[06:33] <didrocks> good morning
[06:38] <jibel> salut didrocks
[06:39] <didrocks> salut jibel
[06:41] <duflu> Morning didrocks and jibel
[06:46] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:47] <jibel> Hi duflu
[06:59] <Laney> hai
[07:15] <didrocks> hey Laney
[07:23] <duflu> Hi Laney
[07:31] <duflu> didrocks, do you know how/where to get official release tarballs from gitlab? I can only find tarballs for the release tags, but those are bz2 at best and Debian continues to prefer xz
[07:32] <didrocks> duflu: I don't think they attach to the release on gitlab
[07:32] <didrocks> duflu: you still have to go to GNOME FTP
[07:32] <duflu> I forgot that exists
[07:32] <didrocks> you even have a ML
[07:33] <didrocks> what do you need? I may have the link handy
[07:33] <didrocks> (searching on the ML is easier)
[07:33] <duflu> didrocks, I need this https://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gjs/1.53/ Thanks.
[07:34] <didrocks> ok, so you got it ;)
[07:41] <willcooke> morning
[07:42] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:50] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[07:59] <alexarnaud> Hello all
[08:00] <duflu> Hi alexarnaud
[08:13] <youpi> Trevinho, andyrock: Hello, I'm available if you have questions/comments on my patches (samuel thibault)
[08:30] <Trevinho> youpi: ok
[08:30] <Trevinho> hi :)
[08:31] <Trevinho> didrocks: we were saying with Laney about moving the "Convert a package to git for the first time from Debian" section to a subpage, what would you think?
[09:52] <didrocks> Trevinho: I don't think there is enough to justify the move, because you can argue the same about "create a maintainance branch", everything in one page (if it doesn't grow more) I guess is fine
[09:52] <didrocks> but yeah, your section 4. practically double the import procedure…
[09:52] <Laney> it's because it's a really long section that only some people will need
[09:52] <Laney> and only time limited really
[09:53] <Laney> not like "how to contribute to these packages" but more administrative
[09:54] <didrocks> yeah, feel free to move it if you think it's useful, but only one section there will be weird IMHO
[09:54] <Laney> it'll be like /git/NewPackageImport
[09:54] <Laney> thx!
[09:55] <didrocks> should you copy the page to have the edit history as well? As we don't like loosing change history around here :p
[09:56] <Trevinho> I'd prefer :)
[10:00] <Laney> 🙊🙊🙊🙊
[10:35] <scw> f
[10:35] <scw> e
[10:35] <scw> q
[10:36] <scw> difo
[10:36] <scw> c
[10:36] <scw> qq
[10:49] <willcooke_> bah.  Tried to work outside but my laptop over heated
[10:54] <didrocks> typical issue…
[11:09] <willcooke_> not very typical in the UK ;D
[11:15] <alexarnaud> :) it's pretty the same in the Paris area IMO
[13:25] <seb128> good afternoon desktopers!
[13:25] <seb128> (in time for the meeting \o/)
[13:26] <seb128> train just arrived, I stopped on the way from the station to grab lunch and internet :)
[13:26] <Laney> impressive work!
[13:27] <seb128> Laney, buon pomeriggio!
[13:27] <seb128> com'è l'italia?
[13:28] <didrocks> waow, just in time seb128! pleasant flight?
[13:29] <Laney> molto bene! molto cibo e caffè
[13:29] <seb128> grandioso
[13:29] <kenvandine> meeting time!
[13:30] <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-06-26
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 26 13:30:16 2018 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <seb128> didrocks, uneventful, I don't think I've anything to say about it, which is what you want :)
[13:30] <didrocks> :)
[13:30] <kenvandine> Roll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:30] <didrocks> hey o/
[13:30] <andyrock> o/
[13:30] <Trevinho> \o
[13:30] <jibel> hi
[13:31] <kenvandine> lets get started
[13:31] <kenvandine> #topic andyrock
[13:31] <andyrock> hey
[13:31] <andyrock> - Fix for LP: #1764723
[13:31] <andyrock> - Fix for LP: #1768797
[13:31] <andyrock> - Fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/373
[13:31] <andyrock> - Fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/372
[13:31] <andyrock> - WIP: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/171
[13:31] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug 373 in gnome-shell "Some keybindings should discard auto-repeat events" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:31] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug 372 in gnome-shell "Keeping Alt+Space pressed shows the window menu and then minimizes the window" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:31] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug 171 in gnome-shell "On screen keyboard closes itself while browsing the language menu" (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:32] <andyrock> EOW
[13:32] <kenvandine> thx
[13:32] <kenvandine> #topic dgadomski
[13:32] <dgadomski> hey
[13:32] <dgadomski> nothing desktop-related this week to share
[13:32] <dgadomski> thanks
[13:32] <kenvandine> thx :)
[13:32] <kenvandine> #topic didrocks
[13:32] <didrocks> * Telemetry:
[13:32] <didrocks>   - reviewed and discussed various metrics and some enhancements with j_ibel
[13:32] <didrocks>   - change CPU information report strategy to move from cpuinfo to using lspcu. Updated the output samples. Released 1.2.0: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-report/1.2.0. Waiting in unapproved for bonic (rls tracking bug)
[13:32] <didrocks> * Apport/whoopsie:
[13:32] <didrocks>   - rework the UI after our agreement. Updated all the tests for it. MP is at https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/apport/whoopsie-auto-ui/+merge/348479 (rls tracking bug)
[13:32] <didrocks> * Git workflow:
[13:32] <didrocks>   - long discussions and multiple review on git workflow vs importing branch from the first time.
