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NaTeK:)00:00
oerheksi think so, maybe someone from the #ubuntu-kernel team could better answer that00:00
oerheksoh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FGeneralFindingDocumentation.Where_do_I_find_the_Kernel_Team.27s_documentation.3F00:01
hxmulleroerheks: I think I've discovered my answer. Apparently if you enable CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC when compiling the kernel, it stores the config in /proc/config.gz, which when read, gives the same comment about "Automatically generated file"00:06
bluegrass900Hi. I'm using Ubuntu MATE. In the top right corner at the left of my left-most icon on the panel I have a little green | just like that00:07
bluegrass900just a line like that that is green that doesn't seem to be for anything.00:07
bluegrass900It's there sometimes, not always.00:07
bluegrass900Is this some kind of spyware?00:08
bluegrass900Doesn't seem legitimate to me. All my other icons are white.00:08
bluegrass900This vertical line is green.00:08
hxmulleroerheks: scratch that, the kbuild system adds that comment. i just never noticed it before00:12
temnohi...I need help about UBUNTU installation00:17
temnoI tried all the instruction listed on the official website00:18
temnofor DVD and USB device but ....no way00:18
xch4d03thalo all00:19
temnoI'm using a MacBookPro  and I'd like to improve an old Acer extensa usin Windows XP00:19
temnowith UBINU system00:19
RandolfHello xch4d03t.00:19
illuminateddo you think l2tp or pptp vpns have more universal support --- from android/ios/windows/mac....00:21
illuminatedsorry which one is more universally supported on all the devices... pptp or l2tp00:22
temnohi there......00:23
RoadRunnercompiled pidgin 2.13.0 and would like to test video, but need someone to do it with - a volunteer needed (if shy just draw a happy face on paper in front of camera), thanks :)00:24
tomreyntemno: so you'd like to install ubuntu to the mac, or to the acer extensa, or both?00:24
temnoI'm downloading files from a Mac but I'd like to improve the ACER00:25
dellhello00:26
dellI cannot get Xbuntu working with HDMI00:26
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Guest10016I mean00:26
Guest10016Ubuntu with Xubuntu-desktop00:26
Guest10016Image works fine00:26
Guest10016But sound does not00:26
temnoI followed all the instructions from the official website for DVD ur USB device and I downloaded aps to do it but....no way00:26
Guest10016How to setup sound with xubuntu-desktop?00:27
xch4d03tgithub00:28
temnoI plug the USB or I insert the DVD with file ISO even if I chnged the priority on the BIOS but Windows XP starts again00:28
temno...00:30
temno...00:31
xch4d03thow to earm money in internet use ubuntu00:31
Bashing-omtemno: The downlded .iso fike has yo be burned as an "image00:33
Bashing-om" " to the install medium .00:34
temnoI did it00:34
Guest10016Can someone please help me with Xubuntu-desktop HDMI?00:34
temnoI really followed all the instructions on the official website00:34
Bashing-omtemno: then as bios does not "see" it .. does not have good boot code . either the .iso is corrupted or the burn is bad .00:35
Bashing-om!md5sum | temno00:35
ubottutemno: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM00:35
temnoOk...but I used even the USB00:35
temnoWhen I tried to do a CHECKSUM ....computer say... NO! :-)00:36
temnoI tried 6 times00:36
temnoThat's the reason why I'm explaining which machines I'm using00:37
tomreynGuest10016: i think this is only supported with a mainline kernel (if at all).00:38
tomreyn!mainline | Guest1001600:38
ubottuGuest10016: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds00:38
tomreyntemno: so when you created the bootable USB stick, how did you do it exactly, and were any errors reported during the process?00:39
temnoI feel like in 1997 in this chat !!!! Uffffff00:39
andy10134hi)?00:39
tomreynhi andy1013400:39
andy10134How are you? n.n00:40
tomreynandy10134: fine, thanks. do you have an ubuntu support question?00:40
temnoDear Tomreyn, I followed the instructions...It means that I've tried with TERMINAL.....I downloaded RosaImageWriter and other 3 software to move the ISO immage to USB device00:41
tomreyntemno:  which instructions did you follow there?00:41
* tomreyn never heard of "RosaImageWriter"00:42
temnoand finally I burned a DVD that I could not think I had in my home after 12 yeras!00:42
temno:-)00:42
temnoIn the italian version of the official website for UBUNTU00:43
temnothere are suggestion about using specific softwares to create an USB stick with the file ISO I already downloaded00:43
temnoIf you have suggestion please....tell me...I'll follow It00:44
swift110_hey all00:46
tomreyntemno: is thgis the tutorial you followed? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-macos#000:47
temnoYes....I tried even with this tutorial00:48
temnofor Eatcher00:48
temnoYES YES YES.......I'm going crazy00:49
temnoI changed 3 USB devices00:49
temnoI feel stupid!00:49
tomreyntemno: so when you tried with etcher, did etcher report that writing it succeeded?00:49
temnoYes00:49
temnoI put the USB stick in the old PC and WINDOWS XP starts again00:50
temnoThat's the reason why I can't find any explanation00:51
tomreyntemno: once you had the stick created on the mac, did you follow this tutorial to install on the acer? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#000:51
tomreyntemno: acer computers can have bios / uefi restrictions to only allow booting windows systems. also, there a generally bios / uefi settings which can prevent booting from usb, or from anything other than the primary storage (HDD). did you check your BIOS / UEFI thoroughly to make sure no such issues are getting in the way?00:53
temnoDear Tomreyn....I appreciate your efforts but this tutorial seems to be useful if the file ISO already starts......00:54
tomreyntemno: also, can you tell the exact model of the acer computer?00:54
tomreyntemno: not only, it also discusses system requirements.00:55
temnoASPIRE 5735200:55
temnoOld...but not so bad! :-)00:55
tomreynalso step #4 of the tutorial discusses how to boot off usb00:55
temnook..... I will try again.....Thank you very much for your time00:56
temnoThanks Tomreyn!00:57
tomreyntemno: i'm currently searching the web to see whether there are specific hints on how to install linux on this system.00:57
temnook00:57
tomreynfeel free to wait another 5 minutes or just try it again.00:57
stubuntuhello00:58
tomreyntemno: are you sure the model number is exactly "57352", since i can't find much with exactly this00:58
tomreynthere are some variants which start with "5735", though00:59
Bashing-omtemno: maybe Vendor lockin ?? See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2390593 for some aids.00:59
stubuntuI'm new to online chat, is my message being received01:00
Bashing-omstubuntu: 5X5 ,01:00
tomreynstubuntu: we can read you01:01
stubuntuI'm new to the lingo, what is 5x5 ?01:01
temno5735Z.......sorry01:01
temnoZED not 201:02
Bashing-omstubuntu: On a scale of 1-5 - load and clear  at the top of the scale :)01:02
stubuntuok thanx, is there a website where I can go to learn about online chatting and the lingo ?01:03
tomreynmaybe irchelp.org01:05
oerheksstubuntu, freenode website01:05
tomreynthis system has an intel pentium dual core T3200 CPU. seems to be 64-bit already, so you're lucky.01:05
tomreynhttps://ark.intel.com/products/37160/01:06
stubuntuok, I'll check those out.  Thanx for your help. Bye for now.01:06
temnobut......????01:06
oerheksmake sure hdd is set to AHCI, xp is known for not using that01:06
kofimornin01:07
tomreyntemno: latest bios is available at ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/Archiv/notebook/aspire_5735/vista/Bios/v1.10.zip01:08
temnoI should install the new BIOS on the old machine?01:09
oerheksan some bios versions, usb boot needs to set in 2 places, boot priority and hdd priority01:09
tomreyntemno: if this old system currently uses an older bios, it may be a good idea to install the latest bios version available to ensure compatibility.01:10
tomreynbios updates dont always make things better, but most of the time they do01:11
temnoOk....thank you very much...I really appreciate...I love you Tomreyn......! :-)01:11
temnoAh HA HA AH01:11
tomreyndont you love oerheks then?01:11
temnoI'll try tomorrow01:12
temnooerheks????01:12
tomreynthe other person who was just helping you, you know01:12
temnoI don't know what you are talking about01:12
tomreynanyways, good luck01:12
temnoBye01:13
temnoOh My God......I've been concentrated only about you!01:13
temno:-)01:13
temnoThanks to Oerheks too....01:14
oerhekslet us know :-)01:14
temnoI'm an idiot not able to use properly this OLD F......G way of comunication! :-)01:14
temnoBye guys....goodnight! In Rome is quite 4 am01:15
tomreynaspire 5735Z comes with an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M - good luck!01:21
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kofihey guys01:48
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root_hey02:19
RoadRunnercould someone help me test pidgin's video chat?02:21
Chicken_WrapRoadRunner: Do you need an account of any sort to video chat?02:23
Chicken_WrapProbably a dumbass question but I’ve never used Pidgin.02:23
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franzglhey03:18
franzglanyone there?03:19
striveHi.03:20
lotuspsychje!ask | franzgl03:21
ubottufranzgl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:21
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n35xdxb0anyone have any idea how to get ubuntu to mute after suspend?04:01
n35xdxb0would be nice if laptop automatically muted after it enters suspend04:01
lotuspsychjen35xdxb0: i think there is an existing bug for that, as users wanted to hear their music after suspend04:03
n35xdxb0lotuspsychje: hmm, interesting04:05
n35xdxb0for me it's the other way round. i close laptop. it suspends04:05
n35xdxb0then i open it in library or cafe or somewhere, and the sound blares out04:05
lotuspsychjen35xdxb0: on wich ubuntu release is this?04:07
lotuspsychjen35xdxb0: and what kind of sound is blaring out?04:14
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germmandHello. :)04:35
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neo1I install ubuntu server 18.04 on virtualbox but dont work networking! I have 2 ethernet enp0s3 & enp0s8 and virtual network configuration used from NAT and host-only (192.168.56.1)04:55
neo1networkctl status :04:56
neo1●        State: routable04:56
neo1       Address: 10.0.2.15 on enp0s304:56
neo1                192.168.56.101 on enp0s804:56
neo1                192.168.56.103 on enp0s804:56
neo1                fe80::a00:27ff:fe2a:ff66 on enp0s304:56
neo1                fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:c1c6 on enp0s804:56
neo1       Gateway: 192.168.56.1 on enp0s804:56
shahrokhI install ubuntu server 18.04 on virtualBox but dont working network. virtualbox netconfiguration is NAT and Hosy-only(192.168.56.1)05:03
shahrokhDo you have idea?05:07
subhamhey05:08
ktrlhi05:08
subhamwhat ar u doing?05:08
subham?05:09
ktrlnothing05:09
subhamfrom which u belong to?05:09
shahrokh I install ubuntu server 18.04 on virtualBox but dont working network. virtualbox netconfiguration is NAT and Hosy-only(192.168.56.1)05:09
ktrl16.0405:10
ktrlu?05:10
subhamfrom which country u belong to ? ktrl05:10
shahrokh!!!!!05:10
subham?05:11
subham?05:11
subham?05:12
subham?05:14
serb218.04 .Xauthority does not exist after update05:19
serb2need help05:19
subham?05:19
serb2after updating not showing login screen05:20
serb2if i login using cli , and type startx it will show error05:20
serb2.Xauthority does not exist05:20
subham?05:22
serb2any one knows how to fix this05:22
guiverc_tserb2, that file may be recreated automatically05:25
serb2no05:25
serb2is it possible to recreate manually05:25
serb2actually i can see the file05:25
guiverc_tserb2, refer http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/gdm3.8.html   (18.04 uses a variable; not the file in gdm3)05:27
serb2let me check thanks05:27
rangemongeris there a package that can test playback out of various audio devices? "front left" "front right" etc?05:52
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guiverc_trangemonger, you can test your main set of speakers I thought with gnome/unity using default tools  (I'm not using either, so can't look currently)06:03
rangemongerguiverc_t: do you know what package that is a part of? i built my ubuntu from a netinstall06:05
rangemongeralso lxinput doesnt seem to have any effect on the mouse settings at all06:07
guiverc_tsorry no, I don't use unity or gnome, and don't know how to pull up gnome-settings (when not using gnome) to work out..06:08
rangemongerits cool, thanks anyway06:08
guiverc_tfound what i was looking for; `gnome-control-center` and selecting 'test speakers' - but no idea as to package sorry06:09
rangemongerits ok, thanks for even checking that06:10
mojtabaHello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?06:10
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mojtabaHello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?06:35
ducassemojtaba: what do you mean, exactly?06:36
mojtabaducasse: I am backing up a disk and there are some shortcuts pointing to themselves.06:38
mojtabawhen you click on it, it infinitely goes back to the same place.06:38
mojtabaIt gives errors when I try to zip the whole directory.06:38
ducassesymlinks, you mean? pointing to the current directory?06:41
mojtabaducasse: yes. pointing to its path.06:41
mojtabaany idea?06:47
mojtabaHello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?06:47
eraserpencilIf during install, I did not seperate out my partitions. Am I still able to find out how much space my /boot WOULD have been?06:50
ducasseeraserpencil: you can see how much space it uses with 'du -sh /boot'06:52
eraserpencilthanks! if I dont have LVM, can I increase /boot ?06:53
EriC^^eraserpencil: sure it's just more involved06:55
ducasseyou can expand a partition if there is space, but it can be a little messy. i'm not sure /boot can be a logical volume either.06:55
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^06:55
EriC^^ideally you'd make it large enough to not have to grow it in size later06:55
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje06:55
eraserpencilwould you recommend that? or should I manually delete the files in /boot. As in delete vmlinux-xxx, initrd-xxx etc etc, starting with deleting the ones with the smallest number06:56
EriC^^eraserpencil: use the package manager to delete them06:56
lotuspsychjeeraserpencil: anu specific reason you wanna enlargen /boot?06:57
EriC^^sudo apt-get purge linux-image-........-generic and headers packages06:57
eraserpencilim in a loop where I cant purge because I dont have the linux-headers-generic, cant apt-get -f install because my boot is full06:57
EriC^^eraserpencil: erase the initrd to free some space then purge06:58
eraserpencilso i start with deleting the smallest numbers yea?06:58
EriC^^yeah, run "uname -r" and delete what you're not running06:59
nightw0lferaserpencil, yea I had the same thing, I deleted manually older kernels06:59
EriC^^smallest first06:59
eraserpencilthanks!06:59
EriC^^np06:59
lotuspsychje!kernelcleanup | eraserpencil as suggested06:59
ubottueraserpencil as suggested: For information about removing old kernels to free up space on /boot, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels06:59
nightw0lfafter I deleted one or two, I had enough space to purge using apt06:59
nightw0lfEriC^^, sorry for hijacking :D07:00
EriC^^np, yw :D07:00
ducasseyou don't need to delete manually, you can use dpkg -P to purge the package07:02
eraserpencilthanks guys! all works now.07:02
eraserpencilWasnt sure if I should keep or to expand07:03
eraserpencili mean delete or expand07:03
lotuspsychjeeraserpencil: to keep your system healthy, cleanup is needed time to time07:03
EriC^^you can run "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" every now and then to keep space there good07:04
mojtabaHello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?07:05
EriC^^mojtaba: self pointing like what?07:05
nightw0lferaserpencil, great!07:06
eraserpencilyea, unintentionally nuke my system and do fresh installs everytime. Either by careless dd or careless gdisk writing or careless rm07:07
mojtabaEriC^^:  self pointing symlinks.07:08
EriC^^mojtaba: you mean there's a bunch of softlinks in the dir pointing to it?07:08
EriC^^mojtaba: you mean they are softlinks?07:09
mojtabaEriC^^: I mean there are lots of softlinks pointing to themselves, and when I try to backup the directory. It just hangs.07:10
EriC^^mojtaba: can you give an example of one of their "ls -l" output?07:11
