 @amolith, Same thing mostly
 Any bug fixes in v2?? Cuz Iam in diloma
 [Edit] Any bug fixes in v2?? Cuz Iam in diloma in upgrading
 @matv1, Try older version of Ubports installer. It worked for me. The newest one did not worked.
[06:40] <ubptgbot> Aravinthan S was added by: Aravinthan S
[06:41] <ubptgbot> <Aravinthan S> Hi guys can I install Ubuntu touch in my Microsoft Lumia 540 model
[06:41] <ubptgbot> <Aravinthan S> Pls tell me if I can install and how to do
 Nope
 supported devices are here: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/
[06:43] <ubptgbot> <Aravinthan S> Ok thank you
 (Sticker, 507x512) https://irc.ubports.com/xyWLKQN4.webp
 tonight the battry improved a lot! I killed `hciattach` and the battery passed from 74% to 78% 😱🤣
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/9bDOBfLI.png
 😂
 but it's not the first time that the phone auto-charges itself...
 maybe because of an abnormal electromagnetic field that charges the phone through the inductive charging 😂
 i don't think so xD
 karma charged your phone!
 or do you have a beard? (and psychostick was right?)
 nice idea though. include a thermal charger, attach it to the heat sink. start gaming, profit
 Any progress on nexus 5x
 Or is anyone try for Xperia x
 @matv1, I am completely lost with FP2. Have been trying for weeks
 @leoaslan, All the effort is on getting 16.04 running without problems. Porting efforts have mostly been suspended
 File manager not able to uninstall in 16.04
 @Stereofont, For the RC of 16/04 I wanted to do a fresh install including wipe on my test device. … I couldn't get adb to find my device. And then the installer left me at the screen where it says to connect my phone. … I ended up installing the Fairphone OS again first and making sure adb finds it.
 @Ingo_FP_Angel, I did that but still no luck. Some peculiarity of FP2 I suppose
 @Ingo_FP_Angel, i just flashed my FP2 to 16.04 devel with wipe, from a windows 7 pc without much issue. there's a forward slash in a path in the newest installer, but the ubports site recommended an older version so i did that. it didn't detect my device because it already was in fastboot mode so i selected manually.
 installed fine after that
 @Stereofont, Go with ubports-installer version 0.1.12 AppImage. It works great. You can install 16.04 devel, then you just need to swicth to RC channel on update-settings
 @ixavier, why not straihgt to rc from the instaler?
 Don't know if that old version of ubports installer has already the 16.04 RC channel
 It does
[11:00] <ubptgbot> crytogeunius was added by: crytogeunius
 @ixavier, [Edit] why not straight to rc from the installer?
 wooo i'm using egmde now LOL
 what's that?
 mir example compositor I think?
 yep
 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/egmde-integrating-a-launcher/5603
 i'm surprised my sleep deprived brain remembered that
 there will probably be a session in 18.10 with egmde
 yeah weird namimg :))
 [Edit] yeah weird naming
 I thought you just missed letters from edge mode LOL
 so you got it working on UT?
 nope
 on desktop
 but i'm using the latest mir and there is some progress
 resizing windows works now, it's more stable etc
 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/this-week-in-mir-23rd-june-2018/6668
 Ok
 @Stereofont, OK
[14:55] <ubptgbot> ONeZetty was added by: ONeZetty
 @ONeZetty, Hi Zetty C-137, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started. … There's a Spanish group too 🤘
 @popescu_sorin, 👍👏
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/clzTkH08.png
 Hi Everybody, anyone has problem with WhatsApp Webapp?
 on 16.04? there seems to be some weirdness with webapps on 16.04, yes
 On 16.04? YES, ME. whatsapp and every web app ever...
 Fwd from YougoChats: 16.04 + FP2 + webapps is really no combination at all, is it? 😰 I bent over backwards going though allkinds of settings in the web app creator, but they all work once, maybe twice and then all just get the blank screen. Or flat out crash the whole phone!
 so do I with oneplus one ... You can try from browser airbnb login or telegram browser app
 maybe it has to  https protocol (I'm not a developper at all....)
 [Edit] maybe it has to be  https protocol (I'm not a developper at all....)
 Would it be possible to run chromium with it's somewhat-touch-optimised "new" ui?
 Anything is possible
 Well, I guess I'm having an another sleepless night then
 @advocatux, thanks!! Gracias!!
 webapps working for me on nexus 4
 telegram browser is working well in oneplus one
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YJ2m0pYG.webp
 I have an old Nexus 4, I install UT onetime but, no sure that time.