[13:32] <didrocks>   - reviewed as well GNOME Shell SRU along this.
[13:32] <didrocks> * Communitheme:
[13:32] <didrocks>   - standard set of discussions around theming, impacts and such
[13:32] <didrocks> No other pending rls tracking bug for me than above (but more to come due to whoopsie/apport regressions).
[13:33] <didrocks> .
[13:33] <kenvandine> thx
[13:33] <kenvandine> #topic duflu
[13:33] <kenvandine> * BlueZ newz:
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - 5.50 was released to cosmic.
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - SRU proposed for bionic, awaiting sponsorship: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759628 (although it doesn't show up on the Sponsoring Overview page).
[13:33] <kenvandine> * PulseAudio:
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - Proposed upgrade to 12.0 in cosmic, now on hold (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778178) because I noticed it's depending on universe, so:
[13:33] <kenvandine>     . HELP: [MIR] libsoxr: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1702558
[13:33] <kenvandine> * Mutter: Completed/fixed various upstream branches under review:
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/117
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - clutter: Smooth out master clock to smooth visuals: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/70
[13:33] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug (Merge request) 117 in mutter "clutter: Fix offscreen-effect painting of clones" (comments: 15) [Opened]
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - renderer-native: Simplify flip completion logic: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/140
[13:33] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug (Merge request) 70 in mutter "clutter: Smooth out master clock to smooth visuals" (comments: 30) [Opened]
[13:33] <gitlab-bot> GNOME bug (Merge request) 140 in mutter "renderer-native: Simplify flip completion logic." (comments: 0) [Opened]
[13:33] <kenvandine> * Cosmic problems worth noting:
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - Can't install cosmic: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1775743 (fully fixed starting in tomorrow's images?)
[13:33] <kenvandine>   - Can't update cosmic: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1776622 (snapd)
[13:33] <kenvandine> * Travel booked.
[13:33] <kenvandine> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
[13:34] <kenvandine>   - Put some more time into closing old bugs so looking good...
[13:34] <kenvandine>   - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
[13:34] <kenvandine> #topic jbicha
[13:34] <kenvandine> ok, i guess jbicha isn't around
[13:34] <kenvandine> #topic jamesh
[13:34] <kenvandine> no report
[13:34] <kenvandine> #topic jibel/heber
[13:35] <jibel> - Finished the SRU verification of gnome-software in Xenial.
[13:35] <jibel> - Desktop dashboard work
[13:35] <jibel> - Maintenance of the CI infrastructure (main server was down)
[13:35] <jibel> - Snap bluez tests running on Desktop using testflinger.
[13:35] <jibel> - Continuing the integration of snap bluez tests into CE testing system.
[13:35] <jibel> - *Note*: No new image since June 11th due to the failure of the QA infra and now ISOs are failing to build (bionic and cosmic) Foundations is on it.
[13:35] <jibel> done
[13:35] <kenvandine> jibel, great
[13:35] <kenvandine> #topic kenvandine
[13:35] <kenvandine> * Created snap-only branch of gnome-software which doesn't attempt to replace the distro provided version of gnome-software for non-ubuntu distros but rather provide a "Snap" only interface by only enabling what's needed for the snap backend.
