's something that didn't get fixed, because click was slated to get replaced by snaps anyway, for the canonical 16.04 porting18:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> it might even be a reasonable idea to rewrite click all in c++ at this point, and simplify a lot of what's going on there18:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well things seem pretty... how do you say18:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> stateless?18:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> yeah18:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> but well, that's because it relies on packagekit to do a lot of the work18:57
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well that's going away if we want to go to 18.0418:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> but since new packagekit doesn't support plug-ins any more, that's a bit of a problem18:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> well if you want to have unity8 on PCs on 18.04, then it's an issue, indeed18:58
ubptgbot<IanIannotti> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/IDjoeHkz.webp19:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> uhm19:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Alright, so this isn't really a "Bug" in Click. More of a design decision19:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> well it's a bug in that the implementation doesn't handle the situation we've given it19:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> whether or not it was designed for that specific situation, seems irrelevant at this point. we're at that situation.19:02
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> Well now my Oneplus One just arrived.19:03
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I have successfully removed the OpenStore through stupidity19:15
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Go me19:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> you remount rw and rm -rf the preinstalled dir?19:15
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No, I messed with clicks enough to send it into oblivion19:16
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> So for whatever reason, the version in preinstalled is the same as the version not in preinstalled. I'm not sure how, because it should be 2.50 in 16.04 to my knowledge19:18
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That'll do it.19:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> the preinstalled should be used in that case though, as i understand19:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> there's a unit test for that even19:21
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> If the same version appears in both databases, use the one with lower priority?19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That seems improbably19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> [Edit] That seems improbable19:23
ubptgbot<Flohack> Are negative priorities allowed19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> What19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Why?19:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> "use the deepest one"19:23
ubptgbot<riccardovidotto> @dohbee, Oh great, thank you19:24
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Deepest19:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That isn't defined19:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> well the unit test defines it as the lowest level db19:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> honestly, i think we should get rid of the preinstalled clicks in the rootfs anyway19:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> and put them in custom19:27
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> @AlexanderPlaza, It appears like the volume buttons don't work... <,< darn ebay sellers.19:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @dohbee, Custom is still lower priority than default19:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, it's preinstalled -> custom -> /opt19:28
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yep19:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> moving everything from preinstalled to custom will mean smaller rootfs, and one less click db to have in the confusion, thouhg19:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> so there'd only be two places where they could be installed, and simpler comparisons could be done about which to use19:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Aha, I see19:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That makes it a lot easier to do cool stuff with the installer too19:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> and gives us some room to add more languages to the system19:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> "Don't want the terminal? Okay, you get this custom then"19:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> well you could just do a dselect style installer, and build the custom tarball on the fly too19:32
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yep19:32
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That was exactly what I was thinking19:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> although at that point, i wouldn't even stick most things into custom, i'd just work on enabling remote installs, and only put open store in custom maybe; then you flash, and after the system is up you tell it to install apps x y and z19:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> then if user wants to uninstall them later to free space, it will actually work19:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> instead of uninstall just being a broken symlink with custom tarball eating up space19:35
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Or go an abstraction up19:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And only unpack into the main database19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> "abstraction up" is a great band name19:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Actually preinstall the apps into the user's space19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, also that, as there is supposed to be a flag to denote a package cannot be uninstalled19:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> but i'm not sure how to actually use it for anything19:42
ubptgbotSabine Malek was added by: Sabine Malek20:08
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @AlexanderPlaza, You mean with Android installed?20:42
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> @Stereofont, Yup, but I fixed it. Appears like the seller had opened up the back and accidentially flipped it upside down. So all fixed and I'm happy. I'll be putting UBPorts on it soon20:46
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @AlexanderPlaza, 👍20:52
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Sabine !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome21:12
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @AlexanderPlaza, So the seller poked around, screwed up, and sold a perfectly good phone thinking he broke it?21:27
ubptgbot<YougoChats> You should contact him and thank him 😜21:28
ubptgbot<AlexanderPlaza> @YougoChats, He sold it thinking it was a perfectly good phone, that's the problem!21:30
ubptgbot<YougoChats> He must have known about the buttons not working (even if he didn't realise why)21:31
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I have a second hand opo comming, hopefully will go well21:33
ubptgbot<mateosalta> I'll be one phone away from having all the upbpors devices21:33
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Gotta collect 'em all21:37
ubptgbot<mateosalta> (Sticker, 512x457) https://irc.ubports.com/3vExS0XV.webp21:41
ubptgbot<ignorare> @Ingo_FP_Angel, Ingo, is this still the newest version?21:59
ubptgbot<ignorare> @dohbee, Please excuse me Rodney, just for better understanding of SSH scheme: I create a key pair on my phone. Now all computers for whom I want to provide SSH-acess to the phone should have the phones public key in their ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. Is this correct?22:07
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> What's the story with the new OSMScout app (for both Vivid and Xenial) on the Openstore? Is it intended to displace the existing one (only for Vivid)?22:09
ubptgbot<dohbee> @ignorare, no. that would be to access those computers from your phone, via ssh22:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> you need to generate the keypair on your pc and add the public key to your phone, to access the phone via ssh22:11
ubptgbot<ignorare> Aaah! Thank you! So it is just the other way around? 😄22:12
ubptgbot<ignorare> @dohbee, Aaah! Thank you! So it is just the other way around? 😄22:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes22:16
ubptgbot<GiovanniStaiano> @neothethird, Okay! Please could you take a look at these two issues? … https://github.com/ubports/dialer-app/issues/36https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/709 … Thank you!22:44

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