[00:00] <NaTeK> :)
[00:00] <oerheks> i think so, maybe someone from the #ubuntu-kernel team could better answer that
[00:01] <oerheks> oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Kernel.2FFAQ.2FGeneralFindingDocumentation.Where_do_I_find_the_Kernel_Team.27s_documentation.3F
[00:06] <hxmuller> oerheks: I think I've discovered my answer. Apparently if you enable CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC when compiling the kernel, it stores the config in /proc/config.gz, which when read, gives the same comment about "Automatically generated file"
[00:07] <bluegrass900> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu MATE. In the top right corner at the left of my left-most icon on the panel I have a little green | just like that
[00:07] <bluegrass900> just a line like that that is green that doesn't seem to be for anything.
[00:07] <bluegrass900> It's there sometimes, not always.
[00:08] <bluegrass900> Is this some kind of spyware?
[00:08] <bluegrass900> Doesn't seem legitimate to me. All my other icons are white.
[00:08] <bluegrass900> This vertical line is green.
[00:12] <hxmuller> oerheks: scratch that, the kbuild system adds that comment. i just never noticed it before
[00:17] <temno> hi...I need help about UBUNTU installation
[00:18] <temno> I tried all the instruction listed on the official website
[00:18] <temno> for DVD and USB device but ....no way
[00:19] <xch4d03t> halo all
[00:19] <temno> I'm using a MacBookPro  and I'd like to improve an old Acer extensa usin Windows XP
[00:19] <temno> with UBINU system
[00:19] <Randolf> Hello xch4d03t.
[00:21] <illuminated> do you think l2tp or pptp vpns have more universal support --- from android/ios/windows/mac....
[00:22] <illuminated> sorry which one is more universally supported on all the devices... pptp or l2tp
[00:23] <temno> hi there......
[00:24] <RoadRunner> compiled pidgin 2.13.0 and would like to test video, but need someone to do it with - a volunteer needed (if shy just draw a happy face on paper in front of camera), thanks :)
[00:24] <tomreyn> temno: so you'd like to install ubuntu to the mac, or to the acer extensa, or both?
[00:25] <temno> I'm downloading files from a Mac but I'd like to improve the ACER
[00:26] <dell> hello
[00:26] <dell> I cannot get Xbuntu working with HDMI
[00:26] <Guest10016> I mean
[00:26] <Guest10016> Ubuntu with Xubuntu-desktop
[00:26] <Guest10016> Image works fine
[00:26] <Guest10016> But sound does not
[00:26] <temno> I followed all the instructions from the official website for DVD ur USB device and I downloaded aps to do it but....no way
[00:27] <Guest10016> How to setup sound with xubuntu-desktop?
[00:28] <xch4d03t> github
[00:28] <temno> I plug the USB or I insert the DVD with file ISO even if I chnged the priority on the BIOS but Windows XP starts again
[00:30] <temno> ...
[00:31] <temno> ...
[00:31] <xch4d03t> how to earm money in internet use ubuntu
[00:33] <Bashing-om> temno: The downlded .iso fike has yo be burned as an "image
[00:34] <Bashing-om> " " to the install medium .
[00:34] <temno> I did it
[00:34] <Guest10016> Can someone please help me with Xubuntu-desktop HDMI?
[00:34] <temno> I really followed all the instructions on the official website
[00:35] <Bashing-om> temno: then as bios does not "see" it .. does not have good boot code . either the .iso is corrupted or the burn is bad .
[00:35] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | temno
[00:35] <temno> Ok...but I used even the USB
[00:36] <temno> When I tried to do a CHECKSUM ....computer say... NO! :-)
[00:36] <temno> I tried 6 times
[00:37] <temno> That's the reason why I'm explaining which machines I'm using
[00:38] <tomreyn> Guest10016: i think this is only supported with a mainline kernel (if at all).
[00:38] <tomreyn> !mainline | Guest10016
[00:39] <tomreyn> temno: so when you created the bootable USB stick, how did you do it exactly, and were any errors reported during the process?
[00:39] <temno> I feel like in 1997 in this chat !!!! Uffffff
[00:39] <andy10134> hi)?
[00:39] <tomreyn> hi andy10134
[00:40] <andy10134> How are you? n.n
[00:40] <tomreyn> andy10134: fine, thanks. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[00:41] <temno> Dear Tomreyn, I followed the instructions...It means that I've tried with TERMINAL.....I downloaded RosaImageWriter and other 3 software to move the ISO immage to USB device
[00:41] <tomreyn> temno:  which instructions did you follow there?
[00:42]  * tomreyn never heard of "RosaImageWriter"
[00:42] <temno> and finally I burned a DVD that I could not think I had in my home after 12 yeras!
[00:42] <temno> :-)
[00:43] <temno> In the italian version of the official website for UBUNTU
[00:43] <temno> there are suggestion about using specific softwares to create an USB stick with the file ISO I already downloaded
[00:44] <temno> If you have suggestion please....tell me...I'll follow It
[00:46] <swift110_> hey all
[00:47] <tomreyn> temno: is thgis the tutorial you followed? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-macos#0
[00:48] <temno> Yes....I tried even with this tutorial
[00:48] <temno> for Eatcher
[00:49] <temno> YES YES YES.......I'm going crazy
[00:49] <temno> I changed 3 USB devices
[00:49] <temno> I feel stupid!
[00:49] <tomreyn> temno: so when you tried with etcher, did etcher report that writing it succeeded?
[00:49] <temno> Yes
[00:50] <temno> I put the USB stick in the old PC and WINDOWS XP starts again
[00:51] <temno> That's the reason why I can't find any explanation
[00:51] <tomreyn> temno: once you had the stick created on the mac, did you follow this tutorial to install on the acer? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0
[00:53] <tomreyn> temno: acer computers can have bios / uefi restrictions to only allow booting windows systems. also, there a generally bios / uefi settings which can prevent booting from usb, or from anything other than the primary storage (HDD). did you check your BIOS / UEFI thoroughly to make sure no such issues are getting in the way?
[00:54] <temno> Dear Tomreyn....I appreciate your efforts but this tutorial seems to be useful if the file ISO already starts......
[00:54] <tomreyn> temno: also, can you tell the exact model of the acer computer?
[00:55] <tomreyn> temno: not only, it also discusses system requirements.
[00:55] <temno> ASPIRE 57352
[00:55] <temno> Old...but not so bad! :-)
[00:55] <tomreyn> also step #4 of the tutorial discusses how to boot off usb
[00:56] <temno> ok..... I will try again.....Thank you very much for your time
[00:57] <temno> Thanks Tomreyn!
[00:57] <tomreyn> temno: i'm currently searching the web to see whether there are specific hints on how to install linux on this system.
[00:57] <temno> ok
[00:57] <tomreyn> feel free to wait another 5 minutes or just try it again.
[00:58] <stubuntu> hello
[00:58] <tomreyn> temno: are you sure the model number is exactly "57352", since i can't find much with exactly this
[00:59] <tomreyn> there are some variants which start with "5735", though
[00:59] <Bashing-om> temno: maybe Vendor lockin ?? See: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2390593 for some aids.
[01:00] <stubuntu> I'm new to online chat, is my message being received
[01:00] <Bashing-om> stubuntu: 5X5 ,
[01:01] <tomreyn> stubuntu: we can read you
[01:01] <stubuntu> I'm new to the lingo, what is 5x5 ?
[01:01] <temno> 5735Z.......sorry
[01:02] <temno> ZED not 2
[01:02] <Bashing-om> stubuntu: On a scale of 1-5 - load and clear  at the top of the scale :)
[01:03] <stubuntu> ok thanx, is there a website where I can go to learn about online chatting and the lingo ?
[01:05] <tomreyn> maybe irchelp.org
[01:05] <oerheks> stubuntu, freenode website
[01:05] <tomreyn> this system has an intel pentium dual core T3200 CPU. seems to be 64-bit already, so you're lucky.
[01:06] <tomreyn> https://ark.intel.com/products/37160/
[01:06] <stubuntu> ok, I'll check those out.  Thanx for your help. Bye for now.
[01:06] <temno> but......????
[01:06] <oerheks> make sure hdd is set to AHCI, xp is known for not using that
[01:07] <kofi> mornin
[01:08] <tomreyn> temno: latest bios is available at ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/Archiv/notebook/aspire_5735/vista/Bios/v1.10.zip
[01:09] <temno> I should install the new BIOS on the old machine?
[01:09] <oerheks> an some bios versions, usb boot needs to set in 2 places, boot priority and hdd priority
[01:10] <tomreyn> temno: if this old system currently uses an older bios, it may be a good idea to install the latest bios version available to ensure compatibility.
[01:11] <tomreyn> bios updates dont always make things better, but most of the time they do
[01:11] <temno> Ok....thank you very much...I really appreciate...I love you Tomreyn......! :-)
[01:11] <temno> Ah HA HA AH
[01:11] <tomreyn> dont you love oerheks then?
[01:12] <temno> I'll try tomorrow
[01:12] <temno> oerheks????
[01:12] <tomreyn> the other person who was just helping you, you know
[01:12] <temno> I don't know what you are talking about
[01:12] <tomreyn> anyways, good luck
[01:13] <temno> Bye
[01:13] <temno> Oh My God......I've been concentrated only about you!
[01:13] <temno> :-)
[01:14] <temno> Thanks to Oerheks too....
[01:14] <oerheks> let us know :-)
[01:14] <temno> I'm an idiot not able to use properly this OLD F......G way of comunication! :-)
[01:15] <temno> Bye guys....goodnight! In Rome is quite 4 am
[01:21] <tomreyn> aspire 5735Z comes with an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M - good luck!
[01:48] <kofi> hey guys
[02:19] <root_> hey
[02:21] <RoadRunner> could someone help me test pidgin's video chat?
[02:23] <Chicken_Wrap> RoadRunner: Do you need an account of any sort to video chat?
[02:23] <Chicken_Wrap> Probably a dumbass question but I’ve never used Pidgin.
[03:18] <franzgl> hey
[03:19] <franzgl> anyone there?
[03:20] <strive> Hi.
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> !ask | franzgl
[04:01] <n35xdxb0> anyone have any idea how to get ubuntu to mute after suspend?
[04:01] <n35xdxb0> would be nice if laptop automatically muted after it enters suspend
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> n35xdxb0: i think there is an existing bug for that, as users wanted to hear their music after suspend
[04:05] <n35xdxb0> lotuspsychje: hmm, interesting
[04:05] <n35xdxb0> for me it's the other way round. i close laptop. it suspends
[04:05] <n35xdxb0> then i open it in library or cafe or somewhere, and the sound blares out
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> n35xdxb0: on wich ubuntu release is this?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> n35xdxb0: and what kind of sound is blaring out?
[04:35] <germmand> Hello. :)
[04:55] <neo1> I install ubuntu server 18.04 on virtualbox but dont work networking! I have 2 ethernet enp0s3 & enp0s8 and virtual network configuration used from NAT and host-only (192.168.56.1)
[04:56] <neo1> networkctl status :
[04:56] <neo1> ●        State: routable
[04:56] <neo1>        Address: 10.0.2.15 on enp0s3
[04:56] <neo1>                 192.168.56.101 on enp0s8
[04:56] <neo1>                 192.168.56.103 on enp0s8
[04:56] <neo1>                 fe80::a00:27ff:fe2a:ff66 on enp0s3
[04:56] <neo1>                 fe80::a00:27ff:fe10:c1c6 on enp0s8
[04:56] <neo1>        Gateway: 192.168.56.1 on enp0s8
[05:03] <shahrokh> I install ubuntu server 18.04 on virtualBox but dont working network. virtualbox netconfiguration is NAT and Hosy-only(192.168.56.1)
[05:07] <shahrokh> Do you have idea?
[05:08] <subham> hey
[05:08] <ktrl> hi
[05:08] <subham> what ar u doing?
[05:09] <subham> ?
[05:09] <ktrl> nothing
[05:09] <subham> from which u belong to?
[05:09] <shahrokh>  I install ubuntu server 18.04 on virtualBox but dont working network. virtualbox netconfiguration is NAT and Hosy-only(192.168.56.1)
[05:10] <ktrl> 16.04
[05:10] <ktrl> u?
[05:10] <subham> from which country u belong to ? ktrl
[05:10] <shahrokh> !!!!!
[05:11] <subham> ?
[05:11] <subham> ?
[05:12] <subham> ?
[05:14] <subham> ?
[05:19] <serb2> 18.04 .Xauthority does not exist after update
[05:19] <serb2> need help
[05:19] <subham> ?
[05:20] <serb2> after updating not showing login screen
[05:20] <serb2> if i login using cli , and type startx it will show error
[05:20] <serb2> .Xauthority does not exist
[05:22] <subham> ?
