[00:02] <sonicwind> I'm using a new (used) laptop for first time. Normally, in indicator-multiload, you can put your mouse over the app icon at top of the screen and adjust what monitored resources you see there by scrolling the mouse wheel while over it. How do I do that on a ThinkPad?
[00:03] <sonicwind> nevermind... just realized this is probably off-topic here... gotta find a general hardware channel
[00:03] <BaKKaR> Can someone help me with my Nvidia please, its is integrated Nvidia, it was working fine and then suddenly stopped after switching to Intel graphics. I have tried like 5 drivers 396 - 380 - 340 all the same. Models when doing (lsmod |grep nvidia) are loaded but still cannot open Nvidia settings and cannot do switch.
[00:29] <svip> I am doing a do-release-upgrade, but I cannot access my Xorg tty anymore, or rather, XFCE won't load windows.
[00:29] <svip> So I cannot see how it is going.
[00:29] <svip> But I can see in htop that I have a 100% CPU usage across my 4 cores.
[00:31] <svip> Doing a sudo apt-command indicates that it is still locked.  Is there a way I can check whether it is safe enough to reboot?
[00:31] <nacc> svip: it's not, if your cpus are busy
[00:31] <nacc> svip: did you see in top/htop *what* is using your cores?
[00:31] <svip> nacc: But it's mostly XFCE-programs that are taking CPU time.
[00:31] <nacc> svip: also from what to what were you upgrading?
[00:31] <svip> Such as xfce4-panel, xfce4-terminal, etc. and Xorg.
[00:32] <svip> nacc: From 16.04 to 18.04 LTS.
[00:32] <nacc> svip: that's not currently supported
[00:32] <nacc> svip: dunno if it's well-tested yet by the xubuntu folks
[00:33] <svip> nacc: Yeah, but my laptop shouldn't behave like this, even if the upgrade isn't supported.
[00:35] <nacc> svip: well, dunno if that's accurate
[00:35] <nacc> svip: the upgrade process itself may be broken and doing something funky
[00:36] <svip> nacc: It seems more like Xorg/XFCE is actually hogging all the resources.  The dpkg-process seems to be sleeping.
[00:36] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: In replacing the driver .. did you remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf config file ? and is secure boot disabled ?
[00:37] <svip> Why should nm-applet or xfce-session run at 100%?
[00:38] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i did not try that. However, i have run Nvidia-xconfg which then replaced - supposedly - the xorg-.conf in the process
[00:40] <easzero> i have got a problem. If i start a browser, firefox or chromium  e.g, then it crashes immediately after seconds I have already tried some cleaning commands in the terminal. Error remains
[00:41] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: I just do not have faith in Nvidia-xconfg after the fact on a new install . I feel the better if the file is built in the install process .  personal feeling is all . EFI machine where secure boot must be disabled ?
[00:41] <nacc> svip: possibly because they are being replaced, etc.
[00:42] <nacc> svip: in any case, you could try rebooting whenever you want, but it seems likely you'll need to repair your system manually
[00:42] <easzero> any ideas?
[00:42] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i am using normal boot, UEFI is off/disabled
[00:43] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: r u suggesting to purge nvidia all and then removing the xorg.config file , then reboot and reinstall the drivers again .. is that the right sequence?
[00:43] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: EFI will not discern how you are booting - if enabled it will do it's job to not allow 3rd party software .
[00:44] <BaKKaR> i can double check th BIOS, but the UEFI is OFF .. and i dont have the UEFI drive .. all that removed already.
[00:45] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: were me and what I do .. is make sute the system is fullt ipdated and allow the system to choose the driver it thinks best to install ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[00:45] <BaKKaR> i eant no UEFI partition in my HDD setup and it is disabled
[00:46] <Bashing-om> sure*
[00:47] <svip> nacc: OK.  But it should be possible to repair?
[00:47] <svip> Even if manually.
[00:48] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om:  ok it is downloadning now, should i remove all nvidia drivers i have now already before it continues?
[00:49] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: There can be only one ! I always remove the bad driver before getting the replacement .
[00:50] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: yeah, i have noticed the command u suggested is removing the old one already
[00:50] <BaKKaR> i am going to go ahead and try
[00:51] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: :) will not hurt to try .
[00:51] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: :)
[00:51]  * BaKKaR crossing his fingers
[00:52] <nacc> svip: in theory, yes
[00:57] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om:  i have done and rebooted now .. should i try the Nvidia-xconfig?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: No, that file should have been built .. you can check for /etc/X11/Xorg.conf .
[00:59] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: What releas is this .. as seems in 18.04 that file has moved ???
[00:59] <Bashing-om> release*
[00:59] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i could find it in /etc/x11/xorg.config
[00:59] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: what should i look for there?
[01:00] <oerheks> X11 .. else you get an empty file
[01:00] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: looks sane ? with entries for both nvidia and Intel in that config file ?
[01:00] <oerheks> and config .. > conf
[01:00] <BaKKaR> oerheks: thx
[01:01] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i could see entries for both yes, intel and Nvidia. Also in the X11 folder i could find another file called xorg.config.nvidia....
[01:03] <gambl0r3> hello? i cant mount my sd card. im geting an error message
[01:03] <gambl0r3> Error mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 at /media/ricky/CC23-17B3: Command-line `mount -t "exfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,namecase=0,errors=remount-ro,umask=0077" "/dev/mmcblk0p1" "/media/ricky/CC23-17B3"' exited with non-zero exit status 2:
[01:03] <gambl0r3> stdout: `FUSE exfat 1.0.1
[01:03] <gambl0r3> '
[01:03] <gambl0r3> stderr: `BUG: failed to read 512 bytes from file at 0.
[01:03] <gambl0r3> i never had problems in the past
[01:04] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: lsmod does not show any loaded nvidia modules now .. it was before :-/
[01:04] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Do not know about xorg.config.nvidia - have never seen it .. can not see though that it will affect Xorg.conf .
[01:05] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: no worries, it has the same entries the xconfig has .. so i think xorg.conf is built alright
[01:05] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Let's see what is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[01:06] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: nvidia-396 and opencl-396
[01:07] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: pastebin ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' . See what the manager has to relate .
[01:08] <RoadRunner> under 18.04, is Flash player plugin installed in Firefox by default?
[01:10] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/vcREVb6i .. thank you
[01:12] <oerheks> RoadRunner, no. flash is part of the restricted extras package
[01:13] <svip> nacc: It went A-OK!
[01:13] <svip> My system is now running smoothly again and is upgraded.
[01:13] <RoadRunner> oerheks: in that case, is there an open source equivalent that allows to view flash content like video's, etc?
[01:14] <oerheks> standard html5 in firefox/chrome should work, for most flash content
[01:14] <oerheks> but flash is dead. hurray
[01:16] <gambl0r3> anyone able to help?
[01:17] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Still reading -- nut we got to adress this " Is nvidia blacklisted? yes" .
[01:17] <Bashing-om> but*
[01:17] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: yes i was googling that now :)
[01:19] <RoadRunner> oerheks: what about that flash content that isn't read by standard html5, what should I get for that?
[01:22] <andres_> %n =Andres
[01:27] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Well, we know we have isues to overcome :) in small steps let's begin with the blacklisting . pastebin ' ls -al /etc/modprobe.d/ ' and ' cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ' .
[01:35] <RoadRunner> so is there an open source player capable of playing that type of flash content that standard html5 in firefox can't handle?
[01:38] <Chicken_Wrap> RoadRunner: You mean like Pepper Flash?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: This : ' apt show adobe-flashplugin ' ?
[01:43] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i am really gratefull for your patiance :) :)
[01:44] <svip> Is Wayland ready for Xubuntu/XFCE?
[01:45] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i have checked the directory and it does not contain that *.old-dpkg mentioned on some online forum
[01:45] <WoC> Does Wayland have any benefits ?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Hey ,, I too am in that learning process ! .. each and every one of us . So where are we ? I be awaitin g to lkook at what is blacklisted .
[01:46] <BaKKaR> sure .. in a second
[01:46] <guiverc> WoC, yep wayland has benefits (it wouldn't exist otherwise), but ....  refer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland maybe
[01:46] <Bashing-om> WoC: It is what will be .. I find it smoother and faster than X11 - there are many apps that are not to this time ported over .
[01:47] <Bashing-om> svip: No, xfce will not be a part of wayland .
[01:47] <WoC> just that it seems to be a very long list of things not working with it
[01:48] <svip> Bashing-om: OK, thank you.
[01:48] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/p5eugYE1
[01:48] <WoC> Bashing-om, amd graphics ?
[01:50] <Bashing-om> WoC: I run wayland and with the nouveau driver no isues .. there is a lot of effort in nvidia's 396 driver to support wayland .
[01:51] <WoC> Bashing-om, not an option for me, i use OpenCL
[01:51] <WoC> but ty
[01:53] <RoadRunner> Chicken_Wrap: Bashing-om: under 16.04 my Firefox has a plugin called Shockwave Flash and everything works fine (I am guessing it's a adobe-flash one - not sure). Don't remember how I isntalled it either...
[01:55] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: We do have our work cut out for us, huh ? .. OK .. seems BumbleBee is still a factor . depreciated in favor of nvidia-prime . ' sudo apt purge bumble* ' .... and does this file exist - /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf - ?
[01:55] <Chicken_Wrap> RoadRunner: They’re not the same.
[01:56] <RoadRunner> Chicken_Wrap: so what should I go with under 18.04 to have rock solid compatibility?
[01:57] <Chicken_Wrap> RoadRunner: I find just installing Pepper Flash works well enough. Never really had problems with it, but I don’t use Flash much anyway. Just the occasional video off a shitty web player and maybe a game once in a blue moon.
[01:57] <guiverc> svip, maybe of interest (xfce & wayland) .. https://www.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/73gihm/are_there_any_plans_for_xfce_on_wayland/
[01:59] <RoadRunner> Chicken_Wrap: so is Pepper Flash a plugin for Firefox like Shockwave Flash?
[01:59] <svip> guiverc: Thank you.
[02:00] <Chicken_Wrap> You installthe package and that’s about it.
[02:07] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om:  i have installed prime now
[02:07] <RoadRunner> what's the diff btw adobe-flashplugin and Shockwave Flash plugin?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: ' cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[02:08] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: And we start hunting for why nvidia is blacklisted .
[02:09] <Chicken_Wrap> Shockwave is for .swf
[02:10] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/p5eugYE1 i have looked into it .. nothing mentioned about nvidia
[02:13] <bobbieboy> Hello. 8-)
[02:13] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om:  i found this nvidia file in the modprobe.d and has some nvdia driver and mdes blackisted tho https://pastebin.com/SeaDvBXf
[02:13] <Chicken_Wrap> hi
[02:16] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Agreed, the blacklisting is not there- oh boy .. where to look ?  .. does this file still exist ' /etc/modprobe.d/bumblebee.conf ' ?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: those ^ blacklistings are acceptable .
[02:19] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: hmmmm i am skimming through the other modprobe.d files .. bumblebee is not there
[02:20] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf. ?
[02:20] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: i am thinking .. in the nvidia version before this one, nvidia-48x the lsmod could show nvidia mods loaded .. but not this one .. could it be a driver not fitting?
[02:21] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: no bumbelbee directory there .. we have just removed the package
[02:21] <BaKKaR> :-/
[02:22] <BaKKaR> we have switched from bumbel to prime
[02:24] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: We know that the driver did not build . as it is blacklisted - somewhere . There *May* be other reasons why the driver did not build . I would also like to see the kernel's boot line ' cat /proc/cmdline ' .
[02:26] <BaKKaR> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-45-generic root=UUID=e2558203-8cf7-43b0-adca-e88ad8c027ad ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[02:29] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: What i am thinking is that 396 is not "yet" fitting for my graphics nvidia m840. So, perhaps i need to o backwards to older drivers?
[02:29] <BaKKaR> correct me pls
[02:31] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: will only take a tic to verify .. pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - and i cross reference the card .
[02:34] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om:  YG sir https://pastebin.com/dBJqb5CC
[02:36] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: nvidia do recommend the 390 driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/134859/en-us .
[02:37] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: uhaa .. let me downgrade then, right?
[02:38] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Wont hurt to try :) .. I still advocate to ' sudo apt purge nvidia ; sudo rm /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' .
[02:40] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: shoud i reboot after that before new install?
[02:40] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Might be good too to see what ' sudo apt autoremove ' will remove .
[02:41] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: will try now all that .. thank u ... will be back in a gif
[02:41] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: No, I can see no point in rebooting after the purge . but to reboot after the install yes, for the driver to take effect .
