[12:20] <xubuntu73d> hi all
[12:21] <diogenes_> hi
[12:22] <xubuntu73d> I am new to IRC, been stuck on Ubuntu 12.04 since it came out and I am thinking of changing the distro to Xubuntu, any thoughts?
[12:23] <diogenes_> xubuntu73d, XD omg you still on 12.04?
[12:23] <xubuntu73d> Can't update it any more plus I read that i386 architecture would no longer be supported after 14 (if I am not mistaken)
[12:23] <xubuntu73d> @Diogenes, IKR!!
[12:24] <xubuntu73d> Well the machine was packed up for too long, by the time I decided to open it, the updates had overtaken me. figured its a lot less painful to try a different flavour
[12:25] <diogenes_> xubuntu73d, well current xubuntu has both 32/64 bit so it should be working fine, one thing you could do is to make a dual boot, your current 12.04 and the newest one and see the difference.
[12:26] <xubuntu73d> Let me try that thank you
[12:48] <pmjdebruijn> I wonder why anybody would need 32bit support these days though
[12:50] <diogenes_> pmjdebruijn, one quick thing that comes to mind is to support older printers/scanners that need 32 bit sane and other stuff
[12:51] <pmjdebruijn> oh eeek
[12:51] <pmjdebruijn> good point
[12:51] <pmjdebruijn> I might be faced with that myself actually :)
[12:51] <diogenes_> yeah
[14:27] <Spass> something is wrong with 'tumblerd' process on my 18.04, it takes 4,4GB of RAM atm, closing Thunar (where I had some video files and image files, but not many) didn't help
[14:29] <Spass> ok, after some time that process closed itself, but still, 4,4GB was a bit much, something must be wrong there, any hints?
[14:34] <Spass> I wasn't doing much, just downloaded couple wallpapers and I'm downloading MP4 videos, 3 files were in the process of downloading (not completed), I've opened my Downloads folder and the thumbnails appeared on those unfinished files, maybe that caused this issue somehow?
[14:35] <diogenes_> Spass, file manager preferences > Display > Show thumbnails is it set to local files only?
[14:37] <Spass> diogenes_, yup, and I think I had similar problem with tumblerd before (iirc not on this machine), some kind of memory leak
[14:45] <Spass> again, opened Thunar / Downloads and tumblerd RAM usage keeps rising, now it's 2,8GB :/
[14:45] <Spass> nasty
[14:46] <Spass> and... 28% CPU
[14:51] <Spass> well, seems like it's a very old bug, this is a post from 2014 - https://www.linuxliteos.com/forums/other/tumblerd-max-cpu-high-temperature/
[14:52] <Spass> and I'm doing exactly that, I'm downloading some MP4 video files and my Downloads folder is open
[14:54] <Spass> and that bug is older than that post - 2012 or even earlier, that's sad
[14:55] <diogenes_> weird i've never had that bug on any of my machines
[14:57] <Spass> seems like it's quite easy to reproduce, tumblerd just constantly tries to check that downloading file(s) if it changed and recreate a thumbnail for it
[14:59] <Spass> well, since this bug is that old and it's not fixed I assume it's really hard to do or nobody is developing tumblerd anymore
[15:00] <Spass> but at least I know now how to avoid this issue
[15:03] <Spass> diogenes_, if you're really interested I could send you a link what videos I'm downloading so you can check it yourself
[15:03] <Spass> but I don't think its necessary, duckduckgo says that I'm not the only one, unfortunately...
[15:07] <diogenes_> Spass, ok let's see, what video?
[15:13] <Spass> diogenes_, download for example 3 MP4 files from here - https://archive.org/download/diggnation
[15:13] <diogenes_> Spass, funny thing, i've just made tumbler to work a bit, it raised up to 144 MB but when it stopped the thumbnail stuff it didn't clean the memory
[15:13] <Spass> and have downloads folder opened in Thunar
[15:15] <diogenes_> downloading diggnation---002--snowboarding--large.xvid.mp4
[15:16] <diogenes_> hehe is says it's 17.8M on the page but in real it's 53 MB
[15:16] <Spass> choose another file, that one is small
[15:17] <Spass> there are some 400-500MB MP4 there
[15:18] <diogenes_> well with this small file in got tumblerd using 110 MB memory and average of 4% CPU
[15:18] <diogenes_> a larger file i can try tomorrow at work but i don't think it will make a huge difference, we'll see
[15:20] <Spass> if you really want to test that, I'm downloading three 450MB files at once
[15:21] <Spass> anyway, no reason to bring that old bug here I guess, I'll just remember to not have opened folder while downloading
[16:11] <Spass> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12259
[17:07] <Spass> if someone is interested, I've added more info to the bug report above, you can't recreate it with Firefox for example
[18:27] <ph0n3> hello:)
[18:28] <ph0n3> does anyone know any new budget friendly laptop that goes well with xubuntu?
[18:29] <diogenes_> some dell, hp but older series
[18:31] <ph0n3> im looking for someting 15-17 inch and easy to get like on amazon
[18:33] <diogenes_> look for system76
[18:35] <ph0n3> theyre looking great but im looking for sth a little cheaper
[18:36] <diogenes_> dell, hp 2013-17
[18:37] <ph0n3> thx I might stick with hp using hp stream now and everything works on xubuntu
[18:37] <diogenes_> even 2012 sandy bridge i7 are cool
[18:39] <ph0n3> I will take a deepr look into that thx
[18:39] <diogenes_> yw
[18:41] <ph0n3> xubuntu is my fav distro
[18:42] <ph0n3> works great on hp stream 11
[18:42] <diogenes_> ph0n3, you're right, it's best :)
[18:43] <ph0n3> exactly its the best:)
[18:43] <ph0n3> I was courious did  you use maybe riseup vpn from the app store?
[18:43] <ph0n3> i mean software center
[18:44] <diogenes_> i don't use any vpn
[18:45] <ph0n3> ok
[18:46] <ph0n3> thx for the talk
[18:46] <diogenes_> no problem