[05:22] <serb2> any one knows how to fix this
[05:25] <guiverc_t> serb2, that file may be recreated automatically
[05:25] <serb2> no
[05:25] <serb2> is it possible to recreate manually
[05:25] <serb2> actually i can see the file
[05:27] <guiverc_t> serb2, refer http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/gdm3.8.html   (18.04 uses a variable; not the file in gdm3)
[05:27] <serb2> let me check thanks
[05:52] <rangemonger> is there a package that can test playback out of various audio devices? "front left" "front right" etc?
[06:03] <guiverc_t> rangemonger, you can test your main set of speakers I thought with gnome/unity using default tools  (I'm not using either, so can't look currently)
[06:05] <rangemonger> guiverc_t: do you know what package that is a part of? i built my ubuntu from a netinstall
[06:07] <rangemonger> also lxinput doesnt seem to have any effect on the mouse settings at all
[06:08] <guiverc_t> sorry no, I don't use unity or gnome, and don't know how to pull up gnome-settings (when not using gnome) to work out..
[06:08] <rangemonger> its cool, thanks anyway
[06:09] <guiverc_t> found what i was looking for; `gnome-control-center` and selecting 'test speakers' - but no idea as to package sorry
[06:10] <rangemonger> its ok, thanks for even checking that
[06:10] <mojtaba> Hello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?
[06:35] <mojtaba> Hello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?
[06:36] <ducasse> mojtaba: what do you mean, exactly?
[06:38] <mojtaba> ducasse: I am backing up a disk and there are some shortcuts pointing to themselves.
[06:38] <mojtaba> when you click on it, it infinitely goes back to the same place.
[06:38] <mojtaba> It gives errors when I try to zip the whole directory.
[06:41] <ducasse> symlinks, you mean? pointing to the current directory?
[06:41] <mojtaba> ducasse: yes. pointing to its path.
[06:47] <mojtaba> any idea?
[06:47] <mojtaba> Hello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?
[06:50] <eraserpencil> If during install, I did not seperate out my partitions. Am I still able to find out how much space my /boot WOULD have been?
[06:52] <ducasse> eraserpencil: you can see how much space it uses with 'du -sh /boot'
[06:53] <eraserpencil> thanks! if I dont have LVM, can I increase /boot ?
[06:55] <EriC^^> eraserpencil: sure it's just more involved
[06:55] <ducasse> you can expand a partition if there is space, but it can be a little messy. i'm not sure /boot can be a logical volume either.
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[06:55] <EriC^^> ideally you'd make it large enough to not have to grow it in size later
[06:55] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[06:56] <eraserpencil> would you recommend that? or should I manually delete the files in /boot. As in delete vmlinux-xxx, initrd-xxx etc etc, starting with deleting the ones with the smallest number
[06:56] <EriC^^> eraserpencil: use the package manager to delete them
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> eraserpencil: anu specific reason you wanna enlargen /boot?
[06:57] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get purge linux-image-........-generic and headers packages
[06:57] <eraserpencil> im in a loop where I cant purge because I dont have the linux-headers-generic, cant apt-get -f install because my boot is full
[06:58] <EriC^^> eraserpencil: erase the initrd to free some space then purge
[06:58] <eraserpencil> so i start with deleting the smallest numbers yea?
[06:59] <EriC^^> yeah, run "uname -r" and delete what you're not running
[06:59] <nightw0lf> eraserpencil, yea I had the same thing, I deleted manually older kernels
[06:59] <EriC^^> smallest first
[06:59] <eraserpencil> thanks!
[06:59] <EriC^^> np
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !kernelcleanup | eraserpencil as suggested
[06:59] <nightw0lf> after I deleted one or two, I had enough space to purge using apt
[07:00] <nightw0lf> EriC^^, sorry for hijacking :D
[07:00] <EriC^^> np, yw :D
[07:02] <ducasse> you don't need to delete manually, you can use dpkg -P to purge the package
[07:02] <eraserpencil> thanks guys! all works now.
[07:03] <eraserpencil> Wasnt sure if I should keep or to expand
[07:03] <eraserpencil> i mean delete or expand
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> eraserpencil: to keep your system healthy, cleanup is needed time to time
[07:04] <EriC^^> you can run "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" every now and then to keep space there good
[07:05] <mojtaba> Hello, Do you know how can I remove all the self pointing shortcuts in a directory?
[07:05] <EriC^^> mojtaba: self pointing like what?
[07:06] <nightw0lf> eraserpencil, great!
[07:07] <eraserpencil> yea, unintentionally nuke my system and do fresh installs everytime. Either by careless dd or careless gdisk writing or careless rm
[07:08] <mojtaba> EriC^^:  self pointing symlinks.
[07:08] <EriC^^> mojtaba: you mean there's a bunch of softlinks in the dir pointing to it?
[07:09] <EriC^^> mojtaba: you mean they are softlinks?
[07:10] <mojtaba> EriC^^: I mean there are lots of softlinks pointing to themselves, and when I try to backup the directory. It just hangs.
[07:11] <EriC^^> mojtaba: can you give an example of one of their "ls -l" output?
[07:12] <mojtaba> path/users --> patth/users
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: screenshot or hastebin, to make it clear please
[07:14] <EriC^^> mojtaba: what happens if you do "readlink -f /path/to/softlink" ?
[07:15] <EriC^^> mojtaba: try this cd /path/to/dir  then  find . -maxdepth 1 -type l | while IFS='' read -r bla; do if [[ "$(readlink -f "$bla")" == "$PWD" ]]; then echo rm "$bla"; fi; done ;
[07:15] <mojtaba> EriC^^: In nautilus, when I click on it, it just adds the name to the path and shows the directory I was in it. It continues infinitely.
[07:16] <EriC^^> test it a little then run it without the echo before rm
[07:19] <Viking667> I've got a weird problem... /bin seems to have gone missing from .profile or .bashrc. Where's that made part of the $PATH?
[07:20] <EriC^^> mojtaba: if it doesn't work, try "readlink -f softlink" and put whatever it gives instead of $PWD
[07:20] <EriC^^> Viking667: what does "echo $PATH" give?
[07:20] <Viking667> lots of bits, but /bin seems to be strangely missing.
[07:21] <Viking667> I've got /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin (archaic, I know) and several other paths too...
[07:21] <EriC^^> Viking667: what's in /etc/environment?
[07:21] <Viking667> I'll come back after I've done the dishes
[07:21] <Viking667> Ah, I'll go check that
[07:22] <Viking667> Here:  /etc/environment: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[07:23] <Viking667> That raises a question then, what sources /etc/environment?
[07:23] <Viking667> (again, back after some dishes)
[07:29] <mojtaba> /media/mojtaba/Windows Vista_64/Users/Mojtaba/AppData/Local/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Application Data/Applicati
[07:31] <MrPatrick> hi
[07:31] <assiduus> elo.
[07:31] <MrPatrick> you from indonesia?
[07:31] <assiduus> nah, Europe. :)
[07:32] <MrPatrick> oh am from indonesia
[07:32] <assiduus> Cool. :)
[07:33] <MrPatrick> quit
[07:33] <assiduus> Try /quit :)
[07:33] <quxgyver> Hi. I'm getting "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgoocanvas3 (>= 0.15)" in Lubuntu 18.04 (LTS) when trying to install a package. I've tried following every instruction that I've found on Google - including installing a bunch of software and packages - to no avail. I've checked apt update and apt upgrade, and the only issue there is with Sublime Text 3. Everything else checks out.
[07:33] <quxgyver> Any help?
[07:34] <ducasse> quxgyver: which package are you trying to install?
[07:35] <assiduus> (was gonna ask the same question)
[07:35] <quxgyver> Inform7
[07:35] <quxgyver> http://inform7.com/download/
[07:35] <quxgyver> Both .debs have the same problem.
[07:35] <ducasse> ok, then try asking where you got that package
[07:36] <assiduus> Wow, it's an oldie.
[07:36] <quxgyver> ducasse: What do you mean?
[07:37] <assiduus> quxgyver: this software seems to be abandoned since 2015.
[07:37] <assiduus> Maybe you can find something else that does the same thing.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: we dont support external software/ppa's officially, we reccomend using packages from the ubuntu repos
[07:38] <quxgyver> assiduus: I don't think there are any other builds. :/
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: meaning, installing external software often result in scrambled system hence why we cant support
[07:38] <ducasse> quxgyver: if you want to use that, you need to ask for an updated version that works on modern ubuntu
[07:39] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: I'm more interested in what the message means, in plain english.
[07:39] <quxgyver> That way I can maybe troubleshoot it myself.
[07:39] <quxgyver> ducasse: I don't think there is any, unfortunately.
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: in plain english, your software is trying to install packages that doesnt match current ubuntu
[07:40] <assiduus> You could try to look for libgoocanvas in the version apt-get wants.
[07:40] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, it says you need libgoocanvas3 - a search for it reveals (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgoocanvas3) ver =0.15 is available for trusty, =1.0 for xenial & artful but none yet for bionic (18.04)
[07:40] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: In what way? Is it asking for an older version of an existing package, or for a nonexistent package to be installed?
[07:41] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, the link I provided also tells you it's in 'universe' ; or community supported; meaning no-one from the community has packaged/tested the lib for bionic(18.04)
[07:42] <assiduus> You could virtualize Trusty and use the package that's avaiable in Ubuntu packages.
[07:42] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, note: i'm talking about your posted error (not sublime text 3 the others looked at... to aid your troubleshooting in future request)
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | sdfgsd
[07:43] <assiduus> Maybe he's on Windows using root as his username. :P
[07:44] <quxgyver> guiverc_t: Even if the package hasn't been tested, is there any harm in installing it? I mean, applications wouldn't use it anyway, right?
[07:44] <assiduus> Yeah, yeah. I know it's a bot. ;)
[07:44] <quxgyver> Aside from Inform7
[07:45] <assiduus> You could also build libgoocanvas3 from source.
[07:45] <assiduus> Instead of waiting for someone else to do it for bionic. :)
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: i would reccomend looking for a package that does the same as inform7, in the official repos
[07:46] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: I don't think there is any.
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: how are you so sure? what does it do exactly?
[07:46] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, that's I think off-topic here, but you've have to meet its requirements which are viewed by looking at (https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/libgoocanvas3  for the 17.10 version) and then check they don't compete/clash with other packages etc... ie. homework to ensure you don't end up in dependency-hell.. if you do your homework you're okay; but it's not for newbies & could make your system unstable!)
[07:47] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: It's an IDE for writing interactive fiction games.
[07:47] <Viking667> okay, I'm back.
[07:48] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: I've already tried searching for Inform-related packages, but they seem to only fulfill certain aspects of what the IDE does
[07:48] <quxgyver> guiverc_t: So you're saying that if you install a package that is incompatible with your system, it actually can be dangerous?
[07:49] <quxgyver> Cus I thought that installing an unneeded package was fine
[07:49] <quxgyver> as long as it's not used by any critical software
[07:49] <quxgyver> in this case it's just a game development IDE that'd be using it, so I assumed that it wouldn't be an issue
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: yes, we dont reccomend mixing package version across different ubuntu versions
[07:50] <Viking667> So. /bin doesn't appear to be part of my $PATH, even though it's present in /etc/environment. what should I prod to get it to work right?
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: you could consider build an ubuntu version, where its still supported?
[07:51] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: That's way beyond my skill level.
[07:51] <quxgyver> I guess this is a lost cause.
[07:51] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, i'd not call it dangerous - it's can be fun to fix messes :)  but its not really for newbies.. it may require a re-install because of instability... thus not recommended and the ~off-topic nature of it... if you do your homework (2nd page took you to 9 packages to check...) you're fine... apt will do this check, but you need to know the consequences .... be prepared for need to re-install if you make mistakes (don't do enough
[07:51] <guiverc_t> homework or make mistake etc)
[07:51] <quxgyver> But, thanks for taking the time to help. I appreciate it.
[07:52] <assiduus> quxgyver: as I already said. Use virtualbox to install Trusty and use the official package.
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: yeah or physical install ^
[07:53] <quxgyver> I can't. Partly because this is a very low spec PC, and partly because I had such an issue getting *buntu installed due to various unintelligible errors that I don't really want to mess with the system again.
[07:54] <quxgyver> But it's fine. I'll live.
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: see also tads3 as inform7 alternate
[07:54] <assiduus> Viking667: add /bin to your PATH environment variable (export PATH=$PATH:/bin).
[07:55] <quxgyver> lotuspsychje: Appreciate the suggestion/effort, but I already have an ongoing IF7 project.
[07:55] <quxgyver> I just wanted to be able to work on it on my Linux PC. :-)
[07:55] <Viking667> assiduus: while that might work, I'm puzzled why it's not there to begin with.
[07:55] <quxgyver> But it's fine! Appreciate the help.
[07:55] <assiduus> Yeah. It is weird.
[07:56] <assiduus> Add it (export) to your .bash_profile and that's it. ;)
[07:56] <assiduus> Although it should have been in your PATH already.
[07:56] <Viking667> you beat me to it.