mojtabapath/users --> patth/users07:12
lotuspsychjemojtaba: screenshot or hastebin, to make it clear please07:12
EriC^^mojtaba: what happens if you do "readlink -f /path/to/softlink" ?07:14
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EriC^^mojtaba: try this cd /path/to/dir  then  find . -maxdepth 1 -type l | while IFS='' read -r bla; do if [[ "$(readlink -f "$bla")" == "$PWD" ]]; then echo rm "$bla"; fi; done ;07:15
mojtabaEriC^^: In nautilus, when I click on it, it just adds the name to the path and shows the directory I was in it. It continues infinitely.07:15
EriC^^test it a little then run it without the echo before rm07:16
Viking667I've got a weird problem... /bin seems to have gone missing from .profile or .bashrc. Where's that made part of the $PATH?07:19
EriC^^mojtaba: if it doesn't work, try "readlink -f softlink" and put whatever it gives instead of $PWD07:20
EriC^^Viking667: what does "echo $PATH" give?07:20
Viking667lots of bits, but /bin seems to be strangely missing.07:20
Viking667I've got /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin (archaic, I know) and several other paths too...07:21
EriC^^Viking667: what's in /etc/environment?07:21
Viking667I'll come back after I've done the dishes07:21
Viking667Ah, I'll go check that07:21
Viking667Here:  /etc/environment: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"07:22
Viking667That raises a question then, what sources /etc/environment?07:23
Viking667(again, back after some dishes)07:23
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mojtaba/media/mojtaba/Windows Vista_64/Users/Mojtaba/AppData/Local/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Applicati07:29
MrPatrickhi07:31
assiduuselo.07:31
MrPatrickyou from indonesia?07:31
assiduusnah, Europe. :)07:31
MrPatrickoh am from indonesia07:32
assiduusCool. :)07:32
MrPatrickquit07:33
assiduusTry /quit :)07:33
quxgyverHi. I'm getting "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgoocanvas3 (>= 0.15)" in Lubuntu 18.04 (LTS) when trying to install a package. I've tried following every instruction that I've found on Google - including installing a bunch of software and packages - to no avail. I've checked apt update and apt upgrade, and the only issue there is with Sublime Text 3. Everything else checks out.07:33
quxgyverAny help?07:33
ducassequxgyver: which package are you trying to install?07:34
assiduus(was gonna ask the same question)07:35
quxgyverInform707:35
quxgyverhttp://inform7.com/download/07:35
quxgyverBoth .debs have the same problem.07:35
ducasseok, then try asking where you got that package07:35
assiduusWow, it's an oldie.07:36
quxgyverducasse: What do you mean?07:36
assiduusquxgyver: this software seems to be abandoned since 2015.07:37
assiduusMaybe you can find something else that does the same thing.07:37
lotuspsychjequxgyver: we dont support external software/ppa's officially, we reccomend using packages from the ubuntu repos07:38
quxgyverassiduus: I don't think there are any other builds. :/07:38
lotuspsychjequxgyver: meaning, installing external software often result in scrambled system hence why we cant support07:38
ducassequxgyver: if you want to use that, you need to ask for an updated version that works on modern ubuntu07:38
quxgyverlotuspsychje: I'm more interested in what the message means, in plain english.07:39
quxgyverThat way I can maybe troubleshoot it myself.07:39
quxgyverducasse: I don't think there is any, unfortunately.07:39
lotuspsychjequxgyver: in plain english, your software is trying to install packages that doesnt match current ubuntu07:40
assiduusYou could try to look for libgoocanvas in the version apt-get wants.07:40
guiverc_tquxgyver, it says you need libgoocanvas3 - a search for it reveals (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgoocanvas3) ver =0.15 is available for trusty, =1.0 for xenial & artful but none yet for bionic (18.04)07:40
quxgyverlotuspsychje: In what way? Is it asking for an older version of an existing package, or for a nonexistent package to be installed?07:40
guiverc_tquxgyver, the link I provided also tells you it's in 'universe' ; or community supported; meaning no-one from the community has packaged/tested the lib for bionic(18.04)07:41
assiduusYou could virtualize Trusty and use the package that's avaiable in Ubuntu packages.07:42
guiverc_tquxgyver, note: i'm talking about your posted error (not sublime text 3 the others looked at... to aid your troubleshooting in future request)07:42
lotuspsychje!rootirc | sdfgsd07:43
ubottusdfgsd: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.07:43
assiduusMaybe he's on Windows using root as his username. :P07:43
quxgyverguiverc_t: Even if the package hasn't been tested, is there any harm in installing it? I mean, applications wouldn't use it anyway, right?07:44
assiduusYeah, yeah. I know it's a bot. ;)07:44
quxgyverAside from Inform707:44
assiduusYou could also build libgoocanvas3 from source.07:45
assiduusInstead of waiting for someone else to do it for bionic. :)07:45
lotuspsychjequxgyver: i would reccomend looking for a package that does the same as inform7, in the official repos07:45
quxgyverlotuspsychje: I don't think there is any.07:46
lotuspsychjequxgyver: how are you so sure? what does it do exactly?07:46
guiverc_tquxgyver, that's I think off-topic here, but you've have to meet its requirements which are viewed by looking at (https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/libgoocanvas3  for the 17.10 version) and then check they don't compete/clash with other packages etc... ie. homework to ensure you don't end up in dependency-hell.. if you do your homework you're okay; but it's not for newbies & could make your system unstable!)07:46
quxgyverlotuspsychje: It's an IDE for writing interactive fiction games.07:47
Viking667okay, I'm back.07:47
quxgyverlotuspsychje: I've already tried searching for Inform-related packages, but they seem to only fulfill certain aspects of what the IDE does07:48
quxgyverguiverc_t: So you're saying that if you install a package that is incompatible with your system, it actually can be dangerous?07:48
quxgyverCus I thought that installing an unneeded package was fine07:49
quxgyveras long as it's not used by any critical software07:49
quxgyverin this case it's just a game development IDE that'd be using it, so I assumed that it wouldn't be an issue07:49
lotuspsychjequxgyver: yes, we dont reccomend mixing package version across different ubuntu versions07:49
Viking667So. /bin doesn't appear to be part of my $PATH, even though it's present in /etc/environment. what should I prod to get it to work right?07:50
lotuspsychjequxgyver: you could consider build an ubuntu version, where its still supported?07:50
quxgyverlotuspsychje: That's way beyond my skill level.07:51
quxgyverI guess this is a lost cause.07:51
guiverc_tquxgyver, i'd not call it dangerous - it's can be fun to fix messes :)  but its not really for newbies.. it may require a re-install because of instability... thus not recommended and the ~off-topic nature of it... if you do your homework (2nd page took you to 9 packages to check...) you're fine... apt will do this check, but you need to know the consequences .... be prepared for need to re-install if you make mistakes (don't do enough07:51
guiverc_thomework or make mistake etc)07:51
quxgyverBut, thanks for taking the time to help. I appreciate it.07:51
assiduusquxgyver: as I already said. Use virtualbox to install Trusty and use the official package.07:52
lotuspsychjequxgyver: yeah or physical install ^07:52
quxgyverI can't. Partly because this is a very low spec PC, and partly because I had such an issue getting *buntu installed due to various unintelligible errors that I don't really want to mess with the system again.07:53
quxgyverBut it's fine. I'll live.07:54
lotuspsychjequxgyver: see also tads3 as inform7 alternate07:54
assiduusViking667: add /bin to your PATH environment variable (export PATH=$PATH:/bin).07:54
quxgyverlotuspsychje: Appreciate the suggestion/effort, but I already have an ongoing IF7 project.07:55
quxgyverI just wanted to be able to work on it on my Linux PC. :-)07:55
Viking667assiduus: while that might work, I'm puzzled why it's not there to begin with.07:55
quxgyverBut it's fine! Appreciate the help.07:55
assiduusYeah. It is weird.07:55
assiduusAdd it (export) to your .bash_profile and that's it. ;)07:56
assiduusAlthough it should have been in your PATH already.07:56
Viking667you beat me to it.07:56
assiduus:)07:56
Viking667So. Where do I put it so it's in every user's PATH?07:57
Viking667actually, I should ask why it's not in THIS user's path specifically.07:57
assiduus /etc/profile if I'm not mistaken.07:57
Viking667I'll check that again.07:57
assiduusHe or she must have messed with the PATH variable directly on indirectly (that software they used did it).07:58
assiduus*the07:58
Viking667hm. /bin isn't mentioned in /etc/profile, or /etc/bash.bashrc for that matter. I'm checking through /etc/profile.d/* at the moment07:59
Viking667now that IS weird. It's not there either.07:59
assiduusPATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin"07:59
assiduusthis is default PATH on bionic.08:00
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PhoenyxCullenquit08:00
assiduusok. Gone for now...08:01
assiduusCya.08:01
Viking667weird. It's not in Fedora either08:02
Viking667... except in /etc/environment, I suspect08:02
Viking667nope, not there.08:02
TvL2386_hey guys, I'm having an ubuntu-18.04 desktop with VirtualBox installed. I have a 18.04 VM installed using `vagrant init ubuntu/bionic64 && vagrant up` and it boots soooooooo sloooooow.... I think it's the tty console lag or something08:03
TvL2386_an ubuntu 16.04 vm starts in about 8 seconds08:03
TvL2386_18.04 takes 50 seconds08:03
Viking667TvL2386_: so what services are starting in each VM then?08:04
TvL2386_Viking667: well, the first 23 seconds of booting the 18.04 VM is kernel output, so I concluded it must be console slowness08:05
TvL2386_hmmm... my old 16.04 vms boot fast, a newly created 16.04 vm has the same lag... I think virtualbox or vagrant has changed some defaults, I'll compare settings08:09
guiverc_tquxgyver, just had a thought - did you look for a snap packaged version of whatever you were looking for (snaps don't have the 'dep-hell' issues i was talking about)08:14
Triffid_HunterTvL2386_: could be presence/absence of suitable fbconsole driver? the fallback vesa one is terribly slow.. does it still boot slow after you install virtualbox guest drivers?08:20
lotuspsychjeTvL2386_: 18.04 is slow booting systemd, several bugs on it08:24
lotuspsychjeTvL2386_: feel free to subscribe to my bug about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/174206308:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1742063 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Systemd taking long time to boot into desktop 18.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:25
Viking667I'm off for now, folks.08:42
noob1ieLinHello everyone!08:53
noob1ieLincan someone assist as i am a bit new in linux :) |(but not completely)09:01
noob1ieLini installed freeradius, and I am wondering how to uninstall it09:02
noob1ieLini did the dpkg -l | grep -i radius to see the pkgs and then dpkg -P to purge them09:03
noob1ieLinbut when i try locate freeradius i get allot of feedback from files and folders09:03
blackflownoob1ieLin: you can use apt for that, it's the proper package manager anyway (dpkg is low level .deb file manager)09:03
noob1ieLinusr/local/share09:03
noob1ieLinyeap did that also09:05
noob1ieLinapt-get remove freeradius09:05
noob1ieLinReading package lists... Done09:05
noob1ieLinBuilding dependency tree09:05
noob1ieLinReading state information... Done09:05
noob1ieLinPackage 'freeradius' is not installed, so not removed09:05
blackflownoob1ieLin: if dpkg -l showed it installed then apt must be able to uninstall it09:06
quxgyverguiverc_t: What's a snap package?09:07
noob1ieLin@blackflow I am just wondering why the files are still in the system is all09:12
noob1ieLinand should just i delete them09:12
guiverc_tquxgyver, this may provide some info: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2016/06/14/universal-snap-packages-launch-on-multiple-linux-distros ; "Snaps are applications packaged with all their dependencies to run on all popular Linux distributions from a single build. They update automatically and roll back gracefully.."  (you use `snap install` instead of `apt install`) - but the editor you want may not be packaged in it anyway...09:14
quxgyverguiverc_t: Ah I see! That's cool09:39
guiverc_t:)09:40
quxgyverIt doesn't look like it's available as a snap package, but thanks for explaining.09:40
quxgyverAt least I learned some things today. :-)09:40
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Harishello all09:57
Harishow to get php 5.6 on 16.x ?09:57
Harisppa ?09:57
chigonghello all-im new to ubuntu/linux and learning the ropes as i go-want to make a basic quick login script to connect to my vpn service-security not paramount concern hence making a script with login details-how do i incorporate into my script a username and password (what is the syntax for password and username09:59
simosxchigong, Ubuntu uses NetworkManager and you can automate it very easily. Click on [network icon]→VPN Connections→Add a VPN Connection...10:00
jrabechigong: I believe there's currently a bug in NetworkManager that prevents automatic connections from working. If you're affected by it, a script like https://janikrabe.com/vpn.sh.txt should do the trick (place it in '/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d' and make it executable (+x)).10:09
jrabeBe sure to change the UUID on the first line, save your password through the GUI (for all users, not just your user) and note that this script doesn't prevent traffic from going out while the connection is being established or when you have conectivity issues.10:09
jrabehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fq44Ymb73f/ if you prefer the Ubuntu pastebin10:11
chigongthank you very much =010:14
pau2hola10:25
Harisis ppa ok for php on xenial in production ?10:27
Harisstable'sh, secure'sh ?10:27
osseHow do I list the files provided by an installed package?10:27
ppfosse: dpkg -L10:27
osseppf: thanks10:27
ppfHaris: there's no guarantee?10:27
Harisok, so is xenial going to support mongodb 3.x ?10:28
Harisin official repo10:28
mrmaze404Hello10:28
ppf!info mongodb xenial10:28
ubottumongodb (source: mongodb): object/document-oriented database (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.6.10-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 4 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for hurd-any; amd64; i386; kfreebsd-amd64; kfreebsd-i386; armhf; ppc64el; arm64)10:29
ppfHaris: version is 2.610:29
Haris2.6 is pretty old10:29
ppfso is xenial10:29
ppf!info mongodb bionic10:29
ubottuPackage mongodb does not exist in bionic10:29
ppflies?10:30
ppf!info mongodb10:30
ubottuPackage mongodb does not exist in bionic10:30
ppfwell ... ubottu you're broken. version is 3.610:30
TvL2386_Triffid_Hunter: thanks for your suggestion!10:37
TvL2386_Triffid_Hunter: I'll check it out10:37
beaverppf: mongodb =! mongodb-server10:48
beaver!info mongodb-server10:48
ubottumongodb-server (source: mongodb): object/document-oriented database (managed server package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.6.3-0ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 12 kB, installed size 74 kB10:48
Harisstill 2.610:51
Haris2.x10:51
HarisIs 18 ready for production?10:51
ppfbeaver: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/mongodb10:51
ppfHaris: it's 3.610:51
ppfand it's an LTS, so yes10:51
Haristhere's two things. (1) php mod (2) mongodb server, client, tools10:51
Harisapt-cache show mongodb shows 2.610:52
Harison 16.x10:52
ppfyes10:52
beaverppf: indeed :x10:52
newbiiHi people, I have a problem with my freshly installed bionic beaver gnome desktop. Gnome overlaps the icons on my dektop. That is, I range icons as I like on the desktop, then after reboot they are mostly in the same order, but each time some of thes change the position and are exactly at the same place, one over another. (I did not have this issue in the previous ubuntu releases) . Any help?--10:52
Hariscan we have php 5.x on bionic ?10:54
ppfHaris: not natively10:55
ppfyou can run xenial in a container on bionic10:55
ppf(or a more lightweight linux, fwiw)10:55
ppfs,linux,distribution,10:55
Harishow to get php 5.6 on bionic ?10:56
ppfthere's a ppa for 5.6. but i have no idea if that works10:58
mactheknifeWhat is the best flash player for ubuntu?11:05
Jamz_i think pepperflash works better11:05