[02:41] <BaKKaR> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'nvidia.log'
[02:41] <BaKKaR> O_o
[02:42] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Umphhh .. pastebin so I get the full context .
[02:43] <BaKKaR> i was trying to install .. i tried CTRL-C t stop the download and tried to purge first when  i got this error
[02:43] <BaKKaR> one min .. i should not bother u with this small one
[02:44] <BaKKaR> :)
[02:49] <Mibix> lol so i accidentally rsynced to a /mnt/ location that i hadnt mounted yet
[02:49] <Mibix> i wonder where the files went :o
[02:49] <mous> Mibix: nice
[02:50] <mous> Mibix: somewhere in /mnt I bet :)
[02:50] <sistemas_> hi
[02:51] <Mibix> weird it like made a directory there but i cant delete it
[02:51] <Mibix> or umount it :o
[02:58] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: thank you for waiting .. so i have removed "pured' the nvidia and when tried to remove xorg.conf it was not there after removing nvidia
[02:58] <BaKKaR> reboted now .. anything to check before getting the new driver install?
[02:59] <Biessie> this isnt exactly ubuntu related (however i am using ubuntu 18.04) but if my port forwarding is all setup properly and i can view my webserver via LAN but WAN it doesnt respond does it mean my ISP blocked my port? even though it worked yesterday and no settings have changed?
[03:00] <TimeDoctor> Biessie: have you checked your firewall logs?
[03:01] <Biessie> TimeDoctor : im newb to *nix so no
[03:01] <Biessie> i dont think i have a firewall enabled TBH on my box
[03:01] <TimeDoctor> Biessie: and how are you accessing it from the WAN? by your public ip address?
[03:01] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Nope - install and we see what is :P
[03:02] <Biessie> TimeDoctor : i tried both IP address as well as my noip dynamic dns
[03:02] <Biessie> i have the DUC client installed
[03:02] <Mibix> lol so wait if i copy something to /mnt/whatever and whatever isnt mounted it just creates a directory there?
[03:02] <Mibix> would they copy to my OS's drive then?
[03:03]  * BaKKaR rubbing the dice now Bashing-om and baming the KDE for it. :)
[03:03] <Gobo708> I am trying to change network adapter config on ubuntu 18.04, and notice the message in /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml that says changes wil not persist
[03:03] <Gobo708> Where is the correct place to configure your network static settings now?
[03:03] <TimeDoctor> Mibix: yes if you don't have something mounted it'll copy to the local drive
[03:06] <Gobo708> If I add something like 01-netcfg.yaml with a new network config, do I need to delete 50-Cloud-init.yml?
[03:07] <Biessie> TimeDoctor : You would think my ISP blocked my port as of yesterday?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> Gobo708: See if: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-set-dns-nameservers-in-ubuntu-server-18-04/ sheds some light .
[03:09] <Gobo708> Bashing-om, Thank you!
[03:10] <Bashing-om> Gobo708: Best I recall there is a see too link at the bottom of the article .
[03:12] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: how i can eve thank you :)
[03:12] <BaKKaR> *ever
[03:12] <BaKKaR> it was a driver version issue :(
[03:12] <BaKKaR> tried them all and it was 390 :) :)
[03:13] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: one last favour plz, how i can lock it so it wont upgrade in future to 396 ?
[03:19] <Chicken_Wrap> BaKKaR: Is it a package?
[03:19] <BaKKaR> Chicken_Wrap: yes, i want to lock the nvidia-390 and similar nvidia driver reated packages not to upgrade
[03:19] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: :) I have never locked the proprietary driver ,, no idea ,, but to be honest I bet it was something blocking the install (BumbleBee residue ??) . I would not worry over an update .
[03:19] <BaKKaR> *related
[03:21] <Chicken_Wrap> sudo apt-mark hold <package-name>
[03:21] <Chicken_Wrap> @BaKKaR
[03:21] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: thank you so much
[03:21] <BaKKaR> Chicken_Wrap: thank you yummy
[03:22] <Chicken_Wrap> sudo apt-mark unhold <package-name> to reverse
[03:22] <Chicken_Wrap> np
[03:22] <Bashing-om> BaKKaR: Glad2help ,, we are all in this together .
[03:28] <BaKKaR> Bashing-om: :)
[03:45] <Cacao7w7> Shit
[03:45] <Cacao7w7> :c
[03:45] <manymous> salam
[03:46] <req> what is the bash expression to check if the process is running
[03:47] <Gobo708> ps - aux | grep proces
[03:47] <Gobo708> ps -aux | grep proces
[04:10] <xboxown> heheh
[04:10] <xboxown> Hello?
[04:10] <xboxown> Can I say...I LOOOOVVEEE UBUNTU so much! It really is the best OS as an alternative over Windows
[04:11] <xboxown> It is like Mac for PC in a sense.
[04:11] <xboxown> I love how it looks, I love how it feels, I love the easy and usage of it.
[04:11] <xboxown> My favorite version of Ubuntu is 18.04
[04:14] <xboxown> I did not think there is literally 1627 people here O_o
[04:14] <the_seeker> Hey! I'd like to know if it is possible to boot windows using VistualBox. Indeed, I have windows already installed, but not using it in dual-boot mode. I want to use the alreay Installed windows on internal harddrives and use it in Ubuntu 18.04???
[04:14] <xboxown> OH
[04:15] <cfhowlett> of course, the_seeker
[04:15] <xboxown> But is it recommended though?
[04:15] <hggdh> the_seeker: I do not know about VBox, but I know it can be done with KVM (I have one Windows 10 Pro KVM instance)
[04:15] <xboxown> With virtual box you are limiting windows with inferior hardware emulator
[04:15] <xboxown> You cannot play modern 3D games etc with using it in virtual box
[04:16] <cfhowlett> vbox doesn't run exactly the same as an actual installation, e.g. graphics.  if your needs are modest and sparing, I'd say do it.
[04:16] <xboxown> right
[04:16] <xboxown> if he wants it for application and business sure
[04:16] <xboxown> but for gaming
[04:16] <xboxown> nope
[04:16] <cfhowlett> exactomundo!
[04:16] <xboxown> :D
[04:16] <hggdh> xboxown: might be true, but I use mine professionally, not for games.
[04:16] <xboxown> AH
[04:16] <xboxown> then it works well for you hggdh :D
[04:17] <xboxown> This ubuntu laptop I am using right now is the most inferior hardware
[04:17] <cfhowlett> I boot windows increasingly rarely.  I think once during 2017 and not yet in 2018
[04:17] <blackpawn> hello :)
[04:17] <xboxown> Ubuntu is an awesome OS
[04:17] <xboxown> there is no denying it.
[04:17] <cfhowlett> tis true!
[04:17] <xboxown> I just love how it feels and looks
[04:18] <xboxown> seriously
[04:18] <blackpawn> i'm updating from ubuntu 14 to 18... in 14 i used sudo start proxyServer for example and had files in /etc/init/proxyServer.conf... start and /etc/init don't seem to be in ubuntu 18?
[04:18] <cfhowlett> !fcm | xboxown for inspiration, please read
[04:18] <xboxown> OH
[04:18] <xboxown> magazine about ubuntu?
[04:18] <the_seeker> Ok! H    Ok. How can I use KVM to loaad a bootable Windowz7 drive ; are there tutorial, howto's ; I have difficulties to find the proper seach keywords
[04:18] <cfhowlett> blackpawn, #ubuntu-server channel question??
[04:18] <xboxown> yeah by all means! I am book marking it
[04:19] <blackpawn> hmm ok i try there
[04:19] <cfhowlett> the_seeker, yep.  see the kvm manual for instructions
[04:19] <hggdh> the_seeker: all you need to do is create a new instance, set the Windows ISO as boot device, and start the instance
[04:21] <the_seeker> Just to make sure that I express myself good enough. I wont load an image, but an already installed windows7 on hard disk. I want to load windows in ubuntu from botable hard drive
[04:21] <xboxown> Do you know what would be super cool?
[04:22] <xboxown> To have a CPU designed for Ubuntu and an actual Ubuntu exclusive laptop hahah
[04:22] <xboxown> Just a though O_O
[04:22] <xboxown> * thought
[04:24] <the_seeker> Just to make sure that I express myself good enough. I wont load an image, but an already installed windows7 on hard disk. I want to load windows in ubuntu from botable hard drive
[04:25] <the_seeker> Hey! I'd like to know if it is possible to boot windows using VistualBox. Indeed, I have windows already installed, but not using it in dual-boot mode. I want to use the alreay Installed windows on internal harddrives and use it in Ubuntu 18.04???
[04:26] <the_seeker> ust to make sure that I express myself good enough. I wont load an image, but an already installed windows7 on hard disk. I want to load windows in ubuntu from botable hard drive
[04:26] <krytarik> the_seeker: Can you extend a little more patience?
[04:27] <the_seeker> yes, of course
[04:28] <krytarik> And that strikes me as a #vbox question really.
[04:29] <xboxown> talk to you guys later
[04:30] <the_seeker> krytarik most probably.
[04:31] <krytarik> That is, I'm indicating you should rather ask this in the #vbox channel.
[04:36] <the_seeker> I'm actually asking to multiple channels :)
[04:37] <the_seeker> Including #VBOX
[04:37] <seeker> hi all
[04:38] <Guest2701> hello
[04:40] <Guest2701> I'm using an audio device plugged into a system with ubuntu and device is being recognized by alsa utilities
[04:41] <Guest2701> But, I'm getting an unexpected error while trying to use it with alsa utilities .
[04:42] <Guest2701> Anybody alive here ?
[04:42] <the_seeker> krytarik is
[04:54] <Guest2701> Hello
[04:55] <krytarik> Guest2701: Giving out any more details might help anyone to assist you.
[04:55] <Tecan-> anyone else notice xorg running 20-30% cpu on ubuntu 18.04 ?
[04:56] <Tecan-> my laptop fan noise is annoying
[04:57] <Guest2701> It is an audio recording device 8 channel and alsa detected it on "arecord -L"
[04:58] <Guest2701> But when trying to record from it , alsa says "Unable to install hw_params"
[05:02] <rorqual> Hi all, I've been hearing Ubunt has been developing in a different debian way in some aspects. I'd like to know in terms of percentage today, according Ubuntu Advanced Users and Developers: how much in terms of percentage, does remain Debian features and base in Ubuntu nowadays ?
[05:03] <rorqual> how much 'debian' still remains in 'ubuntu' in terms or percentage ? 20, 30, 40% debian in ubuntu ? more than it, less than it ?
[05:05] <guiverc> rorqual: this is a Ubuntu Support room; I don't see a support question in what you asked.  #ubuntu-discuss may be a more room
[05:07] <guiverc> s/more room/more appropriate/
[05:13] <rorqual> hi guiverc, thanks for answering and sorry for mistake here. In fact, you are right, this is an off-topic question, if compared to a regular technical question related to ubuntu linux support
[05:13] <rorqual> thanks for showing me #ubuntu-discuss
[05:16] <rorqual> now, a  technical question, guiverc: is that possible I using ZFS in Ubuntu natively, running in the linux kernel directly, withou dkms module use need ?
[05:23] <guiverc> rorqual: you should avoid directing questions to a person, I can't answer zfs questions, and others may now overlook your question because it mentions me..
[05:24] <rorqual> yes, guiverc, you are right again, thank you for warning !
[05:27] <TabMasher> Does anyone know of a good utility for optimizing the filling of DVD/BluRay disks?  Like, being able to give it a target capacity size, and having it sort directories of media optimally for that capacity size for ubuntu?
[05:28] <furkan> i installed 18.04 on a new machine (i was previously using 16.04), and have a question about the Gnome 3 dock: with Unity when you clicked on an icon on the dock, it used to tile all the open windows for just that app. Gnome 3 only shows small thumbnails when you click an app icon, but the activities screen tiles all the open windows - is there a way to make it tile windows per application type, instead of
[05:28] <furkan> tiling all windows from all apps?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> furkan: you can adjust this from dconf-editor i think
[05:31] <furkan> TabMasher: i can't answer your question directly, but from a terminal if you navigate to the parent directory where your media is stored, type "du -hd1" and it'll tell you how big each child directory is
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> furkan: dconf-editor for bionic has also improved nicely
[05:32] <furkan> lotuspsychje: thanks for the lead, will see if i can find a relevant setting
[05:33] <TabMasher> furkan: I have a windows app called BTTB (Burn to the brim) that does that for over a decade now, but I'm astounded that such a utility has escaped the linux comminity.
