[12:20] hi all [12:21] hi [12:22] I am new to IRC, been stuck on Ubuntu 12.04 since it came out and I am thinking of changing the distro to Xubuntu, any thoughts? [12:23] xubuntu73d, XD omg you still on 12.04? [12:23] Can't update it any more plus I read that i386 architecture would no longer be supported after 14 (if I am not mistaken) [12:23] @Diogenes, IKR!! [12:24] Well the machine was packed up for too long, by the time I decided to open it, the updates had overtaken me. figured its a lot less painful to try a different flavour [12:25] xubuntu73d, well current xubuntu has both 32/64 bit so it should be working fine, one thing you could do is to make a dual boot, your current 12.04 and the newest one and see the difference. [12:26] Let me try that thank you [12:48] I wonder why anybody would need 32bit support these days though [12:50] pmjdebruijn, one quick thing that comes to mind is to support older printers/scanners that need 32 bit sane and other stuff [12:51] oh eeek [12:51] good point [12:51] I might be faced with that myself actually :) [12:51] yeah [14:27] something is wrong with 'tumblerd' process on my 18.04, it takes 4,4GB of RAM atm, closing Thunar (where I had some video files and image files, but not many) didn't help [14:29] ok, after some time that process closed itself, but still, 4,4GB was a bit much, something must be wrong there, any hints? [14:34] I wasn't doing much, just downloaded couple wallpapers and I'm downloading MP4 videos, 3 files were in the process of downloading (not completed), I've opened my Downloads folder and the thumbnails appeared on those unfinished files, maybe that caused this issue somehow? [14:35] Spass, file manager preferences > Display > Show thumbnails is it set to local files only? [14:37] diogenes_, yup, and I think I had similar problem with tumblerd before (iirc not on this machine), some kind of memory leak [14:45] again, opened Thunar / Downloads and tumblerd RAM usage keeps rising, now it's 2,8GB :/ [14:45] nasty [14:46] and... 28% CPU [14:51] well, seems like it's a very old bug, this is a post from 2014 - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/other/tumblerd-max-cpu-high-temperature/ [14:52] and I'm doing exactly that, I'm downloading some MP4 video files and my Downloads folder is open [14:54] and that bug is older than that post - 2012 or even earlier, that's sad [14:55] weird i've never had that bug on any of my machines [14:57] seems like it's quite easy to reproduce, tumblerd just constantly tries to check that downloading file(s) if it changed and recreate a thumbnail for it [14:59] well, since this bug is that old and it's not fixed I assume it's really hard to do or nobody is developing tumblerd anymore [15:00] but at least I know now how to avoid this issue === havenstance1 is now known as havenstance [15:03] diogenes_, if you're really interested I could send you a link what videos I'm downloading so you can check it yourself [15:03] but I don't think its necessary, duckduckgo says that I'm not the only one, unfortunately... [15:07] Spass, ok let's see, what video? [15:13] diogenes_, download for example 3 MP4 files from here - https://archive.org/download/diggnation [15:13] Spass, funny thing, i've just made tumbler to work a bit, it raised up to 144 MB but when it stopped the thumbnail stuff it didn't clean the memory [15:13] and have downloads folder opened in Thunar [15:15] downloading diggnation---002--snowboarding--large.xvid.mp4 [15:16] hehe is says it's 17.8M on the page but in real it's 53 MB [15:16] choose another file, that one is small [15:17] there are some 400-500MB MP4 there [15:18] well with this small file in got tumblerd using 110 MB memory and average of 4% CPU [15:18] a larger file i can try tomorrow at work but i don't think it will make a huge difference, we'll see [15:20] if you really want to test that, I'm downloading three 450MB files at once [15:21] anyway, no reason to bring that old bug here I guess, I'll just remember to not have opened folder while downloading [16:11] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12259 [16:11] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 12259 in General "tumblerd uses a lot of CPU and RAM" [Normal,New] [17:07] if someone is interested, I've added more info to the bug report above, you can't recreate it with Firefox for example [18:27] hello:) [18:28] does anyone know any new budget friendly laptop that goes well with xubuntu? [18:29] some dell, hp but older series [18:31] im looking for someting 15-17 inch and easy to get like on amazon [18:33] look for system76 [18:35] theyre looking great but im looking for sth a little cheaper [18:36] dell, hp 2013-17 [18:37] thx I might stick with hp using hp stream now and everything works on xubuntu [18:37] even 2012 sandy bridge i7 are cool [18:39] I will take a deepr look into that thx [18:39] yw [18:41] xubuntu is my fav distro [18:42] works great on hp stream 11 [18:42] ph0n3, you're right, it's best :) [18:43] exactly its the best:) [18:43] I was courious did you use maybe riseup vpn from the app store? [18:43] i mean software center [18:44] i don't use any vpn [18:45] ok [18:46] thx for the talk [18:46] no problem