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EickmeyerOvenWerks: Haven't tried it yet, but I'll report back. It's a Dell Inspiron 5576 Gaming.01:00
OvenWerksEickmeyer: I am just looking at this page: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25776/detecting-headphone-connection-disconnection-in-linux03:14
OvenWerksThe very last answer is decidedly different from the rest. It talks about using hda-verb to set pin controls rather than using alsamixer to turn speakers off and on.03:16
OvenWerksEickmeyer: http://www.alsa-project.org/hda-analyzer.py looks useful for finding out more info. It is similar to hdajackretask but at a lower level03:27
OvenWerksHmm, I was able to switch my internal HDA to 2/6 i/o03:44
OvenWerksAlsamixer seems to do that.03:44
OvenWerksAnyway, hdaanalyzer seems to show setting similar to alsamixer03:49
OvenWerks but they don't seem to do anything. That may be (in my case) because the plugs are set to ac9703:51
OvenWerksTo whoever does our web page :)  someone actually left a comment on http://ubuntustudio.org/2018/06/introducing-the-ubuntu-studio-audio-handbook/ and was horrified that it actually put their plain text email address in rather than their logged in nick15:10
OvenWerksOn further reflection... if you have to have a launchpad account to comment one could look up the email anyway.15:12
OvenWerksAnyway, they would like their email removed... the comment can be removed if that is the easiest/quickest method.15:14
OvenWerksOh... Yuck! the login process to leave a comment is quite a pain. It takes me through at least three screens... one of them twice.15:24
OvenWerksI put an email in as well. I have no idea how I would remove that comment... who has moderators authority where to go to use such authority, etc.15:30
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Done. I didn't remove the comment, but I did remove any reference to an email address. Login is required, but using an email address to post a comment is not required. In fact, if one is already logged-in to Launchpad it should "just work."15:34
EickmeyerAnd, unfortunately, there's no way to change the process.15:35
OvenWerksHuh, I wonder how that happened then. Oh well. so long as it is fixed. I am guessing this may show up again?15:35
OvenWerksMaybe we should not allow comments?15:36
EickmeyerHe's the first person to ever have this problem. I look back at the other comments and absolutely nobody other than him used their email address in the comments.15:36
EickmeyerHe made a mistake somewhere.15:36
OvenWerksBTW, the comments about the handbook in #lad have been less than complementary.15:37
EickmeyerWhat's their problem?15:38
OvenWerksThere is a feeling that example plugins should be non-proprietary, that using a windows vst with wine to make it work rather than a lxvst is a mistake... and that some of the info is just wrong.15:39
OvenWerksIt is true that people should be encouraged to use linux native plugins. There are some very goods one out there both open and proprietary.15:40
OvenWerksUsing wine to get around this does not scale.15:40
OvenWerks(which is why Ardour does not sandbox plugins)15:40
OvenWerksmy Yf and son want to go berry picking, but there is tyhe darkest, meanest looking rain cloud in the direction they want to go :P15:42
OvenWerksEickmeyer: of course audio setup will change with the intro of -controls15:43
EickmeyerWell, nobody got paid to do it, so I don't care.15:43
OvenWerks:)15:43
* Eickmeyer is a little grumpy this morning15:43
* OvenWerks hasn't had time to read through it yet.15:44
OvenWerksthe comments in #lad were from the 21st so long gone.15:47
EickmeyerOvenWerks: If they're not commenting directly, then obviously the issue isn't that pressing. Besides, as I said, nobody got paid to write it.15:59
EickmeyerOvenWerks: No idea what to do about manpages for Carla.16:19
EickmeyerFalkTX never wrote any.16:19
OvenWerksI am not sure if there have to be man pages. But they would not be hard to write.21:48
OvenWerksBasically man pages are for commandline parameters and I don't know if Carla has any.21:49
OvenWerks Other than that, just a quick description is all that is needed.21:49
OvenWerksEickmeyer: this one is already probably more wordy than needed: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls/tree/usr/share/man/man1/ubuntustudio-controls.121:51
OvenWerksY9ou would only need to do a man page for the binary, not the plugins, I think.21:52
EickmeyerYeah, I think that's correct.21:53
EickmeyerRight now I'm working on the /usr/lib/pkgconfig issue (it's not allowed)21:54
OvenWerks :)21:56
EickmeyerThe other issue is the Epoch number without comment. No clue how to handle that.22:00
OvenWerksEickmeyer: you may or may not be able to.22:02
OvenWerksI don't know either22:02
EickmeyerSo, just leave it? Won't it get rejected?22:02
OvenWerksIt is just a "W" (warning) so I think leave it.22:03
EickmeyerOkay, cool.22:03
EickmeyerLooks like the /pkgconfig issue is just a warning too.22:28
OvenWerksThe "E" ones are the errors.22:29
EickmeyerIf that's the case, all of the errors lintian is throwing for me are simply warnings.22:40
OvenWerkscool. If the package is just for ubuntu that is ok. I think debian packaging is more picky.22:41
EickmeyerI'd have no problem with it simply being in Universe. Debian would take much more time.22:42
OvenWerksThere yu go.22:44
OvenWerksso not a problem then22:44

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