[07:56] <assiduus> :)
[07:57] <Viking667> So. Where do I put it so it's in every user's PATH?
[07:57] <Viking667> actually, I should ask why it's not in THIS user's path specifically.
[07:57] <assiduus>  /etc/profile if I'm not mistaken.
[07:57] <Viking667> I'll check that again.
[07:58] <assiduus> He or she must have messed with the PATH variable directly on indirectly (that software they used did it).
[07:58] <assiduus> *the
[07:59] <Viking667> hm. /bin isn't mentioned in /etc/profile, or /etc/bash.bashrc for that matter. I'm checking through /etc/profile.d/* at the moment
[07:59] <Viking667> now that IS weird. It's not there either.
[07:59] <assiduus> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin"
[08:00] <assiduus> this is default PATH on bionic.
[08:00] <PhoenyxCullen> quit
[08:01] <assiduus> ok. Gone for now...
[08:01] <assiduus> Cya.
[08:02] <Viking667> weird. It's not in Fedora either
[08:02] <Viking667> ... except in /etc/environment, I suspect
[08:02] <Viking667> nope, not there.
[08:03] <TvL2386_> hey guys, I'm having an ubuntu-18.04 desktop with VirtualBox installed. I have a 18.04 VM installed using `vagrant init ubuntu/bionic64 && vagrant up` and it boots soooooooo sloooooow.... I think it's the tty console lag or something
[08:03] <TvL2386_> an ubuntu 16.04 vm starts in about 8 seconds
[08:03] <TvL2386_> 18.04 takes 50 seconds
[08:04] <Viking667> TvL2386_: so what services are starting in each VM then?
[08:05] <TvL2386_> Viking667: well, the first 23 seconds of booting the 18.04 VM is kernel output, so I concluded it must be console slowness
[08:09] <TvL2386_> hmmm... my old 16.04 vms boot fast, a newly created 16.04 vm has the same lag... I think virtualbox or vagrant has changed some defaults, I'll compare settings
[08:14] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, just had a thought - did you look for a snap packaged version of whatever you were looking for (snaps don't have the 'dep-hell' issues i was talking about)
[08:20] <Triffid_Hunter> TvL2386_: could be presence/absence of suitable fbconsole driver? the fallback vesa one is terribly slow.. does it still boot slow after you install virtualbox guest drivers?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> TvL2386_: 18.04 is slow booting systemd, several bugs on it
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> TvL2386_: feel free to subscribe to my bug about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1742063
[08:42] <Viking667> I'm off for now, folks.
[08:53] <noob1ieLin> Hello everyone!
[09:01] <noob1ieLin> can someone assist as i am a bit new in linux :) |(but not completely)
[09:02] <noob1ieLin> i installed freeradius, and I am wondering how to uninstall it
[09:03] <noob1ieLin> i did the dpkg -l | grep -i radius to see the pkgs and then dpkg -P to purge them
[09:03] <noob1ieLin> but when i try locate freeradius i get allot of feedback from files and folders
[09:03] <blackflow> noob1ieLin: you can use apt for that, it's the proper package manager anyway (dpkg is low level .deb file manager)
[09:03] <noob1ieLin> usr/local/share
[09:05] <noob1ieLin> yeap did that also
[09:05] <noob1ieLin> apt-get remove freeradius
[09:05] <noob1ieLin> Reading package lists... Done
[09:05] <noob1ieLin> Building dependency tree
[09:05] <noob1ieLin> Reading state information... Done
[09:05] <noob1ieLin> Package 'freeradius' is not installed, so not removed
[09:06] <blackflow> noob1ieLin: if dpkg -l showed it installed then apt must be able to uninstall it
[09:07] <quxgyver> guiverc_t: What's a snap package?
[09:12] <noob1ieLin> @blackflow I am just wondering why the files are still in the system is all
[09:12] <noob1ieLin> and should just i delete them
[09:14] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, this may provide some info: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2016/06/14/universal-snap-packages-launch-on-multiple-linux-distros ; "Snaps are applications packaged with all their dependencies to run on all popular Linux distributions from a single build. They update automatically and roll back gracefully.."  (you use `snap install` instead of `apt install`) - but the editor you want may not be packaged in it anyway...
[09:39] <quxgyver> guiverc_t: Ah I see! That's cool
[09:40] <guiverc_t> :)
[09:40] <quxgyver> It doesn't look like it's available as a snap package, but thanks for explaining.
[09:40] <quxgyver> At least I learned some things today. :-)
[09:57] <Haris> hello all
[09:57] <Haris> how to get php 5.6 on 16.x ?
[09:57] <Haris> ppa ?
[09:59] <chigong> hello all-im new to ubuntu/linux and learning the ropes as i go-want to make a basic quick login script to connect to my vpn service-security not paramount concern hence making a script with login details-how do i incorporate into my script a username and password (what is the syntax for password and username
[10:00] <simosx> chigong, Ubuntu uses NetworkManager and you can automate it very easily. Click on [network icon]→VPN Connections→Add a VPN Connection...
[10:09] <jrabe> chigong: I believe there's currently a bug in NetworkManager that prevents automatic connections from working. If you're affected by it, a script like https://janikrabe.com/vpn.sh.txt should do the trick (place it in '/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d' and make it executable (+x)).
[10:09] <jrabe> Be sure to change the UUID on the first line, save your password through the GUI (for all users, not just your user) and note that this script doesn't prevent traffic from going out while the connection is being established or when you have conectivity issues.
[10:11] <jrabe> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fq44Ymb73f/ if you prefer the Ubuntu pastebin
[10:14] <chigong> thank you very much =0
[10:25] <pau2> hola
[10:27] <Haris> is ppa ok for php on xenial in production ?
[10:27] <Haris> stable'sh, secure'sh ?
[10:27] <osse> How do I list the files provided by an installed package?
[10:27] <ppf> osse: dpkg -L
[10:27] <osse> ppf: thanks
[10:27] <ppf> Haris: there's no guarantee?
[10:28] <Haris> ok, so is xenial going to support mongodb 3.x ?
[10:28] <Haris> in official repo
[10:28] <mrmaze404> Hello
[10:28] <ppf> !info mongodb xenial
[10:29] <ppf> Haris: version is 2.6
[10:29] <Haris> 2.6 is pretty old
[10:29] <ppf> so is xenial
[10:29] <ppf> !info mongodb bionic
[10:30] <ppf> lies?
[10:30] <ppf> !info mongodb
[10:30] <ppf> well ... ubottu you're broken. version is 3.6
[10:37] <TvL2386_> Triffid_Hunter: thanks for your suggestion!
[10:37] <TvL2386_> Triffid_Hunter: I'll check it out
[10:48] <beaver> ppf: mongodb =! mongodb-server
[10:48] <beaver> !info mongodb-server
[10:51] <Haris> still 2.6
[10:51] <Haris> 2.x
[10:51] <Haris> Is 18 ready for production?
[10:51] <ppf> beaver: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/mongodb
[10:51] <ppf> Haris: it's 3.6
[10:51] <ppf> and it's an LTS, so yes
[10:51] <Haris> there's two things. (1) php mod (2) mongodb server, client, tools
[10:52] <Haris> apt-cache show mongodb shows 2.6
[10:52] <Haris> on 16.x
[10:52] <ppf> yes
[10:52] <beaver> ppf: indeed :x
[10:52] <newbii> Hi people, I have a problem with my freshly installed bionic beaver gnome desktop. Gnome overlaps the icons on my dektop. That is, I range icons as I like on the desktop, then after reboot they are mostly in the same order, but each time some of thes change the position and are exactly at the same place, one over another. (I did not have this issue in the previous ubuntu releases) . Any help?--
[10:54] <Haris> can we have php 5.x on bionic ?
[10:55] <ppf> Haris: not natively
[10:55] <ppf> you can run xenial in a container on bionic
[10:55] <ppf> (or a more lightweight linux, fwiw)
[10:55] <ppf> s,linux,distribution,
[10:56] <Haris> how to get php 5.6 on bionic ?
[10:58] <ppf> there's a ppa for 5.6. but i have no idea if that works
[11:05] <mactheknife> What is the best flash player for ubuntu?
[11:05] <Jamz_> i think pepperflash works better
[11:06] <omarek> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with default window manager (Gnome?) and Slack notifier icon in the bottom left keeps pestering me.
[11:06] <Jamz_> mactheknife: https://askubuntu.com/questions/562271/can-i-use-chromes-pepper-flash-with-firefox
[11:07] <omarek> I use Vim for programming in fullscreen, and whenever notifications slide in they obscure my vim command line.
[11:07] <omarek> I can't afford not to use slack for inter-company communications because that's what most of them uses.
[11:07] <Haris> I need the non-legacy php 5.x driver for mongodb to  n
[11:08] <omarek> How do I move the Slack notification icon from bottom left to anywhere else?
[11:08] <ppf> Haris: you can try the ppa, though at your own discretion, or run this in a container
[11:08] <mactheknife> Jamz_: the flash player is needed for browsing/surfing.
[11:08] <ppf> mactheknife: what is this, 2005?
[11:08] <Jamz_> mactheknife: whats your question?
[11:09] <mous> mactheknife: for my personal flash needs, i'm pretty happy with the flash player that comes built in to Chrome
[11:09] <mous> mactheknife: but for firefox/chromium there are plugins
[11:09] <mactheknife> Well to see some websites flash is needed
[11:09] <mous> with chromium you can use pepper flash
[11:09] <Jamz_> i just gave an alternative
[11:10] <mous> not sure what firefox does
[11:10] <Jamz_> so whats your question?
[11:10] <mactheknife> I see all kinds of flash in synaptic but wonder which one is the best to use
[11:10] <Jamz_> for linux i think pepper flash works better but I said that already :)
[11:11] <Jamz_> you really only got adobe flash or pepper flash i think as the two main ones
[11:11] <Jamz_> so
[11:12] <Jamz_> i dont think there are any other good alternatives..you have those two
[11:12] <AuroraAvenue> Wits end - but tryin' not to loose it.
[11:12] <AuroraAvenue> So I have a Lenovo x220 with Ubuntu bionic beaver#
[11:13] <AuroraAvenue> And I need a snap that will record from 3.5 jack
[11:13] <Haris> I need a php version on xenial that supports the new and legacy driver for mongodb
[11:14] <AuroraAvenue> Is there a simple audio recorder that will record from a 3.5 audio lead cable ?
[11:19] <AuroraAvenue> hi there can you halp ....?
[11:20] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to prevent a service from logging into /var/log/daemon.log I run my java app as a systemd service it's logging into two locations. Where it should application log and into daemon.log.
[11:21] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to disable logging into daemon log.
[11:23] <mous> AuroraAvenue: Probably a thousand apps that can record from line in jack - one of those is open broadcaster studio (OBS)
[11:30] <newbii> Hi people, I have a problem with my freshly installed bionic beaver gnome desktop. Gnome overlaps the icons on my dektop. That is, I range icons as I like on the desktop, then after reboot they are mostly in the same order, but each time some of thes change the position and are exactly at the same place, one over another. (I did not have this issue in the previous ubuntu releases) . Any help?---
[11:31] <AuroraAvenue> mous would audacity work as a snap ?#
[11:46] <guiverc_t> AuroraAvenue, have you looked thru the snap store ?  https://snapcraft.io/store
[11:47] <skinux> i'm willing to let someone have TeamViewer access, if they can help me figure out why I can only login Gnome desktop,
[11:49] <guiverc_t> quxgyver, another question had me go to snap store; no idea if this helps, but https://snapcraft.io/sublime-text (i don't know sublime; learnt vi in the 80s so...)
[11:51] <Tin_man> skinux, do you have a alternate desktop installed to use?
[11:52] <skinux> Well, Xfce at the least
[11:53] <skinux> I installed Ubuntu Studio, but the option doesn't show.
[11:53] <Tin_man> might look here for suggestions and help >> https://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/
[11:55] <skinux> The problem is Gnome is hte only one that doesn't just go back to login
[11:56] <Tin_man> is your xfce option there at login?
[12:00] <NEO_> NEO_1
[12:01] <NEO_> Hello This Is my first time
[12:02] <solsTiCe> NEO_: for what ?
[12:02] <Haris2> how to check if ppa repo is enabled in 16.x ?
[12:02] <NEO_> Using an IRC
[12:03] <coconut> Welcome NEO_
[12:04] <NEO_> Thank  you coconut
[12:04] <NEO_> clear
[12:09] <coconut> Haris2: seeing no one answers, check lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and/or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[12:12] <baako> hi guys, i wanted to buy a wireless mouse and was wondering if https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-910-005313-Wireless-Bluetooth-Windows/dp/B0761YL588/ref=sr_1_18?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1530184105&sr=1-18&keywords=logitech+mouse will work with ubuntu 18.04
[12:13] <plasmoduck> baako: pretty much all wireless mice and keyboards work.