 @dohbee, It's the same bug that happens in the browser itself
 So is going to be my next weekend proyect 😁
 There's something wrong with the libpng that Oxide has in its source tree
 So some websites crash
 (That's our best guess)
 huh
 It's a segfault though
 Everything segfaults
 ah, so it does
 OH
 Amazing things happen when you read the docs
 so i've heard
 web.telegram.org "something went wrong trying to browse" https://web.telgram.org/#/im
 [Edit] web.telegram.org "something went wrong trying to browse" https://web.telegram.org/#/im
 ^bad certificate
 Alright, so yeah. Click prefers the hooks in `/opt` because that's its last mentioned database
 That makes sense now that I know what a database is. Thanks docs.
 yeah, the logic there needs some fixing
 but darn, i was hoping you had found a trivial solution to the browser issue :P
 Nah
 So this is just click being intentionally "dumb", right?
 something like that
 it's something that didn't get fixed, because click was slated to get replaced by snaps anyway, for the canonical 16.04 porting
 it might even be a reasonable idea to rewrite click all in c++ at this point, and simplify a lot of what's going on there
 Well things seem pretty... how do you say
 stateless?
 yeah
 but well, that's because it relies on packagekit to do a lot of the work
 Well that's going away if we want to go to 18.04
 but since new packagekit doesn't support plug-ins any more, that's a bit of a problem
 well if you want to have unity8 on PCs on 18.04, then it's an issue, indeed
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/IDjoeHkz.webp
 uhm
 Alright, so this isn't really a "Bug" in Click. More of a design decision
 well it's a bug in that the implementation doesn't handle the situation we've given it
 whether or not it was designed for that specific situation, seems irrelevant at this point. we're at that situation.
 Well now my Oneplus One just arrived.
 I have successfully removed the OpenStore through stupidity
 Go me
 you remount rw and rm -rf the preinstalled dir?
 No, I messed with clicks enough to send it into oblivion
 So for whatever reason, the version in preinstalled is the same as the version not in preinstalled. I'm not sure how, because it should be 2.50 in 16.04 to my knowledge
 That'll do it.
 the preinstalled should be used in that case though, as i understand
 there's a unit test for that even
 If the same version appears in both databases, use the one with lower priority?
 That seems improbably
 [Edit] That seems improbable
 Are negative priorities allowed
 What
 Why?
 "use the deepest one"
 @dohbee, Oh great, thank you
 @dohbee, Deepest
 That isn't defined
 well the unit test defines it as the lowest level db
 honestly, i think we should get rid of the preinstalled clicks in the rootfs anyway
 and put them in custom
 @AlexanderPlaza, It appears like the volume buttons don't work... <,< darn ebay sellers.
 @dohbee, Custom is still lower priority than default
 @UniversalSuperBox, it's preinstalled -> custom -> /opt
 Yep
 moving everything from preinstalled to custom will mean smaller rootfs, and one less click db to have in the confusion, thouhg
 so there'd only be two places where they could be installed, and simpler comparisons could be done about which to use
 Aha, I see
 That makes it a lot easier to do cool stuff with the installer too
 and gives us some room to add more languages to the system
 "Don't want the terminal? Okay, you get this custom then"
 well you could just do a dselect style installer, and build the custom tarball on the fly too
 Yep
 That was exactly what I was thinking
 although at that point, i wouldn't even stick most things into custom, i'd just work on enabling remote installs, and only put open store in custom maybe; then you flash, and after the system is up you tell it to install apps x y and z
 then if user wants to uninstall them later to free space, it will actually work
 instead of uninstall just being a broken symlink with custom tarball eating up space
 Or go an abstraction up
 And only unpack into the main database
 "abstraction up" is a great band name
 Actually preinstall the apps into the user's space
 @UniversalSuperBox, also that, as there is supposed to be a flag to denote a package cannot be uninstalled
 but i'm not sure how to actually use it for anything
[20:08] <ubptgbot> Sabine Malek was added by: Sabine Malek
 @AlexanderPlaza, You mean with Android installed?
 @Stereofont, Yup, but I fixed it. Appears like the seller had opened up the back and accidentially flipped it upside down. So all fixed and I'm happy. I'll be putting UBPorts on it soon
 @AlexanderPlaza, 👍
 Welcome Sabine !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @AlexanderPlaza, So the seller poked around, screwed up, and sold a perfectly good phone thinking he broke it?
 You should contact him and thank him 😜
 @YougoChats, He sold it thinking it was a perfectly good phone, that's the problem!
 He must have known about the buttons not working (even if he didn't realise why)
 I have a second hand opo comming, hopefully will go well
 I'll be one phone away from having all the upbpors devices
 Gotta collect 'em all
 (Sticker, 512x457) https://irc.ubports.com/3vExS0XV.webp
 @Ingo_FP_Angel, Ingo, is this still the newest version?
 @dohbee, Please excuse me Rodney, just for better understanding of SSH scheme: I create a key pair on my phone. Now all computers for whom I want to provide SSH-acess to the phone should have the phones public key in their ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. Is this correct?
 What's the story with the new OSMScout app (for both Vivid and Xenial) on the Openstore? Is it intended to displace the existing one (only for Vivid)?
 @ignorare, no. that would be to access those computers from your phone, via ssh
 you need to generate the keypair on your pc and add the public key to your phone, to access the phone via ssh
 Aaah! Thank you! So it is just the other way around? 😄
 @dohbee, Aaah! Thank you! So it is just the other way around? 😄
 yes
 @neothethird, Okay! Please could you take a look at these two issues? … https://github.com/ubports/dialer-app/issues/36 … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/709 … Thank you!