[05:34] <TabMasher> furkan: I'll give your command like a shot though.  Thank you.
[05:34] <TabMasher> command line*
[05:37] <cupcake90> Can anyone help me out I am using ubuntu 16.04 trying to connect to ldap searver https://pastebin.com/sxzHUSjG
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> furkan: think it might be in a 'shell' setting, not sure anymore
[05:40] <furkan> TabMasher: turns out it hasn't escaped the linux community, check this out ;) https://linux.die.net/man/1/dirsplit
[05:41] <furkan> TabMasher: see here for a more detailed example https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/splits-directory-into-multiple-with-equal-size-for-iso-burning-purpose.html
[05:42] <TabMasher> furkan: Nicely done! I wasn't able to find it.  I wonder if it will optimize files for a given number of disks.
[05:45] <prince> hi]
[05:45] <prince> anyone
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[05:51] <Guest87691> how do i identify my nickname
[05:51] <Guest87691> ???
[05:51] <acos> Not sure
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !register | Guest87691
[05:52] <Guest87691> thanks ubottu
[05:59] <Pikachihuahua> test
[05:59] <Feldegast> hi
[05:59] <Pikachihuahua> yes it works
[05:59] <Pikachihuahua> hello
[06:00] <rorqual> hello Pikachihuahua
[06:00] <Pikachihuahua> name some good channels
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Pikachihuahua
[06:08] <Pikachihuahua> thanks
[06:21] <Guest2701> My sound card is detected by alsa driver but no pactl
[06:22] <Guest2701> Is there anyone in ubuntu
[06:22] <Guest2701> *in ubuntu
[06:22] <Guest2701> is there anyone who can reason please >
[06:22] <Guest2701> * ?
[06:22] <hecksagonheck> im
[06:23] <hecksagonheck> how to look all group ??
[06:23] <guiverc> Guest2701: don't spam the channel; people are here but do other things, they'll answer when & if they can
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Guest2701 start here
[06:36] <hecksagonheck> 😁😁😁
[06:36] <hecksagonheck> 👍👍
[06:37] <hecksagonheck> ✈✈
[06:37] <hecksagonheck> ❌
[06:37] <ducasse> hecksagonheck: please stop that
[06:37] <hecksagonheck> okk..
[07:16] <purpleunicorn> hey blackflow you here
[07:17] <purpleunicorn> anyone else here
[07:22] <Jonta> Yes
[07:25] <purpleunicorn> do you know how to use UNetbootin
[07:25] <purpleunicorn> im trying to creating a bootable drive for ubuntu Jonta
[07:26] <purpleunicorn> Jonta: should i use bootable drive maker instead?
[07:28] <ducasse> don't use unetbootin, it's known to have problems. i'd just use dd or plain old cp.
[07:28] <purpleunicorn> ok
[07:28] <ducasse> if you want a gui, etcher is supposed to work well
[07:36] <Edisto> in 4.1 is there a way to lock the reference image to viewport?
[07:41] <purpleunicorn> ducasse: for some reason im trying to partition my ssd and when i click partition it stalls and then it randomly quits on me. What do you think could be the problem?
[07:42] <Edisto> oops wrong chan =D
[07:43] <ducasse> purpleunicorn: i don't know, can you try booting in 'try ubuntu' mode and partition with for example gparted?
[07:44] <purpleunicorn> idk maybe but idk how to do that
[07:44] <purpleunicorn> do you think its because my ssd has no storage. I mean it sayes 251gb and its all blue so i think i have no space
[07:46] <EriC^^> take a screenshot
[07:46] <purpleunicorn> arlight
[07:46] <purpleunicorn> alright*
[07:47] <purpleunicorn> EriC^^: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JxKU6BYc/Screen%20Shot%202018-06-26%20at%203.47.08%20AM.png
[07:49] <EriC^^> looks like its full
[07:49] <EriC^^> you want to erase it all and put ubuntu on it?
[07:51] <purpleunicorn> i dont even know why its full. i lost a lot of files and such a year ago and haven't had that much stuff on it since. I also have an external hard drive so maybe i could dump most of the stuff thats on that on my hard drive. I just wanted to partition twice and make one for linux and ubuntu to make the bootable flash drive
[07:52] <purpleunicorn> EriC^^: i used vbox for ubuntu and gave me a lot of problems which is why i wanted to do this instead
[07:54] <EriC^^> i see
[07:55] <purpleunicorn> EriC^^: how would i be able to free up the space for the SSD
[07:56] <ducasse> if this is on a mac you should probably shrink the partition from mac os
[07:57] <EriC^^> purpleunicorn: you can copy all the stuff to your external one and then repartition it from scratch, or you can shrink it like ducasse said and leave some of the stuff on it
[07:58] <purpleunicorn> EriC^^: which is better?
[07:58] <purpleunicorn> how do i shrink it exactly? mac os ssd has 138.68gb of free space
[07:59] <EriC^^> purpleunicorn: take a look here http://osxdaily.com/2009/11/20/resize-partitions-in-mac-os-x-with-disk-utility/
[08:03] <purpleunicorn> EriC^^: thanks
[08:03] <EriC^^> yw
[08:05] <purpleunicorn> for some reason when i put my external hard drive in time machine doesnt tell me if its backing up or even in progress
[08:07] <ducasse> we don't support mac os, so we can't help with that
[08:07] <TabMasher> furkan: https://sourceforge.net/projects/filesfitter/
[08:08] <purpleunicorn> ok
[08:10] <purpleunicorn> ducasse: what do i do if the volume has space but the external physical disk doesnt? what does that mean?
[08:11] <ducasse> purpleunicorn: probably that there is space for more files, but no unallocated space for new partitions
[08:12] <purpleunicorn> okay
[08:19] <anibic> Hi, I am back with a pertinent question. Why the GNOME network manager does not have a option to create a DSL connection.  "sudo pppoeconf" does not work
[08:20] <purpleunicorn> i still don't get why i can't partition mine. The guy in the video is able to partition his even though its pretty full like mine...
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | purpleunicorn start here
[08:24] <purpleunicorn> apparently i can't partition because of my macbook. its an apfs version and sometimes these types of macs don't let you partition...idk
[08:26] <rush> maybe u need t opartition it in a different way
[08:26] <rush> dunno
[08:26] <rush> i use partition software when possible
[08:26] <rush> but dunno about mac
[08:27] <anibic> pppoeconf does not work always and I have to run the command "pon dsl-provider" to authenticate with my isp. My connection sometimes drops and remains so for 30 mins. Although I have  check marked " Automatically connect to this network when available" still it fails to autheticate when my link comes back I remain disconnected for the entire night and my downloads get affected.
[08:29] <purpleunicorn> i hate how ubuntu and mac's are incompatible
[08:29] <purpleunicorn> smh
[08:32] <rush> i am here
[08:32] <rush> well. dont expect much help in here. i think ubuntu is he best linux system. but some people in here a real snobs
[08:34] <purpleunicorn> yeah i can tell rush
[08:35] <rush> reminds me assetto corsa, fantistic game, real snob community
[08:35] <rush> puppy linux is probably harder to ge tthings installed on than ubuntu, but i find it less painful, cos the community are nice
[08:35] <purpleunicorn> rush: lol
[08:35] <rush> this lot in here.. i dont know
[08:35] <purpleunicorn> yeah idk either
[08:36] <purpleunicorn> someone on #macosx is telling me not to put ubuntu on mac without vm because its not good for macs or some shit
[08:37] <kiriuha> hello
[08:37] <kiriuha> ?
[08:37] <rush> maybe true.  i had to use vm in ubuntu everytime i wanted to try it out a few years back..  but now it finnaly seems good enuff to use standalone.. in pc
[08:37] <rush> maybe mac not quite there yet
[08:37] <rush> hi kiri
[08:38] <rush> richard guest
[08:39] <purpleunicorn> rush: they're never there when it comes to making other systems compatible with macs
[08:39] <rush> i hear you..   yes linux is free, but it has a tiny userbase for a reason.   its too hard to do stuff basically  and terminal ect is not 'so easy my gran can do it' despite what the fanboys tell you
[08:40] <rush> still, ubnuntu is better theses days as i say.. but not perfect
[08:40] <rush> super os when it works and doe swat u want, super
[08:41] <purpleunicorn> yeah
[08:43] <TabMasher> furkan: Thank you again for the info.  Much appreciated.
[08:43] <rush> anyone know how to clone my sytem?
[08:43] <rush> im running o fa usb stick
[08:43] <rush> and have a space on my hdd in this computer i  want to use
[08:44] <rush> tried clonezilla, couldint get it to work
[08:47] <rush> yea.. thought so
[08:49] <ducasse> just use dd?
[08:51] <ducasse> 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=output.img bs=4m' to read to image, and 'sudo dd if=output.img of=/dev/sdb bs=4m' to write
[08:51] <ducasse> where sdb is the usb device node
[08:53] <adac> If I install "smartmontools" and then do sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda does then this always show the actual status?
[08:55] <rush> ducasse, i dont know what you mean
[08:55] <rush> remember most people here who ask questions are not terminal lterate
[08:55] <rush> i need step by step guide
[08:55] <rush> i have a hadd ready in this system, that i want the usb system backed up on to
[08:56] <rush> my hdd also has a windows 10 on it, i just made a 10gb fat 32 partition for this ubuntu system file, but dont want to format wthe whole hdd while doing so
[08:57] <ducasse> the gnome disk utility can both make and write images afaik, maybe that's easier for you
[08:57] <rush> i have no idea again
[08:57] <Row> Hello There!
[08:57] <rush> please can u tell me how
[08:59] <ducasse> i don't use it myself, but try this - https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-disk-images-using-gnome-disk/
[08:59] <rush> is ubuntu beaver running gnome?
[08:59] <rush> i donteven know that
[09:00] <ducasse> by default, yes
[09:00] <rush> it seems good if it works.. has a gui also
[09:00] <rush> i will give it a try ,thanks for the help
[09:01] <ducasse> np
[09:03] <ducasse> just so you know, you don' really need to run gnome to use the disk utility or other gnome apps - you can install them manually
[09:03] <rush> well, it says i can clone a currently mounted frive anyway
[09:03] <rush> odd
[09:03] <rush> so i have to exit ubuntu before i can clone it !?
[09:04] <rush> which means i cnat run gnome disks lol
[09:04] <ducasse> no, just unmount the usb
[09:05] <rush> but the nthe os wont run?
[09:05] <rush> my os is on the usb completely here
[09:06] <ducasse> ah, i see. have you got another usb with the installer on it?
[09:06] <rush> no
[09:06] <rush> i run usb only
[09:06] <rush> i have ubuntiu on my usb
[09:06] <rush> thats it
[09:06] <rush> i need  s seperate ubuntu i think then
[09:06] <rush> somehow
[09:06] <rush> or can i just clone it with windows?
[09:07] <rush> does windows clone linux files ok?
[09:08] <ducasse> you don't clone the files, just the raw device, so doing it from windows shouldn't matter.
[09:08] <rush> yes ok.. u know wat i mean
[09:08] <rush> can the device reliably be cloned if i plug into windows pc?
[09:08] <rush> thats good
[09:08] <rush> much easier
[09:08] <rush> if u are sure it can clone linux data fine
[09:08] <rush> i read sumwhere maybe it doesnt work well
[09:09] <ducasse> i don't know if a tool like rufus or etcher can create images, they might
[09:09] <chomwitt> why software center wont report idle-python ? (18.04)
[09:10] <ducasse> rush: a raw image is just a dump of the disk, it doesn't need to read the files
[09:10] <rush> ok.. it must have ben a linux fanboy trying to scare people away from using windows software lol
[09:13] <ducasse> https://www.easeus.com/backup-utility/clone-usb-drive.html
[09:17] <rush> thanks ducasse
[09:17] <rush> im sure it will be fine.. as long as it can read the linux ystem as i say., or watever
[09:18] <ducasse> if you clone the actual usb device it will work
[09:22] <rush> thanks
[09:23] <sa_> Hi I’m working on out-of-tree drivers on ubuntu platform. I’d like to release the source code for the out-of-tree drivers as a ubuntu package , I don’t know how to create a package and keeping it in internal repository and pulling it from internal repository. Can anyone suggest me good pointers on this stuff?
[09:25] <ducasse> sa_: try asking in #ubuntu-packaging, maybe?
[09:26] <sa_> ok thanks
[09:31] <sa_> While there are many of packages in the Ubuntu archive, I’d like to know is there any command to know the packages hosted by a particular repository?
