| === guiver_d is now known as guiverc | ||
| rorqual | Hi all, pl | 05:14 |
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| rorqual | please, I've been hearing Ubunt has been developing in a different debian way in some aspects. I'd like to know in terms of percentage today, according Ubuntu Advanced Users and Developers: how much in terms of percentage, does remain Debian features and base in Ubuntu nowadays ? | 05:14 |
| rorqual | how much 'debian' still remains in 'ubuntu' in terms or percentage ? 20, 30, 40% debian in ubuntu ? more than it, less than it ? | 05:15 |
| tsimonq2 | rorqual: We don't have those statistics readily available. | 05:16 |
| guiverc | rorqual: i don't know where you've been listening; but to me ubuntu & debian are very close. on podcasts I've heard people say (eg. m.wimpy) they push changes to debian knowing they'll flow thru to ubuntu. | 05:16 |
| tsimonq2 | ^ | 05:17 |
| rorqual | hi tsimonq2, thanks for answering ! fine guiverc, thanks a lot for your analysis :) let me think just for a while about your answer.... | 05:17 |
| rorqual | guiverc, please, this passage wasn't so clear for me: "...they push changes to debian knowing they'll flow thru to ubuntu." | 05:18 |
| guiverc | rorqual: I also see canonical employees posting in planet.debian | 05:19 |
| tsimonq2 | rorqual: Ubuntu is roughly a fork of Debian | 05:19 |
| tsimonq2 | Packages autosync down to Ubuntu during the majority of the development cycle. | 05:20 |
| rorqual | I see | 05:22 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:23 |
| rorqual | good morning lotuspsychje | 05:23 |
| lotuspsychje | hey rorqual all good on your side? | 05:24 |
| rorqual | more or less, lotuspsychje... trying to understand major differences between debian and ubuntu, rather their similarities | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | !debian | 05:26 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu! | 05:26 |
| lotuspsychje | rorqual: as you in the ubuntu channels, we reccomend ubuntu | 05:27 |
| rorqual | fine lotuspsychje, thanks for telling ubot5 to answer me ! | 05:27 |
| rorqual | a great bot here | 05:27 |
| rorqual | I've been avoiding the idea of installing and testing ubuntu, but now, I realize Ubuntu is the commercial realization of a debian-based system, and one of the best business distribution options, in my opinion, outperforming Red Hat Enterprise Linux and SUSE. | 05:29 |
| guiverc | rorqual: you realize debian is a stream; sid -> testing -> stable... -- if you compare debian-stable with ubuntu there are more differences than other comparisons (18.10 with say debian buster-10) | 05:29 |
| guiverc | (i don't like my last statement; unclear-messy sorry) | 05:30 |
| rorqual | agree guiverc, I've been thinking about that in the same way you've mentioned now, when the question is debian stable vs ubuntu | 05:30 |
| rorqual | I liked it | 05:30 |
| rorqual | it was clear and fine | 05:30 |
| rorqual | my only serious doubt about Ubuntu Server is: how did Canonical made possible the use ZFS in Ubuntu.... for, if I'm not wrong, it doesn't run natively in kernel linux, such as ext4, xfs, btrfs... | 05:32 |
| rorqual | it's strange for Linux World the use of ZFS, but at the same time, a marvelous idea | 05:33 |
| guiverc | rorqual: i can't help with zfs sorry, but I recall reading lots about it over the last ~6-11 months | 05:54 |
| rorqual | you mean web sources, ok ? | 05:55 |
| guiverc | mostly thru rss feeds; gnome/kde/debian/ubuntu/fedora/opensuse/freebsd/...... | 05:56 |
| lotuspsychje | !zfs | rorqual | 05:56 |
| ubot5 | rorqual: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS | 05:56 |
| lotuspsychje | updated page | 05:56 |
| rorqual | fine guiverc, thanks ! thanks a lot for this Support, lotuspsychje ! | 05:58 |
| rorqual | how could I forget wiki in this case ? really thank you :) | 05:58 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:14 |
| rorqual | good morning ducasse | 06:15 |
| rorqual | bye all | 06:16 |
| rorqual | and thanks again for great support and attention ! | 06:16 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 08:31 |
| ducasse | hi lordievader - how are you today? | 08:42 |
| lordievader | Doing okay here. Quite busy. How are you, ducasse ? | 08:43 |
| ducasse | i'm ok, hoping it will be a little less scorching today | 08:43 |
| lordievader | Is it that hot over there? | 08:45 |
| ducasse | over 30° yesterday | 08:46 |
| ducasse | too much for me, us norwegians can't handle that | 08:47 |
| LtWorf | eh i love when it's nice weather in sweden | 08:47 |
| LtWorf | i'm sicilian, makes it bearable | 08:47 |
| ducasse | then you're probably built to take it :) | 08:52 |
| lordievader | Same here, 30C is too much. | 08:59 |
| lordievader | Just give me 20-ish and I'm happy. | 08:59 |
| ducasse | same here. or right now i'd prefer some rain, actually. | 09:00 |
| LtWorf | u just have to accept that sweating is a natural body function :D | 12:51 |