[13:35] <kenvandine> * Patched evolution-indicator in cosmic to handle evolution desktop file rename https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-indicator/+bug/1778544
[13:35] <kenvandine> ⚾
[13:35] <kenvandine> #topic laney
[13:35] <Laney> • systemd --user:
[13:35] <Laney> ∘ some final cleanups around fallback behaviour, to make the transition softer
[13:35] <Laney> ∘ been writing a blog post, look out for it on a planet gnome near you soon
[13:35] <Laney> ∘ also a wiki with some technical information https://wiki.gnome.org/action/login/Initiatives/SystemdUser
[13:36] <Laney> • bit of autopkgtest cleanup after the DC outage last weekend
[13:36] <Laney> • some small advising on git things
[13:36] <Laney> • helped review the nux / xorg cleanup sru, sponsored into unapproved now
[13:36] <Laney> • sun sprint fun times
[13:36] <Laney> 🌞
[13:36] <kenvandine> looks like an awesome sprint!
[13:36] <kenvandine> #topic seb128
[13:36] <seb128> • joined the sun sprint for a few days, that was great, thanks again Trevinho!
[13:36] <seb128> • wrapped up some HR discussions from review
[13:36] <seb128> • reviewed our "bionic fix commited" bugs to evaluate if the backlog was normal or sign of a problem, turned out that most things are in shape
[13:36] <seb128> • some SRU verifications (and worked with OEM team to get some extra ones)
[13:36] <seb128> • started cleaning up the 18.04 trello board, archiving some cards, moving others to done or in the new cycle board
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[13:37] <kenvandine> #topic tkamppeter
[13:38] <kenvandine> ok, no tkamppeter it seems
[13:38] <kenvandine> #topic trevinho
[13:38] <Trevinho> · Branches for gnome-shell ubuntu/master and ubuntu/bionic
[13:38] <Trevinho> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/
[13:38] <Trevinho> · Some discussion reviews to the git workflow,
[13:38] <Trevinho> · Automatized the git branch creation
[13:38] <Trevinho>  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/k7qcJwzbkC/
[13:38] <Trevinho>  Ported so far cheese, file-roller, gdm, gedit, gnome-control-center,
[13:38] <Trevinho>  gnome-keyring, gnome-session, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-shell,
[13:38] <Trevinho>  gnome-software, gnome-terminal, gnome-themes-extra, rhythmbox,
[13:38] <Trevinho>  totem, vino, vte2.91
[13:38] <Trevinho> · Preparing nautilus salsa to be fixed to support this (tag missing)
[13:38] <Trevinho> · Working on mutter SRU debdiff
[13:38] <Trevinho> 🍝
[13:38] <kenvandine> thx
[13:39] <kenvandine> #topic robert_ancell
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Updated PackageKit autoremove branch based on upstream feedback https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/pull/253
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Removed legacy Unity System Compositor support from LightDM https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/lightdm/pull/26
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Fix GNOME Software crashes:
[13:39] <gitlab-bot> hughsie bug (Pull request) 253 in PackageKit "aptcc: Only autoremove packages that relate to the current transaction" (comments: 19) [Open]
[13:39] <gitlab-bot> CanonicalLtd bug (Pull request) 26 in lightdm "Remove Unity System Compositor support - it is a dead project" (comments: 1) [Open]
[13:39] <kenvandine>    - https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778160
[13:39] <kenvandine>    - https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778135
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Release Jean-Baptiste's startup delay for GNOME Software to cosmic
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Add support to snapd-glib for new publisher information
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Add support to snapd-glib for snap refresh information
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Proposed stability fixed in gnome-control-center printers panel
[13:39] <kenvandine> - GNOME Software stakeholders meeting
[13:39] <kenvandine> - Proposed myself as a co-maintainer of gnome-control-center and gnome-software.
[13:40] <seb128> kenvandine, do you know if he got any feedback on the co-maintainer thing?
[13:40] <kenvandine> i don't
[13:40] <Laney> that autostart thing got uploaded?
[13:40] <Laney> :/
[13:41] <seb128> weird, Robert replied to my email basically saying "I'm not working on that"
[13:41] <seb128> I meant to follow up on that today...
[13:41] <seb128> typical Robert :)
[13:41] <kenvandine> i think he was saying he wasn't planning to discuss it with upstream
[13:41] <kenvandine> and just uploaded jibel's fix
[13:41] <Laney> I'd posted on the bug saying that I thought it was a bad idea basically
[13:41] <seb128> that feels like wrong
[13:42] <kenvandine> perhaps he didn't feel like he was the best person to debate it upstream ?
[13:42] <seb128> let's take that as a side discussion after meeting
[13:42] <kenvandine> anyway
[13:42] <kenvandine> #topic aob
[13:43] <willcooke> I've just had an email from Till:
[13:43] <seb128> no rls bugs?