[09:35] <ducasse> sa_: you can do it with an aptitude search, but i can't help you with the actual command
[09:40] <TabMasher> I'm making a BTRFS to install Ubuntu.  How can I make set all the files to be compressed?  Either during the install, or after the install, I'd like as much of the disk to be compressed?
[09:42] <blackflow> TabMasher: Look up the manpages and documentation. The reason I say that is because btrfs is a complex filesystem and using it without knowing how to really use it is illadvised. Plus, it's not really stable, so make sure you have proper backups.
[09:43] <ducasse> +1, it's lost data for me more than once
[09:43] <uruk7> hello i cannot remove a files -> -rwxrwxrwx and in lsattr is --------------e--- can you help me?
[09:43] <TabMasher> blackflow: Thank you for the advice.  I just need a filesystem that supports compression mainly, and I don't know which other ubuntu supported filesystems supports file compression.
[09:45] <blackflow> TabMasher: Question is, do you really need it? What do you intend to store on it? Unless you have a lot of text documents or files that don't already compress, you're NOT going to see significant compression ratios.
[09:45] <ducasse> zfs, but that's only supported for storage, not the root fs
[09:45] <blackflow> ducasse: it's supported for root as well
[09:46] <ducasse> zfs, by ubuntu? you can't select it in the installer, afaik.
[09:47] <blackflow> TabMasher: i'm using ZFS exclusively on all the machines and I don't see compressratio above 1.10 which is cca 10%
[09:47] <blackflow> ducasse: so? it works fine as a root fs. the installer does not cover all possible use cases anyway.
[09:47] <blackflow> unless the metric for "supported" is what the installer does? which would be a very bad thing :)
[09:48] <TabMasher> blackflow: I have large highly compressible files that contain redundant data.  I don't really need the system files to be compressed so much.
[09:49] <blackflow> TabMasher: well, you know your use case the best. Just consider whether you really need to add the complexity. disk space is relatively cheap nowadays. what file format is it, that doesn't already compress, and there's huge size of them?
[09:49] <ducasse> it works, yes, but it wasn't officially supported last i saw. but i agree that's a technicality.
[09:50] <blackflow> ducasse: by the installer? yes. By system tools, kernel and initramfs. It most certainly is ;)
[09:50] <TabMasher> blackflow: I'm on a laptop so disk space matters in this case.
[09:51] <blackflow> (yes = not supported)
[09:52] <TabMasher> I'm needing a software/fs solution.  Only other OS that would probably work well is NTFS of all things...
[09:52] <TabMasher> err, FS.
[09:52] <blackflow> TabMasher: then consider btrfs, zfs or squashfs, maybe just for the partition that will hold all that compressible, redundant data.
[09:53] <blackflow> TabMasher: I suppose btrfs is easiest to use in this case. compression is mount option. ** DO ** consult the docs about all that, it's not a regular FS.
[09:56] <TabMasher> I wish I knew how to implement ZFS for my /home dir for example.  Can you recommend some literature for reading about how to use btrfs and zfs "natively" in ubuntu?  That would help me a great deal.  Thank you very much.
[09:57] <blackflow> TabMasher: the book ZFS Mastery is affordable on Amazon. I use ZFS exlusively, and am biased toward it. No idea what to recommend about btrfs other than try google.
[09:59] <blackflow> TabMasher: sorry it's "FreeBSD Mastery: ZFS". Doesn't matter that it uses FreeBSD as the base OS, ZFS here is OpenZFS, so most concepts apply regardles of the base OS.
[10:00] <blackflow> there's also the followup book "FreeBSD Mastery: Advanced ZFS", those two are highly recommended if you want to seriously use ZFS.
[10:02] <TabMasher> Online literature would be preferable.  A website with btrfs and/or ZFS information.  ZFS sounds absolutely ideal, but I don't know my way around it and enough linux to implement.
[10:05] <sensible> I am using Dell server poweredgeT440, I have two hard disks each having 4TB space , I want to install ubuntu server with RAIS 1 partition
[10:05] <ducasse> TabMasher: https://pthree.org/2012/04/17/install-zfs-on-debian-gnulinux/
[10:06] <sensible> *RAID 1 partition, in this case what should be the size for swap,ext4 etc?
[10:07] <TabMasher> ducasse: Thank you for the link.
[10:07] <blackflow> TabMasher: ducasse that's not a good link
[10:08] <blackflow> Ubuntu fully supports ZFS. there's zfsutils-linux package, and the modules are part of the kernel. Back in 2012, especially Debian (even today) required building ZFS from source.
[10:08] <blackflow> TabMasher: look up "ZFS tutorial", that's about generic use of ZFS, regardless of underlying OS. Avoid tutorials that wnt you to build something from source, not needed on Ubuntu.
[10:10] <TabMasher> I thought that Ubuntu supported ZFS already, I've never been able to find out how to use it.  Even if I just make one big /home partition in ZFS, that would be acceptable.  I'll look up more recent ZFS tutorials.  Thank yo for your help and you suggestions/input.
[10:10] <TabMasher> your^
[10:11] <blackflow> TabMasher: it does, that's my whole point here
[10:11] <TabMasher> err, Thank you.
[10:11] <blackflow> TabMasher: in short?   sudo apt install zfsutils-linux ; sudo modprobe zfs (not sure even if needed nowadays) ;   zpool create my_first_zfs_pool /dev/sdX    where sdX is a free partition to use.
[10:12] <blackflow> TabMasher: just note, ZFS is not a regular filesystem. it's.... LVM + mdadm + filesystem + compression + snapshots + ...     all rolled into one.
[10:12] <sensible> Is it neccessary to allocate space for ext4 before installing ubuntu?
[10:13] <blackflow> TabMasher: (not literally LVM + mdadm + ....    but volume management + raid management + .... )
[10:13] <TabMasher> blackflow: I remember reading up about it 3-4 years ago and getting really fascinated with it.
[10:14] <blackflow> TabMasher: I can't imagine running anything else these days.
[10:15] <blackflow> sensible: depends on what exactly you want to do. The installer can use the entire disk and allocate all the space needed, automatically.
[10:15] <TabMasher> blackflow: So you're using ZFS native under ubuntu/linux, or just from FreeBSD? :o
[10:16] <blackflow> TabMasher: both, with more machines on Ubuntu than FreeBSD
[10:17] <TabMasher> blackflow: Very awesome.  I hope to find a ZFS tutorial.  lol, maybe you might consider writing your own ZFS Blog/Tutorial someday.
[10:17] <blackflow> TabMasher: nah. Plenty of material out there, and I really recommend those books. there's kindle edition of them, and that's how I have them anyway. android kindle app, I don't have the device.
[10:18] <blackflow> in fact, all the books I own are digital :)   dead trees are so 1990s  ;)
[10:19] <TabMasher> blackflow: I'll see if I can find hard-copies next time I go to the bookstore to check them out, and then maybe order them from Amazon. :D
[10:20] <TabMasher> blackflow: That's true.  It would work well along with my tablet.
[10:41] <yecril71pl> gdm hangs in Wayland under 18.04
[10:42] <yecril71pl> driver=i915
[10:42] <yecril71pl> I had to disable Wayland in order to start gdm
[10:43] <blackflow> yecril71pl: there's a reason wayland was removed as _default_ in 18.04. gnome isn't ready for it, won't be until gtk4
[10:45] <yecril71pl> but it is still default for gdm and it causes the computer to hang
[10:46] <qwebirc47546> hi
[10:46] <qwebirc47546> hello guys i need help
[10:46] <yecril71pl> Also, the installer for 18.04 ignored my mdadm volumes, rendering them unusable
[10:47] <yecril71pl> Things went back to normal as soon as I installed mdadm
[10:47] <qwebirc47546> how i can open my dvd so i can use some file inside it
[10:47] <Amany> 12:46 < qwebirc47546> hello guys i need help
[10:47] <Amany> hm.
[10:48] <yecril71pl> DVDs cannot be opened.
[10:48] <qwebirc47546> why
[10:48] <qwebirc47546> i need the files inside it
[10:48] <yecril71pl> They are solid and there is nothing inside.
[10:48] <yecril71pl> The files are on their surface, not inside them.
[10:48] <qwebirc47546> i putted some files on it from windows
[10:48] <yecril71pl> So the files are on it, not in it
[10:49] <qwebirc47546> what im gonna do now?
[10:49] <qwebirc47546> how i can acces them
[10:49] <yecril71pl> Insert the disc into the tray
[10:49] <qwebirc47546> then
[10:50] <yecril71pl> say { udisksctl mount -b /dev/cdrom; }
[10:50] <qwebirc47546> it said that (Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sr0 is not a mountable filesystem.)
[10:51] <guiverc_t> qwebirc47546, i just inserted a disc in my dvd; opened nautilus & then can open the files on it... note: if the disc was written on the windoze machine you were using before and not 'closed', no other machine can use it unless closed (depends on software used for write though)
[10:51] <yecril71pl> say { file -s /dev/cdrom; }
[10:52] <qwebirc47546> what do you mean (closed)
[10:52] <guiverc_t> qwebirc47546, if write wasn't complete; the 'directory' for the fs on disc will still be on writing (nero etc) machine, is written on close....
[10:52] <zetheroo> how would I get the total amount of memory being used by Chrome/Chromium?
[10:52] <qwebirc47546> it said(/dev/cdrom: symbolic link to sr0)
[10:52] <yecril71pl> it means that nothing can be added to the disc
[10:52] <yecril71pl> say { file -s /dev/sr0; }
[10:53] <qwebirc47546> it says (/dev/sr0: data)
[10:53] <qwebirc47546> and the disc was making sound
[10:53] <yecril71pl> That looks like the disc is damaged
[10:54] <qwebirc47546> :'(
[10:54] <yecril71pl> I am sorry
[10:54] <yecril71pl> You need a professional to recover the data
[10:54] <qwebirc47546> is ther any program that can open it like windows does
[10:55] <qwebirc47546> like a simulator
[10:55] <yecril71pl> You can have Windows under QEMU
[10:56] <qwebirc47546> i need to full install it?
[10:56] <yecril71pl> You cannot partially install Windows
[10:56] <qwebirc47546> there is no simulators?
[10:56] <yecril71pl> ReactOS
[10:57] <qwebirc47546> what it does and how to install it and do you think it will open itµ?
[10:57] <yecril71pl> I do not, the disc looks damaged.
[10:57] <qwebirc47546> ok
[10:58] <yecril71pl> ReactOS simulates Windows.
[10:58] <qwebirc47546> how to install itN
[10:58] <qwebirc47546> how to install it?
[10:58] <yecril71pl> Read the instructions on their home page
[10:59] <yecril71pl> You start the computer from a bootable CD with ReactOS, and that is it
[10:59] <qwebirc47546> ok thanks
[11:00] <qwebirc47546> what diffrent about boot cd and livecd
[11:00] <qwebirc47546> what diffrent betwen boot cd and livecd
[11:01] <guiverc_t> qwebirc47546, bootable means it boots & lets you install or other.  live means it can boot, and act like an installed OS (without install, but within limits - ie. when rebooted nothing on the hdd/sdds gets changed)
[11:09] <gt8ost4l> does anybody here know why in firefox or chrome when i try to download a file from libgen it says its is malware and has a virus?
[11:12] <HexaByte> Hi. I'm trying to install php 5.4 alongside 7.2 on Ubuntu 18.04. The only place I found packages was on http://packages.rusoft.ru/ppa/rusoft/php/5.4/pool/ubuntu-xenial/amd64/php54/, so I added deb http://packages.rusoft.ru/ppa/rusoft/php/5.4 ubuntu-bionic main as a repo and it's key. PHP works, but I can not install some modules like mysql, due to dependencies. Anyone willing to help? Deps problem can be seen here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hjpfr2hcBV/
[11:12] <ppf> gt8ost4l: on ubuntu??
[11:12] <gt8ost4l> ppf:yes
[11:13] <ppf> gt8ost4l: can you screenshot?
[11:13] <gt8ost4l> https://imgur.com/a/A20F7
[11:14] <gt8ost4l> ppf: im not the only one with this problem
[11:16] <ppf> gt8ost4l: wow
[11:16] <gt8ost4l> ppf; know
[11:16] <ppf> i mean, you can disable that feature (have they heard of 'privacy'), but .. wow
[11:16] <gt8ost4l> i
[11:16] <ppf> "feature"
[11:17] <gt8ost4l> ppf: where is it?
