[06:47] <Huuhkaja> Hi all. Bit of a problem with my scanner. Samsung SL-C480W that is connected through my network. Installed official samsung drivers, print was just mess of a symbols, switched to PCL6 driver and printing works. scanimage -L doesn't find any scanners (not with default printer drivers set or this) unless i add my ip to xerox_mfp.conf. But this won't let me scan with xsane or simple scan. using scanimage with lineart mode does produce a sc
[06:47] <Huuhkaja> an but ofc not very good one. I've seen bug reports of this, but most of them was fixed with just installing the samsung official driver and that is not working for me.
[06:47] <Huuhkaja> Running simple scan from terminal and attempting to scan gives me "Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x00 0x00". I've also tried Live ubuntu from usb and installed the official samsung drivers there and the same thing.
[06:47] <Huuhkaja> i've also added rolfbensch/sane-git ppa and updated what it gave me, but that didn't help.
[06:50] <pmjdebruijn> is samsung blob driver intended for recent linux versions at all?
[06:50] <pmjdebruijn> usually they have a specific claim to what they support
[06:52] <Huuhkaja> no idea, it just says ubuntu at hp's support site where you get them. they are from sep1, 2017 though
[06:53] <Huuhkaja> nope, ./uninstall-scanner.sh and tried again, did the same thing
[06:56] <aliasd> hello, I am running 32 bit 16.04, and am trying to upgrade to 18.04... when I do a do-release-upgrade, it says "No New Relese Found" - is there some more correct way to upgrade? I am assuming there are still 32 bit packages available if the various flavours are still offering 32 bit Ubuntu?
[07:00] <pmjdebruijn> the upgrade path is possibly offered when 18.04.1 is released
[07:00] <pmjdebruijn> do-release-upgrade -d should work
[07:00] <pmjdebruijn> never tried it
[07:00] <pmjdebruijn> reinstall is usually faster than upgrading :)
[07:00] <pmjdebruijn> and more reliable :)
[07:01] <knome> yes, upgrades from LTS to LTS releases become "normally" available for users after the first point release of the target LTS
[07:01] <aliasd> ahh
[07:01] <pmjdebruijn> sounds like sensible policy
[07:01] <aliasd> thanks a heap :)
[07:01] <knome> one should have been released yesterday, but i'm pretty sure that didn't happen ... :)
[07:02] <knome> (or at least that was the release schedule)
[07:02] <knome> it will be sooner than later though, i'm sure
[07:02] <Unit193> knome: July was always what I heard.
[07:02] <knome> oh
[07:02] <knome> yes
[07:02] <knome> *july* 26th
[07:02]  * knome facepalms
[07:02] <knome> so one month...
[07:03] <Unit193> knome: You can always jump now, I did a while ago.
[07:03] <knome> i know
[07:03] <aliasd> I was worried I wouldn't be able to install 32 bit Ubuntu, so this is a great relief
[07:03] <aliasd> I understand not being able to upgrade LTS yet, that makes sense
[07:03] <pmjdebruijn> you are able
[07:03] <pmjdebruijn> you just need to forcibly opt-in
[07:03] <Unit193> Oh, pmjdebruijn?
[07:04] <pmjdebruijn> doesn't do-release-upgrade -d work just fine?