[12:14] <deskwizard> I don't have any issues with my Logitech mices using their unified receiver, as for BT, I couldn't say
[12:15] <plasmoduck> baako: it will be fine, I'm using a very cheap usb keyboard with no problems
[12:15] <Tin_man> baako, i use this, and it works fine >> https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-mouse-m185
[12:15] <realchriswells> Hi all
[12:15] <Tin_man> it was less than shown there at walmart.
[12:16] <baako> Tin_man: and plasmoduck i current have a logitech k800 keyboard and logitech performance mx mouse, the mouse and keyboard doesnt work together so i had to disconnect the mouse and using a wired mouse which i dont like
[12:16] <JadedJJ> Hi
[12:16] <JadedJJ> How does the modern traceroute command work?
[12:17] <realchriswells> I'm having issues with setting up a magento 2 site on Ubuntu, specifically running composer. the error I'm getting is chmod(): Operation not permitted. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but any help would be appareciated.
[12:17] <Tin_man> I don't wireless keyboard, seem to have a lag when typing, so I usually go with a wired keyboard, and wireless mouse, but it's a personal thing.
[12:20] <baako> Tin_man: am a wireless man,
[12:20] <baako> unless am gaming
[12:31] <DarkStar1> Hi people. Are there ppas for openjdk10?
[12:31] <DarkStar1> or is it just manual installation for now
[12:32] <DarkStar1> ?
[12:47] <subjectid> (18.04 gnome shell) network manager replaces the saved password in openvpn settings when using 2auth. Can't figure out where to change that behavior.
[12:53] <quxgyver> guiverc_t: Ah thanks. Sublime actually works. It just gives me update/upgrade errors is all
[12:53] <quxgyver> So no issue there. :-)
[13:01] <MibixFox> hmm so i just newly formatted a 3tb ext4 drive and wrote all the stuff i normally write in to fstab and I can't seem to get it to mount
[13:01] <MibixFox> mounted before i formatted it
[13:01] <MibixFox> is there anyway to see the error message?
[13:02] <arora> MibixFox: dmesg
[13:04] <MibixFox> lol critical medium error
[13:05] <MibixFox> i mean this drive is pretty old
[13:06] <arora> grep only the usb part from the log
[13:06] <MibixFox> its not a usb drive?
[13:07] <arora> oh you meant sata drive?
[13:07] <MibixFox> yeah
[13:08] <MibixFox> seems to be getting I/O errors
[13:08] <arora> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[13:09] <aref> hi
[13:09] <MibixFox> heh yeah its not the healthiest according to those
[13:09] <aref> this peppermint 9 32 bit
[13:09] <MibixFox> but it was working in NTFS :/
[13:10] <arora> MibixFox: what happens when you mount it?
[13:10] <aref_> hi
[13:11] <MibixFox> it just immediately umounts
[13:11] <MibixFox> i might just try a restart
[13:15] <leftyfb> MibixFox: I/O errors is a bad HDD
[13:19] <MibixFox> leftyfb:  yeah it was working before i formatted it :p
[13:20] <leftyfb> MibixFox: "working"
[13:20] <leftyfb> MibixFox: Windows love to ignore problems with drives until it's too late
[13:20] <MibixFox> i mean it still passes the smart tests
[13:20] <MibixFox> def has a few bad blocks though
[13:22] <ducasse> it isn't going to get better at this stage
[13:23] <MibixFox> lol restarted and its working now :D
[13:28] <MibixFox> might not delete that backup for a bit :D
[13:33] <r1c0> fisse
[13:39] <freakynl> Hi, is squid on 18.04 lacking stuff? Get errors: * FATAL: Unknown http_port option 'ssl-bump' -- that option is documented in the default config :/
[13:41] <deww> freakynl: this might apply to you http://squid-web-proxy-cache.1019090.n4.nabble.com/squid-4-0-20-does-not-recognize-ssl-bump-option-td4682847.html
[13:46] <freakynl> deww: Yes, I'm aware of that. Quite stumped Ubuntu has built it w/o SSL support
[13:46] <freakynl> deww: thanks tho' :)
[13:53] <zetheroo> in which file/folder is the users preferred theme set?
[14:17] <skinux> Is there a more preferred shell text editor than vim now? I just found it not installed.
[14:19] <deww> skinux: maybe nano as it's pretty friendly to use.
[14:19] <pagios> Hello, does anyone know of any opensource DNS load balancer? Idea is to have a certain domain.com that resolves everytime to a different origin ip address thus load balancing the traffic. appreciaite if someone can point me to a good opensource project i can rely on
[14:20] <leftyfb> skinux: vi is installed by default on ubuntu. vim is an apt command away
[14:21] <deww> pagios: i'm far from knowledgeable on this, but it appears you are referring to dns round robin
[14:21] <leftyfb> deww: that's not real load balancing
[14:22] <deww> nope
[14:28] <svip> When I run udevadm monitor, I can constantly see slab and nvidia modules getting removed and added, causing systemd-udev and modprobe to use a lot of CPU.
[14:28] <svip> Is there a way to tell the kernel *not* to remove these modules and just keep them added?
[14:30] <your1p> join #puppet
[14:31] <blackflow> leftyfb: I thought vim was always there, just by default confiugred in vi compatible mode
[14:31] <blackflow> its' a dependency of ubuntu-minimal
[14:31] <leftyfb> hm, I may be thinking of raspberry pi
[14:35] <coconut_away> I am trying to find a command to add a whole .txt file to the end of an already existing one.
[14:35] <coconut> duckduckgo did not tell much
[14:35] <eyeoh> cat test.txt >> existing.txt ?
[14:36] <eyeoh> note the double >> - single will overwrite
[14:36] <coconut> ow, *that* easy? Shame on me....
[14:36] <eyeoh> tee might be another command that does a similar but different thing you might be interested in.
[14:37] <eyeoh> oh nah so many times I've never been sure cause it's not always documented since it's /assumed/ knowledge.
[14:37] <eyeoh> heh check out man tac too
[14:37] <eyeoh> unix is whacky
[14:39] <eyeoh> the details is probably somewhere inside 'info coreutils' but I admittedly haven't read it
[14:39] <eyeoh> (also try info info to learn to read info...)
[14:41] <eyeoh> I definitely need to read all of info coreutils; as well as how to compile rather than stumbling around (although, stumbling around teaches a lot too)
[14:42] <eyeoh> I think setting the terminal font to something nice and not too big/small helps
[14:42] <eyeoh> it even goes into what a kilobyte is
[14:43] <dsar> what is wrong with this expression sed -i -e "s/^-XX:HeapDumpPath*/\-XX:HeapDumpPath=/app/var/lib/elasticsearch" jvm.options
[14:43] <dsar> it says sed: -e expression #1, char 41: unknown option to `s'
[14:50] <coconut>  eyeoh: does this cat example also work with weird/all characters?
[14:50] <coconut> It does as long it's a txt file right?
[14:51] <Pete234> a
[14:52] <eyeoh> I imagine it should but that's a guess - always test :)
[14:52] <coconut> hehe, will do...
[14:53] <Pete234> Hey guys, Ubuntu 18.0 seems to be very exciting, any thoughts on how to make it even more interesting?
[14:53] <eyeoh> I think you mean 18.04 :p
[14:54] <Pete234> Yeah
[14:54] <oerheks> install some software, read about it
[14:54] <eyeoh> (cause there will be an 18.10 soon enough; and then you'll be deciding which to keep)
[14:54] <Pete234> Like what
[14:54] <oerheks> not really an ubuntu technical issue, is it?
[14:54] <eyeoh> head to the command line as early as you can
[14:54] <eyeoh> you'll learn lots
[14:54] <Pete234> How long do you anticipate the next release?
[14:54] <oerheks> 5 years
[14:55] <eyeoh> they're twice a year Pete234, and once every two years for LTS releases.
[14:55] <danili_> Hey people :) I have this wierd problem with my package manager, I tried to install tftpd-hpa so I could connect to my cisco switch. Anyway the program didn't install right, and now it prohibit me from installing anything else. I've googled the problem any tried apt -f, dpkg --purge and so on, and nothing worked. I've collected the thinks I've tried and the outputs I got in this pastebin :) https://pastebin.com/FiTge91C
[14:56] <Pete234> Wow!Cool but probably there will be a beta release before the arrival of this new release due in 5 year
[14:58] <leftyfb> danili_: sudo touch /etc/default/tftpd-hpa && sudo apt-get remove --purge tftpd-hpa
[14:58] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I forgot my password for USB HD (LUKS), because I changed it last week, I remember the old one, for an unknown reason gnome shell forgot it when I unpluged the usb and pluged again, and I have important stuff there. Can someone tell me if there is a way? Gnome SHELL Ubuntu GNU Linux 16.04 LUKS. Please.
[14:59] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: there is no way
[14:59] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: that would defeat the purpose behind encryption
[14:59] <oerheks> Zuhaitz, you changed *and* forgot the luks password, then you have a big problem
[14:59] <oerheks> so, your data is safe, no-one can read it
[14:59] <danili_> leftyfb, it gave me this https://pastebin.com/sFXrgeMz
[14:59] <eyeoh> coconut: I finally figured out where >> is originally "documented", in case you ever want to read up on that - type info bash, and then press s and search for >>
[14:59] <blackflow> call NSA for a backup copy?
[15:00] <blackflow> also... important without backup == not important.
[15:00] <eyeoh> coconut: there are a couple of other tricks described there too
[15:00] <Zuhaitz> leftyfb, but maybe, If I am the owner... the user ...
[15:00] <Zuhaitz> what about this https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1543373 ?
[15:01] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: there is no way. You either remember the password or you consider the data gone
[15:01] <Zuhaitz> leftyfb, and WHY Gnome SHELL forgot it?
[15:01] <Pete234> How many users are in the system...I am assuming that you could probably boot with a USB boot repair and try  to recover from there assuming that the such user has admin rights
[15:01] <eyeoh> Zuhaitz: Assuming it's a strong password, you're in a tough spot. In future the only possible option you have is to use a password manager.
[15:02] <Zuhaitz> I clicked "remember password" and it was working for weeks
[15:02] <eyeoh> oh no
[15:02] <oerheks> Zuhaitz, why did *you* forgot it?? did you seriously want gnome to remember the pass ??
[15:02] <eyeoh> that's not what it's meant to do
[15:02] <Zuhaitz> and just 2 days ago, Gnome forgot it
[15:02] <oerheks> .. and you changed it
[15:02] <eyeoh> that's not how the keyring works
[15:02] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: this has nothing to do with gnome shell. You can use cryptsetup to try to unlock the volume. It'll ask for your password. If you forgot it, then there is no getting in
[15:02] <Zuhaitz> oerheks, I changed it and clicked remember
[15:02] <Zuhaitz> and it was working
[15:02] <Pete234> and also you might be able to find some linux hacking tools which could help you take care of the issue
[15:02] <Zuhaitz> for 2 days
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> Gnome SHell forgot it
[15:03] <leftyfb> Pete234: there is currently no "hacking" around LUKS
[15:03] <eyeoh> Okay, so assume gnome shell did forget it
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> belive or not
[15:03] <blackflow> unless you call NSA for a backup copy.       c'mon 'tis funny.
[15:03] <eyeoh> we still can't help sorry
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> eyeoh, but why? is not that a bug?
[15:03] <eyeoh> it's technically not possible with current knowledge
[15:03] <yogg> hi
[15:03] <eyeoh> no Zuhaitz, it's security
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> at least I could mount it, copy to another
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> and then format
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> no, is not security
[15:03] <Zuhaitz> gnome FORGOT it
[15:04] <eyeoh> but why encrypt if it's not meant to?
[15:04] <eyeoh> okay
[15:04] <Zuhaitz> I clicked remember, and it was working
[15:04] <Zuhaitz> plug --> mounted
[15:04] <Zuhaitz> it was working for a long time
[15:04] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/<your drive> backup
[15:04] <Zuhaitz> what is that
[15:04] <yogg> I try to use "ps -o comm:50,pid" but I only get the first 15 chars of the process. Is there a special option to get the full string?
[15:05] <Pete234> just like windows, I am sure there are some linux tools aimed for such purpose
[15:05] <leftyfb> it'll ask you for the password to manually unlock it
[15:05] <Zuhaitz> Nautilus is asking me every time I click...
[15:05] <Zuhaitz> the drive
[15:05] <Zuhaitz> xD
[15:05] <luxio> What's the package for IntelliJ IDEA?
[15:06] <yogg> the full command that I use: "ps axf -o comm:50,pid"
[15:06] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: if you forgot the password, that is a bug with your brain, nothing else. Sorry, nobody can help you.
[15:06] <Zuhaitz> I know that is my problem, but If I forgot and gnome dont, then I could mount, and copy to the laptop hd, then format usb hd again
[15:06] <Zuhaitz> leftyfb, no, gnome shell forgot the password
[15:06] <blackflow> luxio: search the snaps, I don't think there's a regular package of it
[15:06] <Zuhaitz> is a gnome bug
[15:06] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: do you know he password?