[11:17] <ppf> https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/8hlyy7/firefox_this_file_contains_a_virus_or_malware_and/ fwiw
[11:17] <qwebirc10391> Hello um I tried to install Ubuntu but then it said installation when I reached to the location setup option so I tried it with another usb it SAYS grub minimal bash line how to fix this
[11:18] <qwebirc10391> Installation failed when I reached the setting the location
[11:23] <ppf> failed how
[11:42] <HexaByte> OK. I will give up on Ubuntu 18.04. Unless I want to compile from source, there is no way to get PHP 5.4 alongside current PHP versions from packages. Going back to CentOS 7 where there are multiple repos for it.
[11:42] <HexaByte> Correct me if I'm wrong.
[11:42] <ppf> docker
[11:43] <ppf> HexaByte: ^ that was my correction (and my suggestion like a week ago)
[11:43] <HexaByte> ppf I will not run a containers just to get another PHP FPM running
[11:43] <HexaByte> inside of a VM
[11:44] <ppf> that's what they're for
[11:44] <HexaByte> there is no way, developers will make the app fit the container
[11:45] <ppf> why do developers care
[11:45] <ppf> how do you 'fit' a container?
[11:45] <ppf> but anyways, if you don't want to use a container, built from source is your only option on a recent ubuntu
[11:50] <HexaByte> ppf: There are some packages here: http://packages.rusoft.ru/ , specifically here: http://packages.rusoft.ru/ppa/rusoft/php/5.4 the only problem I have is with mysql extensions, which require old libmysql
[11:50] <Ool> HexaByte: I don't know for bionic but perhaps it's still working : https://askubuntu.com/questions/761713/how-can-i-downgrade-from-php-7-to-php-5-6-on-ubuntu-16-04/762161#762161
[11:50] <HexaByte> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hjpfr2hcBV/ if there is a way to work around that
[11:50] <ppf> HexaByte: yes, old packages were not dropped from the repos just to annoy you ;)
[11:50] <HexaByte> I have working 5.6 Ool thank you I need 5.4
[11:51] <Ool> arf
[11:51] <HexaByte> ppf: I know, it's normal
[11:51] <HexaByte> guys at rusoft shoud provide those, but either they are not, or I do not know how to use their repos
[11:52] <ppf> HexaByte: maybe they are, but there's going to be a conflict with the mysql libs required for your current system
[11:53] <ppf> this dependence nightmare is _the_ motivator for snap/flatpak (and thus by extension containerization)
[11:54] <HexaByte> i think they do provide these packages, I just do not know how to use APT repos of theirs
[11:55] <ppf> there's simply a version conflict
[11:55] <HexaByte> http://packages.rusoft.ru/ppa/rusoft/mariadb/5.5/pool/ubuntu-xenial/amd64/mariadb-5.5/
[11:55] <ppf> !info libmysqlclient18
[11:55] <HexaByte> i'll just add mariadb as a repo like i did with php 5.4
[11:55] <HexaByte> so no conflict anyways
[11:56] <HexaByte> i guess they used different paths
[11:56] <ppf> ?
[11:56] <ppf> your apt knows the pacakge
[11:56] <ppf> but it tells you it can't install it
[11:57] <ppf> that can be because it doesn't know where to get it from, or that there's a version conflict
[11:57] <HexaByte> i see that it does not know where it it
[11:57] <HexaByte> it is
[11:57] <HexaByte> I will fix this shortly
[11:57] <HexaByte> will let you know
[11:59] <HexaByte> bah libmysqlclient18 : Depends: libmariadbclient18 (= 5.5.60+maria-1rusoft5.3~bionic1) but 1:10.1.29-6 is to be installed
[11:59] <HexaByte> i guess I have to replace original mysql with theirs
[11:59] <ppf> breaking everything using mysql in your system
[11:59] <HexaByte> yes
[12:00] <ppf> the solution is to use a container. if you don't like that i can't help you
[12:01] <auvrayc> des
[12:01] <auvrayc> CC
[12:01] <HexaByte> thank you for your help ppf
[12:01] <demoucha> cv
[12:01] <demoucha> cc
[12:01] <auvrayc> Cc les amis
[12:01] <HexaByte> will go to EL7 where 5.4 can be installed alongside n.p.
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[12:02] <ppf> HexaByte: if that works for you then that's a good solution
[12:02] <demoucha> cccccccccc
[12:02] <ppf> provided you don't need any recent versions not in the rhel repos
[12:03] <auvrayc> drfffffcccfcfcfcfcf
[12:03] <auvrayc> ffkfgfk
[12:03] <auvrayc> ff
[12:03] <auvrayc> f
[12:03] <auvrayc> f
[12:03] <auvrayc> f
[12:03] <coconut> demoucha, auvrayc, would you use normal words please?
[12:03] <ducasse> auvrayc: stop that, please. do you have a support question?
[12:04] <auvrayc> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:04] <auvrayc> CC ducasse
[12:04] <auvrayc> CC coconut
[12:06] <HexaByte> ppf: in EL you have SCL and pretty much every version of PHP including 7.3.0alpha2 :-)
[12:07] <HexaByte> But I just started using Ubuntu recently for servers and some things are done a bit more to my liking
[12:07] <HexaByte> and I just assumed that 5.4 would also be available via oandre or whatnot
[12:07] <ppf> yes, you have SCLs for a lot of things, but they were never complete enough for my taste
[12:08] <ppf> plus, maintaining services that require scls is tedious
[12:09] <matmal01> Hi there, it seems that an Xorg configuration I have for certain keyboards to be US layout and all others to be GB is getting overridden in Ubuntu 16.04. Could this be the Input Method IBus?
[12:10] <clyd> hi all... anyone using unity-launcher-folders in 16.04? cant drag and drop items most proly its this :  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/G6Wr4jJy69/
[12:11] <clyd> is unity launcher folders and drawers app same?
[12:15] <transhuman> hi I have an 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) I get no sound, looks like lots of people have had this problem over the years (this is on a new install) I am using Ubuunt 18.04.
[12:15] <transhuman> headphones work perfectly fine ( head phones are a 3 prong jack, not two) so this could be the problem, not sure how to find out for certain that its 3 progronged jack but I think it is since the 3 prong plug fits in perfectly fine.
[12:15] <transhuman> sudo cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf | pastebinit
[12:15] <transhuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qkd3GNFjD9/
[12:15] <transhuman> sudo lsmod | grep -i snd | pastebinit
[12:15] <transhuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fYk8W7Bz4f/
[12:18] <transhuman> oh and I tried both front and rear jacks
[12:23] <JimBuntu> !unity-launcher-folders
[12:29] <svip> I have a laptop with an Intel i7-2640M CPU.  As far as I know, that CPU should have 4 physical cores and hyperthreading.  I have enabled HT, but still my system only reports 4 cores, shouldn't Linux be seeing 8?
[12:30] <svip> /proc/cpuinfo only reports 4 processors.
[12:30] <janisvilcans> yours have only 2 cores, 4 threads
[12:31] <janisvilcans> https://ark.intel.com/products/53464/Intel-Core-i7-2640M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz
[12:31] <svip> janisvilcans: Ah, OK.  It's just weird that the BIOS settings allows me to change active cores to 1, 2 and ALL.
[12:31] <janisvilcans> ALL = 2
[12:31] <janisvilcans> :)
[12:32] <svip> I assumed ALL meant 4, since there was a 2 option.
[12:32] <svip> janisvilcans: Thank you!
[12:34] <JimBuntu> core != threads (virtual core)
[12:35] <transhuman> anyone have an ideas on the problem I listed above
[12:38] <clyd> JimBuntu: what does ! mark infront of a phrase mean on irc?
[12:38] <ppf> an attempt to talk to a bot
[12:38] <ppf> !hello
[12:38] <ppf> !ubottu
[12:39] <clyd> ppf: i see
[12:39] <clyd> !drawers
[12:41] <ioria> clyd, i think you used an external  .deb file for that app
[12:41] <clyd> ioria: yes
[12:42] <ioria> clyd, so no point in triggering the bot :þ
[12:42] <clyd> was just testing the bot.sorry
[12:42] <ioria> clyd, check comments 2# to #5 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325175
[12:43] <clyd> ioria:  tnx been on that link already
[12:43] <ioria> clyd, did you edit generateIcon.py ?
[12:44] <clyd> ioria: yes,edited that too
[12:45] <clyd> issue is i cant drag & drop items into the drawer
[12:49] <ioria> clyd, what happens when you do it ?
[12:51] <clyd> ioria: followed the video.it seems easy,but when i do it.only 1 icon appear..it should work for other firefox profiles right?
[12:52] <clyd> are there any exceptions for items that cant be drag and drop to the gray box of launch folder editor?
[12:55] <ioria> clyd, fot the icon you need to right click ,Properties option. an select the icon
[12:56] <clyd> ioria: im ok on that part
[12:56] <ioria> clyd, this, right ?  https://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2016/12/ulf-app-properties.png
[12:57] <akem> Hey, what umask should i use for read/execute permission for everyone but NOT write, (this is for mounting an NTFS volume) ? i read umask=000 but this is full access including write.
[12:58] <clyd> ioria, got an idea.brb
[13:00] <clyd> ioria:  nah..some other time.this is getting old. tnx
[13:11] <akem> Found umask=022... :)
[13:13] <transhuman> repostig my problem for newcomers as a simple link (its a sound problem ) https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J7kmyGRTmB/
[13:15] <AdamDay86> transhuman: I take it this is a laptop
[13:16]  * AdamDay86 sips his coffee
[13:16] <transhuman> no its a media pic
[13:16] <transhuman> pc
[13:16] <AdamDay86> And you are trying to get audio to go over hdmi?
[13:16] <transhuman> no through any of the 6-8 ports on the back or two on the front
[13:17] <AdamDay86> but headphones work?
[13:17] <AdamDay86> hrm
[13:17] <transhuman> one thing I am not clear about is whether its a 2 prong headphone output or 3 pronged
[13:17] <transhuman> dont have speakers just headphones , and yes they work fine
[13:17] <transhuman> use them on another machine
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[13:18] <leftyfb> kiriuha: can we help you with something?
[13:18] <AdamDay86> I believe the intel audio is for hdmi audio, and the ac 97 is the audio on the sound chip on the motherboard
[13:19] <leftyfb> !op | kiriuha this spammer is back again
[13:19] <cristian_c> leftyfb: I mean, about the question I've asked
[13:19] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[13:19] <transhuman> thanks for that clarification so It looks like I need to load another sound module
[13:19] <transhuman> ?
[13:20] <transhuman> which one would I use
[13:20] <transhuman> it doesnt appear to see an ac97
[13:20] <AdamDay86> Well, you should be able to pick the output device, make sure the default is the ac97
[13:20] <leftyfb> cristian_c: from 21 hours ago?
[13:20] <AdamDay86> it's a standard sound chip
[13:20] <AdamDay86> ubuntu should see it fine
[13:21] <leftyfb> cristian_c: no, I don't. But there are over 1700 other people here that could have potentially helped you out in the meantime
[13:21] <transhuman> AdamDay86, I see two devices presently Digital Output S/PDIF built in audio and a Line Out-Builtin Audio
[13:21] <AdamDay86> pick the line out one
[13:22] <AdamDay86> then start a song or something, or youtube, and test all the outputs
[13:22] <transhuman> Yeah its running
[13:22] <cristian_c> leftyfb: ok, but I've not received other answers
[13:22] <AdamDay86> and make sure the volume is up ^_^
[13:22] <transhuman> problem is when I click on a speaker to test 2 or soround sound 5.1, etc the button to run the test sound does nothing
[13:23] <transhuman> volume is up to max in 3 different methods, including alsamixer
[13:23] <transhuman> with all about 15 things showing except spdif which seems to do nothing
[13:23] <AdamDay86> (I'm going to be honest here transhuman, I run elementaryos, I can't really look at the audio system ubuntu uses :( )
[13:23] <transhuman> no problem , perhaps I should go to a mailing list
[13:24] <transhuman> it simply just doesnt work
[13:24] <AdamDay86> did you check out the ubuntu forums?
[13:24] <varshitbhat> Does vlc media spoil speaker
[13:24] <AdamDay86> the forums are a great source of help too ^_^
[13:24] <transhuman> ok I will check
[13:24] <AdamDay86> k
[13:25] <transhuman> varshitbhat, whats that
[13:25] <transhuman> thanks
[13:25] <transhuman> I have vlc installed
[13:26] <varshitbhat> No, someone said me vlc media player will corrupt the speakers of the  laptop.i found in net that it happens for most sensitive laptops if volume is set above 100%(over amplification feature).