omarekHi, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with default window manager (Gnome?) and Slack notifier icon in the bottom left keeps pestering me.11:06
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Jamz_mactheknife: https://askubuntu.com/questions/562271/can-i-use-chromes-pepper-flash-with-firefox11:06
omarekI use Vim for programming in fullscreen, and whenever notifications slide in they obscure my vim command line.11:07
omarekI can't afford not to use slack for inter-company communications because that's what most of them uses.11:07
HarisI need the non-legacy php 5.x driver for mongodb to  n11:07
omarekHow do I move the Slack notification icon from bottom left to anywhere else?11:08
ppfHaris: you can try the ppa, though at your own discretion, or run this in a container11:08
mactheknifeJamz_: the flash player is needed for browsing/surfing.11:08
ppfmactheknife: what is this, 2005?11:08
Jamz_mactheknife: whats your question?11:08
mousmactheknife: for my personal flash needs, i'm pretty happy with the flash player that comes built in to Chrome11:09
mousmactheknife: but for firefox/chromium there are plugins11:09
mactheknifeWell to see some websites flash is needed11:09
mouswith chromium you can use pepper flash11:09
Jamz_i just gave an alternative11:09
mousnot sure what firefox does11:10
Jamz_so whats your question?11:10
mactheknifeI see all kinds of flash in synaptic but wonder which one is the best to use11:10
Jamz_for linux i think pepper flash works better but I said that already :)11:10
Jamz_you really only got adobe flash or pepper flash i think as the two main ones11:11
Jamz_so11:11
Jamz_i dont think there are any other good alternatives..you have those two11:12
AuroraAvenueWits end - but tryin' not to loose it.11:12
AuroraAvenueSo I have a Lenovo x220 with Ubuntu bionic beaver#11:12
AuroraAvenueAnd I need a snap that will record from 3.5 jack11:13
HarisI need a php version on xenial that supports the new and legacy driver for mongodb11:13
AuroraAvenueIs there a simple audio recorder that will record from a 3.5 audio lead cable ?11:14
AuroraAvenuehi there can you halp ....?11:19
neredsenvyIs there a way to prevent a service from logging into /var/log/daemon.log I run my java app as a systemd service it's logging into two locations. Where it should application log and into daemon.log.11:20
neredsenvyIs there a way to disable logging into daemon log.11:21
mousAuroraAvenue: Probably a thousand apps that can record from line in jack - one of those is open broadcaster studio (OBS)11:23
newbiiHi people, I have a problem with my freshly installed bionic beaver gnome desktop. Gnome overlaps the icons on my dektop. That is, I range icons as I like on the desktop, then after reboot they are mostly in the same order, but each time some of thes change the position and are exactly at the same place, one over another. (I did not have this issue in the previous ubuntu releases) . Any help?---11:30
AuroraAvenuemous would audacity work as a snap ?#11:31
guiverc_tAuroraAvenue, have you looked thru the snap store ?  https://snapcraft.io/store11:46
skinuxi'm willing to let someone have TeamViewer access, if they can help me figure out why I can only login Gnome desktop,11:47
guiverc_tquxgyver, another question had me go to snap store; no idea if this helps, but https://snapcraft.io/sublime-text (i don't know sublime; learnt vi in the 80s so...)11:49
Tin_manskinux, do you have a alternate desktop installed to use?11:51
skinuxWell, Xfce at the least11:52
skinuxI installed Ubuntu Studio, but the option doesn't show.11:53
Tin_manmight look here for suggestions and help >> https://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/11:53
skinuxThe problem is Gnome is hte only one that doesn't just go back to login11:55
Tin_manis your xfce option there at login?11:56
NEO_NEO_112:00
NEO_Hello This Is my first time12:01
solsTiCeNEO_: for what ?12:02
Haris2how to check if ppa repo is enabled in 16.x ?12:02
NEO_Using an IRC12:02
coconutWelcome NEO_12:03
NEO_Thank  you coconut12:04
NEO_clear12:04
coconutHaris2: seeing no one answers, check lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and/or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list12:09
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baakohi guys, i wanted to buy a wireless mouse and was wondering if https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-910-005313-Wireless-Bluetooth-Windows/dp/B0761YL588/ref=sr_1_18?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1530184105&sr=1-18&keywords=logitech+mouse will work with ubuntu 18.0412:12
plasmoduckbaako: pretty much all wireless mice and keyboards work.12:13
deskwizardI don't have any issues with my Logitech mices using their unified receiver, as for BT, I couldn't say12:14
plasmoduckbaako: it will be fine, I'm using a very cheap usb keyboard with no problems12:15
Tin_manbaako, i use this, and it works fine >> https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-mouse-m18512:15
realchriswellsHi all12:15
Tin_manit was less than shown there at walmart.12:15
baakoTin_man: and plasmoduck i current have a logitech k800 keyboard and logitech performance mx mouse, the mouse and keyboard doesnt work together so i had to disconnect the mouse and using a wired mouse which i dont like12:16
JadedJJHi12:16
JadedJJHow does the modern traceroute command work?12:16
realchriswellsI'm having issues with setting up a magento 2 site on Ubuntu, specifically running composer. the error I'm getting is chmod(): Operation not permitted. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but any help would be appareciated.12:17
Tin_manI don't wireless keyboard, seem to have a lag when typing, so I usually go with a wired keyboard, and wireless mouse, but it's a personal thing.12:17
baakoTin_man: am a wireless man,12:20
baakounless am gaming12:20
DarkStar1Hi people. Are there ppas for openjdk10?12:31
DarkStar1or is it just manual installation for now12:31
DarkStar1?12:32
subjectid(18.04 gnome shell) network manager replaces the saved password in openvpn settings when using 2auth. Can't figure out where to change that behavior.12:47
quxgyverguiverc_t: Ah thanks. Sublime actually works. It just gives me update/upgrade errors is all12:53
quxgyverSo no issue there. :-)12:53
MibixFoxhmm so i just newly formatted a 3tb ext4 drive and wrote all the stuff i normally write in to fstab and I can't seem to get it to mount13:01
MibixFoxmounted before i formatted it13:01
MibixFoxis there anyway to see the error message?13:01
aroraMibixFox: dmesg13:02
MibixFoxlol critical medium error13:04
MibixFoxi mean this drive is pretty old13:05
aroragrep only the usb part from the log13:06
MibixFoxits not a usb drive?13:06
aroraoh you meant sata drive?13:07
MibixFoxyeah13:07
MibixFoxseems to be getting I/O errors13:08
arorahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools13:08
arefhi13:09
MibixFoxheh yeah its not the healthiest according to those13:09
arefthis peppermint 9 32 bit13:09
MibixFoxbut it was working in NTFS :/13:09
aroraMibixFox: what happens when you mount it?13:10
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aref_hi13:10
MibixFoxit just immediately umounts13:11
MibixFoxi might just try a restart13:11
leftyfbMibixFox: I/O errors is a bad HDD13:15
MibixFoxleftyfb:  yeah it was working before i formatted it :p13:19
leftyfbMibixFox: "working"13:20
leftyfbMibixFox: Windows love to ignore problems with drives until it's too late13:20
MibixFoxi mean it still passes the smart tests13:20
MibixFoxdef has a few bad blocks though13:20
ducasseit isn't going to get better at this stage13:22
MibixFoxlol restarted and its working now :D13:23
MibixFoxmight not delete that backup for a bit :D13:28
r1c0fisse13:33
freakynlHi, is squid on 18.04 lacking stuff? Get errors: * FATAL: Unknown http_port option 'ssl-bump' -- that option is documented in the default config :/13:39
dewwfreakynl: this might apply to you http://squid-web-proxy-cache.1019090.n4.nabble.com/squid-4-0-20-does-not-recognize-ssl-bump-option-td4682847.html13:41
freakynldeww: Yes, I'm aware of that. Quite stumped Ubuntu has built it w/o SSL support13:46
freakynldeww: thanks tho' :)13:46
zetherooin which file/folder is the users preferred theme set?13:53
skinuxIs there a more preferred shell text editor than vim now? I just found it not installed.14:17
dewwskinux: maybe nano as it's pretty friendly to use.14:19
pagiosHello, does anyone know of any opensource DNS load balancer? Idea is to have a certain domain.com that resolves everytime to a different origin ip address thus load balancing the traffic. appreciaite if someone can point me to a good opensource project i can rely on14:19
leftyfbskinux: vi is installed by default on ubuntu. vim is an apt command away14:20
dewwpagios: i'm far from knowledgeable on this, but it appears you are referring to dns round robin14:21
leftyfbdeww: that's not real load balancing14:21
dewwnope14:22
svipWhen I run udevadm monitor, I can constantly see slab and nvidia modules getting removed and added, causing systemd-udev and modprobe to use a lot of CPU.14:28
svipIs there a way to tell the kernel *not* to remove these modules and just keep them added?14:28
your1pjoin #puppet14:30
blackflowleftyfb: I thought vim was always there, just by default confiugred in vi compatible mode14:31
blackflowits' a dependency of ubuntu-minimal14:31
leftyfbhm, I may be thinking of raspberry pi14:31
coconut_awayI am trying to find a command to add a whole .txt file to the end of an already existing one.14:35
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coconutduckduckgo did not tell much14:35
eyeohcat test.txt >> existing.txt ?14:35
eyeohnote the double >> - single will overwrite14:36
coconutow, *that* easy? Shame on me....14:36
eyeohtee might be another command that does a similar but different thing you might be interested in.14:36
eyeohoh nah so many times I've never been sure cause it's not always documented since it's /assumed/ knowledge.14:37
eyeohheh check out man tac too14:37
eyeohunix is whacky14:37
eyeohthe details is probably somewhere inside 'info coreutils' but I admittedly haven't read it14:39
eyeoh(also try info info to learn to read info...)14:39
eyeohI definitely need to read all of info coreutils; as well as how to compile rather than stumbling around (although, stumbling around teaches a lot too)14:41
eyeohI think setting the terminal font to something nice and not too big/small helps14:42
eyeohit even goes into what a kilobyte is14:42
dsarwhat is wrong with this expression sed -i -e "s/^-XX:HeapDumpPath*/\-XX:HeapDumpPath=/app/var/lib/elasticsearch" jvm.options14:43
dsarit says sed: -e expression #1, char 41: unknown option to `s'14:43
coconut eyeoh: does this cat example also work with weird/all characters?14:50
coconutIt does as long it's a txt file right?14:50
Pete234a14:51
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eyeohI imagine it should but that's a guess - always test :)14:52
coconuthehe, will do...14:52
Pete234Hey guys, Ubuntu 18.0 seems to be very exciting, any thoughts on how to make it even more interesting?14:53
eyeohI think you mean 18.04 :p14:53
Pete234Yeah14:54
oerheksinstall some software, read about it14:54
eyeoh(cause there will be an 18.10 soon enough; and then you'll be deciding which to keep)14:54
Pete234Like what14:54
oerheksnot really an ubuntu technical issue, is it?14:54
eyeohhead to the command line as early as you can14:54
eyeohyou'll learn lots14:54
Pete234How long do you anticipate the next release?14:54
oerheks5 years14:54
eyeohthey're twice a year Pete234, and once every two years for LTS releases.14:55
danili_Hey people :) I have this wierd problem with my package manager, I tried to install tftpd-hpa so I could connect to my cisco switch. Anyway the program didn't install right, and now it prohibit me from installing anything else. I've googled the problem any tried apt -f, dpkg --purge and so on, and nothing worked. I've collected the thinks I've tried and the outputs I got in this pastebin :) https://pastebin.com/FiTge91C14:55
Pete234Wow!Cool but probably there will be a beta release before the arrival of this new release due in 5 year14:56
leftyfbdanili_: sudo touch /etc/default/tftpd-hpa && sudo apt-get remove --purge tftpd-hpa14:58
ZuhaitzHi, I forgot my password for USB HD (LUKS), because I changed it last week, I remember the old one, for an unknown reason gnome shell forgot it when I unpluged the usb and pluged again, and I have important stuff there. Can someone tell me if there is a way? Gnome SHELL Ubuntu GNU Linux 16.04 LUKS. Please.14:58
leftyfbZuhaitz: there is no way14:59
leftyfbZuhaitz: that would defeat the purpose behind encryption14:59
oerheksZuhaitz, you changed *and* forgot the luks password, then you have a big problem14:59
oerheksso, your data is safe, no-one can read it14:59
danili_leftyfb, it gave me this https://pastebin.com/sFXrgeMz14:59
eyeohcoconut: I finally figured out where >> is originally "documented", in case you ever want to read up on that - type info bash, and then press s and search for >>14:59
blackflowcall NSA for a backup copy?14:59
blackflowalso... important without backup == not important.15:00
eyeohcoconut: there are a couple of other tricks described there too15:00
Zuhaitzleftyfb, but maybe, If I am the owner... the user ...15:00
Zuhaitzwhat about this https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1543373 ?15:00
leftyfbZuhaitz: there is no way. You either remember the password or you consider the data gone15:01
Zuhaitzleftyfb, and WHY Gnome SHELL forgot it?15:01
Pete234How many users are in the system...I am assuming that you could probably boot with a USB boot repair and try  to recover from there assuming that the such user has admin rights15:01
eyeohZuhaitz: Assuming it's a strong password, you're in a tough spot. In future the only possible option you have is to use a password manager.15:01
ZuhaitzI clicked "remember password" and it was working for weeks15:02
eyeohoh no15:02
oerheksZuhaitz, why did *you* forgot it?? did you seriously want gnome to remember the pass ??15:02
eyeohthat's not what it's meant to do15:02
Zuhaitzand just 2 days ago, Gnome forgot it15:02
oerheks.. and you changed it15:02
eyeohthat's not how the keyring works15:02
leftyfbZuhaitz: this has nothing to do with gnome shell. You can use cryptsetup to try to unlock the volume. It'll ask for your password. If you forgot it, then there is no getting in15:02
Zuhaitzoerheks, I changed it and clicked remember15:02
Zuhaitzand it was working15:02
Pete234and also you might be able to find some linux hacking tools which could help you take care of the issue15:02
Zuhaitzfor 2 days15:02
ZuhaitzGnome SHell forgot it15:03
leftyfbPete234: there is currently no "hacking" around LUKS15:03
eyeohOkay, so assume gnome shell did forget it15:03
Zuhaitzbelive or not15:03
blackflowunless you call NSA for a backup copy.       c'mon 'tis funny.15:03
eyeohwe still can't help sorry15:03
Zuhaitzeyeoh, but why? is not that a bug?15:03
eyeohit's technically not possible with current knowledge15:03
yogghi15:03
eyeohno Zuhaitz, it's security15:03
Zuhaitzat least I could mount it, copy to another15:03
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Zuhaitzand then format15:03
Zuhaitzno, is not security15:03
Zuhaitzgnome FORGOT it15:03
eyeohbut why encrypt if it's not meant to?15:04
eyeohokay15:04
ZuhaitzI clicked remember, and it was working15:04
Zuhaitzplug --> mounted15:04
Zuhaitzit was working for a long time15:04
leftyfbZuhaitz: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/<your drive> backup15:04
Zuhaitzwhat is that15:04
yoggI try to use "ps -o comm:50,pid" but I only get the first 15 chars of the process. Is there a special option to get the full string?15:04
Pete234just like windows, I am sure there are some linux tools aimed for such purpose15:05
leftyfbit'll ask you for the password to manually unlock it15:05
ZuhaitzNautilus is asking me every time I click...15:05
Zuhaitzthe drive15:05
ZuhaitzxD15:05
luxioWhat's the package for IntelliJ IDEA?15:05
yoggthe full command that I use: "ps axf -o comm:50,pid"15:06
leftyfbZuhaitz: if you forgot the password, that is a bug with your brain, nothing else. Sorry, nobody can help you.15:06
ZuhaitzI know that is my problem, but If I forgot and gnome dont, then I could mount, and copy to the laptop hd, then format usb hd again15:06
Zuhaitzleftyfb, no, gnome shell forgot the password15:06
blackflowluxio: search the snaps, I don't think there's a regular package of it15:06
Zuhaitzis a gnome bug15:06
leftyfbZuhaitz: do you know he password?15:06
yoggwith "ps auxf " I get much more15:06
Zuhaitzleftyfb, I clicked REMEMBER PASSWORD15:06
leftyfbZuhaitz: do you know he password?15:07