[15:06] <yogg> with "ps auxf " I get much more
[15:06] <Zuhaitz> leftyfb, I clicked REMEMBER PASSWORD
[15:07] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: do you know he password?
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> it was working, and gnome forgot it
[15:07] <leftyfb> the*
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> is or not a bug in nautilus gnome or what ever?
[15:07] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: do you know the password?
[15:07] <blackflow> it's not a bug, it's PEBKAC
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> gnome should
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> leftyfb, is a bug
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> you are stupid lame troll
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> xD
[15:07] <eyeoh> luxio: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/#section=linux and click the instructions link on the left - it's fairly simple really
[15:07] <Zuhaitz> is a fucking bug
[15:07] <luxio> eyeoh: thank you
[15:07] <eyeoh> no compiling, cause it's java
[15:07] <luxio> found a snap though https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2017/11/install-intellij-idea-with-snaps/
[15:07] <luxio> which one should I sue
[15:07] <luxio> use*
[15:07] <oerheks> Zuhaitz, thank you for visiting ubuntu support, good luck
[15:07] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: ok, goodbye. Make sure you remember passwords next time
[15:07] <blackflow> Zuhaitz: good luck with that then.
[15:08] <eyeoh> luxio: community is the free one; start there
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> oerheks, you are just one more, just like me
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> leftyfb, is a troll
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> there is a bug
[15:08] <luxio> eyeoh: I mean which one as in snap or .tar.gz
[15:08] <eyeoh> well I personally would go for the tar.gz
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> and this is not a support channel, is a community channel
[15:08] <eyeoh> I don't know how to use snap
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> canonical is not here
[15:08] <blackflow> luxio: there's a snap of it, don't use the tarball unless you have to
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> you are like me, no more
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> just like me
[15:08] <eyeoh> or what blackflow says
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> no authority here
[15:08] <luxio> Zuhaitz: "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[15:08] <Zuhaitz> just leftyfb insulting me
[15:09] <Zuhaitz> oh, yes, luxio , sure is Canonical LTD paying
[15:09] <Zuhaitz> XDDDDDDDD
[15:09] <Zuhaitz> official XDDDDDDDD
[15:09] <oerheks> i understand you do not get the answer you want to hear, pitty
[15:09] <eyeoh> luxio: https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2017/11/install-intellij-idea-with-snaps/
[15:09] <hggdh>  /ircc-in
[15:09] <blackflow> luxio: `snap search idea`
[15:09] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: you have multiple people telling you the same thing. You do not know the password, you cannot unlock the drive. You have zero options. Sorry about your loss.
[15:09] <Zuhaitz> If I click REMEMBER password to a software the software SHOULD remember, and if it does for somedays and after somedays stop remembering, that is a bug
[15:10] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: ok, file a bug
[15:10] <Zuhaitz>  leftyfb* added to ignore list.
[15:10] <Zuhaitz> Troll.
[15:10] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: I suggest you go and file a bug
[15:10] <blackflow> guys, can't you see it is just trolling? it has no desire to listen to your advices. Just /ignore
[15:10] <Zuhaitz> hggdh, where?
[15:10] <eyeoh> Zuhaitz: I'm not even a volunteer here (I use fedora) but how can I help you?
[15:10] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: also, please calm down
[15:10] <danili_> leftyfb, your idea with touch and apt remove --purge, didn't work. It just gave me the same error :/ https://pastebin.com/sFXrgeMz Any other suggestions? :)
[15:10] <Zuhaitz> hggdh, i didnt insult, he does "you have a bug in your brain"
[15:10] <Zuhaitz> is that "official support" of canonical?
[15:11] <Zuhaitz> if it is, tell me, Ill write something to canonical
[15:11] <Zuhaitz> about the "support"
[15:11] <Zuhaitz> and insults
[15:11] <Zuhaitz> ;)
[15:11] <eyeoh> ok I'll follow the other advice of /ignore so that I don't flood the channel with replies
[15:11] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: this is community support
[15:11] <Zuhaitz> hggdh, Im community too
[15:11] <Zuhaitz> And I'll dont insult you
[15:12] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: if you want Canonical support, you need to contact them and contract them for that
[15:12] <eyeoh> luxio: let us know how you go with whichever option you take
[15:12] <Zuhaitz> hggdh, I dont want canonical support, I just dont want be insulted
[15:12] <eyeoh> as for the Ultimate version; it's a free trial so if you want to see, I guess try that
[15:12] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: if you think this is a bug open a bug -- I would guess against seahorse -- by running "ubuntu-bug seahorse"
[15:13] <yogg> hmm I think I found my answer :( https://superuser.com/questions/567648/ps-comm-format-always-cuts-the-process-name
[15:13] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: but the fact remains: if you forgot the passphrase, then there is NO way to recover the data
[15:13] <xirg> what's the best way to join an AD domain with ubuntu
[15:14] <coconut> thanks for info bash eyeoh ...
[15:14] <Zuhaitz> I did something wrong: I changed a password that I was using for a long time, and I forgot it (not really, just some uppercase or something like that), but Nautilus in Gnome Shell under Ubuntu should remember it as I clicked "remember password", that is a bug for sure. I did the wrong thing, I know, but if Gnome or nautilus didnt (I dont know conditional in english) could rememeber it now, I could mount it and save it in the internal
[15:14] <Zuhaitz> hd then format the external again.
[15:14] <Zuhaitz> hggdh, I'will
[15:14] <luxio> eyeoh: installing the snap seems to have worked
[15:14] <Zuhaitz> I know is -my- fault, but without the bug, my fault could be saved with copy and format and copy...
[15:15] <eyeoh> coconut: np - luxio: nice; just the community one?
[15:15] <Zuhaitz> :/
[15:15] <eyeoh> my understanding is that the ultimate one is for pros/money makers
[15:15] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: I understand your point of view, but there is nothing else to be done *right* now
[15:15] <eyeoh> so get used to the community one and extend if you need
[15:15] <luxio> eyeoh: yes
[15:16] <Zuhaitz> https://access.redhat.com/solutions/1543373 <-- what about this?
[15:16] <eyeoh> xirg: is that Active Directory? (I myself wouldn't know sorry)
[15:16] <xirg> yes, active directory
[15:16]  * eyeoh passes the buck
[15:16] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: "If the system is still up and the device is currently opened (unlocked), root can use the master key to add a new key"
[15:17] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: since you cannot open/unlock it, that is not possible
[15:17] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: there is no breaking into the drive
[15:17] <leftyfb> Zuhaitz: if there were, nobody would use LUKS
[15:17] <oerheks> bug: luks is too good.
[15:17] <leftyfb> but if he's got me on ignore, then i'm sure he'll be fine on his own
[15:21] <Zuhaitz> oerheks, no
[15:21] <Zuhaitz> oerheks, luks is good, but if nautilus asked me for remember or not and I cliked yes and worked for months
[15:21] <Zuhaitz> why just 2 days ago nautilus forgot it?
[15:21] <pantato> sooo i installed some kde program a long long time ago and ever since my boot screen has been that stupid kubuntu login...i just tried apt-get --purge remove kubuntu* and rebooted. Now it wont boot and Im stuck in emergency mode logged in as root. Pls help
[15:21] <Zuhaitz> NAUTILUS BUG
[15:21] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: enough
[15:21] <Zuhaitz> hggdh, luks is nice, yes, it is
[15:22] <hggdh> all: enough
[15:22] <hggdh> Zuhaitz: please stop NOW
[15:22] <Zuhaitz> gnome is nice, nautilus is nice, I love gnome shell
[15:22] <Zuhaitz> but there is a bug
[15:22] <Zuhaitz> xD
[15:22] <Zuhaitz> and my fault + nautilus bug = drama for me XD
[15:22] <Zuhaitz> in that order
[15:22] <rahulstark> hey
[15:24] <leftyfb> danili_: let me look
[15:26] <danili_> leftyfb, https://pastebin.com/sFXrgeMz
[15:26] <deusexmachina> can I overclock my gpu in ubuntu?
[15:27] <deusexmachina> i have a 1080 ti
[15:27] <leftyfb> redleek_: can I help you with something?
[15:27] <zarzar> i'm trying to get opkg tools installed on my ubuntu, the guides i have founf are all stale relative to the opkg source hosted on yocto project org, is there a guide?
[15:28] <redleek_> leftyfb: sorry, new to IRC, just testing commands in different channels. Sorry if I disturbed you.
[15:28] <leftyfb> redleek_: IRC pinging people isn't appropriate
[15:29] <redleek_> leftyfb: my understanding was that it gave the ping time, not notify when someone pinged you
[15:30] <redleek_> leftyfb: again, my apologies
[15:30] <leftyfb> danili_: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/g68dfCcxGb/   write that to the contents of /etc/default/tftpd-hpa and make sure it's owned by root
[15:30] <danili_> redleek_, I also got a notification from when you pinged me
[15:31] <redleek_> danili_: sorry
[15:34] <danili_> leftyfb, this is the content of /etc/default/tftpd-hpa at the moment https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XPYNQ7VG3g/ and it's owned by root already
[15:35] <deusexmachina> no one knows a way to OC my gpu in ubuntu?
[15:35] <leftyfb> danili_: sudo mkdir /tmp-files && sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/tftpd-hpa* /tmp-files/  && sudo apt remove --purge tftpd-hpa
[15:35] <svip> I have installed nvidia-driver-396, but when I run nvidia-settings (after rebooting), it claims there is no NVIDIA driver loaded.  Looking at udevadm monitor, I can see the nvidia module getting removed and added constantly.
[15:35] <leftyfb> deusexmachina: that's beyond the scope of this channel
[15:36] <deusexmachina> leftyfb, where should I ask?
[15:36] <pantato> can anyone help me?
[15:37] <leftyfb> !ask | pantato
[15:37] <pantato> i did ask the question
[15:38] <leftyfb> pantato: reinstall KDE?
[15:38] <danili_> leftyfb, looks like that worked :D Thanks alot!
[15:39] <leftyfb> danili_: feel free to delete /tmp-files after you confirm you can install the package again without issue
[15:40] <pantato> leftyfb: just one of the packages
[15:41] <pantato> i think just worked
[15:41] <hggdh> pantato: this is probably because you also got the KDE display manager installed, and selected for default DM. I do not remember the name, but if you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 you should be able to select whatever DM you want
[15:42] <hggdh> pantato: (DMs that are installed, of course)
[15:44] <pantato> hggdh: mm it's weird because i just upgraded to 18.04 from 14.04 and i had lightdm running with 14.04 , still had the crappy logo on boot, though
[15:45] <hggdh> pantato: (1) lightdm is not the default DM nowadays; (2) so whatever you did you did a long time ago
[15:47] <pantato> hggdh: says i'm running gdm3 right now
[15:47] <pantato> i don't understand why i would need kubuntu packages
[15:48] <hggdh> pantato: then I did not understand your question. Can you please elaborate?
[15:49] <danili_> leftyfb, tried to reinstall it and ended up at the beginning with this https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/3mQCGmmrBN/ guess there's a problem with the package in the repo :/ Wonder if I could just find the source and compile it myself
[15:49] <pantato> hggdh: i installed something that required KDE a long long time ago. I tried to get rid of it before but I guess the boot logo has remained. (this all during 14.04) I just upgraded from 14.04 to 18.04 the other day, decided to clean up a bit and fix my boot logo screen
[15:49] <pantato> and the package that seems to allow it to work now is
[15:50] <pantato> kubuntu-driver-manager
[15:50] <pantato> once I reinstalled that, i could boot again
[15:50] <pantato> but when i removed all the kubuntu packages, i couldn't boot. WHy would that be the case if I'm running gdm3?
[15:50] <pantato> and have been this entire time
[15:52] <hggdh> pantato: wait. you could not *boot*?
[15:52] <pantato> hggdh: nope, it appeared to be stuck on some device load or something when i caught a glimpse of it
[15:52] <pantato> it was like /dev/sdd1 or something
[15:52] <pantato> really strange
[15:53] <pantato> it would hang, then i'd be prompted to go to emergency mode or whatever
[15:54] <hggdh> pantato: got to answer some work emails, so I will be off for a while. It sounds like the boot process expected a device to be available on boot, and hung there
[15:55] <hggdh> now, how this integrates with KDE, IDK
[16:15] <KLK> hello i got a problem with my bc4311 wireless card  ,,it dosent show up on list.. last night  i did make it funktional  .. but my hdd  burned,, so now i need to get the right cutter ,, any help people
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> KLK: have you got ubuntu-restricted-extras installed mate?
[16:15] <KLK> new hdd  , new ubuntu ,, new firmware drivers
[16:15] <KLK> lotus i dont know  iam new at this
[16:16] <KLK> how do i see if i got it  installed ?