[13:33] <ukyrgf> VLC lets you set the volume "above" 100%, but it's nothing magical, it just adds compression and distortion like any other amplifier. Any sustained noise at full volume could damage a speaker.
[13:40] <transhuman> I see, well I have set the volume at mid and high levels, no sound what so ever
[13:40] <transhuman> but now I am wondering if its not loading the AC97 due to some detection interference, problem with the intel sound chip
[13:41] <transhuman> AdamDay86, is the forum indexed by google?
[13:42] <XenophonF> this is ridiculous - fresh install of ubuntu 18.04, no matter what password I enter, it claims that it's a dictionary word and won't let me skip the first user account creation step
[13:42] <ghostnik11> hey quick question during boot after the ubuntu logo, i notice it says error invalid boot sequence then shows a lot of code that runs fast then it brings me to the login screen. how can i reproduce that in terminal? i want to learn what errors are occurring during boot that the system sees on my asus t100taf
[13:44] <leftyfb> XenophonF: so type a better password
[13:44] <leftyfb> ghostnik11: type dmesg
[13:44] <leftyfb> ghostnik11: or look in /var/log/syslog
[13:46] <zetheroo> is there a way to see all the installed programs (not packages) installed?
[13:49] <JimBuntu> ghostnik11, is the info not in dmesg?
[13:49] <ghostnik11> leftyfb: i am still getting this drm:intel_bios_init [i915] *error* invalid sequence block (header)
[13:49] <XenophonF> leftyfb: I'm typing strings generated by 1Password.
[13:49] <ghostnik11> JimBuntu, yeah i get two errors but during the boot when i press esc key i feel like i might have more errors. with dmesg i have only two errors shown with red text
[13:51] <XenophonF> q;1.2,3n4:5 is clearly not a dictionary word, and yet it says "Try to avoid common words"
[13:51] <compdoc> youre good then
[13:51] <ghostnik11> JimBuntu, thing is, i put kernel 4.16.9 on my asus t100taf with ubuntu 16.04 and now i finally got brightness working via the fn keys and now my battery is 9+ hours b4 with other kernels it was only like lets say 3 hours so i feel this is a big improvement but i don't understand why i still get error
[13:52] <XenophonF> ghostnik11: create /var/log/journald and restart systemd-journald
[13:52] <XenophonF> that's a directory btw, root:root and 0755
[13:53] <XenophonF> that will cause systemd logs to persist across reboots
[13:53] <XenophonF> in case what you need isn't in the legacy syslog
[13:54] <XenophonF> although dmesg and possibly the regular journald logs should have what you need, if it happens at boot time
[13:54] <XenophonF> so the `dmesg` command mentioned by JimBuntu, and `journalctl -xe` to read the logs
[13:59] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, hold on that was really fast what u said, i get the first one about making directory but the journalctl -xe? can i run that command at boot then will be able to see the log? or no, i still need to create a directory. because i thought by default that all logs were saved somewhere in ubuntu
[14:02] <XenophonF> systemd doesn't persist logs across reboots
[14:02] <XenophonF> depending on what you're troubleshooting, you might want that
[14:03] <XenophonF> so to get journald logs to persist, you have to create that directory and restart systemd-journald
[14:04] <XenophonF> maybe on 18.04 that directory exists by default?
[14:04] <XenophonF> anyway, you read the logs using journalctl
[14:06] <XenophonF> there's got to be a way to skip gnome-initial-setup
[14:08] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, yeah i read the same thing from blog of journalctl, okay i understand will make it right now and see. i think the developers of these great distros should put this feature by default
[14:08] <XenophonF> ah here we go
[14:09] <XenophonF> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1028822/disable-the-new-ubuntu-18-04-welcome-screen
[14:09] <XenophonF> yeah I can never keep all these little differences across distros straight
[14:10] <XenophonF> ooooh and that's how i disable wayland, too!
[14:10] <XenophonF> fantastic
[14:13] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, okay i created directory and now i can just reboot tablet? which will reboot or restart systemd-journald?
[14:17] <XenophonF> yes
[14:19] <unrecovered> hi! how do i autostart vpn connection when openvpn service starts?
[14:19] <unrecovered> (ubuntu, obviously :D)
[14:21] <JimBuntu> unrecovered, https://askubuntu.com/questions/229800/how-to-auto-start-openvpn-client-on-ubuntu-cli
[14:23] <unrecovered> JimBuntu yeah, already did
[14:24] <unrecovered> added in /etc/openvpn and did AUTOSTART="all"
[14:25] <unrecovered> still doesnt work
[14:25] <unrecovered> any other ideas? :D
[14:25] <unrecovered> damn logs are empty, it doesn't even try -_-
[14:25] <JimBuntu> unrecovered, yes. Double check that manually running the config works.
[14:26] <JimBuntu> as in... openvpn --config /path/to/config
[14:28] <unrecovered> yeah, it works, and other side available(pingable)
[14:30] <JimBuntu> sorry unrecovered, I have not tried to start the client automatically before. The askubuntu answer looked good with 18 +s.
[14:31] <ppf> maybe a user-level systemd service
[14:32] <unrecovered> damn
[14:36] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, okay so i did exactly what u said and now i see the error and it has to deal with the powerstate and suspend and resume. kernel: [drm:intel_bios_init [i915]] *ERROR* Invalid sequence block (header)
[14:40] <G__81> i am getting the following error when i do apt-get autoremove or update
[14:40] <G__81> Failed to restart lvm2-lvmetad.service: Unit lvm2-lvmetad.socket is masked.
[14:40] <G__81> invoke-rc.d: initscript lvm2-lvmetad, action "restart" failed.
[14:40] <G__81> ● lvm2-lvmetad.service - LVM2 metadata daemon
[14:40] <G__81>    Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/lvm2-lvmetad.service; static; vendor preset: enabled)
[14:40] <G__81>    Active: inactive (dead)
[14:41] <G__81> i have pasted the error in the following location https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SVb8h77Whc/
[14:42] <G__81> i am using ubuntu 18.04
[14:42] <ppf> G__81: unmask it then
[14:42] <ppf> systemctl unmask lvm2-lvmetad.socket
[14:43] <ppf> though it'd be interesting to know who masked it in the first place
[14:44] <ghostnik11> i also have modules that aren't loading but it seems to be problem for ubuntu 16.04 for example: systemd-modules-load[302]: Failed to find module 'lp'
[14:44] <G__81> ppf, thanks i tried it but i still get the same failure while i do apt-get autoremove or update
[14:45] <ppf> unmasked the service as well?
[14:45] <zealsham_> how do i resolve this, i am trying to use katoolin to install some kali tools but get this errors
[14:45] <zealsham_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:45] <zealsham_>  libc6-dev : Breaks: binutils (< 2.26) but 2.24-5ubuntu14.2 is to be installed
[14:45] <zealsham_> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[14:46] <G__81> ppf, infact it showed me two and now have unmasked the second one as well. I did autoremove and now i get the following
[14:46] <G__81> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6BZNf28S5f/
[14:46] <RSpliet> When bugs do not get picked up in over a month, what do I do?
[14:47] <ppf> G__81: apt -f install
[14:49] <zealsham_> can anyone help me
[14:49] <ppf> zealsham_: you installed some ppa and that broke dependencies
[14:49] <ppf> !ppapurge
[14:50] <zealsham_> ppf: how do i resolve it
[14:50] <G__81> ppf, thanks a lot. It works fine
[14:51] <ppf> zealsham_: see ubottu's info
[14:52] <oerheks_> !kali
[14:52] <oerheks_> zealsham_, nobody here is going to hellp you with kali, join the kali channels for that
[14:52] <ppf> oerheks_: i goodheartedly assumed he wanted to install kali tools on ubuntu :)
[14:53] <oerheks_> yeah, but you know what happen with your environment in ubuntu??
[14:53] <oerheks_> we support no kali  for a reason :-D
[14:53] <zealsham_> oerheks_: am on ubuntu and trying to use katoolin to install some kali  tools for pentesting
[14:53] <Ool> mix seems to be not a good idea
[14:53] <oerheks_> and kali is based on #debian now
[14:54] <oerheks_> zealsham_, yes, see the ubottu factoid where to get help
[14:58] <ProfP30> Is this correct, that next Ubuntu version will reject creating shortcuts on the desktop?
[14:58] <XenophonF> ghostnik11: if you're on 16.04, are you running the HWE kernel?
[14:58] <XenophonF> or are you on the GA kernel?
[14:59] <RSpliet> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dia/+bug/1770617
[14:59] <RSpliet> Been ignored for over a month, likely a bug in GTK2. What do I do to get peoples attention?
[15:00] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, i am running kernel 4.16.9, don't know what you mean when u say hwe kernel vs. ga kernel
[15:00] <sruli> i've got a weird issue with connectivity (16.04 mate) i tried to add the pc to a vlan so added it in /etc/network/interfaces, added some routing, all worked fine and then I removed all the new config, back to regular NM but since then my internet connectivity is all over the place, sometimes i can ping sites and sometimes get a page with wget but never in the browser, i completely removed NM and reinstalled, how can i trouble shoot this?
[15:01] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, i did find a error that relates to bluetooth module functionality and might be able to clear a headache i have with bluetooth connecting with my bluetooth speaker in ubuntu 16.04
[15:10] <oerheks_> RSpliet, i find no simular bugreports about dia/gimp printing issues
[15:10] <ghostnik11> XenophonF, thanks for all the help, from what i have seen of the errors that occur on my asus t100taf, they are superficial and don't warrant me to do anything. i have now a more dynamic system with this little tablet and its functionality of having ubuntu on it and android x86 so yeah. i will be cool with what i have now.
[15:21] <nacc> RSpliet: both are in universe and need someone with an interest to look into it
[15:28] <Haris> hello all
[15:28] <Haris> how to hard kill apache2 process on 14.x lts ?
[15:28] <sruli> i've got a weird issue with connectivity (16.04 mate) i tried to add the pc to a vlan so added it in /etc/network/interfaces, added some routing, all worked fine and then I removed all the new config, back to regular NM but since then my internet connectivity is all over the place, sometimes i can ping sites and sometimes get a page with wget but never in the browser, i completely removed NM and reinstalled, how can i trouble shoot this?
[15:28] <Haris> www      15061  0.0  2.4 516736 24480 ?        D    15:10   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[15:29] <Haris> I have this process. it won't die even when I run kill -9 pid
[15:31] <oerheks_> sudo service apache2 <stop/start/restart>
[15:31] <oerheks_> easy to find if you have a manual
[15:33] <AntonVanCrypto93> Hi guys... I need a favor.   It is Ubuntu related but from a cousin.  I have massive problems with an install that went really wrong.
[15:33] <AntonVanCrypto93> It is PURO OS but I have found that you guys are the very best for help.
[15:33] <AntonVanCrypto93> Can you make a little exception. I have been trying all kindsa things for 48 hours and nothing works.
[15:34] <oerheks_> AntonVanCrypto93, please read the topic, we do not support forks
[15:38] <Haris> how to force kill a process that won't die ?
[15:38] <Haris> its a single process for httpd
[15:39] <nacc> Haris: it's in uniterruptible sleep in the kernel
[15:39] <Haris> ?
[15:39] <nacc> Haris: meaning it's blocked on some IO operation (typically)
[15:39] <Haris> how to end it ?
[15:39] <nacc> Haris: you probably can't kill it easily
[15:39] <AntonVanCrypto93> Guys... Installed PURE OS and a lagg in keyboard made my password something I did not intended to.
[15:39] <Haris> hmm
[15:39] <nacc> AntonVanCrypto93: "PURO OS" is not Ubuntu, sorry.
[15:39] <oerheks_> AntonVanCrypto93, please read the topic, we do not support forks
[15:40] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: install Ubuntu
[15:40] <oerheks_> Haris, how about; sudo service apache2 stop
[15:40] <nacc> Haris: did you try what oerheks_ said to stop the service?
[15:40] <AntonVanCrypto93> Upon restarting PC the USB I intended to install OS failed. Upon inserting DVD to reinstall the Test Pure OS brings me back to login menu
[15:40] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: install Ubuntu
[15:40] <Haris>  * Stopping web server apache2
[15:40] <Haris>  *
[15:40] <Haris>  * There are processes named 'apache2' running which do not match your pid file which are left untouched in the name of safety, Please review the situation by hand.