| oerheks_ | public transport on strike, 25'C, tomorrow payday .. jolly afternoon | 15:48 |
| blackflow | time to bike. | 15:48 |
| oerheks_ | yes, my dog likes that, https://www.dropbox.com/s/jmdxyqo3197gvp6/2018ride.jpg?dl=0 | 15:50 |
| daftykins | :D so cute | 15:50 |
| oerheks_ | bike is completely disassembled, and without paint, tomorrow it will be blasted and powdercoated | 15:51 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 15:51 |
| oerheks_ | then rebuild, €170 on nuts & bolds & tires | 15:51 |
| oerheks_ | brakes, peddles and such | 15:51 |
| daftykins | ok if i share that link to my other Dutch friend? :> | 15:52 |
| oerheks_ | sure | 15:52 |
| daftykins | thanks :D | 15:52 |
| daftykins | she's the one with the similar bike i believe | 15:52 |
| oerheks_ | oh there are a lot of brands, this is a 'FietsFabriek' | 15:52 |
| oerheks_ | good steel, good build, repairable.. | 15:53 |
| daftykins | that's what we like :) | 15:53 |
| oerheks_ | and .. in september i will get ... http://ebike-sales.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Bafang-bbs-1.jpg | 15:53 |
| oerheks_ | http://ebike-sales.co.uk/product/bafang-bbs01-250w-36v-mid-drive-conversion-kit | 15:54 |
| daftykins | :D | 15:54 |
| oerheks_ | mi money runs faster than i thought :-( | 15:54 |
| nacc | https://www.butchersandbicycles.com/features.html thinking about this one a lot lately | 15:55 |
| oerheks_ | oh carefull, those 3 wheels can tip over easily in a corner | 15:55 |
| nacc | it leans | 15:55 |
| oerheks_ | that is why i am back on 2 wheels.. | 15:55 |
| nacc | articulated trike, that is | 15:55 |
| nacc | but yeah, it can be a problem | 15:55 |
| oerheks_ | but oke, you can stand still on the road, without leaving the bike | 15:56 |
| oerheks_ | or step down | 15:56 |
| oerheks_ | surely handy with a dog/doggies or a lot of groceries | 15:56 |
| oerheks_ | .. or taking stuff home you find on the streets :-D | 15:57 |
| JimBuntu | I would probably have to make 2 trips for groceries... I would want an additional trailer to pull | 15:57 |
| nacc | heh | 15:58 |
| oerheks_ | wow, €4999 .... https://www.drbeykonline.nl/search?keywords=mk1-e | 15:58 |
| nacc | yeah it's very expensive | 15:59 |
| oerheks_ | more expensive than Urban Arrow ( the nicest one) | 15:59 |
| nacc | eah they are a direct competitor | 15:59 |
| nacc | we are also looking at the UA | 15:59 |
| oerheks_ | they all have a chip now, i am putting one in too | 16:00 |
| daftykins | you guys got me thinking so i finally phoned up my local bike shop and have reserved a 185mm rotor for my full suspension Specialized :) | 16:00 |
| oerheks_ | good :-) | 16:00 |
| daftykins | wanna get that beauty back up and running well, front brake isn't too great right now | 16:01 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 16:51 |
| lotuspsychje | !info shotwell | 16:56 |
| ubot5 | shotwell (source: shotwell): digital photo organizer. In component main, is extra. Version 0.28.2-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 1805 kB, installed size 7284 kB | 16:56 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there Bashing-om | 17:23 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: main: big idling ZZzzzZZ | 17:23 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Sure not like those "good ole days" . I find something else to keep me occupied . | 17:25 |
| lotuspsychje | soon Bashing-om .1 !! | 17:25 |
| oerheks_ | :-) | 17:25 |
| === oerheks_ is now known as oerheks | ||
| Bashing-om | Naw .. 18.04.1 will also be smooth ... Maybe some more Window refugees to teach :P | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: https://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-is-used-all-over-the-world-reveal-initial-ubuntu-18-04-desktop-metrics-521685.shtml | 17:29 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Interesting to say the least .. reported ^ in this weeks newsletter :) | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | get ready for the masses | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | oerheks is ready to see .1 iso's... | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | *seed | 17:31 |
| pauljw | hi everyone | 18:44 |
| oerheks | hi pauljw | 18:46 |
| pauljw | hi oerheks :) | 18:50 |
| nacc | adding another to /ignore oerheks ... | 21:33 |
| oerheks | sorry for beiing rude | 21:36 |
| nacc | oerheks: i don't think you were rude to them | 21:36 |
| oerheks | oh i didn't hit enter "i undertand you didn't read the topic, so drop your attitude" | 21:36 |
| oerheks | :-D | 21:36 |
| nacc | they seemed to be a bit touchy to me, i had not reason to help them | 21:36 |
| oerheks | well, i try to clear things up, that worked, but he shouldn't say elementary | 21:36 |
| oerheks | really, some act like they have no mouse & access to bing | 21:37 |
| nacc | yeah it's a bit confusing; oh wel | 21:38 |
| oerheks | vbox performance will be great on zfs, i read | 21:38 |
| oerheks | ubumoi | 21:46 |
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