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> KLK: apt-cache policy ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> KLK: you say nex firmware drivers? where did you got those from?
[16:17] <KLK> lotus no i dont have
[16:17] <KLK> the problem is  i cant remeber where i got it
[16:17] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/956698/bcm4311-no-option-to-enable-wi-fi
[16:17] <KLK> i wass called something like b43cutter
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> KLK: can you hastebin.com the output of: sudo lshw -C network for us?
[16:18] <KLK> sec
[16:19] <KLK> i got a hardware button for wifi  but it wont function  when not the right  driver is installed
[16:19] <KLK> so its also hardblocked untill driver installed
[16:19] <oerheks> install, and reboot, i guess
[16:20] <KLK> Lotus how do i show u the hastebin.com
[16:21] <KLK> lotus i think i got it  ,, here you go
[16:21] <KLK> https://hastebin.com/xetawafavi.coffeescript
[16:22] <KLK> lotus  u there ?
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> KLK: yes, give me the time to look at it :p this is your driver driver=b43-pci-bridge
[16:22] <KLK> yes it is
[16:22] <KLK> lotus sorry ofcourse i will give u time
[16:23] <KLK> :D
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> KLK: so, you can try install ubuntu-restricted-extras and reboot
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> KLK: or follow the link from oerheks
[16:24] <KLK> lotus i dont know how,, give me a sec  iam noob
[16:24] <metbsd> hi
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: welcome to ubuntu support, how can we help you?
[16:24] <metbsd> after upgrade to 18, no more login manager
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: what kind of graphics card, and from wich ubuntu release or you upgrading?
[16:25] <KLK> lotus i think i got it..its 140 mb
[16:25] <metbsd> sudo init 5 don't work
[16:25] <metbsd> still in cmi
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> KLK: yes install and reboot please
[16:26] <metbsd> it was working before i upgrade
[16:26] <metbsd> how to check version
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: lsb_release -a
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: sudo lshw -C video
[16:27] <KLK> lotus how do i get past the package setup screen  ?
[16:27] <metbsd> 18.04 lts
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> KLK: what package setup?
[16:27] <metbsd> its all strange square
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> KLK: you mean the graphical part inside terminal?
[16:28] <KLK> yes
[16:28] <oerheks> klk use tab and space
[16:28] <KLK> ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> KLK: press TAB
[16:28] <KLK> thx
[16:28] <cristian__> mhm
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> cristian__: can we help you?
[16:28] <metbsd> how do i change locale?
[16:28] <metbsd> command line now
[16:28] <cristian__> im just reading the dialog for info
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: let me try again, from wich ubuntu are you upgrading from? and what graphics card do you have?
[16:29] <tallguy> hello ubuntu folks, i'd like a wee bit of help ...
[16:29] <jk^> is it possibile to upgrade my lubuntu 16.04.4 LTS to 18.04 LTS without terminal? is there a gui way to do it?
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | tallguy
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | jk^
[16:29] <nacc> jk^: not yet supported, so i'd wait
[16:29] <jk^> tnx
[16:30] <KLK> lotus why am i getting  .exe files
[16:30] <KLK> ??
[16:30] <metbsd> lotuspsychje: 17.04 to 18.04
[16:30] <metbsd> it's thinkpad x230
[16:30] <nacc> KLK: "mscorefonts" are windows fonts, iirc?
[16:31] <KLK> iirc ??
[16:31] <nacc> KLK: "if i recall correctly"
[16:31] <KLK> iam not sure what iirc is ?
[16:31] <nacc> KLK: I just do you.
[16:31] <nacc> *just told you
[16:31] <oerheks> ubuntu unpacks that exe archive, no worries
[16:31] <KLK> ok thx
[16:31] <nacc> KLK: iirc = "if i recall correctly"
[16:31] <KLK> i dont like exe though
[16:31] <jk^> !off-topic
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: 17.04 is end of life
[16:32] <tallguy> k, i',m running 16.04LTS and need a wee bit of help - how does one set a longer interval before the o/s hibernates for inactivity?
[16:32] <nacc> KLK: then don't use windows fonts
[16:32] <KLK> ill be back in a minute .. reboot cumming up
[16:32] <KLK> sec
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: you sure it wasnt 17.10 you upgraded from?
[16:33] <cristian__> Does anyone know how to enable the root account on Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:33] <oerheks> tallguy, systemsettings > brightness & lock
[16:33] <tallguy> great thank you :)
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | cristian__
[16:33] <nacc> cristian__: don't. use sudo.
[16:33] <oerheks> cristian__, there is a wiki but we don't give support after that
[16:34] <oerheks> you will mess up your env
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> metbsd: can you recall you were using xorg or wayland on previous ubuntu? and on wich graphics card please?
[16:35] <cristian__> ok
[16:35] <KLK> loyus hello iam back ..
[16:35] <KLK> lotus
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> KLK: your wifi work now?
[16:35] <tallguy> thank you oerheks, so simple but i had not found it :)
[16:36] <oerheks> tallguy, have fuN!
[16:36] <KLK> nope its till not listed when i click my network mannager
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> KLK: can you go check your additional drivers tab in software&sources please?
[16:36] <KLK> how ?
[16:36] <KLK> sec
[16:37] <cristian__> Im only asking because in the terminal I use the command "cd /root" and it gives me and error "Persmission Denied" but when I try to view it using "sudo" it gives me the error "bash: cd: /root: Permission denied"
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> KLK: see wich drivers are available for your system
[16:37] <KLK> sec
[16:37] <nacc> cristian__: cd is a bash builtin
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> cristian__: can you start from the beginning? what are you trying to do exactly?
[16:37] <nacc> cristian__: `sudo cd` is nonsense
[16:37] <nacc> cristian__: why do you need to change to root's home directory?
[16:38] <oerheks> what guide tells you to "cd /root"  ??
[16:38] <nacc> lots of questions :)
[16:38] <cristian__> Im studying for the LPIC, so Im navigating all the folders through the terminal to get a feel around the FS.
[16:39] <KLK> lotus broadcom 802.11 linux STA wireless driver from bcmwl-kernel-source(propriotary
[16:39] <nacc> cristian__: just read `man hier`
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> KLK: ok wich driver is active right now?
[16:39] <nacc> cristian__: and if you actually need to navigate your entire filesystem, become root with `sudo -s -H`
[16:39] <KLK> the one i just typed in
[16:39] <cristian__> ok thank you
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> KLK: are there others in the list?
[16:40] <KLK> nope
[16:40] <KLK> well sec ...
[16:41] <KLK> lotus nope no other drivers available
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> KLK: try this from terminal: sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer
[16:41] <KLK> lotus  ok  sec
[16:42] <cristian__> Im using a Mac, I found out how to fix the driver issue
[16:44] <cristian__> What KLK said its the packages you need to make it work
[16:44] <KLK> lotus , installed firmware-b43-installer
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> KLK: ok reboot and c heck wifi again
[16:45] <KLK> ok ill try that .... sec
[16:48] <KLK> iam back
[16:48] <KLK> maybe iam not adressing the right problem
[16:49] <KLK> lotus  last night i installed something like c43cutter i dont know if that did the trick,, i need some software to activate my wifi HARDWARE button
[16:49] <KLK> bc43cutter  or something like that
[16:49] <edgar_> hi everybody in the kerel 4.15.0.x, the intel-microcode is no avaliable
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> KLK: b43-fwcutter ?
[16:49] <Randolf> My Windows 10 crashed, and it can't repair itself.  I'm just copying the hard drive with a different machine.
[16:50] <Randolf> I'm moving to Ubuntu Desktop now.
[16:50] <Randolf> It's fast.
[16:50] <KLK> lotus yes thats it  i think '
[16:50] <Randolf> I'm having some issue with Wine though.
[16:50] <edgar_> but in the system is installed somebody know something about it?
[16:50] <Randolf> q4wine is asking for a "console application settings" binary, but I don't know what to enter there.
[16:50] <Randolf> Any suggestions?  Thanks.
[16:50] <KLK> lotus first  of all i have to get it to show op as a wireles device in my network mannager  before i can activate  it with my hardware button
[16:51] <KLK> lotus  i think   maybe it wont regonize my HW button for wifi
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> KLK: go check additional drivers again
[16:52] <eyeoh> nacc / cristian__: Is sudo su the same as sudo -s -H ?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> KLK: you might also need to purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:52] <KLK> lotus how do i  do that
[16:53] <KLK> man purge
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> KLK: try this: sudo apt purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:53] <KLK> aaah ok i see   i use apt for that
[16:53] <KLK> thx
[16:56] <KLK> lotus Done!
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> KLK: reboot and test again :p
[16:56] <KLK> lotus  ok :D
[16:56] <KLK> sexc
[16:56] <KLK> sec
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> charlotte: so fixxed now?
[17:03] <charlotte> 50 % fixed
[17:03] <charlotte> lotus now it lists it in network mannager but its blanked out
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> charlotte: can you see ssid's?
[17:04] <Pencil2> I got this error on my ubuntu 18.04.  Says I must reinstall package  gnome-software-common 3.28.1   I'm a user.  Don't know what to do.
[17:04] <charlotte> lotus when i boot my maschine the wifi hardware button  lights turns  on  and then of again
[17:05] <KLK> lotus is  not active but now it sees it
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> KLK: check if you can click an ssid?
[17:05] <KLK> lotus i cant
[17:05] <KLK> its not active
[17:06] <KLK> but it regonizez it
[17:06] <KLK> aaaargh ;;; FCK SAKE
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> KLK: you have the wifi icon, but you can enable wifi?
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> cant
[17:07] <KLK> i cant enable it keeps  being hardware blocked
[17:07] <tomreyn> Pencil2: open a temrinal window and run "sudo apt update; sudo apt -f install; sudo apt install gnome-software-common", then post the output of these commands at https://paste.ubuntu.com , submit the post and and tell us the web address you end up on
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> KLK: do you have uefi stuff enabled or so that could block?
[17:07] <KLK> when i boot the light turns on ,, and then back off again  after a  while
[17:07] <KLK> lotus
[17:08] <KLK> i just  reinstalled ubuntu 16.04
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> KLK: singleboot or dualboot with windows?
[17:08] <KLK> lotus single boot
[17:08] <edgar_>  hi, someone have a tutorial to optimise ubuntu 18.04 for ssd
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> KLK: ok good, have you disabled fastboot or secureboot?
[17:09] <KLK> old HP compaq nx 7300
[17:09] <KLK> lotus that is not the problem iam allmost sure
[17:09]  * _Dbug_ has been running Ubuntu on SSDs for a bunch of years... without optimizing anything :D
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> KLK: ok
[17:09] <KLK> lotus   u want me to go bios right ?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> KLK: if it has no uefi, nevermind
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> KLK: try this from terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog and play around with your wifi a bit enabled/disable see what kind of erros you get
[17:10] <tomreyn> edgar_: it's usually most helpful if you can stay connected after asking a question. ;)
[17:11] <tomreyn> ...
[17:11] <KLK> i cant  play around with it  the hardware button is not active
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> KLK: have you also tryed connecting your computer with a cable and update your system?
[17:11] <Randolf> Does anyone here use WINE?
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> KLK: you have an ethernet port in your pc right?
[17:12] <KLK> lotus yes ofcourse.. else i wouldent be able  to chat  with  you
[17:12] <KLK> :D
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> KLK: ok can you check if your system is up to date? sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[17:13] <KLK> sec
[17:16] <KLK> lotus iam up to date '
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> KLK: ok good
[17:16] <KLK> when i click  my hardware button its says.... charlotte-HP-Compaq-nx7300-RH676ET-ABY systemd[1]: Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> KLK: i seen some older systems with a weird bios setting wifi 'last state' to get problems on ubuntu, maybe doublecheck also
[17:17] <KLK> lotus its not bios related  i know this :D
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> KLK: after that im out of ideas, check your syslog for errors or try switching drivers from your additional drivers list
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> KLK: check your syslog, and lets have facts whats going on your system
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> Randolf: ask your real question to the channel please
[17:18] <KLK> lotus what about the bc43cutter ??  what is  it what does it do ?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> KLK: b43-fwcutter - utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[17:19] <KLK> aah ok
[17:19] <KLK> lotus,, am i not having the right  firmware
[17:19] <KLK> ?
[17:19] <KLK> god dan it i made this  work last nightg
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> KLK: cant you recall what you did anymore? check your dpkg logs?
[17:20] <KLK> there is nothing ,, i just reinstalled ubuntu
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> KLK: why did you reinstall if you got it working before?
[17:22] <memphisto> KLK: try doing the following: go to BIOS Setup (press F10 at startup) -> System Configuration -> Built-In Device Options -> enable (double click) the following: Wireless Button state, Embedded WLAN Device, Embedded Bluetooth Device, LAN/WLAN Switching.