[15:40] <leftyfb> !paste | Haris
[15:40] <Haris> I'v restarted service apache2 restart|stop. doesn't work
[15:40] <nacc> Haris: sounds like your system is in a bad state, did you run apache2 by hand?
[15:40] <AntonVanCrypto93> Anybody knows a way to force reinstall or access GRUB?   Folks at #purism are totally overwhelmed and not understand how crazy this is.
[15:41] <Haris> I'v tried kill -9, kill -15, kilall. nothing works
[15:41] <nacc> Haris: simplest way to stop it, is to restart
[15:41] <nacc> Haris: yes, as explained, kill will not.
[15:41] <Haris> no. not running by hand
[15:41] <AntonVanCrypto93> leftyfb I wish it was that easy.
[15:41] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: We can help you install Ubuntu
[15:42] <AntonVanCrypto93> leftyfb   does this mean no help for this "one time" PURE OS problem.
[15:42] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: correct
[15:42] <AntonVanCrypto93> You guys are really good and freaking helpful.
[15:42] <AntonVanCrypto93> Side window? Side chat? could you?
[15:42] <AntonVanCrypto93> I am really in a massive funk.
[15:42] <nacc> AntonVanCrypto93: why not just use ubuntu?
[15:42] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: when it comes to Ubuntu, yes, we try. We simply cannot be expected to support every distro that someone creates from Ubuntu.
[15:43] <oerheks_> btw pureOS is based on #debian
[15:43] <AntonVanCrypto93> I am running Ubuntu and Ubuntu is running superb. I also run Mint and have no issues. Debian rolls OK and Qubes run OK.
[15:43] <oerheks_> grinn
[15:43] <AntonVanCrypto93> I just wanted to test this derivated product by Purism (due to their Phone the Librem 5 to be released in 2019) and it turned into hell.
[15:44] <itJunky> Haris, what do you mean "nothing works"? What happened and writen to terminal? May be you don't have enough permissions?
[15:44] <AntonVanCrypto93> I can't remove or reinstall this distro and I know you Linux wizards are really good.  The Mint folks are rude.
[15:44] <nacc> AntonVanCrypto93: ok, so not a topic for this channel for sure. Don't use software that doesn't have support from the developers.
[15:44] <Haris> I'm root
[15:44] <Haris> what more permission do I need ? *lol*
[15:44] <AntonVanCrypto93> Based on debian..... I see. We know why it is nuts...
[15:44] <Haris> anyway, sent it for reboot
[15:44] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: you'll have to seek support from PureOS
[15:45] <nacc> Haris: it's not permissions.
[15:45] <nacc> Haris: please read what I wrote and do some research on it.
[15:45] <AntonVanCrypto93> leftyfb they are out of it.   They cannot understand. This is why I came to the Holy Land
[15:45] <itJunky> May be this process have a Z flag because it's zombie and can't be killed
[15:45] <nacc> itJunky: no, it's in D, uninterruptible sleep.
[15:45] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: except PureOS has nothing to do with Ubuntu. This is not the appropriate place for support
[15:45] <AntonVanCrypto93> The devs are not really able to comprehend what is up.    nacc> AntonVanCrypto93: ok, so not a topic for this channel for sure. Don't use software that doesn't have support from the developers.
[15:46] <AntonVanCrypto93> Should I try some crypto devs at debian?
[15:46] <nacc> AntonVanCrypto93: then definitely don't use their garbage software.
[15:46] <AntonVanCrypto93> Is it garbage?
[15:46] <blackflow> AntonVanCrypto93: you wanted to test that, right? Obvs is broken, so..... test complete?
[15:46] <oerheks_> AntonVanCrypto93, please stop
 AntonVanCrypto93: you wanted to test that, right? Obvs is broken, so..... test complete?
[15:46] <nacc> AntonVanCrypto93: if they can't support it in the first place... in any case, please drop it.
[15:46] <AntonVanCrypto93> Not wrong in a way.
[15:46] <AntonVanCrypto93> Did not worked to well.
[15:46] <blackflow> so install ubuntu.
[15:47] <leftyfb> or debian, or mint. Something that works and is supported
[15:47] <AntonVanCrypto93> blackflow   my UBUNTU BRINGS THE MILKSHAKE TO THE YARD and you guys are awesome... Sorry I dropped here... I am just in desperate situation and I ran out of ideas / help.
[15:47] <leftyfb> AntonVanCrypto93: good luck
[15:48] <AntonVanCrypto93> Thank you all.    I understand and I appreciate.   See you around and have a good day making UBUNTU work well.
[15:48] <AntonVanCrypto93> Thank you guys.
[15:53] <JimBuntu> Ubuntu 18.04, does CTRL-ALT-T still bring up a terminal?
[16:01] <oerheks_> JimBuntu, yes
[16:01] <oerheks_> why not on your system??
[16:01] <JimBuntu> Not on this HP Envy I just tried. I wasn't sure if it was the KB or what. Thanks!
[16:06] <ntd> hp envy. now there's some "buy this and think you're "prosumer""
[16:09] <JimBuntu> ntd, It was basically gifted, so I don't mind :)
[16:11] <Haris> thank you all
[16:20] <sruli> i've got a weird issue with connectivity (16.04 mate) i tried to add the pc to a vlan so added it in /etc/network/interfaces, added some routing, all worked fine and then I removed all the new config, back to regular NM but since then my internet connectivity is all over the place, sometimes i can ping sites and sometimes get a page with wget but never in the browser, i completely removed NM and reinstalled, how can i trouble shoot this?
[16:24] <svip> I am using the nvidia-driver-390, and I've noticed a seemingly constant high CPU usage.  Particularly Xorg seems to have a higher than usual CPU usage, although around 2-10%.
[16:24] <grym> how do i make /usr/bin/sensibile-browser respect ubuntu's default browser settings on 16.04?  I have firefox set as my default browser, but sensible-browser opens chrome instead
[16:25] <svip> Is there any benefit to switching to the nvidia-340 driver instead?
[16:28] <blackflow> svip: I had issues with gnome regularly crashing with 390. Upgraded to 396 from the graphics PPA, fixed the crashes.
[16:30] <AntonVanCrypto93> OK................... The geniuses over there at PURE OS figured it out.
[16:30] <svip> blackflow: Where is the PPA?
[16:31] <AntonVanCrypto93> That window in the TEST live was put there for no reson and was not related to the login (user and pass) that I had inserted. The answer to this LOOP OF HELL was to insert "pureos" as username.   Then it starts.
[16:31] <blackflow> svip: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers
[16:31] <AntonVanCrypto93> I hope you all have a good laugh at this.
[16:31] <AntonVanCrypto93> laugh >>> leftyfb
[16:31] <svip> blackflow: Thank you.
[16:32] <AntonVanCrypto93> blackflow do you read this?    How insane is that? Why put a LOGIN window in the middle of an install reboot that only devs know the username and password?
[16:33] <AntonVanCrypto93> The distro lyfe is a bitch sometimes. Thanks god for freenode and Ubuntu.
[16:33] <AntonVanCrypto93> Please laugh at this a little. Wasted 48 hours of my life at it.
[16:34] <Guest15030> I'm trying to install ubuntu through the Live CD(USB Drive), and ubiquity gets stuck on "Detecting FileSystems." The logs show upowerd throwing [https://pastebin.com/KWbwVzxQ]. I tried using some of the solutions on AskUbuntu, but none of them worked, as they were all different errors.
[16:34] <svip> blackflow: Should I use that even if I have a Quadro 2000M?
[16:37] <m47h4r> Hey all, wazzup?
[16:38] <Jonta> Ceiling, yo
[16:38] <nacc> m47h4r: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:38] <Guest15030> Whoops, Nevermind. Apparently the installer continues anyway, just spamming the logs with that.
[16:42] <m47h4r> nacc: nope :D
[16:42] <m47h4r> nacc: why? am i known for too much question? (hope not)
[17:16] <kilo> hello
[17:16] <Jonta> kilo: Hi
[17:17] <kilo> head on over to #applerumors for the latest spicy android + iOS rumors!
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> kilo: only ubuntu support here please
[17:25] <oerheks_> kilo, please part this channel and focus on that fruitcompagny, thanks
[17:33] <arooni> question team: is there a way to change / add a keyboard shortcut that invokes ubuntu 18.04's start/menu/dash?  i dont seem to have a windows start button on this keyboard
[17:34] <arooni> im not seeing anything in the keyboard shortcuts section
[17:57] <nacc> arooni: tweaks -> keyboard & mouse -> alt/win key beahvior maybe?
[17:59] <Plof> has the bionic beaver update release point happened yet today?
[18:00] <Plof> cause I have not been notified yet on 16.04 for an upgrade and I knew they were wanting on that release
[18:00] <leftyfb> Plof: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[18:01] <Plof> leftyfb: I have already seen that is just says its scheduled for today
[18:02] <leftyfb> Plof: no it doesn't
[18:02] <Plof> it does not what?
[18:02] <leftyfb> Plof: it does not say it's scheduled for today
[18:03] <Plof> oh wow I misread the month lmao
[18:03] <Plof> so that is supposed to be another month lol
[18:03] <Plof> interesting
[18:04] <oerheks> july JULY ...
[18:16] <adrian_1908> I have a question regarding apt. Does something like `--no-install-recommends` also exist for when one wants to reject specific package(s), but not all?
[18:18] <oerheks> adrian_1908, only the needed core packages will be installed, this option is often used with a desktop install
[18:19] <nacc> adrian_1908: what do you mean by "reject" specific packages?
[18:19] <adrian_1908> I found a direct answer I think: https://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies#answer-663803
[18:20] <adrian_1908> nacc: for instance, install `mpv` and all that comes with it, but not `youtube-dl` which is not necessary unless the feature is used.
[18:20] <nacc> adrian_1908: ... well that would just as easily come with --no-install-recommends
[18:21] <nacc> adrian_1908: yes you can do what you are suggesting, but i think it won't work for actual dependencies
[18:23] <oerheks> with --no-install-recommends only xdg-utils and youtube-dl would skip https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gHr4j9mHMP/
[18:23] <oerheks> is this worth it, i wonder
[18:23] <sruli> i need some help with my internet connectivity, i can login to the pc (ssh) but there is not outgoing connections, i cant even ping an external address, other machines on the network are working fine (all ubuntu-mate 16.04)
[18:25] <nacc> oerheks: right, and i'm pretty sure if you told it not install an actual dep, apt would error out
[18:25] <ph0n3> hello:)
[18:26] <oerheks> sruli, ssh in, as root? is networking available 'for all users'  ?
[18:27] <sruli> oerheks: i can ssh in (from external network) as any user, but inside there is only local connectivity
[18:27] <adrian_1908> oerheks: yeah, i wasn't aware of the scale of extra packages, now i know (will remember that command). I could have sworn it tried to install avahi-daemon as well, though I don't see it in that list.
[18:28] <sruli> oerheks: the other day i added it to a vlan so messed around with /etc/network/interfaces, but i now reverted all the config and i might get connectivity for few seconds after reboot, after that all fails
[18:29] <ph0n3> did anyone use riseup-vpn from the software center?
[18:30] <oerheks> oh right, you reinstalled networkmanager i read back
[18:30] <sruli> oerheks: yes i tried that too, what else can i try
[18:31] <oerheks> remove profile from network manager and set a new ?
[18:32] <oerheks> not sure what else is to be done
[18:32] <sruli> oerheks: tried that too (about 30 times)
[18:39] <sruli> oerheks: is there nothing but a reinstall?
[18:40] <oerheks> as it is a virtual networking thing, reboot the router too? that might be your hickup
[18:40] <oerheks> no clue what else..
[18:41] <sruli> oerheks: cant reboot router.. got about 15 public facing servers on it
[18:43] <oerheks> good luck then, sruli
[18:43] <sruli> oerheks: thanks
[18:43] <oerheks> no way to remove any lease?
[18:44] <sruli> oerheks: i already did that, i even set the lease for a different ip, no change... gonna try putting the interface in /etc/network/interfaces and see if i can connect like that
[19:01] <haruspiiii> re
[19:33] <Guest25169>  Hi, I am having a problem with efibootmgr running on command line in ubuntu 18.04. The application can't proceed when running it into a console. Does nothing and I can only close with with Ctrl+C. I am running it on Ubuntu 18.04. How can I fix this issue?
[19:55] <nacc> Guest25169: you are running it as root?
[19:55] <Guest25169> yes
[19:55] <Guest25169> I am on a HP Pavilion x360
[20:01] <EriC^> Guest25169: are you booted in uefi mode?