[13:43] <willcooke> - cpdb-libs: Added autopkg test (using upstream CLI demo backend) and symbols files for the libraries. Updated packages for MIR.
[13:43] <willcooke> - cups-filters: Returned to postponed default output order determination in PPD generator.
[13:43] <willcooke> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Mentoring of the students on Common Print Dialog Backends and printer auto-selection by job.
[13:43] <willcooke> - Bugs.
[13:43] <willcooke> oops, sorry seb128
[13:43] <seb128> hey willcooke :)
[13:43] <kenvandine> whoops... i need to add rls bugs to my meeting script :)
[13:43] <seb128> willcooke, kenvandine, Till did that already at the previous meeting, in what tz is he now?
[13:44] <Laney> missing rls bug status from most people actually
[13:44]  * Laney nods to didrocks ;-)
[13:45] <seb128> good point
[13:45] <seb128> kenvandine, rls?
[13:45] <kenvandine> #topic rls
[13:46] <kenvandine> do we want to start with incoming?
[13:46] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, TBH, that was a little bit at the last minute :p
[13:46] <Laney> lalala
[13:46] <kenvandine> actually we don't have any on incoming
[13:48] <Laney> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html this has two I think
[13:48] <Laney> guess we should start looking at this one also
[13:48] <Trevinho> I wanted to propose 1730765 as well
[13:48] <kenvandine> oh cc :)
[13:49] <seb128> bug #1730765
[13:49] <seb128> Trevinho, there is upstream work ongoing on that one, would be nice to get that for sure
[13:49] <didrocks> +1
[13:49] <didrocks> (still not merged upstream AFAIK)
[13:50] <seb128> it would be nice but I don't think we want to target/milestone it
[13:50] <seb128> I mean it's not on our team features' list and I don't see a reason why it would be a blocker/critical
[13:51] <didrocks> agreed
[13:51] <Trevinho> ack, I mean I think I mentioned that in some cards about unity deltas, but that's fine if we delay
[13:53] <seb128> kenvandine: -notfixing?
[13:53] <Trevinho> I'd just not milestone it, leaving as it is
[13:53]  * seb128 feels like intertia at this part of the meeting
[13:53] <seb128> move move move
[13:53] <kenvandine> seb128, sorry... i'm looking at the list :)
[13:53] <kenvandine> sure
[13:54]  * seb128 hands some coffee to kenvandine
[13:54] <kenvandine> my cup is empty
[13:54] <seb128> so that one is -notfixing by agreement it seems
[13:55] <seb128> and the others are foundations owned
[13:55] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html ?
[13:55] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:56] <kenvandine> bug 1767027	 isn't assigned
[13:56] <seb128> I just did
[13:56] <seb128> it was assigned to Marco for cosmic
[13:56] <seb128> did the same for bionic
[13:56] <Trevinho> yes... :)
[13:56] <seb128> there is the g-s from Robert
[13:56] <kenvandine> yeah
[13:56] <seb128> does he plan to handle the SRUing?
[13:57] <kenvandine> yes
[13:57] <Trevinho> seb128: on that I've the work upstream, it's  to reshape but I can SRU it soon
[13:57] <Trevinho> hopefully
[13:57] <kenvandine> he asked jibel to update the bug description to prepare for SRU
[13:57] <seb128> Trevinho, thx
[13:57] <seb128> kenvandine, k
[13:57] <kenvandine> i assigned it
[13:57] <seb128> the other unassigned one is fix commited
[13:57] <seb128> so I guess we are good?
[13:57] <kenvandine> not sure if we care to SRU to xenial though
[13:58] <Trevinho> I was waiting for review which arrived, but I still have some points that imho needs to be fixed..
[13:58] <seb128> not worth for xenial omho
[13:58] <Trevinho> (side effect of the change)
[13:58] <seb128> k
[13:59] <andyrock> for bionic I think we should consider this too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1764723
[14:00] <willcooke> +1
[14:00] <seb128> andyrock, you can tag it rls-bb-incoming if we want to get it on the list
[14:00] <seb128> or use the "nominate for..." under the table
[14:00] <kenvandine> ok, i think that's pretty much it
[14:00] <seb128> or->and
[14:00] <andyrock> kk
[14:00] <seb128> kenvandine, looks like it
[14:00] <seb128> but yeah, +1
[14:00] <kenvandine> #topic aob
[14:01] <seb128> andyrock, looks like Robert meged that fix, so it's going to be in the next cosmic upload then we can SRU
[14:01] <andyrock> yeah I saw it
[14:01] <andyrock> I'll trak its status
[14:01] <Laney> is there a process for proposed cards in trello?