Zuhaitzit was working, and gnome forgot it15:07
leftyfbthe*15:07
Zuhaitzis or not a bug in nautilus gnome or what ever?15:07
leftyfbZuhaitz: do you know the password?15:07
blackflowit's not a bug, it's PEBKAC15:07
Zuhaitzgnome should15:07
Zuhaitzleftyfb, is a bug15:07
Zuhaitzyou are stupid lame troll15:07
ZuhaitzxD15:07
eyeohluxio: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/#section=linux and click the instructions link on the left - it's fairly simple really15:07
Zuhaitzis a fucking bug15:07
luxioeyeoh: thank you15:07
eyeohno compiling, cause it's java15:07
luxiofound a snap though https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2017/11/install-intellij-idea-with-snaps/15:07
luxiowhich one should I sue15:07
luxiouse*15:07
oerheksZuhaitz, thank you for visiting ubuntu support, good luck15:07
leftyfbZuhaitz: ok, goodbye. Make sure you remember passwords next time15:07
blackflowZuhaitz: good luck with that then.15:07
eyeohluxio: community is the free one; start there15:08
Zuhaitzoerheks, you are just one more, just like me15:08
Zuhaitzleftyfb, is a troll15:08
Zuhaitzthere is a bug15:08
luxioeyeoh: I mean which one as in snap or .tar.gz15:08
eyeohwell I personally would go for the tar.gz15:08
Zuhaitzand this is not a support channel, is a community channel15:08
eyeohI don't know how to use snap15:08
Zuhaitzcanonical is not here15:08
blackflowluxio: there's a snap of it, don't use the tarball unless you have to15:08
Zuhaitzyou are like me, no more15:08
Zuhaitzjust like me15:08
eyeohor what blackflow says15:08
Zuhaitzno authority here15:08
luxioZuhaitz: "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"15:08
Zuhaitzjust leftyfb insulting me15:08
Zuhaitzoh, yes, luxio , sure is Canonical LTD paying15:09
ZuhaitzXDDDDDDDD15:09
Zuhaitzofficial XDDDDDDDD15:09
oerheksi understand you do not get the answer you want to hear, pitty15:09
eyeohluxio: https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2017/11/install-intellij-idea-with-snaps/15:09
hggdh /ircc-in15:09
blackflowluxio: `snap search idea`15:09
leftyfbZuhaitz: you have multiple people telling you the same thing. You do not know the password, you cannot unlock the drive. You have zero options. Sorry about your loss.15:09
ZuhaitzIf I click REMEMBER password to a software the software SHOULD remember, and if it does for somedays and after somedays stop remembering, that is a bug15:09
leftyfbZuhaitz: ok, file a bug15:10
Zuhaitz leftyfb* added to ignore list.15:10
ZuhaitzTroll.15:10
hggdhZuhaitz: I suggest you go and file a bug15:10
blackflowguys, can't you see it is just trolling? it has no desire to listen to your advices. Just /ignore15:10
Zuhaitzhggdh, where?15:10
eyeohZuhaitz: I'm not even a volunteer here (I use fedora) but how can I help you?15:10
hggdhZuhaitz: also, please calm down15:10
danili_leftyfb, your idea with touch and apt remove --purge, didn't work. It just gave me the same error :/ https://pastebin.com/sFXrgeMz Any other suggestions? :)15:10
Zuhaitzhggdh, i didnt insult, he does "you have a bug in your brain"15:10
Zuhaitzis that "official support" of canonical?15:10
Zuhaitzif it is, tell me, Ill write something to canonical15:11
Zuhaitzabout the "support"15:11
Zuhaitzand insults15:11
Zuhaitz;)15:11
eyeohok I'll follow the other advice of /ignore so that I don't flood the channel with replies15:11
hggdhZuhaitz: this is community support15:11
Zuhaitzhggdh, Im community too15:11
ZuhaitzAnd I'll dont insult you15:11
hggdhZuhaitz: if you want Canonical support, you need to contact them and contract them for that15:12
eyeohluxio: let us know how you go with whichever option you take15:12
Zuhaitzhggdh, I dont want canonical support, I just dont want be insulted15:12
eyeohas for the Ultimate version; it's a free trial so if you want to see, I guess try that15:12
hggdhZuhaitz: if you think this is a bug open a bug -- I would guess against seahorse -- by running "ubuntu-bug seahorse"15:12
yogghmm I think I found my answer :( https://superuser.com/questions/567648/ps-comm-format-always-cuts-the-process-name15:13
hggdhZuhaitz: but the fact remains: if you forgot the passphrase, then there is NO way to recover the data15:13
xirgwhat's the best way to join an AD domain with ubuntu15:13
coconutthanks for info bash eyeoh ...15:14
ZuhaitzI did something wrong: I changed a password that I was using for a long time, and I forgot it (not really, just some uppercase or something like that), but Nautilus in Gnome Shell under Ubuntu should remember it as I clicked "remember password", that is a bug for sure. I did the wrong thing, I know, but if Gnome or nautilus didnt (I dont know conditional in english) could rememeber it now, I could mount it and save it in the internal15:14
Zuhaitzhd then format the external again.15:14
Zuhaitzhggdh, I'will15:14
luxioeyeoh: installing the snap seems to have worked15:14
ZuhaitzI know is -my- fault, but without the bug, my fault could be saved with copy and format and copy...15:14
eyeohcoconut: np - luxio: nice; just the community one?15:15
Zuhaitz:/15:15
eyeohmy understanding is that the ultimate one is for pros/money makers15:15
hggdhZuhaitz: I understand your point of view, but there is nothing else to be done *right* now15:15
eyeohso get used to the community one and extend if you need15:15
luxioeyeoh: yes15:15
Zuhaitzhttps://access.redhat.com/solutions/1543373 <-- what about this?15:16
eyeohxirg: is that Active Directory? (I myself wouldn't know sorry)15:16
xirgyes, active directory15:16
* eyeoh passes the buck15:16
leftyfbZuhaitz: "If the system is still up and the device is currently opened (unlocked), root can use the master key to add a new key"15:16
leftyfbZuhaitz: since you cannot open/unlock it, that is not possible15:17
leftyfbZuhaitz: there is no breaking into the drive15:17
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leftyfbZuhaitz: if there were, nobody would use LUKS15:17
oerheksbug: luks is too good.15:17
leftyfbbut if he's got me on ignore, then i'm sure he'll be fine on his own15:17
Zuhaitzoerheks, no15:21
Zuhaitzoerheks, luks is good, but if nautilus asked me for remember or not and I cliked yes and worked for months15:21
Zuhaitzwhy just 2 days ago nautilus forgot it?15:21
pantatosooo i installed some kde program a long long time ago and ever since my boot screen has been that stupid kubuntu login...i just tried apt-get --purge remove kubuntu* and rebooted. Now it wont boot and Im stuck in emergency mode logged in as root. Pls help15:21
ZuhaitzNAUTILUS BUG15:21
hggdhZuhaitz: enough15:21
Zuhaitzhggdh, luks is nice, yes, it is15:21
hggdhall: enough15:22
hggdhZuhaitz: please stop NOW15:22
Zuhaitzgnome is nice, nautilus is nice, I love gnome shell15:22
Zuhaitzbut there is a bug15:22
ZuhaitzxD15:22
Zuhaitzand my fault + nautilus bug = drama for me XD15:22
Zuhaitzin that order15:22
rahulstarkhey15:22
leftyfbdanili_: let me look15:24
danili_leftyfb, https://pastebin.com/sFXrgeMz15:26
deusexmachinacan I overclock my gpu in ubuntu?15:26
deusexmachinai have a 1080 ti15:27
leftyfbredleek_: can I help you with something?15:27
zarzari'm trying to get opkg tools installed on my ubuntu, the guides i have founf are all stale relative to the opkg source hosted on yocto project org, is there a guide?15:27
redleek_leftyfb: sorry, new to IRC, just testing commands in different channels. Sorry if I disturbed you.15:28
leftyfbredleek_: IRC pinging people isn't appropriate15:28
redleek_leftyfb: my understanding was that it gave the ping time, not notify when someone pinged you15:29
redleek_leftyfb: again, my apologies15:30
leftyfbdanili_: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/g68dfCcxGb/   write that to the contents of /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and make sure it's owned by root15:30
danili_redleek_, I also got a notification from when you pinged me15:30
redleek_danili_: sorry15:31
danili_leftyfb, this is the content of /etc/default/tftpd-hpa at the moment https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XPYNQ7VG3g/ and it's owned by root already15:34
deusexmachinano one knows a way to OC my gpu in ubuntu?15:35
leftyfbdanili_: sudo mkdir /tmp-files && sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/tftpd-hpa* /tmp-files/  && sudo apt remove --purge tftpd-hpa15:35
svipI have installed nvidia-driver-396, but when I run nvidia-settings (after rebooting), it claims there is no NVIDIA driver loaded.  Looking at udevadm monitor, I can see the nvidia module getting removed and added constantly.15:35
leftyfbdeusexmachina: that's beyond the scope of this channel15:35
deusexmachinaleftyfb, where should I ask?15:36
pantatocan anyone help me?15:36
leftyfb!ask | pantato15:37
ubottupantato: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:37
pantatoi did ask the question15:37
leftyfbpantato: reinstall KDE?15:38
danili_leftyfb, looks like that worked :D Thanks alot!15:38
leftyfbdanili_: feel free to delete /tmp-files after you confirm you can install the package again without issue15:39
pantatoleftyfb: just one of the packages15:40
pantatoi think just worked15:41
hggdhpantato: this is probably because you also got the KDE display manager installed, and selected for default DM. I do not remember the name, but if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 you should be able to select whatever DM you want15:41
hggdhpantato: (DMs that are installed, of course)15:42
pantatohggdh: mm it's weird because i just upgraded to 18.04 from 14.04 and i had lightdm running with 14.04 , still had the crappy logo on boot, though15:44
hggdhpantato: (1) lightdm is not the default DM nowadays; (2) so whatever you did you did a long time ago15:45
pantatohggdh: says i'm running gdm3 right now15:47
pantatoi don't understand why i would need kubuntu packages15:47
hggdhpantato: then I did not understand your question. Can you please elaborate?15:48
danili_leftyfb, tried to reinstall it and ended up at the beginning with this https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/3mQCGmmrBN/ guess there's a problem with the package in the repo :/ Wonder if I could just find the source and compile it myself15:49
pantatohggdh: i installed something that required KDE a long long time ago. I tried to get rid of it before but I guess the boot logo has remained. (this all during 14.04) I just upgraded from 14.04 to 18.04 the other day, decided to clean up a bit and fix my boot logo screen15:49
pantatoand the package that seems to allow it to work now is15:49
pantatokubuntu-driver-manager15:50
pantatoonce I reinstalled that, i could boot again15:50
pantatobut when i removed all the kubuntu packages, i couldn't boot. WHy would that be the case if I'm running gdm3?15:50
pantatoand have been this entire time15:50
hggdhpantato: wait. you could not *boot*?15:52
pantatohggdh: nope, it appeared to be stuck on some device load or something when i caught a glimpse of it15:52
pantatoit was like /dev/sdd1 or something15:52
pantatoreally strange15:52
pantatoit would hang, then i'd be prompted to go to emergency mode or whatever15:53
hggdhpantato: got to answer some work emails, so I will be off for a while. It sounds like the boot process expected a device to be available on boot, and hung there15:54
hggdhnow, how this integrates with KDE, IDK15:55
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KLKhello i got a problem with my bc4311 wireless card  ,,it dosent show up on list.. last night  i did make it funktional  .. but my hdd  burned,, so now i need to get the right cutter ,, any help people16:15
lotuspsychjeKLK: have you got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed mate?16:15
KLKnew hdd  , new ubuntu ,, new firmware drivers16:15
KLKlotus i dont know  iam new at this16:15
KLKhow do i see if i got it  installed ?16:16
lotuspsychjeKLK: apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras16:16
lotuspsychjeKLK: you say nex firmware drivers? where did you got those from?16:16
KLKlotus no i dont have16:17
KLKthe problem is  i cant remeber where i got it16:17
oerhekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/956698/bcm4311-no-option-to-enable-wi-fi16:17
KLKi wass called something like b43cutter16:17
lotuspsychjeKLK: can you hastebin.com the output of: sudo lshw -C network for us?16:17
KLKsec16:18
KLKi got a hardware button for wifi  but it wont function  when not the right  driver is installed16:19
KLKso its also hardblocked untill driver installed16:19
oerheksinstall, and reboot, i guess16:19
KLKLotus how do i show u the hastebin.com16:20
KLKlotus i think i got it  ,, here you go16:21
KLKhttps://hastebin.com/xetawafavi.coffeescript16:21
KLKlotus  u there ?16:22
lotuspsychjeKLK: yes, give me the time to look at it :p this is your driver driver=b43-pci-bridge16:22
KLKyes it is16:22
KLKlotus sorry ofcourse i will give u time16:22
KLK:D16:23
lotuspsychjeKLK: so, you can try install ubuntu-restricted-extras and reboot16:23
lotuspsychjeKLK: or follow the link from oerheks16:23
KLKlotus i dont know how,, give me a sec  iam noob16:24
metbsdhi16:24
lotuspsychjemetbsd: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?16:24
metbsdafter upgrade to 18, no more login manager16:24
lotuspsychjemetbsd: what kind of graphics card, and from wich ubuntu release or you upgrading?16:25
KLKlotus i think i got it..its 140 mb16:25
metbsdsudo init 5 don't work16:25
metbsdstill in cmi16:25
lotuspsychjeKLK: yes install and reboot please16:25
metbsdit was working before i upgrade16:26
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metbsdhow to check version16:26
=== emhutchins is now known as HalcyonGrey
lotuspsychjemetbsd: lsb_release -a16:26
lotuspsychjemetbsd: sudo lshw -C video16:26
KLKlotus how do i get past the package setup screen  ?16:27
metbsd18.04 lts16:27
lotuspsychjeKLK: what package setup?16:27
metbsdits all strange square16:27
lotuspsychjeKLK: you mean the graphical part inside terminal?16:27
KLKyes16:28
oerheksklk use tab and space16:28
KLKttf-mscorefonts-installer16:28
lotuspsychjeKLK: press TAB16:28
KLKthx16:28
cristian__mhm16:28
lotuspsychjecristian__: can we help you?16:28
metbsdhow do i change locale?16:28
metbsdcommand line now16:28
cristian__im just reading the dialog for info16:28
lotuspsychjemetbsd: let me try again, from wich ubuntu are you upgrading from? and what graphics card do you have?16:29
tallguyhello ubuntu folks, i'd like a wee bit of help ...16:29
jk^is it possibile to upgrade my lubuntu 16.04.4 LTS to 18.04 LTS without terminal? is there a gui way to do it?16:29
lotuspsychje!ask | tallguy16:29
ubottutallguy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:29
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | jk^16:29
ubottujk^: Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 18.04.1 release expected in late July.16:29
naccjk^: not yet supported, so i'd wait16:29
jk^tnx16:29
KLKlotus why am i getting  .exe files16:30
KLK??16:30
metbsdlotuspsychje: 17.04 to 18.0416:30
metbsdit's thinkpad x23016:30
naccKLK: "mscorefonts" are windows fonts, iirc?16:30
KLKiirc ??16:31
naccKLK: "if i recall correctly"16:31
KLKiam not sure what iirc is ?16:31
naccKLK: I just do you.16:31
nacc*just told you16:31
oerheksubuntu unpacks that exe archive, no worries16:31
KLKok thx16:31
naccKLK: iirc = "if i recall correctly"16:31
KLKi dont like exe though16:31
jk^!off-topic16:31
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:31
lotuspsychjemetbsd: 17.04 is end of life16:31
tallguyk, i',m running 16.04LTS and need a wee bit of help - how does one set a longer interval before the o/s hibernates for inactivity?16:32
naccKLK: then don't use windows fonts16:32
KLKill be back in a minute .. reboot cumming up16:32
KLKsec16:32
lotuspsychjemetbsd: you sure it wasnt 17.10 you upgraded from?16:32
cristian__Does anyone know how to enable the root account on Ubuntu 18.04?16:33
oerhekstallguy, systemsettings > brightness & lock16:33
tallguygreat thank you :)16:33
lotuspsychje!sudo | cristian__16:33
ubottucristian__: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo16:33
nacccristian__: don't. use sudo.16:33
oerhekscristian__, there is a wiki but we don't give support after that16:33
oerheksyou will mess up your env16:34
lotuspsychjemetbsd: can you recall you were using xorg or wayland on previous ubuntu? and on wich graphics card please?16:34
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cristian__ok16:35
KLKloyus hello iam back ..16:35
KLKlotus16:35
lotuspsychjeKLK: your wifi work now?16:35
tallguythank you oerheks, so simple but i had not found it :)16:35
oerhekstallguy, have fuN!16:36
KLKnope its till not listed when i click my network mannager16:36
lotuspsychjeKLK: can you go check your additional drivers tab in software&sources please?16:36
KLKhow ?16:36
KLKsec16:36