[20:01] <EriC^> try "ls /sys/firmware/efi"
[20:02] <Guest25169> one moment please
[20:02] <Guest25169> I'll take 5 minutes
[20:03] <EriC^> Guest25169: try running it with strace -o /tmp/log
[20:03] <EriC^> and upload /tmp/log to a pastebin
[20:05] <Guest25169> Thanks, I will try it in a couple of minutes and let you know
[20:10] <RSpliet> oerheks_, nacc: thanks.
[20:12] <RSpliet> oerheks_: That's precisely why I reported it ;-). As the bug report mentions, it involves avahi registering web printers that have otherwise been registered by cups. If I disable avahi, the printers stay but the problems disappear. The set-up is office like, not many home users will run into this
[20:13] <RSpliet> ubottu
[20:13] <RSpliet> oops
[20:13] <RSpliet> !universe
[20:15] <RobBurke> Tach zusammen. So halb related, aber ich wollte hier mal ob guter Erfahrungen fragen: Kennt sich hier wer mit dem Zugriff auf TP-Link Router aus? Ich  komm da nicht auf die Anmeldemaske. Zur Erklärung: Hier hängt ein TP-Link zwecks WLAN aufspannen annen KabelDeutschland-Modem. Theoretisch sollte ich auf den TPlink per 192.168.1.1 oder 192.168.0.254 kommen, doch da tut sich nichts. Das Modem sagt zudem dass der Router unter v192.16
[20:15] <RobBurke> 8.0.14 im Netz ist
[20:16] <RSpliet> nacc: Oh! I'm surprised to find gimp for Xenial in Universe.
[20:16] <RSpliet> However, I have a strong suspicion this is a gtk2.0+ bug, which does live in main.
[20:18] <RobBurke> sorry  guys, wrong channel
[20:19] <nacc> RSpliet: could be, not sure
[20:22] <Guest25169> EriC^ https://pastebin.com/MhsvwfQS
[20:25] <EriC^> Guest25169: can you pastebin "strace -o /tmp/log efibootmgr" ?
[20:25] <EriC^> (the /tmp/log)
[20:31] <Guest25169> EriC^ https://pastebin.com/gytrtsV7
[20:33] <Nordo> hi guys
[20:33] <Jonta> Nordo: Eyyy
[20:33] <Nordo> ay wassah
[20:33] <Jonta> Been wondering how your setup's going
[20:36] <Nordo> yeah its alright
[20:36] <Jonta> :)
[20:36] <Nordo> i think ill never use windows again]
[20:36] <Nordo> this is speedy thing
[20:36] <Nordo> snappy boi :)
[20:37] <Nordo> oh btw
[20:37] <Nordo> how do i uninstall LXDE completely?
[20:37] <Nordo> not just the meta package
[20:37] <oerheks> adding a desktop is fun, removing one is amazing
[20:38] <Nordo> lol
[20:38] <gigirock> Nordo, the meta is all
[20:39] <Nordo> sure? so there will be no leftovers and crap?
[20:39] <oerheks> apt clean & autoremove after next login helps
[20:40] <oerheks> but surely you can run into dependency issues
[20:40] <gigirock> Nordo, it depends , the LXDE was the main in installation ? like lubuntu ?
[20:41] <Nordo> no
[20:41] <Nordo> i installed it after installing ubuntu
[20:41] <Nordo> oh and
[20:41] <Nordo> ubuntu 18.04
[20:43] <oerheks> sudo apt remove --purge lxde* -d # -d dry run to see what happens
[20:44] <Nordo> whats the command with quotes?
[20:44] <EriC^> Guest25169: this is the line with the problem, not sure what it means though read(3, 0x7ffec24b828c, 4)              = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call)
[20:44] <oerheks> what quotes?
[20:44] <Nordo> insert " in the beginning and in the end
[20:44] <Nordo> so i know the command exactly
[20:45] <mac`> hello i am having issues with dpkg https://pastebin.com/JwsP6JFF
[20:45] <oerheks> you can use the whole line, all after # will be ignored
[20:47] <Guest25169> EriC^ how shall I proceed then?
[20:47] <EriC^> Guest25169: try joining ##linux and asking there
[20:47] <Guest25169> Thanks :)
[20:51] <Nordo> aye oerheks
[20:52] <Nordo> whats the command again? sorry for annoying
[20:52] <ppf> Nordo: scroll up?
[20:52] <Nordo> well my internet died and the page refreshed automatically
[20:52] <gigirock> lol
[20:52] <ppf> sudo apt remove --purge lxde* -d # -d dry run to see what happens
[20:53] <oerheks> or maybe --dry-run
[20:54] <Nordo> sudo apt remove --purge lxde* -d # -d dry run?
[20:54] <Nordo> okay
[20:55] <Nordo> i get this: Package 'lxde' is not installed, so not removed.
[20:55] <Nordo> this is impossible
[20:56] <Nordo> The following packages will be REMOVED:   lxde-common* lxde-core* openbox-lxde-session*
[21:03] <gigirock> schools out and everyone try to destroy the pc ?
[21:04] <deskwizard> hell I hope not, having enough trouble to keep it running as it is :P
[21:12] <BrokenTrackpad> While replacing my laptop keyboard, I damaged the cable for it and the trackpad on my laptop. Now my syslog is being flooded with the kernel trying to connect to them then failing. I tried a fresh install but that didn't help. I'm thinking I will need to disable them somehow but I at least want to reduce the logging verbosity so I don't wear out my SSD in a week. I'm looking for suggestions or advice. /msg me and I'll send you a copy
[21:12] <BrokenTrackpad> of the loop showing up in my syslog.
[21:14] <ppf> can't you disable the trackpad in bios
[21:17] <BrokenTrackpad> @ppf Looking into it now but not that I'm aware of. Its a MacBook Pro, unfortunately.
[21:18] <oerheks> buy new laptop
[21:19] <BrokenTrackpad> @oerheks Good advice but I like to collect garbage and try to put it to good use.
[21:19] <gigirock> remove the trackpad kext
[21:20] <robuntu> Hi all
[21:20] <robuntu> Installing Ubuntu here in Virtual Box
[21:21] <BrokenTrackpad> @gigirock Can I do that from linux or do I need an OSX installation?
[21:21] <robuntu> but couldn't specify which file system I preferred... I would like to use zfs, instead of ext4, that comes by default, during installation
[21:22] <gigirock> tr
[21:22] <nacc> robuntu: requires some manual work
[21:22] <gigirock> robuntu, you can do what you want
[21:22] <nacc> robuntu: google the zfsonlinux github page, iirc
[21:23] <nacc> robuntu: if you mean for /
[21:23] <robuntu> oh, so it is not automatized process, nacc, using zfs in ubuntu
[21:23] <nacc> robuntu: for non-/ it is
[21:23] <robuntu> fine, gigirock
[21:24] <gigirock> robuntu, zfs is like a pain in the ass ext4 is here to stay
[21:24] <robuntu> just a question: does zfs run natively in ubuntu, in the kernel linux (in other linux distros, it is not possible) or does it  require dkms ?
[21:25] <robuntu> terrible situation, gigirock a pain in ass trying to install ubuntu with zfs
[21:25] <oerheks> due to license, AFAIK
[21:26] <nacc> robuntu: i believe it is fully supported in ubuntu, no dkms
[21:26] <ppf> robuntu: yes it's natively supported
[21:26] <robuntu> something absolutely intuitive and fast in FreeBSD, due to license FreeBSD Project uses, instead of gpl
[21:26] <nacc> robuntu: please stick to support topics.
[21:26] <robuntu> it is part of technical comments, nacc....
[21:27] <nacc> robuntu: not relevant here, sorry.
[21:27] <ppf> robuntu: we have btrfs which is simply btr
[21:27] <robuntu> please, ppf, how does it run natively in ubuntu ?
[21:27] <nacc> robuntu: zfs is supported "natively" in Ubuntu kernels.
[21:27] <robuntu> not relevant for you nacc....
[21:27] <nacc> robuntu: what is your actual question?
[21:27] <nacc> robuntu: the kernel module is built with others in the ubuntu kernel source.
 please, ppf, how does it run natively in ubuntu ? >> zfsonlinux github
[21:28] <robuntu> please, nacc, my doubts were already answered by your and ppf
[21:28] <robuntu> yeah, ppf, I use btrfs in debian, tried to do the same in ubuntu now
[21:29] <robuntu> but it is a graphical installation and there wasn't this option
[21:29] <robuntu> at least using this installation modality
[21:29] <robuntu> I'll repeat the process more twice
[21:30] <oerheks> this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS links to https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu
[21:30] <robuntu> thanks, oerheks
[21:31] <oerheks> i would not use zfs, as a vitualbox filesystem
[21:31] <oerheks> *hips*
[21:31] <nacc> oerheks: does feel like possibly a misunderstanding of what zfs is for :/
[21:31] <robuntu> just installing a elementary ubuntu test environment here, oerheks
[21:32] <robuntu> you are wrong if commenting about me, nacc.... I know what is zfs
[21:32] <robuntu> and more than you can imagine, by the way
[21:32] <oerheks> oh, elementary .. good luck, it has its own issues and support channel
[21:33] <robuntu> well, if you didn't understand that, sorry, oerheks, just forget about it....
[21:43] <robuntu> oerheks: grow up....
[21:50] <oerheks> 'restart now'
[21:53] <gigirock1> !info eclipse
[22:17] <Avanthas> hello everyone, I'm doing a fresh install of Ubuntu 18.04 on my desktop, but after several minutes formating the target disk, I'm not really sure what is going on
[22:17] <Avanthas> is there any way to open a terminal on that step?
[22:20] <Avanthas> nvm, I've switched tty
[22:35] <edgar> hi, someone know how update snap
[22:37] <oerheks> snaps update themselves, but you can run snap refresh
[22:37] <oerheks> or snap refresh  <package>
[22:38] <edgar> oerheks, thans
[22:38] <oerheks> edgar, have fun!
[22:39] <edgar> oerheks, i am looking in the command but I don´t find that
[22:41] <edgar> oerheks, good time, thanks for your answer
[22:41] <oerheks> https://docs.snapcraft.io/core/usage for a start
[22:45] <Farrell> Hello, can anybody help me with iptables please?
[23:05] <eyeoh> hmm keyserver back up
[23:05] <eyeoh> not sure what was blocking me
[23:09] <davelang68> #shotwell
[23:14] <hackinghorn> my ubuntu hangs on boot
[23:14] <hackinghorn> I think it just cant load the GUI
[23:15] <hackinghorn> can I run gnome from X somewhere?
[23:16] <newuser19998> hi, trying to install ubuntu and im having a problem where its not detecting which drive is my boot drive properly and wants to install the OS on another drive or something? how do i fix it so it installs to my ssd and detects my windows thats on my SSD and correctly installs so it doesnt break windows?
[23:24] <k0leo> hi , how can i find a word from strings all files on a diroctry in 1 command ?
[23:29] <oerheks> grep  "whatever" .
[23:29] <oerheks> grep -R "whatever" .  # gives all sub folders too
[23:30] <qwebirc41397> hi, new to ubuntu, my pc is rebooting randomly, no loading screen, 10 passes with memtest86 0 errors, lm-sensors temps good, an logs that might tell me something?
[23:30] <qwebirc41397> *any logs the might tell me something?
[23:33] <newuser99998> can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu wants to install on the wrong drive and wont let me choose a different one?
[23:36] <guiverc_t> qwebirc41397, no idea; have you looked?  journalctl? or other?
[23:40] <newuser99998> guess nobody can help :(
[23:42] <Bashing-om> newuser99998: Tell what setup you performed if any ,, and the install mode employed .
[23:42] <qwebirc31484> hi guiverc_t, I dont have a clue about logs in general so I thought I'd check here to see which ones to check
[23:43] <qwebirc31484> guiverc_t, I'll check the one suggested, my pc rebooted again andi've lost the chat, could tell me the one you suggested again plz?
[23:44] <guiverc_t> i mentioned journalctl - probably because that's where I'd check:  it's one that doesn't restart on reboot :)  (also shows time/date in human format)
[23:44] <qwebirc31484> cheers
[23:45] <guiverc_t> qwebirc31484, i'd be likely to blame hardware; open box up & do cap. check etc... (though this is hardware & not ubuntu related)
[23:54] <dpereir_> Hello guys.My bios does not save settings.I believe it was due to the 4.13 kernel, however I upgraded to version 4.15.0-23 and the error continues.Does anyone know how to fix this?
[23:55] <compdoc> which bios?
[23:57] <dpereir_> insyde h20