[17:22] <KLK> lotus  because i upgraded  from 16.04 to 17 and it crippled my system
[17:23] <KLK> First  of all its not a  bios related problem,, second i dont even have thouse  options,, i told  u iam sitting on a compaq nx 7300
[17:24] <memphisto> so, you are on clean install of 16.04 or 17.x
[17:25] <memphisto> and you have non working wifi
[17:25] <KLK> and iam sorry for being like this but this is getting on my nerves
[17:25] <memphisto> sorry i came ab it late,,didnt' see what you were writing
[17:25] <KLK> iam 2 sec away from putting a hammer throug this lappie
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: he's on a broadcom and tryed installing few drivers
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: none of what we tryed made his wifi availableµ
[17:26] <KLK> i need the right firmware to activate my hw button
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[17:26] <Randolf> So, I've got Ubuntu 18.04 LTS installed on my laptop.  It is wonderful that it asks if I want to do updates automatically or manually before installing any updates.  You folks got this right, and I'm very happy about this.  I'm sick and tired of Windows 10 automatically updating and rebooting in the middle of the day, even when it's configured not to do updates.
[17:26] <memphisto> KLK: what ubuntu version, and what kernel version
[17:27] <KLK> 16.04 how do i see what kernel.. IAM NOOB
[17:27] <memphisto> uname -r
[17:28] <KLK> memphis 4.13.0-45-generic
[17:28] <memphisto> thats good, newer, so you have HWE enabled
[17:28] <i-make-robots> hi ubuntu.  I'm having trouble with php-fpm using waaaay too much cpu.  what's a good channel to seek for help, please?
[17:28] <i-make-robots> i'm on an ubuntu box, which is why i started here.
[17:28] <KLK> what is hwe ???
[17:29] <nacc> !hwe | KLK
[17:29] <Guest88030> the php-fm channel i-make-robots :)
[17:29] <memphisto> and what wifi is it ? lspci |grep -i net
[17:29] <nacc> i-make-robots: are you actively using php on  your system?
[17:29] <KLK> memphis when i boot my computer the wifi hardware buttons lights  tunrs on ,, and then after a litle while it turns off again ,, and from there  i cant interact with the button ,,, nothing happens when i press it
[17:30] <tshirtman> hello, i have a network interface issue on my server, i remember trying to set a bridge network some time ago, and i botched it, but it worked if i typed the right command after boot, now, i rebooted the server months later and i've no idea about the magic i did, and i'd like to get back to the normal setup anyway, so, quick recap, i now have br0 that doesn't work and that had eth2 linked to, but
[17:30] <tshirtman> eth2 is nowhere to be found, can't find it in ifconfig or "ip a" or "ip l", i only see virtual interfaces here, i did use brctl to delete the bridge, and setup etc/network/interfaces to setup eth2 (and eth0, just in case) back to dhcp, but even after reboot, i see no change, (except there is no br0 anymore), i can still see the physical device in the output of lspci and lshw, but i see no trace
[17:30] <memphisto> KLK: ok, but lets see what does ubuntu see; what drivers does it use; then lets go through syslog/kernel.log
[17:30] <tshirtman> of it in any network command i know, any advice?
[17:31] <KLK> memphis,, how do i do that,, sorry iam all new at  this
[17:31] <Pencil2> have a good day .  bye
[17:31] <memphisto> lspci |grep -i net
[17:32] <SlowJimmy> I would like to set up the vpn in the net config file how do i do this?
[17:32] <SlowJimmy> is it possible to have the vpn reconnect every say 50 minutes?
[17:32] <Kazuski> hello
[17:32] <SlowJimmy> hi
[17:33] <KLK> memphis iam gettign htis ------> 02:0e.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[17:33] <KLK> 10:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[17:33] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> hi
[17:33] <nacc> !pastebin | KLK
[17:33] <tshirtman> memphisto: "05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev15)" (hand copied)
[17:33] <memphisto> lspci -s 05:00.0 -k
[17:33] <nacc> tshirtman: i believe memphisto is talking to KLK
[17:33] <nacc> memphisto: it would help to preface every line with their nick
[17:35] <memphisto> KLK: lspci -s 10:00.0 -k
[17:35] <tshirtman> memphisto: do i need to retype all that or am i looking for some specific info? the kernel module is r8168 if that's what we are looking for
[17:35] <nacc> tshirtman: afaict, memphisto is not tryign to assist you
[17:35] <memphisto> tshirtman: sorry , nacc was right, i was talking to KLK
[17:36] <tshirtman> oh
[17:36] <memphisto> tshirtman: i didn't see your issue
[17:36] <tshirtman> funny, you put me on something anyway, seems that module is not loaded
[17:36] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> this is real?
[17:36] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> or fake?
[17:38] <oerheks> tshirtman, eth2 ... that is the old way, you should see ens0p1 or somthing like that
[17:38] <tshirtman> yes, that's an ubuntu 16.04
[17:38] <tshirtman> i know about the new naming, but neither is there
[17:38] <oerheks> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[17:38] <tshirtman> but thanks
[17:39] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> some one can chat?
[17:39] <oerheks> can you pastebin the output of 'ip' ??
[17:39] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> im alone in here
[17:39] <tshirtman> seems i don't have the required module for that card with that kernel, i'll try to boot an older one
[17:39] <tshirtman> oerheks: it's a bit long without network, i could take a pic though
[17:39] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> you want kernel?
[17:40] <oerheks> !info r8168-dkms
[17:40] <oerheks> https://www.unixblogger.com/2016/08/11/how-to-get-your-realtek-rtl8111rtl8168-working-updated-guide/
[17:40] <tshirtman> oh, that's great, thanks
[17:40] <oerheks> :-)
[17:41] <oerheks> it can take minutes, building
[17:41] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> oh
[17:42] <tshirtman> ok, let's give network to that box somehow, or it's going to be a pita to follow that, i'll try tethering or wifi
[17:42] <oerheks> no 2nd ethernetport?
[17:43] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> im cant speak english
[17:43] <nacc> MR_Sp0ngeBoB: this is not a room for chitchat, but for ubuntu support.
[17:44] <tshirtman> oerheks: no, it's going to be fun :)
[17:46] <ddoobb> Is the standard Ubuntu update procedure to do a fresh install and install everything again? Is there anything that can help in migrating?
[17:46] <deskwizard> Howdy!
[17:47] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> i want exit
[17:47] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> i want quit maksud gw
[17:47] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> lu ngerti ka
[17:47] <nacc> ddoobb: 'standard update procedure'?
[17:47] <leftyfb> MR_Sp0ngeBoB: type /quit
[17:47] <deskwizard> I was wondering if it was possible to have that service -> https://pastebin.com/b82frDxV run at startup as well, ideally once the gui is up
[17:47] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> yes
[17:47] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> i know
[17:47] <MR_Sp0ngeBoB> thabks
[17:47] <leftyfb> ddoobb: Ubuntu has upgrade methods. Especially between LTS releases
[17:48] <ddoobb> nacc I mean updating to a new release of Ubuntu.
[17:48] <nacc> ddoobb: you do not need to reinstall to do taht, no.
[17:49] <oerheks> upgrading would keep apps, if they are available.
[17:49] <ddoobb> leftyfb: I'm suck on a non LTS release, 16.10. No updates through apt-get update
[17:49] <nacc> !eolupgrade | ddoobb
[17:49] <nacc> ddoobb: you are not just a non-LTS, you haven't gotten updates in ... a year?
[17:50] <oerheks> do the old-versions dance, la la la
[17:50] <leftyfb> ddoobb: follow the link posted, once you get to a recent/supported version of ubuntu, I would highly suggest only upgrading to/sticking with LTS releases
[17:50] <oerheks> but that would get you to 17.04, and again, you need to upgrade?
[17:50] <leftyfb> yup
[17:50] <leftyfb> then to 17.10, then to 18.04
[17:50] <ddoobb> This is on a machine that was catching dust for a year, so don't judge me, please.
[17:51] <nacc> ddoobb: if it was just dust, reinstall it then
[17:51] <nacc> ddoobb: you weren't using it for at least a year :)
[17:51] <oerheks> backup, plugin the iso on usb, and you would get the option too, to upgrade to 18.04
[17:51] <leftyfb> ddoobb: exactly why I'm suggesting sticking with LTS releases. They're supported for 5 years
[17:51] <nacc> of the default ubuntu flavor at least, to be clear
[17:55] <ddoobb> Would you guys recommend a fresh install or the triple upgrade?
[17:55] <nacc> ddoobb: fresh install, tbh.
[17:55] <leftyfb> ddoobb: I would recommend a fresh install
[17:55] <wurgle> Hello, I have a question regarding shell scripts. I have a binary file which uses ffmpeg, when I run it as ./file, it runs as intended. However, when running it inside a shell script, it says that ffmpeg command could not be found. I'm able to run the ffmpeg in the folder I'm running the shell script in.
[17:56] <i-make-robots> nacc - yes?  I'm running apache and php.  your question confuses me, I'm unsure what you mean by "actively"
[17:56] <oerheks> 1st option: 1 hr, 2nd option can take 1/2 a day
[17:56] <leftyfb> wurgle: seek support from the person who developed the binary
[17:56] <nacc> i-make-robots: what do you mean too much cpu, essentially. if your system is actively serving web pages at a high rate, fpm will use cpu
[17:56] <ddoobb> Alright is there anything that can help with migrating apps, settings to the fresh install as opposed to manual everything?
[17:57] <wurgle> I'm the one who developed it, as it is a packaged node.js application
[17:57] <leftyfb> ddoobb: have a backup of your /home .. take note of what applications you have installed and just reinstall them with 1 command
[17:57] <FishPencil> Is there a way to reset permissions to defaults?
[17:57] <oerheks> wurgle, use full path to that script?
[17:57] <wurgle> Is there any charge in permission when a binary is run inside a shell script?
[17:57] <nacc> FishPencil: not really, no.
[17:57] <leftyfb> wurgle: ok, then use the full path to ffmpeg in the binary's code
[17:58] <wurgle> also, can you execute binary files as sudo?
[17:58] <sncr> maggotbrain: funkadelic, hell yeah
[17:58] <wurgle> like you can sh scripts with sudo sh ....?
[17:58] <leftyfb> yes
[17:58] <nacc> wurgle: of course you can.
[17:58] <nacc> wurgle: alsh sh is not what you think it is possible
[17:58] <nacc> *possibly
[18:00] <FishPencil> nacc: How about: find foo -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \; ; find foo -type f -exec chmod 555 {} \;
[18:00] <nacc> FishPencil: that would set things to 775 and 555
[18:01] <nacc> FishPencil: which may or may not be the default for whatever foo is
[18:01] <FishPencil> nacc: it seems to be if I touch file and mkdir folder
[18:01] <nacc> then your umask is weird
[18:01] <nacc> FishPencil: it makes no sense for all files to be rx for all users
[18:02] <nacc> FishPencil: given that most files are *not* executable
[18:02] <FishPencil> nacc: you're right, sorry
[18:02] <nacc> FishPencil: I told you the answer as "notreally, no". Not sure why you are disregarding that.
[18:02] <oerheks> FishPencil, use a VM with ubuntu, to copy permissions.. a lot of work http://sysadminnotebook.blogspot.com/2012/06/how-to-reset-folder-permissions-to.html
[18:02] <nacc> FishPencil: also every file you created would not be removable by default (since your user doesn't have write access)
[18:03] <FishPencil> nacc: 664 looks default for files, 775 for folders
[18:05] <nacc> FishPencil: that might be the default on your system, but that has no correlation to what the permisssions were on those files or directories
[18:05] <nacc> FishPencil: did you do something sad like chmod -R ?
[18:07] <FishPencil> nacc:  indeed
[18:09] <OnceMe> my phone said "install software on pc" and I clicked on it, while my phone was attached via cable (mtp) to my linux, is it possible that silent mode went on my linux box and installed some shady software? o dialog for install, no password prompr etc was asked from me
[18:10] <nacc> FishPencil: on / ? or osme path in your home dir?
[18:10] <FishPencil> nacc: it's actually in /var/www/domain.com
[18:10] <leftyfb> OnceMe: no
[18:12] <TDO|Denton> Hello! I have a problem I cannot solve. Ubuntu 14.04 is stuck on a black boot screen when booting in VirtualBox. Yesterday the machine worked flawlessly. Any ideas?
[18:12] <erle-> Why are Firefox updates coming so late to Ubuntu?
[18:13] <sncr> YO chak, you in here? :O
[18:13] <erle-> this is really a big risk: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-15/
[18:13] <oerheks> erle-, current is 60.0.2
[18:13] <erle-> oerheks, no, Firefox 61 was released two days ago
[18:14] <erle-> oerheks, including many critical security fixes
[18:15] <SlowJimmy> my server is running ubuntu 18  and i am trying to update it from my ubuntu 14 laptop through ssh, so far so good. but when i try to "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it returns an derror "couldnt resolve host ..." and that it failed to fetch, can this be fixed by adding default route with the ip of my gate way as argument?
