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xubuntu73dhi all12:20
diogenes_hi12:21
xubuntu73dI am new to IRC, been stuck on Ubuntu 12.04 since it came out and I am thinking of changing the distro to Xubuntu, any thoughts?12:22
diogenes_xubuntu73d, XD omg you still on 12.04?12:23
xubuntu73dCan't update it any more plus I read that i386 architecture would no longer be supported after 14 (if I am not mistaken)12:23
xubuntu73d@Diogenes, IKR!!12:23
xubuntu73dWell the machine was packed up for too long, by the time I decided to open it, the updates had overtaken me. figured its a lot less painful to try a different flavour12:24
diogenes_xubuntu73d, well current xubuntu has both 32/64 bit so it should be working fine, one thing you could do is to make a dual boot, your current 12.04 and the newest one and see the difference.12:25
xubuntu73dLet me try that thank you12:26
pmjdebruijnI wonder why anybody would need 32bit support these days though12:48
diogenes_pmjdebruijn, one quick thing that comes to mind is to support older printers/scanners that need 32 bit sane and other stuff12:50
pmjdebruijnoh eeek12:51
pmjdebruijngood point12:51
pmjdebruijnI might be faced with that myself actually :)12:51
diogenes_yeah12:51
Spasssomething is wrong with 'tumblerd' process on my 18.04, it takes 4,4GB of RAM atm, closing Thunar (where I had some video files and image files, but not many) didn't help14:27
Spassok, after some time that process closed itself, but still, 4,4GB was a bit much, something must be wrong there, any hints?14:29
SpassI wasn't doing much, just downloaded couple wallpapers and I'm downloading MP4 videos, 3 files were in the process of downloading (not completed), I've opened my Downloads folder and the thumbnails appeared on those unfinished files, maybe that caused this issue somehow?14:34
diogenes_Spass, file manager preferences > Display > Show thumbnails is it set to local files only?14:35
Spassdiogenes_, yup, and I think I had similar problem with tumblerd before (iirc not on this machine), some kind of memory leak14:37
Spassagain, opened Thunar / Downloads and tumblerd RAM usage keeps rising, now it's 2,8GB :/14:45
Spassnasty14:45
Spassand... 28% CPU14:46
Spasswell, seems like it's a very old bug, this is a post from 2014 - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/other/tumblerd-max-cpu-high-temperature/14:51
Spassand I'm doing exactly that, I'm downloading some MP4 video files and my Downloads folder is open14:52
Spassand that bug is older than that post - 2012 or even earlier, that's sad14:54
diogenes_weird i've never had that bug on any of my machines14:55
Spassseems like it's quite easy to reproduce, tumblerd just constantly tries to check that downloading file(s) if it changed and recreate a thumbnail for it14:57
Spasswell, since this bug is that old and it's not fixed I assume it's really hard to do or nobody is developing tumblerd anymore14:59
Spassbut at least I know now how to avoid this issue15:00
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Spassdiogenes_, if you're really interested I could send you a link what videos I'm downloading so you can check it yourself15:03
Spassbut I don't think its necessary, duckduckgo says that I'm not the only one, unfortunately...15:03
diogenes_Spass, ok let's see, what video?15:07
Spassdiogenes_, download for example 3 MP4 files from here - https://archive.org/download/diggnation15:13
diogenes_Spass, funny thing, i've just made tumbler to work a bit, it raised up to 144 MB but when it stopped the thumbnail stuff it didn't clean the memory15:13
Spassand have downloads folder opened in Thunar15:13
diogenes_downloading diggnation---002--snowboarding--large.xvid.mp415:15
diogenes_hehe is says it's 17.8M on the page but in real it's 53 MB15:16
Spasschoose another file, that one is small15:16
Spassthere are some 400-500MB MP4 there15:17
diogenes_well with this small file in got tumblerd using 110 MB memory and average of 4% CPU15:18
diogenes_a larger file i can try tomorrow at work but i don't think it will make a huge difference, we'll see15:18
Spassif you really want to test that, I'm downloading three 450MB files at once15:20
Spassanyway, no reason to bring that old bug here I guess, I'll just remember to not have opened folder while downloading15:21
Spasshttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225916:11
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 12259 in General "tumblerd uses a lot of CPU and RAM" [Normal,New]16:11
Spassif someone is interested, I've added more info to the bug report above, you can't recreate it with Firefox for example17:07
ph0n3hello:)18:27
ph0n3does anyone know any new budget friendly laptop that goes well with xubuntu?18:28
diogenes_some dell, hp but older series18:29
ph0n3im looking for someting 15-17 inch and easy to get like on amazon18:31
diogenes_look for system7618:33
ph0n3theyre looking great but im looking for sth a little cheaper18:35
diogenes_dell, hp 2013-1718:36
ph0n3thx I might stick with hp using hp stream now and everything works on xubuntu18:37
diogenes_even 2012 sandy bridge i7 are cool18:37
ph0n3I will take a deepr look into that thx18:39
diogenes_yw18:39
ph0n3xubuntu is my fav distro18:41
ph0n3works great on hp stream 1118:42
diogenes_ph0n3, you're right, it's best :)18:42
ph0n3exactly its the best:)18:43
ph0n3I was courious did  you use maybe riseup vpn from the app store?18:43
ph0n3i mean software center18:43
diogenes_i don't use any vpn18:44
ph0n3ok18:45
ph0n3thx for the talk18:46
diogenes_no problem18:46

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