[07:04] <aliasd> my situation is I have a bunch of machines that have been upgraded since the first LTS, and it would be annoying to reinstall them all
[07:04] <aliasd> yes, -d works
[07:04] <pmjdebruijn> always reinstalling forces you to keep track of what you actually use
[07:04] <aliasd> but I don't need to install the devel version, I can wait until next month as long as it will work
[07:04] <pmjdebruijn> as opposed to just pulling the same crap along with your upgrade
[07:05] <pmjdebruijn> it's also a *MUCH* better habbit with regard to security
[07:05] <knome> (it's not development though, it's released but LTS->LTS upgrades aren't just supported yet)
[07:05] <knome> pmjdebruijn, please stop pressing - there are different needs and wants
[07:06] <aliasd> I have maintained these machinews since Breezy
[07:07] <aliasd> machines*
[07:08] <aliasd> honestly if I were to reinstall, I would be looking at straight Debian, but as long as upgrade is supported, they can stay Ubuntu
[07:09] <aliasd> I just CBF doing all the backups required to reinstall, and I know I should backup to upgrade anyway, but really, I have such a majorly reduced chance of losing the data that it is easier
[07:14] <pmjdebruijn> knome: yeah sorry... just trying to make folks think about their habbits :)
[07:15] <Unit193> Except some of us don't use defaults, so it would take far longer to re-install and set everything back up, than it would to upgrade and clean up the cruft along the way. :)
[07:21] <pmjdebruijn> I keep track of non-defaults I use, at least the important ones :)
[07:21] <pmjdebruijn> but that said, I try to stick to defaults as much I can :)
[07:22] <pmjdebruijn> but I know it's not a one size fits all :)
[07:24] <aliasd> i see your point pmjdebruijn, but I just don't think it works for my situation
[07:25] <pmjdebruijn> fair enough
[07:39] <knome> and tbh, in some situations (likely not this), upgrading can feel less intimidating than a fresh install too - even to the point that the latter feels impossible while the former is "within reach"
[07:43] <aliasd> I got into the habit of upgrading due to the way files are shared around the office.... there are nfs mounts going all sorts of places and no central server, it is a bit of a mess and probably should be changed entirely, but it all works, and replacing the system would be disruptive
[07:44] <Unit193> No offence meant, but I think I'd vote for disruptive in this case. :3
[07:45] <aliasd> heh not to mention each machine has a completely different software profile
[07:46] <pmjdebruijn> some folks might employ ansible even for workstations :D
[07:52] <pmjdebruijn> might be worth considering at some point, although it's a nontrivial investment to get setup
[08:02] <CyberShadow> Hello. How to connect to WiFi from the 18.04 live CD? There is no network icon, and NetworkManager isn't running, so NM UIs (e.g. nmtui) can't start.
[08:02] <CyberShadow> Drivers seem to be loaded, and the interface appears in "ip l".
[08:03] <pmjdebruijn> that rather odd
[08:03] <pmjdebruijn> check your 'dmesg', see if anything crashed or something
[08:03] <diogenes_> CyberShadow, run in terminal: nm-applet
[08:04] <CyberShadow> No output, no effect.
[08:04] <diogenes_> that's good, look on the panel the network icon should appear
[08:05] <CyberShadow> No.
[08:05] <CyberShadow> Oh, there's SQUASHFS errors in dmesg. That explains it, bad image or bad USB cable.
[08:05] <pmjdebruijn> *tada* :D
[08:05] <diogenes_> ohhh, yeah that's possible
[08:05] <CyberShadow> Surprising it booted all the way to a graphical desktop.
[08:05] <diogenes_> either iso or the usb itself
[08:05] <pmjdebruijn> the only thing worse that a horribly broken usb flash drive is a subtly broken usb flash drive :D
[08:13] <CyberShadow> Yep, the image I had on my drive was corrupt. Fixed it now with a torrent. Damn cosmic rays I guess...
[08:13] <diogenes_> hehe you live in Australia?
[08:14] <CyberShadow> No (luckily)
[08:19] <pmjdebruijn> diogenes_: lol, Australia is known for it's cosmic rays?
[08:19] <diogenes_> pmjdebruijn, for some kind of ultraviolet dangerous rays :)
[08:20] <pmjdebruijn> uv is hardly cosmic :D
[08:21] <aliasd> Australia is a myth
[08:21] <pmjdebruijn> it couldn't exist on this flat earth :)
[08:25] <aliasd> It's just, I live in Australia and over here, nobody has even heard of it
[10:32] <ph0n3> hi :)
[10:54] <xubuntu39d> hi
[10:54] <ph0n3> hi :)
[10:56] <ph0n3> hows it going?
[10:56] <xubuntu39d> i have a problem with the next: by synaptik packagemanager i see this: you do  not use /root/.synaptic/temp/temp-sh   ...how can i solve this?
[10:57] <ph0n3> hmm i dont have much knowladge maybe remove and install it again
[10:58] <xubuntu39d> i 'll try it. thanks
[10:58] <ph0n3> yw :)
[13:57] <n-iCe> México!!
[19:33] <xubuntu32i> hello
[19:35] <xubuntu32i> anyone here