[14:02] <Laney> like if I add a card about tracking rls bug numbers
[14:02] <Laney> on there
[14:02] <Laney> will it just go into a black hole or will it be considered?
[14:03] <seb128> I don't think we have a formal process
[14:03] <seb128> but we do review that column and archive/wontfix/move things to backlog on semi regular basis
[14:03] <Laney> put differently how can I suggest something that's not a bug for someone that's not me to work on?
[14:04] <seb128> adding a cart to the proposed column sounds correct
[14:04] <kenvandine> +1
[14:04] <Laney> ok
[14:04] <Laney> I'm going to check next week to see if that moved ;-)
[14:04] <kenvandine> lol
[14:05] <seb128> haha
[14:06] <kenvandine> ok, all done?
[14:06] <seb128> I think so
[14:06] <kenvandine> great, i need coffee before my next meeting :)
[14:06] <kenvandine> #endmeeting
[14:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun 26 14:06:27 2018 UTC.
[14:06] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-06-26-13.30.moin.txt
[14:06] <Laney> oh I had a second thing
[14:06]  * Laney keeps it a secret forever
[14:07] <kenvandine> Laney, tell us!
[14:07] <seb128> lol
[14:07]  * seb128 wants to know as well
[14:08] <Laney> ok since you ask nicely
[14:08] <Laney> there's a new gtk 3 https://blog.gtk.org/2018/06/23/a-gtk-3-update/
[14:08] <Laney> planning to upload that unless there's a good reason not to
[14:09] <kenvandine> sounds good to me
[14:13]  * Laney nods gravely
[14:13] <seb128> nice
[14:13] <seb128> good move from GTK upstream as well imho
[14:14] <Laney> indeed
[14:14] <seb128> GTK4 is just not there yet
[14:14] <seb128> and GTK3 users are going to benefit from those changes meanwhile
[14:15] <seb128> k, on that postive note I'm going drop offline again, almost arrived :)
[14:15] <seb128> bbiab
[15:00] <Trevinho> Laney: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1778703
[15:02] <Trevinho> didrocks: anything left on g-s so that we can queue them together?
[15:05] <didrocks> Trevinho: things should be alright for g-s, the branch is pushed
[15:06] <didrocks> and package is in unapproved
[15:09] <Laney> yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[15:10] <Laney> 🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠
[15:10]  * didrocks wonders what starts whoopsie, thought I got it via the systemd service files, but no…
[15:10] <didrocks> as /usr/share/apport/apport-checkreports returns 1 :/
[15:11] <Laney> no?
[15:11] <Laney> it's WantedBy=multi-user.target so should be
[15:12] <didrocks> Laney: right, but it execs update-notifier-crash
[15:12] <didrocks> which is conditioned on if /usr/share/apport/apport-checkreports
[15:12] <didrocks> which returns 1
[15:12] <Laney> what does?
[15:13] <didrocks> open /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-notifier-crash
[15:13] <didrocks> look at what is the condition to start apport-gtk
[15:13] <Laney> ok I was looking at /lib/systemd/system/whoopsie.service
[15:14] <didrocks> this is for whoopsie, not apport-gtk?
[15:14] <Laney> right, you said "what starts whoopsie,"
[15:15] <didrocks> sorry, lost too much on whoopsie (it's whoopsie related in the end ;)), but yeah, I meant apport-gtk
[15:15] <Laney> it's update-notifier I think
[15:15] <Laney> should be systemd when that's working again...
[15:15] <didrocks> yeah, but update-notifier has this systemd unit
[15:15] <Laney> watching the paths
[15:15] <didrocks> so, it's not used?
[15:15] <Laney> not atm
[15:16] <didrocks> ah ok, the unit is incorrect btw, I wonder if I should fix that right now or not
[15:16] <didrocks> (doesn't take into condition if whoopsie is in autoreport mode or not)
[15:16]  * didrocks looks at update-notifier code itself then
[15:17] <didrocks> ok, so that part is for the notification
[15:17] <Laney> it sets an inotify on /var/crash
[15:17] <Laney> iirc anyway
[15:18] <didrocks> which should explain the delay on starting
[15:18] <didrocks> yeah, sounds like it
[15:18] <didrocks> I should start it in debug mode
[15:19] <didrocks> yep, it's update-notifier still
[15:20] <didrocks> I'll fix in cosmic the systemd unit still
[15:20] <didrocks> be to ready ;)
[15:24] <didrocks> to be*
[15:32] <Laney> 👌