cristian__Im only asking because in the terminal I use the command "cd /root" and it gives me and error "Persmission Denied" but when I try to view it using "sudo" it gives me the error "bash: cd: /root: Permission denied"16:37
lotuspsychjeKLK: see wich drivers are available for your system16:37
KLKsec16:37
nacccristian__: cd is a bash builtin16:37
lotuspsychjecristian__: can you start from the beginning? what are you trying to do exactly?16:37
nacccristian__: `sudo cd` is nonsense16:37
nacccristian__: why do you need to change to root's home directory?16:37
oerhekswhat guide tells you to "cd /root"  ??16:38
nacclots of questions :)16:38
cristian__Im studying for the LPIC, so Im navigating all the folders through the terminal to get a feel around the FS.16:38
KLKlotus broadcom 802.11 linux STA wireless driver from bcmwl-kernel-source(propriotary16:39
nacccristian__: just read `man hier`16:39
lotuspsychjeKLK: ok wich driver is active right now?16:39
nacccristian__: and if you actually need to navigate your entire filesystem, become root with `sudo -s -H`16:39
KLKthe one i just typed in16:39
cristian__ok thank you16:39
lotuspsychjeKLK: are there others in the list?16:39
KLKnope16:40
KLKwell sec ...16:40
KLKlotus nope no other drivers available16:41
lotuspsychjeKLK: try this from terminal: sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer16:41
KLKlotus  ok  sec16:41
cristian__Im using a Mac, I found out how to fix the driver issue16:42
cristian__What KLK said its the packages you need to make it work16:44
KLKlotus , installed firmware-b43-installer16:44
lotuspsychjeKLK: ok reboot and c heck wifi again16:45
KLKok ill try that .... sec16:45
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KLKiam back16:48
KLKmaybe iam not adressing the right problem16:48
KLKlotus  last night i installed something like c43cutter i dont know if that did the trick,, i need some software to activate my wifi HARDWARE button16:49
KLKbc43cutter  or something like that16:49
edgar_hi everybody in the kerel 4.15.0.x, the intel-microcode is no avaliable16:49
lotuspsychjeKLK: b43-fwcutter ?16:49
RandolfMy Windows 10 crashed, and it can't repair itself.  I'm just copying the hard drive with a different machine.16:49
RandolfI'm moving to Ubuntu Desktop now.16:50
RandolfIt's fast.16:50
KLKlotus yes thats it  i think '16:50
RandolfI'm having some issue with Wine though.16:50
edgar_but in the system is installed somebody know something about it?16:50
Randolfq4wine is asking for a "console application settings" binary, but I don't know what to enter there.16:50
RandolfAny suggestions?  Thanks.16:50
KLKlotus first  of all i have to get it to show op as a wireles device in my network mannager  before i can activate  it with my hardware button16:50
KLKlotus  i think   maybe it wont regonize my HW button for wifi16:51
lotuspsychjeKLK: go check additional drivers again16:51
eyeohnacc / cristian__: Is sudo su the same as sudo -s -H ?16:52
lotuspsychjeKLK: you might also need to purge bcmwl-kernel-source16:52
KLKlotus how do i  do that16:52
KLKman purge16:53
lotuspsychjeKLK: try this: sudo apt purge bcmwl-kernel-source16:53
KLKaaah ok i see   i use apt for that16:53
KLKthx16:53
KLKlotus Done!16:56
lotuspsychjeKLK: reboot and test again :p16:56
KLKlotus  ok :D16:56
KLKsexc16:56
KLKsec16:56
lotuspsychjecharlotte: so fixxed now?17:02
charlotte50 % fixed17:03
charlottelotus now it lists it in network mannager but its blanked out17:03
lotuspsychjecharlotte: can you see ssid's?17:03
Pencil2I got this error on my ubuntu 18.04.  Says I must reinstall package  gnome-software-common 3.28.1   I'm a user.  Don't know what to do.17:04
charlottelotus when i boot my maschine the wifi hardware button  lights turns  on  and then of again17:04
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KLKlotus is  not active but now it sees it17:05
lotuspsychjeKLK: check if you can click an ssid?17:05
KLKlotus i cant17:05
KLKits not active17:05
KLKbut it regonizez it17:06
KLKaaaargh ;;; FCK SAKE17:06
lotuspsychjeKLK: you have the wifi icon, but you can enable wifi?17:06
lotuspsychjecant17:06
KLKi cant enable it keeps  being hardware blocked17:07
tomreynPencil2: open a temrinal window and run "sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install; sudo apt install gnome-software-common", then post the output of these commands at https://paste.ubuntu.com , submit the post and and tell us the web address you end up on17:07
lotuspsychjeKLK: do you have uefi stuff enabled or so that could block?17:07
KLKwhen i boot the light turns on ,, and then back off again  after a  while17:07
KLKlotus17:07
KLKi just  reinstalled ubuntu 16.0417:08
lotuspsychjeKLK: singleboot or dualboot with windows?17:08
KLKlotus single boot17:08
edgar_ hi, someone have a tutorial to optimise ubuntu 18.04 for ssd17:08
lotuspsychjeKLK: ok good, have you disabled fastboot or secureboot?17:08
KLKold HP compaq nx 730017:09
KLKlotus that is not the problem iam allmost sure17:09
* _Dbug_ has been running Ubuntu on SSDs for a bunch of years... without optimizing anything :D17:09
lotuspsychjeKLK: ok17:09
KLKlotus   u want me to go bios right ?17:09
lotuspsychjeKLK: if it has no uefi, nevermind17:09
lotuspsychjeKLK: try this from terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog and play around with your wifi a bit enabled/disable see what kind of erros you get17:10
tomreynedgar_: it's usually most helpful if you can stay connected after asking a question. ;)17:10
tomreyn...17:11
KLKi cant  play around with it  the hardware button is not active17:11
lotuspsychjeKLK: have you also tryed connecting your computer with a cable and update your system?17:11
RandolfDoes anyone here use WINE?17:11
lotuspsychjeKLK: you have an ethernet port in your pc right?17:11
KLKlotus yes ofcourse.. else i wouldent be able  to chat  with  you17:12
KLK:D17:12
lotuspsychjeKLK: ok can you check if your system is up to date? sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade17:12
KLKsec17:13
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KLKlotus iam up to date '17:16
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lotuspsychjeKLK: ok good17:16
KLKwhen i click  my hardware button its says.... charlotte-HP-Compaq-nx7300-RH676ET-ABY systemd[1]: Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status17:16
lotuspsychjeKLK: i seen some older systems with a weird bios setting wifi 'last state' to get problems on ubuntu, maybe doublecheck also17:17
KLKlotus its not bios related  i know this :D17:17
lotuspsychjeKLK: after that im out of ideas, check your syslog for errors or try switching drivers from your additional drivers list17:17
lotuspsychjeKLK: check your syslog, and lets have facts whats going on your system17:18
lotuspsychjeRandolf: ask your real question to the channel please17:18
KLKlotus what about the bc43cutter ??  what is  it what does it do ?17:18
lotuspsychjeKLK: b43-fwcutter - utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware17:19
KLKaah ok17:19
KLKlotus,, am i not having the right  firmware17:19
KLK?17:19
KLKgod dan it i made this  work last nightg17:19
lotuspsychjeKLK: cant you recall what you did anymore? check your dpkg logs?17:20
KLKthere is nothing ,, i just reinstalled ubuntu17:20
lotuspsychjeKLK: why did you reinstall if you got it working before?17:21
memphistoKLK: try doing the following: go to BIOS Setup (press F10 at startup) -> System Configuration -> Built-In Device Options -> enable (double click) the following: Wireless Button state, Embedded WLAN Device, Embedded Bluetooth Device, LAN/WLAN Switching.17:22
KLKlotus  because i upgraded  from 16.04 to 17 and it crippled my system17:22
KLKFirst  of all its not a  bios related problem,, second i dont even have thouse  options,, i told  u iam sitting on a compaq nx 730017:23
memphistoso, you are on clean install of 16.04 or 17.x17:24
memphistoand you have non working wifi17:25
KLKand iam sorry for being like this but this is getting on my nerves17:25
memphistosorry i came ab it late,,didnt' see what you were writing17:25
KLKiam 2 sec away from putting a hammer throug this lappie17:25
lotuspsychjememphisto: he's on a broadcom and tryed installing few drivers17:26
lotuspsychjememphisto: none of what we tryed made his wifi availableµ17:26
KLKi need the right firmware to activate my hw button17:26
lotuspsychjebbl17:26
RandolfSo, I've got Ubuntu 18.04 LTS installed on my laptop.  It is wonderful that it asks if I want to do updates automatically or manually before installing any updates.  You folks got this right, and I'm very happy about this.  I'm sick and tired of Windows 10 automatically updating and rebooting in the middle of the day, even when it's configured not to do updates.17:26
memphistoKLK: what ubuntu version, and what kernel version17:26
KLK16.04 how do i see what kernel.. IAM NOOB17:27
memphistouname -r17:27
KLKmemphis 4.13.0-45-generic17:28
memphistothats good, newer, so you have HWE enabled17:28
i-make-robotshi ubuntu.  I'm having trouble with php-fpm using waaaay too much cpu.  what's a good channel to seek for help, please?17:28
i-make-robotsi'm on an ubuntu box, which is why i started here.17:28
KLKwhat is hwe ???17:28
nacc!hwe | KLK17:29
ubottuKLK: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack17:29
Guest88030the php-fm channel i-make-robots :)17:29
memphistoand what wifi is it ? lspci |grep -i net17:29
nacci-make-robots: are you actively using php on  your system?17:29
KLKmemphis when i boot my computer the wifi hardware buttons lights  tunrs on ,, and then after a litle while it turns off again ,, and from there  i cant interact with the button ,,, nothing happens when i press it17:29
tshirtmanhello, i have a network interface issue on my server, i remember trying to set a bridge network some time ago, and i botched it, but it worked if i typed the right command after boot, now, i rebooted the server months later and i've no idea about the magic i did, and i'd like to get back to the normal setup anyway, so, quick recap, i now have br0 that doesn't work and that had eth2 linked to, but17:30
tshirtmaneth2 is nowhere to be found, can't find it in ifconfig or "ip a" or "ip l", i only see virtual interfaces here, i did use brctl to delete the bridge, and setup etc/network/interfaces to setup eth2 (and eth0, just in case) back to dhcp, but even after reboot, i see no change, (except there is no br0 anymore), i can still see the physical device in the output of lspci and lshw, but i see no trace17:30
memphistoKLK: ok, but lets see what does ubuntu see; what drivers does it use; then lets go through syslog/kernel.log17:30
tshirtmanof it in any network command i know, any advice?17:30
KLKmemphis,, how do i do that,, sorry iam all new at  this17:31
Pencil2have a good day .  bye17:31
memphistolspci |grep -i net17:31
SlowJimmyI would like to set up the vpn in the net config file how do i do this?17:32
SlowJimmyis it possible to have the vpn reconnect every say 50 minutes?17:32
Kazuskihello17:32
SlowJimmyhi17:32
KLKmemphis iam gettign htis ------> 02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)17:33
KLK10:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)17:33
MR_Sp0ngeBoBhi17:33
nacc!pastebin | KLK17:33
ubottuKLK: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:33
tshirtmanmemphisto: "05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev15)" (hand copied)17:33
memphistolspci -s 05:00.0 -k17:33
nacctshirtman: i believe memphisto is talking to KLK17:33
naccmemphisto: it would help to preface every line with their nick17:33
memphistoKLK: lspci -s 10:00.0 -k17:35
tshirtmanmemphisto: do i need to retype all that or am i looking for some specific info? the kernel module is r8168 if that's what we are looking for17:35
nacctshirtman: afaict, memphisto is not tryign to assist you17:35
memphistotshirtman: sorry , nacc was right, i was talking to KLK17:35
tshirtmanoh17:36
memphistotshirtman: i didn't see your issue17:36
tshirtmanfunny, you put me on something anyway, seems that module is not loaded17:36
MR_Sp0ngeBoBthis is real?17:36
MR_Sp0ngeBoBor fake?17:36
oerhekstshirtman, eth2 ... that is the old way, you should see ens0p1 or somthing like that17:38
tshirtmanyes, that's an ubuntu 16.0417:38
tshirtmani know about the new naming, but neither is there17:38
oerhekshttps://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/17:38
tshirtmanbut thanks17:38
MR_Sp0ngeBoBsome one can chat?17:39
oerhekscan you pastebin the output of 'ip' ??17:39
MR_Sp0ngeBoBim alone in here17:39
tshirtmanseems i don't have the required module for that card with that kernel, i'll try to boot an older one17:39
tshirtmanoerheks: it's a bit long without network, i could take a pic though17:39
MR_Sp0ngeBoByou want kernel?17:39
oerheks!info r8168-dkms17:40
ubottur8168-dkms (source: r8168): dkms source for the r8168 network driver. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.045.08-2 (bionic), package size 92 kB, installed size 1195 kB17:40
oerhekshttps://www.unixblogger.com/2016/08/11/how-to-get-your-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-working-updated-guide/17:40
tshirtmanoh, that's great, thanks17:40
oerheks:-)17:40
oerheksit can take minutes, building17:41
MR_Sp0ngeBoBoh17:41
tshirtmanok, let's give network to that box somehow, or it's going to be a pita to follow that, i'll try tethering or wifi17:42
oerheksno 2nd ethernetport?17:42
MR_Sp0ngeBoBim cant speak english17:43
naccMR_Sp0ngeBoB: this is not a room for chitchat, but for ubuntu support.17:43
tshirtmanoerheks: no, it's going to be fun :)17:44
ddoobbIs the standard Ubuntu update procedure to do a fresh install and install everything again? Is there anything that can help in migrating?17:46
deskwizardHowdy!17:46
MR_Sp0ngeBoBi want exit17:47
MR_Sp0ngeBoBi want quit maksud gw17:47
MR_Sp0ngeBoBlu ngerti ka17:47
naccddoobb: 'standard update procedure'?17:47
leftyfbMR_Sp0ngeBoB: type /quit17:47
deskwizardI was wondering if it was possible to have that service -> https://pastebin.com/b82frDxV run at startup as well, ideally once the gui is up17:47
MR_Sp0ngeBoByes17:47
MR_Sp0ngeBoBi know17:47
MR_Sp0ngeBoBthabks17:47
leftyfbddoobb: Ubuntu has upgrade methods. Especially between LTS releases17:47
ddoobbnacc I mean updating to a new release of Ubuntu.17:48
naccddoobb: you do not need to reinstall to do taht, no.17:48
oerheksupgrading would keep apps, if they are available.17:49
ddoobbleftyfb: I'm suck on a non LTS release, 16.10. No updates through apt-get update17:49
nacc!eolupgrade | ddoobb17:49
ubottuddoobb: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:49
naccddoobb: you are not just a non-LTS, you haven't gotten updates in ... a year?17:49
oerheksdo the old-versions dance, la la la17:50
leftyfbddoobb: follow the link posted, once you get to a recent/supported version of ubuntu, I would highly suggest only upgrading to/sticking with LTS releases17:50
oerheksbut that would get you to 17.04, and again, you need to upgrade?17:50
leftyfbyup17:50
leftyfbthen to 17.10, then to 18.0417:50
ddoobbThis is on a machine that was catching dust for a year, so don't judge me, please.17:50
naccddoobb: if it was just dust, reinstall it then17:51
naccddoobb: you weren't using it for at least a year :)17:51
oerheksbackup, plugin the iso on usb, and you would get the option too, to upgrade to 18.0417:51
leftyfbddoobb: exactly why I'm suggesting sticking with LTS releases. They're supported for 5 years17:51
naccof the default ubuntu flavor at least, to be clear17:51
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ddoobbWould you guys recommend a fresh install or the triple upgrade?17:55
naccddoobb: fresh install, tbh.17:55
leftyfbddoobb: I would recommend a fresh install17:55
wurgleHello, I have a question regarding shell scripts. I have a binary file which uses ffmpeg, when I run it as ./file, it runs as intended. However, when running it inside a shell script, it says that ffmpeg command could not be found. I'm able to run the ffmpeg in the folder I'm running the shell script in.17:55
i-make-robotsnacc - yes?  I'm running apache and php.  your question confuses me, I'm unsure what you mean by "actively"17:56
oerheks1st option: 1 hr, 2nd option can take 1/2 a day17:56
leftyfbwurgle: seek support from the person who developed the binary17:56
nacci-make-robots: what do you mean too much cpu, essentially. if your system is actively serving web pages at a high rate, fpm will use cpu17:56
ddoobbAlright is there anything that can help with migrating apps, settings to the fresh install as opposed to manual everything?17:56
wurgleI'm the one who developed it, as it is a packaged node.js application17:57
leftyfbddoobb: have a backup of your /home .. take note of what applications you have installed and just reinstall them with 1 command17:57
FishPencilIs there a way to reset permissions to defaults?17:57
oerhekswurgle, use full path to that script?17:57
wurgleIs there any charge in permission when a binary is run inside a shell script?17:57
naccFishPencil: not really, no.17:57
leftyfbwurgle: ok, then use the full path to ffmpeg in the binary's code17:57
wurglealso, can you execute binary files as sudo?17:58
sncrmaggotbrain: funkadelic, hell yeah17:58
wurglelike you can sh scripts with sudo sh ....?17:58
leftyfbyes17:58
naccwurgle: of course you can.17:58
naccwurgle: alsh sh is not what you think it is possible17:58
nacc*possibly17:58
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FishPencilnacc: How about: find foo -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \; ; find foo -type f -exec chmod 555 {} \;18:00
naccFishPencil: that would set things to 775 and 55518:00
naccFishPencil: which may or may not be the default for whatever foo is18:01
FishPencilnacc: it seems to be if I touch file and mkdir folder18:01
naccthen your umask is weird18:01
naccFishPencil: it makes no sense for all files to be rx for all users18:01
naccFishPencil: given that most files are *not* executable18:02
FishPencilnacc: you're right, sorry18:02
naccFishPencil: I told you the answer as "notreally, no". Not sure why you are disregarding that.18:02
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oerheksFishPencil, use a VM with ubuntu, to copy permissions.. a lot of work http://sysadminnotebook.blogspot.com/2012/06/how-to-reset-folder-permissions-to.html18:02
naccFishPencil: also every file you created would not be removable by default (since your user doesn't have write access)18:02
FishPencilnacc: 664 looks default for files, 775 for folders18:03
naccFishPencil: that might be the default on your system, but that has no correlation to what the permisssions were on those files or directories18:05
naccFishPencil: did you do something sad like chmod -R ?18:05
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FishPencilnacc:  indeed18:07
OnceMemy phone said "install software on pc" and I clicked on it, while my phone was attached via cable (mtp) to my linux, is it possible that silent mode went on my linux box and installed some shady software? o dialog for install, no password prompr etc was asked from me18:09
naccFishPencil: on / ? or osme path in your home dir?18:10
FishPencilnacc: it's actually in /var/www/domain.com18:10
leftyfbOnceMe: no18:10
TDO|DentonHello! I have a problem I cannot solve. Ubuntu 14.04 is stuck on a black boot screen when booting in VirtualBox. Yesterday the machine worked flawlessly. Any ideas?18:12
erle-Why are Firefox updates coming so late to Ubuntu?18:12
sncrYO chak, you in here? :O18:13
erle-this is really a big risk: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-15/18:13
oerhekserle-, current is 60.0.218:13
erle-oerheks, no, Firefox 61 was released two days ago18:13
erle-oerheks, including many critical security fixes18:14
SlowJimmymy server is running ubuntu 18  and i am trying to update it from my ubuntu 14 laptop through ssh, so far so good. but when i try to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it returns an derror "couldnt resolve host ..." and that it failed to fetch, can this be fixed by adding default route with the ip of my gate way as argument?18:15
leftyfbSlowJimmy: there's no such thing as Ubuntu 18 or 1418:16
SlowJimmy18.418:17
SlowJimmyor was it 18.04?18:17
i-make-robotsi'm trying to set up publickey ssh login.  when i run /usr/sbin/sshd -d i see a "failed publickey" but no reason given.  what am I missing, please?18:18
oerhekserle-, depends on your mirror, i guess, i switched to main but got no update18:18
leftyfbSlowJimmy: Ubuntu 14.04 has ""shared to other computers" as part of network manager18:18
leftyfb!ics | SlowJimmy18:18
ubottuSlowJimmy: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing18:18
erle-oerheks, I have main server18:18
leftyfbi-make-robots: why are you running sshd manually?18:18
erle-oerheks, it was released by Mozilla and Ubuntu does not have it yes18:18
oerheksin the next few days.. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/06/firefox-61-released-with-faster-tab-switching-on-linux .. i am still on 17.1018:19
i-make-robotsleftyfb - to debug why i can't login18:20
erle-oerheks, of course it will come eventually18:20
leftyfbi-make-robots: that's what logs are for18:20
erle-I am just pointing out that it has been two days now which is quite irresponsible18:20
i-make-robotsleftyfb - well i'm stupid.  which log has ssh info?18:20
i-make-robots:)18:20
SlowJimmyleftyfb no i want it to make its own connection not share its connection or let other systems share its connection, none of the sort. just straight forward i want it to update and connect to the repository18:21
SlowJimmyand it says couldnt resolve host18:21
leftyfbi-make-robots: start from the beginning. How exactly did you create your ssh keypair? What,where and how did you copy the public key to the server?18:21
leftyfbSlowJimmy: ok, plug in a network cable and set your network settings18:22
leftyfbSlowJimmy: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en18:22
i-make-robotsleftyfb - thank you.  I make the key pair in bitvise, then exported the .pub and appended it to my authorized_keys file.  there was already one public key in there from another device i sometimes use.18:23
SlowJimmyty, i checked server network status and it claims both adapters are connected among them ethernet18:24
i-make-robotsi made sure there were no extra line endings, etc.18:24
SlowJimmythanks i think your link will clear up the rest18:24
leftyfbi-make-robots: care to pastebin it?18:24
i-make-robotsthe authorized_keys file?18:24
leftyfbSlowJimmy: you're missing DNS config18:24
leftyfbi-make-robots: yes18:24
i-make-robotswhich pastebin do you prefer?  (some people get nasty about some pastebins)18:25
leftyfbi-make-robots: I don't prefer. Though this being ubuntu's support, I tend to use pastebin.ubuntu.com18:25
oerheksnormally i would say, 3 days for firefox, 1 week or more for chromium18:25
i-make-robotsleftyfb - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HBjQKrjPqM/18:26
leftyfbi-make-robots: that doesn't look valid to me18:27
i-make-robotssshd -t says no config errors.18:27
i-make-robotshrm.18:27
nacci-make-robots: i don'tthink sshd -t checks your authorized_keys file18:27
SlowJimmyleftyfb thx i will look into this18:28
nacci-make-robots: also, you should use ssh-copy-id to avoid c&p errors18:28
leftyfbi-make-robots: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/sFMbxTbkMK/18:28
nacci-make-robots: you didn't append your key properly18:28
i-make-robotsnacc - can i ssh-copy-id to the server when the server is refusing anyone without a valid pair?  there's no password login on this box.18:29
leftyfbi-make-robots: try the pastebin I just gave you18:29
nacci-make-robots: ah then no you can't18:29
i-make-robotsleftyfb - good call.  authorized_keys were badly formatted.  thank you!  it works.18:32
shahi18:32
leftyfbi-make-robots: future reference, /var/log/auth.log18:33
i-make-robotsi looked, it was empty18:33
shasomeone knows how can I have some indication in bionic dock for new notifications in app?18:33
leftyfbi-make-robots: it should not be empty if you're running sshd as a service18:33
i-make-robotsnow i have less-awful access, i can get down to the real problem I came to solve: why php-fpm7 is sucking up 50% of the cpu and delivering pages so damn slowly18:33
shafor example, if I got new message in some IM, so the icon background will be changed?18:34
nacci-make-robots: check the logs, i guess18:34
shaanyone?18:35
leftyfbi-make-robots: disable ALL pages. Just put a phpinfo script and hit it and see if you still see resource issues?18:35
oerhekssha, find an indicator for your  "new app" in gnome extentions, something like this https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/use-indicator-applets-gnome-shell18:40
i-make-robotswoah.  mysqld using 101.5% cpu?  something wrong going on there...18:40
leftyfbi-make-robots: If this server is public, I would look into abuse. Maybe a wordpress plugin or comments on some page or forum posts18:42
shaoerheks, thanks but I mean intication in the dock18:45
oerhekssha, yes?18:45
qwebirc15989I gotta connect to irc more often. Joined to ask question on display problem had for last two days, solved while connecting18:46
qwebirc15989How do I add applets though? 18.04, right clicked on top bar doesn't bring up options18:47
deskwizardqwebirc15989: really? damn, let me reconnect ...18:48
deskwizardhehehe ;)18:48
oerhekslook in systemsettings, for app indicators settings18:49
i-make-robotsleftyfb - any tips for investigating abuse?  I don't see spam posts in the forums.18:51
leftyfbi-make-robots: not really. Gotta look up info on your forum. Gotta learn mysql, logging, etc. Basically, you need to be better at running a public server18:53
tomreyni-make-robots: check webserver access logs. 101.5% cpu can be ok, though, if it's a multi core sytem.18:54
qwebirc15989oerheks: not seeing any app indicator settings18:54
oerheksubuntu calls them not ifications18:55
shaoerheks: "yes" what?18:55
oerhekssha yes, you tell us what 'new' app you talk about?18:55
oerheksor do we need to ask?18:55
shaif I have running an app I can see it's icon on the dock (left side), right?18:56
ioriausually18:56
blackswancan anybody suggest a pointy-clicky graphical ldap administration tool suitable for a very small network?18:57
shafor example some messaging app... now if I'm getting a message, i'm not seeing any indication that new message is waiting for me18:57
shain ubuntu 16.04, the background of the app icon, was changing18:58
ioriasha so, we need to ask :  what app is that ?19:00
oerheks!info jxplorer19:00
ubottujxplorer (source: jxplorer): Java LDAP Browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.2+dfsg-5 (bionic), package size 2012 kB, installed size 3279 kB19:00
shaioria, for example Siganl, but any app19:01
ioriasha  it's a snap ?19:01
shanope19:01
ioriasha   from an official ubuntu repo  ?19:02
shanope19:02
oerheksohhhhhh ...19:02
naccseems like a question for the app provider then19:02
oerheksi though we had a bug19:02
oerhekslolz19:02
oerheksnice attitude, sha19:02
shabut, in ubuntu 16.04 it's worked fine19:02
shaand it's not only this app19:03
ioriasha   yeah, that ^ ... but you can stillinstall unity if you want ....19:03
naccsha: so? that's a rather different desktop environment19:03
ioria!info unity-session19:03
ubottuunity-session (source: gnome-session): Unity session, previous ubuntu default experience.. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 55 kB19:03
shano backword comptability?19:03
shabackward19:03
shathanks19:03
blackswanthx oerheks19:04
oerhekshttps://snapcraft.io/signal-desktop19:04
oerheks1.1319:04
ioriasha   try the snap19:04
shathanks19:05
ioriasha   sudo snap install signal-desktop19:05
oerhekshave fun!19:05
Urdenmy ubuntu upgrade hung during compilation of the virtualbox kernel module :(  now i'm afraid to ctrl+c in case something breaks19:05
shai don't like using snaps, heard about malicious ones19:06
shaI prefer official repos19:06
ioriai see, that why you installed an external pkg, right ?19:06
shaofficial package repo19:08
shathis package is missing in ubuntu official repos19:09
naccsha: in the context of this channel, that makes it unofficial19:09
shasnap is official?19:09
ioriaUrden, i'am afraid is a bug ...19:09
Urdenioria, yeah, i'm seeing there's something amiss...  i killed apt-get, then try to re-run it, and it says i need to manually run dpkg --continue -a19:10
ioriasha something in the middle19:11
Urdenso i do, and now its hung at the same spit again19:11
ioriaUrden, maybe you need to dpkg -p virtualbox pkgs19:11
Urden-p does what?19:11
Urdenpurges them?19:12
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ioriaUrden, yes, but only if apt is broken ... can you confirm this ?19:12
Urdenim not sure if apt is broken, it runs fine until it hits this kernel module compiling step...no idea what's causing it to hang19:13
Urdenmy ubuntu upgrade hung during compilation of the virtualbox kernel module :(19:13
shaioria, ok, thanks anyway19:13
ioriaa dkms / secure boot thing19:13
Urdenahhhh19:13
oerheksohh, that dkms build can take minutes, be patient19:13
Urdeni think my friend ran into this same bug earlier19:13
oerheksthere should be an indicator, to assure the user, i see this a lot lately19:14
Urdenoerheks, ok...i can do that.  i thought it was dead cause the CPU usage dropped to normal and nothing seemed to be actively compiling19:14
Urdenthere should be yeah19:14
ioriaUrden, for now, paste  dpkg -l | grep virtualbox19:14
oerheksif your caps lock work, no worries19:14
Urdenok19:14
Urdenthe output of that dpkg -l | grep virtualbox command lists 4 packages19:15
ioriaUrden, we'd like to see the flags19:16
Urdenok sec19:16
ioriaUrden, dpkg -l | grep virtualbox | pastebinit19:16
Urdenhttps://pastebin.com/7Dsgukbm19:16
ioriayep, broken19:17
Urdenoh no :(19:17
ioriaUrden, try to purge with apt.... what i think won't work19:17
Urdenok19:18
Urdenso i go through and purge all 4 packages listed?19:18
iorianope19:18
ioria319:18
ioriaUrden,  virtualbox, -qt, -dkms19:19
Urdenok19:19
Urdenioria, dpkg-query: package 'virtualbox-qt' is not available19:21
Urdenhappens for all 319:21
Urdenman, this is making me feel like a n00b lol.  never had apt break before19:22
ioriaUrden,  for what coomand ?19:22
ioria*command19:22
Urdenyoh@asus:~$ dpkg -p virtualbox-qt19:22
EriC^Urden: it's -P19:23
ioriaUrden,  i think i told you to try first apt ...19:23
Urdenahhh19:23
EriC^or sudo apt-get purge ..19:23
ioriaUrden,  apt,apt, apt :þ19:23
ioriaUrden,  after, we try dpkg -P19:23
Urdenoops19:23
Urdenioria,19:25
Urdenyoh@asus:~$ sudo apt-get purge virtualbox19:25
UrdenE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.19:25
ioriaUrden, ok, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-qt19:26
Urdenok19:26
Urdenthat succeeded19:26
Urdendo the same for the other 2 packages?19:26
ioriaUrden, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox19:27
Urdensuccess19:27
ioriaUrden, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-dkms19:27
Urdendone19:27
ioriaUrden, sudo dpkg --configure -a19:27
Urdenioria, https://pastebin.com/T1kBqj6519:28
ioria!info shim-signed19:29
ubottuPackage shim-signed does not exist in bionic19:29
Urdenhuh...19:29
Urdenso somehow, a package not required is being called by dpkg?19:30
ioriaUrden, dpkg -l | grep shim-signed | pastebinit19:30
ryugunsHEy, on Windows, my parents used this feature that allowed them to type in a pin code instead of a password on the lockscreen.19:31
ryugunsIs there a way to do this with Ubuntu?19:31
Urdenioria, https://pastebin.com/F1gsdPDj19:31
ioriaUrden, sorry, idk what that is19:32
* Urden ponders19:32
Urdenmight have to dig into google19:32
ioriaUrden, remove it  :þ ?19:33
Urdenim very hesitant to remove anything having to do with the bootloader...i dont want to end up with an unbootable system19:33
ioriaUrden, i see19:34
Urdenioria, i'll google around and see what it does...i have a feeling its some sort of wrapper that integrates into secure boot features of EFI or something19:34
Urdenthanks, MS :(19:34
ioriaUrden, dual booting?19:35
Urdennope...100% ubuntu19:35
ioriaUrden, so... remove it19:35
ioriaUrden, it's about Microsoft-signed binary)19:35
Urdenyeah...and the only reason I can imagine thats needed is to trick the bootloader into thinking its booting an MS OS19:35
Urdenprobably some stupid shit with this particular laptop19:36
ioriaUrden, you can always reinstall it19:36
Urdeni *hope* so ;p19:36
hxmullerUrden: shim is a trivial EFI application that, when run, attempts to open and execute another application. That's from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed19:37
ioriaUrden, and about virtualbox,i guess  you need to disable SB19:37
ioriahxmuller, thanx19:37
Urdenahhh ok19:37
Urdenthanks hxmuller19:37
hxmullerwelcome!19:38
Urdeni thought i had SB disabled19:38
Urdeni wonder if it somehow got reenabled19:38
ioriaUrden, are you sure ?19:38
Urdenits just very odd that it would be present in Bionic19:39
Urdeni did upgrade this though, so maybe its left over cruft19:39
ioriaUrden, mokutil --sb-state19:39
i-make-robotsleftyfb - thank you for your generous help.  I really appreciate it.  Stay awesome!19:39
Urdenyoh@asus:~$ mokutil --sb-state19:39
UrdenSecureBoot enabled19:39
Urdenaha19:39
Urdenthats the culprit19:39
ioriayep19:39
Urdennew kernel module for virtualbox must need it disabled19:39
ioriasomething like that19:40
Urdenok that will probably solve the problem then19:40
Urdenexcellent19:40
Urdeni'll disable it on next reboot19:40
ioriaUrden, you  first need a functional apt ...19:40
Urdenand my apt is now fixed19:40
Urdeni just used it to install pastebinit19:40
ioriaUrden, did you remove shim-signed ?19:40
Urdenstill throws the error about shim-signed19:40
Urdennot yet no19:41
ioriaok,19:41
ioriaUrden, sudo apt install --reinstall shim-signed19:41
Urdeni like that idea better19:41
hxmullerKudos to the Ubuntu Dev team. Just installed onto an Asrock AB350M Pro4 with a Ryzen 3 2200G (only had to use nomodeset with liveusb). Looks good so far19:42
=== jstein_ is now known as jstein
Urdenioria, E: Internal Error, No file name for shim-signed:amd6419:43
Urdenprobably because its not in the bionic repos?19:43
ioriaUrden, yep...19:43
Urdenonly way is to remove it then i guess19:43
ioriaUrden, sudo dpkg -P shim-signed19:44
Urdenioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HT2NcJMKn2/19:45
ioriaUrden, sudo apt update && sudo apt install dclock19:46
Urdenioria, done19:46
ioriaUrden, ok... sudo apt purge dclock  :þ19:46
ioriaUrden, unless you want it19:47
=== EriC^ is now known as expl
ioriaUrden, go in bios, didsable SB and try again virtualbox install19:48
rmerrillSo several pages about LUKS say "LUKS is not well-suited for applications requiring many (more than eight) users to have distinct access keys to the same device.19:48
rmerrillIs there an alternate FDE solution for linux which /is/?19:48
Urdenioria, https://pastebin.com/QyZAjtTJ19:48
Urdenit looks like dclock installed and purged fine, but that shim package is still causing issues19:49
Urdenok yeah i guess i'll just reboot now19:49
explUrden: maybe try to see what has the file open?19:49
Urdenget rid of SB19:49
ioriaUrden, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq shim-signed19:49
Urdenexpl, i had the settings app open..probably that hehe19:50
Urdenclosed now19:50
tomreynhxmuller: set a bookmark for https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683 just in case this system will experience soft lockups during low load. you'd then need to set the "power supply idle control" option to "typical" (not 'auto', not 'optimized').19:50
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 196683 in x86-64 "Random Soft Lockup on new Ryzen build" [Normal,New]19:50
Urdenioria, dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove shim-signed, only the config19:51
Urden files of which are on the system; use --purge to remove them too19:51
Urdenshould i just add --purge?19:51
hxmullertomreyn: thanks, saved that for later19:51
ioriaUrden, dpkg -l | grep shim-signed | pastebinit19:51
rmerrillNo clue? :/19:51
Urdenioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3QGbw5JYvx/19:52
ioriaUrden, sudo dpkg -P shim-signed19:52
tomreynrmerrill: whats the use case where you havbe more than 8 admins unlocking a crypto block device?19:53
=== Luke is now known as Guest83596
rmerrilltomreyn: 'admins'?19:53
Urdenioria, https://pastebin.com/SMDDnTLe19:53
rmerrillAnyone who needs to use the machine needs to be able to boot it19:53
Urdenioria, i'm going to try rebooting and disabling secure boot19:54
ioriaUrden, ok19:54
explrmerrill: im curious, why does each need to have a different key?19:54
tomreynrmerrill: well, i guess you could use a shared secret then.19:55
explnot being a smartass, just curious19:55
rmerrillI mean, we could, but it's going to end up on a post-it note on the monitor19:55
rmerrillplus, harder to change it19:55
Urdenbrb19:55
rmerrillthem having to enter a password at all is kind of a pain as it is19:56
rmerrillThe problem with shared secrets is that you lose track of who knows them19:56
rmerrillthe closest thing I've found to a real solution is network-bound disk encryption but afaict no turnkey solution for that exists for ubuntu19:58
rmerrilljust kinda surprises me that nobody in linuxworld has come up with a solution for this when OS X and windows both seem to have them20:00
tomreynrmerrill: there is https://wiki.recompile.se/wiki/Mandos but it's not clear whether it actually solves the issue / just shifts the issue elsewhere / can stand peer review.20:01
rodrigo__hello20:01
explhi rodrigo__20:01
rodrigo__hi20:01
rodrigo__its here where i can get some help from a problem?20:01
explyes20:02
Urdenioria, SB disabled now.  boot took a bit longer after entering the password for my encrypted device20:02
Urdenbut i'm still here so that's good :)20:02
tomreynrmerrill: if everyone booting the system has physical access you could use a shared key on external media, required to be attached to boot the system.20:02
rodrigo__ok, can i explain to you? or have some ppl designated for help, something like this20:02
rmerrilltomreyn: Sure, but then people will be tempted to leave that near the computer in question in which case the same person who steals the computer will likely steal the key20:02
ioriaUrden, yep,  sudo apt putge shim-signed20:02
ioriaUrden, yep,  sudo apt purge shim-signed20:02
explrodrigo__: yes explain the problem in detail and if someone can help they'll reply20:03
rodrigo__ok20:03
Urdenioria, success20:03
tomreynrmerrill: right. without good security policies + good handling, there's no use for encryption.20:03
ioriaUrden, no more errors in installing a pkg ?20:03
Urdenioria, nope!  dclock installed without errors :)20:04
Urdenthanks so much :D  D20:04
ioriaUrden, no problem, good job20:04
Urdenioria, one last thing..     The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:20:05
Urden  shim20:05
UrdenUse 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.20:05
Urdencan i safely remove shim too?20:05
rmerrilltomreyn: I mean... the whole thing with being an engineer is you're not supposed to just blame your users whenever your thing doesn't work :)20:05
Urdenoops he left :(20:06
tim_shopUrden sudo apt autoremove is save to remove it will only delete packages that are no longer needed20:07
tomreynrmerrill: yes, sounds solutions are needed, but also safe operation, by everyone. if either fails, security can be compromiosed. for a possible solution, also look into the hooks discussed here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Remote_unlocking_of_the_root_.28or_other.29_partition20:07
tim_shopsudo apt-get sudo apt autoremove20:08
tim_shopI mean apt-get autoremove20:08
rodrigo__That is my problem: i was doing a minimal installation of ubuntu in a computer, and in this process had done a lot of configuration in some files of /etc/, in bashrc, and others, to set a desktop environment, a login manager, etc. My last issue was configure the mousepad, it was not working properly, i had to reload the module every login, and i was trying to put that reloading to be done in a automatic way. I dont know it was th20:08
rodrigo__is that screwed something up, but now i cant login. I type my login and password, and get the message "Cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied". I tried to boot from a live cd and changing the permissions of /bin, /, and /lib, but nothing works...20:08
Urdentim_shop, ok sounds good.  thanks :)20:10
rodrigo__i was installing the system step-by-step, login manager, wm, etc, and could have messed up something in the way, i think; but the last time i power up the computer, it was to solve that mouse issue20:11
rodrigo__so, it was working until that moment20:12
rmerrilltomreyn: For any kind of network-bound solution like that I can't imagine that someone equipped with a transcript of network traffic from a successful boot plus an image of the disk couldn't decrypt it20:13
=== expl is now known as blabla
rmerrillPlus, also: how do you then secure the machine that provides this data20:14
tomreynrmerrill: right, it shiifts the problem elsewhere.20:15
rmerrillIt seems like all of the good solutions to this involve using secure enclave/TPM/something like that20:16
rmerrillbut that seems to be something that linux people shun20:16
blablarmerrill: is there maybe some transform you could use that translates all their passwords to the key20:20
rmerrillI mean sure but that involves writing code20:20
rmerrillAnd in fact that's what luks is already doing but it has an arbitrary limit of 8 passwords for some reason20:20
tomreynthe reson is the size of the header, they had to limit it somehow. you could maybe have multiple (externally stored?) headers and write extra software to choose which header to use.20:24
tomreynsecure enclave / TPM can be nice, if you can be sure that you are the only one to control it. that's not the case with most hardware / firmware implementations these days.20:25
beshhello20:32
blablarodrigo__: are you in a live usb right now?20:32
rodrigo__no20:32
rodrigo__im using my notebook20:32
blablaboot one to troubleshoot the system20:32
rodrigo__ok20:32
rodrigo__im turning on the pc20:33
rodrigo__what information would be useful?20:34
blablarodrigo__: first mount the partition, then "ls -l /mnt/bin/bash"20:34
rodrigo__ok20:34
beshmay i ask for a suggestion regarding bash : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/gMRxycsVNv/20:35
beshi mean scripts :)20:36
Battlehey all, so everything was fine and has been, i noticed there were like 50 updates availabel so i ran the update, and it upgraded everything however, there seems to b something seriously wrong with the kernel upgrade20:38
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/uPnge8KJ20:38
naccBattle: i think you need a -f install, not upgrade at this point20:39
Battlethat produces same errors as above20:39
Battlei will paste bin that output too on emoment20:40
naccBattle: ok20:40
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/Y6AjgvQM20:40
nacc!info linux-image-generic xenial20:41
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.128.134 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB20:41
nacc!info linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial20:41
ptbranco!list20:41
ubottulinux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.45.64 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)20:41
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naccBattle: it seems like -46 hasn't hit the -updates yet everywhere, maybe? you can probably manually purge it with dpkg20:42
Battlesorry, im a bit of a noob, does that mean the update is showing there but isnt actually existent yet ?20:42
naccBattle: that shouldn't be possible, but yeah20:43
BattleI see20:44
BattleI'm a bit worried about restarting my system, that it wont boot up due to the errors about not finding my disk...20:44
naccBattle: that particularly kernel, is supposedly only in 17.10 -proposed20:44
Battleoh right20:44
naccBattle: did you do something funky to your sources.list?20:45
rodrigo__blabla: lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ ls -l /media/lubuntu/b5ba86a7-3476-4ab4-8bbb-5e335c56bb39/bin/bash20:45
rodrigo__-rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 73 jun 24 23:31 /media/lubuntu/b5ba86a7-3476-4ab4-8bbb-5e335c56bb39/bin/bash20:45
Battlenot at all, at least nott o my knowledge...20:45
Battlelemme check it out20:45
naccBattle: you may want to report it to #ubuntu-kernel20:45
Battlethis is my sources.list https://pastebin.com/q1jBjmph20:46
naccBattle: yeah that looks ok; the i'd bring it up in #ubuntu-kernel, as rmadison also says it should only be at -35 still20:48
Battleokay, thanks20:48
Battlein the mean time, how can i fix this so that i can use apt upgrade with errors?20:48
BattleI tried dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq linux-image-4.13.0-36-generic20:48
Battleit just gives me same error as before XD20:49
naccBattle: you might need to --force-all, nothing is using that package yet (afaict)20:51
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/gx7CMTHa20:53
Battle:(20:53
oerhekseject && eject -t20:56
blablarodrigo__: no +x there20:58
blablarodrigo__: did you run some kind of chmod command?20:58
Battlenacc do you know how i can disable all kernel updates ? (just for now)20:58
naccBattle: grr, this is quite a pain to resolve20:58
rodrigo__just for .sh scripts20:59
BattleI agree XD20:59
naccBattle: not trivially when dpkg/apt are both kind of messed up20:59
rodrigo__what is wrong?20:59
naccBattle: unfortunately, i need to work on something else right now20:59
blablarodrigo__: try "grep chmod /mnt/root/.bash_history /mnt/var/log/auth.log"20:59
BattleI googled quickly, and some people said what worked for them was to delete the files  from in here /var/lib/dpkg/info/20:59
naccBattle: hopefully someone can help; it's silly that removing hte -extra package tries to build the initrd when you're also removing that initrd21:00
rodrigo__ok21:00
Battleso this i hope fixes it but now i want to stopt he update from getting them again XD21:00
naccBattle: yeah, i would suggest modifing the postrm of the package21:00
nacc*pacakges21:00
Battlealright thanks illl look into9 this more i must go for nwo, thank you again :)21:01
rodrigo__and do what next?21:08
rodrigo__blabla:21:08
rodrigo__sorry the delay21:09
blablarodrigo__: any commands appeared?21:09
rodrigo__no21:10
blablarodrigo__: ok good21:10
rodrigo__the file .bash_history do not exist, actually21:10
blablarodrigo__: run sudo chmod 755 /mnt/bin/bash21:11
blablarodrigo__: what's the status of the other files there? try "ls -l /mnt/bin" and pastebin the results21:11
=== juno is now known as Guest64702
rodrigo__ok21:16
rodrigo__in auth.log i got theses results21:16
rodrigo__https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jqG3JBnh32/21:17
blablathat last one is kind of odd21:17
blablathere's no /bin/bash/mouse cause /bin/bash isn't a dir21:19
blablarodrigo__: anyways what's the output on "ls -l /mnt/bin" ?21:20
rodrigo__https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xJjQpkQjgq/21:20
blablarodrigo__: looks all good, try booting the system!21:21
rodrigo__ive already tried21:21
rodrigo__no good21:21
blablaeven after the chmod 755 ?21:22
rodrigo__yep21:22
blablawhat did it say?21:22
rodrigo__cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied21:22
rodrigo__ (in portuguese, dont now the exact expression in english)21:22
rodrigo__know*21:23
blablaso you just mounted it again correct?21:23
rodrigo__?21:23
rodrigo__yes21:23
rodrigo__i rebooted on live cd21:24
blablaok try "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"21:24
blablarodrigo__: what's giving you that error? when's it happening?21:26
rodrigo__when i boot from the system partition21:26
rodrigo__on the login screen21:26
blablathe tty?21:27
rodrigo__i use my login and password, and nothing happens21:27
rodrigo__in the terminal i get this message21:27
blablaoh21:27
blablaok21:27
rodrigo__and the worst is that i dont have activated the root account, so i cant login in any way21:27
blablait's weird21:28
rodrigo__i tried this21:28
blablawe'll try to dive into it21:28
rodrigo__"for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"21:28
FurretUberWhat is required to make Ubiquity install work? After it copies the files, it's failing to install with many permission denied messages, similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/175417421:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1754174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] "Install Lubuntu" fails with several commands not found and permission denied" [Critical,Fix released]21:28
blablaok, type "sudo chroot /mnt" rodrigo__21:28
rodrigo__ok21:30
rodrigo__done21:30
rodrigo__got an error21:30
blablarodrigo__: can't execute /bin/bash?21:30
rodrigo__no21:31
rodrigo__ill paste here21:31
rodrigo__with modules21:31
blablamodules O.o21:31
blablaok21:31
rodrigo__https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Vqj3tpyrhj/21:32
blablarodrigo__: is "ls -l /mnt/bin/bash" still +x ?21:33
rodrigo__yes21:34
rodrigo__its -rwxr-xr-x21:34
blablaso the chroot didn't work?21:34
blablayou're not now root@...#?21:34
rodrigo__im in sudo -i21:35
blablais it the root of the live usb or ubuntu install?21:35
blablaanything in "ls /home" ?21:35
rodrigo__home directory its in another partition21:36
rodrigo__lliveusb21:36
blablaoh21:36
rodrigo__i cant login in the ubuntu installation21:36
blablaok try this, sudo nano /mnt/etc/passwd21:37
blablachange the shell for your user to "/bin/sh"21:38
blablasee what happens when you try to login to the tty21:38
rodrigo__ok21:39
blablakind of curious why chrooting would cause modprobe to start loading modules and stuff21:39
rodrigo__:s21:40
blabla?21:41
rodrigo__rebooting21:42
rodrigo__i think it could be some misconfiguration from my part21:42
blabladunno21:44
blablalooks like some missing module, sudo apt-get install --reinstall <something> should fix it21:45
blabla!find psmouse21:45
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 225 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=psmouse&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all21:46
blabla!find psmouse.ko21:46
ubottuFile psmouse.ko found in linux-modules-4.15.0-20-generic, linux-modules-4.15.0-20-lowlatency, linux-modules-4.15.0-22-generic, linux-modules-4.15.0-22-lowlatency, linux-modules-4.15.0-23-generic, linux-modules-4.15.0-23-lowlatency21:46
blablarodrigo__: any luck on the tty?21:46
rodrigo__its starting21:47
rodrigo__its an old pc21:47
rodrigo__512 mb ram21:47
rodrigo__yes21:47
rodrigo__i managed to login in tty21:48
blablacool21:48
blablatry running "bash" as your user21:48
rodrigo__how21:48
rodrigo__bash?21:48
blablayeah just that21:48
rodrigo__it asks for sudo password21:48
blablahuh21:48
blablatype "sudo -l"21:49
blablado you remember editing something sudo related?21:49
rodrigo__no21:49
rodrigo__entrance for default to rodrigo in rod-pc:21:49
blablahow's that possible, running bash asks for sudo O.o21:50
blabladid you edit the bash binary somehow?21:50
blablarodrigo__: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash"21:51
rodrigo__env_reset, mail_badpass, secure_path=/usr/local/sbin\:/usr/local/bin\:/usr/sbin\:/usr/bin\:/usr/bin\:/sbin\:/bin\:/snap/bin21:51
rodrigo__ok21:51
blablawhat does "which bash" give?21:51
rodrigo__reinstalling bash21:52
rodrigo__gives: /bin/bash21:53
blablaaha21:53
rodrigo__now i could enter in bash21:53
blablaaha cool great21:53
rodrigo__without sudo21:53
rodrigo__oh21:53
blablatry "chsh" as your user21:53
rodrigo__solved21:53
rodrigo__managed to login in the X session21:54
blablaand switch it back to bash21:54
rodrigo__ok21:54
rodrigo__thanks man21:55
blablarodrigo__: i've got to wonder, what was the deal with the old bash binary, was your system compromised at some point? did you install badly written software?21:55
rodrigo__no21:55
rodrigo__everything from ubuntu repositories21:55
blablatry "ls -l /bin/bash" again21:55
blablawe can compare sizes21:55
blabladefinitely something was odd, the old size was 7321:56
rodrigo__https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QzmG6RHs9t/21:57
blablamaybe it was some script, it's so small to be a binary21:57
rodrigo__i could have replaced the bash file with some other file accidentally?21:57
blablayeah possibly21:58
Pete234Has anyone used slackware and if so, although it's an ubuntu channel, can you state the differences?21:59
rodrigo__i see21:59
rodrigo__ok21:59
naccreplacing bash with something else 'accidentally' is a big accident21:59
rodrigo__haha21:59
naccPete234: totally offtopic, please follow the channel guidelines21:59
blablafirst line starts with 'sudo' too nacc21:59
blablai kind of wish we "cat /bin/bash" 'd it now21:59
oerheksPete234, find Crazytux in ##linux, he is the distrowatch expert22:00
rodrigo__the computer is very old, so i was trying to do a minimal installation with ubuntu base22:00
Pete234Not really, it is also linux22:00
naccPete234: and this is not a "linux" chat room.22:00
blablarodrigo__: i think as long you you're fairly confident nobody did something malicious you're ok22:01
alpha_Aquilaemickey trump ?22:01
Pete234Lol, you mean that Ubuntu is Windows22:01
rodrigo__yes, it was just me22:01
rodrigo__thanks a lot for the help22:01
blablano problem!22:01
naccPete234: I don't know what you're talking about. Please follow the guidelines.22:01
Pete234The guidelines refer to Ubuntu which is Linux, so I am not sure what you are talking about either22:02
naccPete234: this is the ubuntu support channel, not the general linux discussion channel.22:04
naccPete234: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu support, so please take it to an appropriate channel.22:04
alpha_Aquilaeubuntrump 18.06 dynamic donald22:04
grgyikes22:04
Pete234Lol, you support Ubuntu, therefore, you may as well discuss some technicalities22:05
grgis that ubuntu with a lack of a firewall?22:05
naccalpha_Aquilae: grg: please stay ontopic too :)22:05
grg:+1:22:05
alpha_Aquilaeya!22:05
oerheksPete234, thank you, we will22:05
naccPete234: no, that is not the purpose of this channel. Your question is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux.22:05
Pete234Off topic means that you are not really providing support....maybe you could try making those channels one22:07
naccPete234: what? please use the appropriate channel. You don't have an ubuntu support topic, so this is not the correct channel. Also, in the time you've spent arguing, I'm fairly sure you could have googled and found your answer.22:09
Pete234Come on budd, dont be so hard on yourself, we are just chatting about technical stuff. It's not politics or better yet, it is not an institution22:11
blackflowthere's also #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu related, non-support discussion.22:11
Pete234cool, I will try that... in the meantime, why dont you just tell me a few things in regards to slackware vs ubuntu22:12
oerheksthat is enough, Pete234, keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks.22:12
oerheksyou are told where to go22:12
geniiPete234: #ubuntu-discuss would be the channel for that partucular discussion22:13
Pete234Sure! So, let me ask you a technical question? What should I do to make Ubuntu 18.0 even more exciting as far as features are concerned?22:14
leftyfbPete234: there's no such thing as Ubuntu 18.022:15
leftyfbPete234: that's also not a support question. Try #ubuntu-offtopic22:15
oerhekswrite some software, and publish it.22:15
oerheks!contribute22:15
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu22:15
Pete234Cool.... but that is what I am using...Is there a different name out there?22:16
naccPete234: you are using "18.04" not "18.0" probably.22:16
Pete234haha, got you... Then what is the answer then22:16
leftyfbPete234: Ubuntu versions are based on the year and month they were released. 18.04 refers to April(04) 201822:17
naccPete234: the answer to what?22:17
Pete234to enhance 18.04 features22:17
naccPete234: as leftyb said, that's not a support question, and oerheks gave you a link to contribute with22:18
leftyfbPete234: again, not a support question. Try googling for "things to do after ubuntu install"22:18
naccPete234: do you have any experience with open source software?22:18
Pete234Like freebsd22:19
FurretUberWhat is required to make Ubiquity install work? After it copies the files, it's failing to install with many permission denied messages, similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/175417422:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1754174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] "Install Lubuntu" fails with several commands not found and permission denied" [Critical,Fix released]22:22
leftyfbFurretUber: Is this during a default install of ubuntu on a regular PC on a regular storage device?22:24
FurretUberI'm trying to install on a VM. The image was created using debootstrap22:25
oerheksthere has been an update, ubiquity22:25
oerheks!info ubiquity22:25
ubottuubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 18.04.14.2 (bionic), package size 3175 kB, installed size 17175 kB22:25
oerheks .14.222:26
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Guest15886hola22:26
Guest15886hay alguien aqui?22:26
leftyfb!es | Guest1588622:27
ubottuGuest15886: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.22:27
Guest15886hi22:27
Guest15886any cant helpe with compiz on ubuntu 18.0422:27
Guest15886?22:27
FurretUberThe current Ubiquity version is newer than the one on 18.04 image, maybe this is causing the problems?22:28
Guest15886any cant help me with compiz on Ubuntu 18.0422:28
Guest15886???22:28
nacc!patience | Guest1588622:29
ubottuGuest15886: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/22:29
oerhekscompiz and xorg on 18.04 , ask away, wait and see22:29
oerhekswhat videocard, what did you try, following a guide?22:29
FurretUberUsing the older version of Ubiquity failed too. I don't understand what package(s) my image is lacking22:43
oerhekshard to tell, without log22:48
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FurretUberI'm regenerating the image, I'll test again when it finishes and send the log22:51
Battlehey all so im having a problemw ith my apt upgrade, a user helped me earlier and was able to identify that for some reason, my ubuntu 16.04 received an updated kernel -45 which wasnt available for ubuntu 16.04. im not struggling to get rid of it and mark-hold to prevent it from coming again23:01
Battleapt upgrade, seems ot list the kernel update (regardless of mark hold) and i suspect its because its partially installed...or broke during install....and now i cannot get rid of it23:01
leftyfbBattle: please pastebin what you're talking about23:02
Battleill get some fresh ones, one moment23:02
tomreynBattle: did you mean to write: "i'm NOW struggling to get rid of it [...]"?23:02
Battleyes sorry23:02
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/pz2X0UDy23:04
tomreyna better approach than holding some versions or changing apt source priorities would probably be to remove the the apt source which provides the unintended kernel version(s).23:04
Battlethis is kinda worrying: grub-probe: error: disk `mduuid/4351570248a139c2fdf813affcbca916' not found.23:04
leftyfbBattle: one problem at a time please23:05
Battlethat was inside the same error23:05
Battlewell part of it23:05
Battleim not sure which source is providing this kernel , i showed someone earlier my sources.list and he said it looked normal23:06
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade23:06
leftyfbBattle: pastebin the output of that23:06
Battleokay23:06
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/YdQEBdMq23:07
Battleahh so   http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main is providing it23:07
tomreyn"apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME" will tell23:09
andrew09Any idea on how to use Cydia Impcator on Ubuntu?23:09
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.0423:09
leftyfbandrew09: you'll have to contact the developer of Cydia Impcator for support with Cydia Impcator23:10
Battleleftyfb: https://pastebin.com/JxhDuhYQ23:11
leftyfbok23:11
leftyfbBattle: uname -a (no need for pastebin)23:11
BattleLinux server 4.13.0-43-generic #48~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 17 12:56:46 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:11
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic23:12
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Battleleftyfb: https://pastebin.com/mpuDUfHg23:12
Battleshould i try apt-get -f install?23:13
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-4.13.0-45-generic23:13
Battleit says same output as before23:13
leftyfboh, I see23:13
leftyfbmy bad23:13
geniiOne of your previous pastebins would seem to indicate the reason it's having problems removing it is because it can't determine the root device and a disk UUID for your raid device md/2 is not to be found23:14
leftyfbBattle: I have proposed repo added. You could try adding that and then installing linux-image-generic-hwe-16.0423:14
FurretUberoerheks: leftyfb: Here is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WbjCgbxNQC/23:14
BattleI was wondering why it said it cannot find the disk/device itself.. i could understand packages and files relating to it, but the device itself is not found?23:15
leftyfbFurretUber: sorry, I won't be helping with a custom installer image23:15
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Battleleftyfb: I'm sorry i dont follow what you mean about "proposed repo" ?23:15
leftyfbBattle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed23:16
Battleah23:16
geniiBattle: Does: cat /proc/mdstat   ...say anything unusual?23:19
FurretUberOk, is there some place to obtain Ubiquity information? The wiki has information for older releases, as Ubuntu 6.0623:19
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/5MAPwvCV23:20
oerheksFurretUber, this is an UEFI system?23:20
FurretUberYes23:20
Battlegenii that link was for you https://pastebin.com/5MAPwvCV23:20
Battleseems/looks normal to me, nothing showing errors from what i can see23:20
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Battlegenii https://pastebin.com/TPQTBNVL this shows errors though23:21
leftyfbBattle: I would enable proposed, install the 4.15 kernel from linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 and remove any others causing problems23:21
geniiBattle: Yes, I'm just curious because of the md/2 and missing UUID message from earlier23:22
Battleleftyfb: yeah im trying to, apparently add-apt-repo... doesnt exist as a command, and i cannot install the software to provide that command as it says errors about th ekernal and that i should try apt-get -f install23:22
leftyfbBattle: you could just make your /etc/apt/sources.list look like this https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/pttV3r9nDy/23:23
Battlethanks that appears to be oding something, apt-get update is running now, lotta stuff being done23:25
leftyfbyou'll probably get some other updates as well23:25
Battleerm23:27
Battlehttps://pastebin.com/DtDLFGcx23:27
Battle(that happens after awhole bunch of "get: XX http....."23:27
Battle)23:28
Battlei notice the error from before about the disk is there too in this one: grub-probe: error: disk `mduuid/4351570248a139c2fdf813affcbca916' not found.23:28
RealUnix28200Hello23:29
RealUnix28200cc23:29
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-generic-hwe-16.0423:30
Battleseems i cannot use pastebin.com anymore due to limit exceeded lol, found another: https://paste.ee/p/rYjN023:32
monkersHi, how can i have one linux server shutdown another remotely without prompting for password?23:33
monkersthis is for ups low battery shutdown23:36
monkersi guess i could have a nut-server and nut-clients ?23:36
Gorodish   /quit23:37
leftyfbmonkers: nut-server/client23:38
leftyfbthat's the proper way23:38
omegacan ubuntu run on a rasberry pi 323:39
leftyfbBattle: ok, looks like we need to get past that grub error23:39
omegaor u gotta use ubuntu mate23:39
leftyfbomega: ubuntu mate = ubuntu23:39
omegaso they're exactly the same?23:39
leftyfbomega: apart from the default DE and the arm arch, yes23:39
omegaaahhh kk ty23:40
omegado u happen to know the hostname and default pass ?23:40
omegais it ubuntu?23:40
omegasame as ubuntu?23:40
monkersok thanks leftyfb23:40
leftyfbomega: raspberrypi.org/downloads look there for info on it23:40
Battleleftyfb: any ideas? :(23:41
leftyfbBattle: ok, looks like we need to get past that grub error23:41
Battleyeah any ideas on what i could do to fix that?23:41
Battleits so random... i never had any issues updating packages and so on, until this kernel one23:42
leftyfbBattle: I don't think it's kernel related23:43
BattleI agree, i think the issue is related to the grub setup23:43
leftyfbBattle: you've got an encrypted volume?23:43
Battlenot to my knowledge, no23:43
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt remove cryptsetup23:43
Battleokay that removed a bunhc of stuff23:45
leftyfbplease pastebin what stuff before moving forward23:46
FurretUberIs there a place with updated information about Ubiquity?23:47
Battlelead_pipe23 https://paste.ee/p/udclA23:48
Battleops23:48
Battleleftyfb https://paste.ee/p/udclA *23:48
leftyfbFurretUber: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity23:48
leftyfbBattle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 cryptsetup23:48
leftyfbBattle: is there anything in /etc/crypttab ?23:49
Battleleftyfb: https://paste.ee/p/hZ0qn23:49
Battleno that file is empty23:50
Battleexcept for: v23:50
Battleexcept for: # <target name> <source device>         <key file>      <options>23:50
leftyfbBattle: do you honest, I'm not the person to be helping you troubleshoot grub UUID problems23:51
leftyfb%s/do you/to be23:51
oerheksFurretUber, #ubuntu-installer according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity23:51
oerheksnot sure what issue it is,  vm or uefi or your chrooted install23:52
FurretUberI'm investigating, there is one bug in Launchpad about a python2 package that should be installed, I'll test installing it. Thank you23:53
Battleah I see23:53
Battlethank you for trying23:53
oerheksoh that, python2.7 is optional..23:54
oerheks!info python23:54
ubottupython (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.15~rc1-1 (bionic), package size 136 kB, installed size 624 kB23:54
oerheks!info python323:54
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.6.5-3 (bionic), package size 9 kB, installed size 74 kB23:54
qwebirc64446Still trying to add applets in 18.04. I right click on top panel, but don't get anything23:58
leftyfbqwebirc64446: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/use-indicator-applets-gnome-shell   # found after I googled for "ubuntu 18.04 add applet"23:59

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