[18:16] <leftyfb> SlowJimmy: there's no such thing as Ubuntu 18 or 14
[18:17] <SlowJimmy> 18.4
[18:17] <SlowJimmy> or was it 18.04?
[18:18] <i-make-robots> i'm trying to set up publickey ssh login.  when i run /usr/sbin/sshd -d i see a "failed publickey" but no reason given.  what am I missing, please?
[18:18] <oerheks> erle-, depends on your mirror, i guess, i switched to main but got no update
[18:18] <leftyfb> SlowJimmy: Ubuntu 14.04 has ""shared to other computers" as part of network manager
[18:18] <leftyfb> !ics | SlowJimmy
[18:18] <erle-> oerheks, I have main server
[18:18] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: why are you running sshd manually?
[18:18] <erle-> oerheks, it was released by Mozilla and Ubuntu does not have it yes
[18:19] <oerheks> in the next few days.. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/06/firefox-61-released-with-faster-tab-switching-on-linux .. i am still on 17.10
[18:20] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - to debug why i can't login
[18:20] <erle-> oerheks, of course it will come eventually
[18:20] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: that's what logs are for
[18:20] <erle-> I am just pointing out that it has been two days now which is quite irresponsible
[18:20] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - well i'm stupid.  which log has ssh info?
[18:20] <i-make-robots> :)
[18:21] <SlowJimmy> leftyfb no i want it to make its own connection not share its connection or let other systems share its connection, none of the sort. just straight forward i want it to update and connect to the repository
[18:21] <SlowJimmy> and it says couldnt resolve host
[18:21] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: start from the beginning. How exactly did you create your ssh keypair? What,where and how did you copy the public key to the server?
[18:22] <leftyfb> SlowJimmy: ok, plug in a network cable and set your network settings
[18:22] <leftyfb> SlowJimmy: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en
[18:23] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - thank you.  I make the key pair in bitvise, then exported the .pub and appended it to my authorized_keys file.  there was already one public key in there from another device i sometimes use.
[18:24] <SlowJimmy> ty, i checked server network status and it claims both adapters are connected among them ethernet
[18:24] <i-make-robots> i made sure there were no extra line endings, etc.
[18:24] <SlowJimmy> thanks i think your link will clear up the rest
[18:24] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: care to pastebin it?
[18:24] <i-make-robots> the authorized_keys file?
[18:24] <leftyfb> SlowJimmy: you're missing DNS config
[18:24] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: yes
[18:25] <i-make-robots> which pastebin do you prefer?  (some people get nasty about some pastebins)
[18:25] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: I don't prefer. Though this being ubuntu's support, I tend to use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:25] <oerheks> normally i would say, 3 days for firefox, 1 week or more for chromium
[18:26] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HBjQKrjPqM/
[18:27] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: that doesn't look valid to me
[18:27] <i-make-robots> sshd -t says no config errors.
[18:27] <i-make-robots> hrm.
[18:27] <nacc> i-make-robots: i don'tthink sshd -t checks your authorized_keys file
[18:28] <SlowJimmy> leftyfb thx i will look into this
[18:28] <nacc> i-make-robots: also, you should use ssh-copy-id to avoid c&p errors
[18:28] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/sFMbxTbkMK/
[18:28] <nacc> i-make-robots: you didn't append your key properly
[18:29] <i-make-robots> nacc - can i ssh-copy-id to the server when the server is refusing anyone without a valid pair?  there's no password login on this box.
[18:29] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: try the pastebin I just gave you
[18:29] <nacc> i-make-robots: ah then no you can't
[18:32] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - good call.  authorized_keys were badly formatted.  thank you!  it works.
[18:32] <sha> hi
[18:33] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: future reference, /var/log/auth.log
[18:33] <i-make-robots> i looked, it was empty
[18:33] <sha> someone knows how can I have some indication in bionic dock for new notifications in app?
[18:33] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: it should not be empty if you're running sshd as a service
[18:33] <i-make-robots> now i have less-awful access, i can get down to the real problem I came to solve: why php-fpm7 is sucking up 50% of the cpu and delivering pages so damn slowly
[18:34] <sha> for example, if I got new message in some IM, so the icon background will be changed?
[18:34] <nacc> i-make-robots: check the logs, i guess
[18:35] <sha> anyone?
[18:35] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: disable ALL pages. Just put a phpinfo script and hit it and see if you still see resource issues?
[18:40] <oerheks> sha, find an indicator for your  "new app" in gnome extentions, something like this https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/use-indicator-applets-gnome-shell
[18:40] <i-make-robots> woah.  mysqld using 101.5% cpu?  something wrong going on there...
[18:42] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: If this server is public, I would look into abuse. Maybe a wordpress plugin or comments on some page or forum posts
[18:45] <sha> oerheks, thanks but I mean intication in the dock
[18:45] <oerheks> sha, yes?
[18:46] <qwebirc15989> I gotta connect to irc more often. Joined to ask question on display problem had for last two days, solved while connecting
[18:47] <qwebirc15989> How do I add applets though? 18.04, right clicked on top bar doesn't bring up options
[18:48] <deskwizard> qwebirc15989: really? damn, let me reconnect ...
[18:48] <deskwizard> hehehe ;)
[18:49] <oerheks> look in systemsettings, for app indicators settings
[18:51] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - any tips for investigating abuse?  I don't see spam posts in the forums.
[18:53] <leftyfb> i-make-robots: not really. Gotta look up info on your forum. Gotta learn mysql, logging, etc. Basically, you need to be better at running a public server
[18:54] <tomreyn> i-make-robots: check webserver access logs. 101.5% cpu can be ok, though, if it's a multi core sytem.
[18:54] <qwebirc15989> oerheks: not seeing any app indicator settings
[18:55] <oerheks> ubuntu calls them not ifications
[18:55] <sha> oerheks: "yes" what?
[18:55] <oerheks> sha yes, you tell us what 'new' app you talk about?
[18:55] <oerheks> or do we need to ask?
[18:56] <sha> if I have running an app I can see it's icon on the dock (left side), right?
[18:56] <ioria> usually
[18:57] <blackswan> can anybody suggest a pointy-clicky graphical ldap administration tool suitable for a very small network?
[18:57] <sha> for example some messaging app... now if I'm getting a message, i'm not seeing any indication that new message is waiting for me
[18:58] <sha> in ubuntu 16.04, the background of the app icon, was changing
[19:00] <ioria> sha so, we need to ask :  what app is that ?
[19:00] <oerheks> !info jxplorer
[19:01] <sha> ioria, for example Siganl, but any app
[19:01] <ioria> sha  it's a snap ?
[19:01] <sha> nope
[19:02] <ioria> sha   from an official ubuntu repo  ?
[19:02] <sha> nope
[19:02] <oerheks> ohhhhhh ...
[19:02] <nacc> seems like a question for the app provider then
[19:02] <oerheks> i though we had a bug
[19:02] <oerheks> lolz
[19:02] <oerheks> nice attitude, sha
[19:02] <sha> but, in ubuntu 16.04 it's worked fine
[19:03] <sha> and it's not only this app
[19:03] <ioria> sha   yeah, that ^ ... but you can stillinstall unity if you want ....
[19:03] <nacc> sha: so? that's a rather different desktop environment
[19:03] <ioria> !info unity-session
[19:03] <sha> no backword comptability?
[19:03] <sha> backward
[19:03] <sha> thanks
[19:04] <blackswan> thx oerheks
[19:04] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/signal-desktop
[19:04] <oerheks> 1.13
[19:04] <ioria> sha   try the snap
[19:05] <sha> thanks
[19:05] <ioria> sha   sudo snap install signal-desktop
[19:05] <oerheks> have fun!
[19:05] <Urden> my ubuntu upgrade hung during compilation of the virtualbox kernel module :(  now i'm afraid to ctrl+c in case something breaks
[19:06] <sha> i don't like using snaps, heard about malicious ones
[19:06] <sha> I prefer official repos
[19:06] <ioria> i see, that why you installed an external pkg, right ?
[19:08] <sha> official package repo
[19:09] <sha> this package is missing in ubuntu official repos
[19:09] <nacc> sha: in the context of this channel, that makes it unofficial
[19:09] <sha> snap is official?
[19:09] <ioria> Urden, i'am afraid is a bug ...
[19:10] <Urden> ioria, yeah, i'm seeing there's something amiss...  i killed apt-get, then try to re-run it, and it says i need to manually run dpkg --continue -a
[19:11] <ioria> sha something in the middle
[19:11] <Urden> so i do, and now its hung at the same spit again
[19:11] <ioria> Urden, maybe you need to dpkg -p virtualbox pkgs
[19:11] <Urden> -p does what?
[19:12] <Urden> purges them?
[19:12] <ioria> Urden, yes, but only if apt is broken ... can you confirm this ?
[19:13] <Urden> im not sure if apt is broken, it runs fine until it hits this kernel module compiling step...no idea what's causing it to hang
[19:13] <Urden> my ubuntu upgrade hung during compilation of the virtualbox kernel module :(
[19:13] <sha> ioria, ok, thanks anyway
[19:13] <ioria> a dkms / secure boot thing
[19:13] <Urden> ahhhh
[19:13] <oerheks> ohh, that dkms build can take minutes, be patient
[19:13] <Urden> i think my friend ran into this same bug earlier
[19:14] <oerheks> there should be an indicator, to assure the user, i see this a lot lately
[19:14] <Urden> oerheks, ok...i can do that.  i thought it was dead cause the CPU usage dropped to normal and nothing seemed to be actively compiling
[19:14] <Urden> there should be yeah
[19:14] <ioria> Urden, for now, paste  dpkg -l | grep virtualbox
[19:14] <oerheks> if your caps lock work, no worries
[19:14] <Urden> ok
[19:15] <Urden> the output of that dpkg -l | grep virtualbox command lists 4 packages
[19:16] <ioria> Urden, we'd like to see the flags
[19:16] <Urden> ok sec
[19:16] <ioria> Urden, dpkg -l | grep virtualbox | pastebinit
[19:16] <Urden> https://pastebin.com/7Dsgukbm
[19:17] <ioria> yep, broken
[19:17] <Urden> oh no :(
[19:17] <ioria> Urden, try to purge with apt.... what i think won't work
[19:18] <Urden> ok
[19:18] <Urden> so i go through and purge all 4 packages listed?
[19:18] <ioria> nope
[19:18] <ioria> 3
[19:19] <ioria> Urden,  virtualbox, -qt, -dkms
[19:19] <Urden> ok
[19:21] <Urden> ioria, dpkg-query: package 'virtualbox-qt' is not available
[19:21] <Urden> happens for all 3
[19:22] <Urden> man, this is making me feel like a n00b lol.  never had apt break before
[19:22] <ioria> Urden,  for what coomand ?
[19:22] <ioria> *command
[19:22] <Urden> yoh@asus:~$ dpkg -p virtualbox-qt
[19:23] <EriC^> Urden: it's -P
[19:23] <ioria> Urden,  i think i told you to try first apt ...
[19:23] <Urden> ahhh
[19:23] <EriC^> or sudo apt-get purge ..
[19:23] <ioria> Urden,  apt,apt, apt :þ
[19:23] <ioria> Urden,  after, we try dpkg -P
[19:23] <Urden> oops
[19:25] <Urden> ioria,
[19:25] <Urden> yoh@asus:~$ sudo apt-get purge virtualbox
[19:25] <Urden> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[19:26] <ioria> Urden, ok, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-qt
[19:26] <Urden> ok
[19:26] <Urden> that succeeded
[19:26] <Urden> do the same for the other 2 packages?
[19:27] <ioria> Urden, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox
[19:27] <Urden> success
[19:27] <ioria> Urden, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-dkms
[19:27] <Urden> done
[19:27] <ioria> Urden, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:28] <Urden> ioria, https://pastebin.com/T1kBqj65
[19:29] <ioria> !info shim-signed
[19:29] <Urden> huh...
[19:30] <Urden> so somehow, a package not required is being called by dpkg?
[19:30] <ioria> Urden, dpkg -l | grep shim-signed | pastebinit
[19:31] <ryuguns> HEy, on Windows, my parents used this feature that allowed them to type in a pin code instead of a password on the lockscreen.
[19:31] <ryuguns> Is there a way to do this with Ubuntu?
[19:31] <Urden> ioria, https://pastebin.com/F1gsdPDj
[19:32] <ioria> Urden, sorry, idk what that is
[19:32]  * Urden ponders
[19:32] <Urden> might have to dig into google
[19:33] <ioria> Urden, remove it  :þ ?
[19:33] <Urden> im very hesitant to remove anything having to do with the bootloader...i dont want to end up with an unbootable system
[19:34] <ioria> Urden, i see
[19:34] <Urden> ioria, i'll google around and see what it does...i have a feeling its some sort of wrapper that integrates into secure boot features of EFI or something
[19:34] <Urden> thanks, MS :(
[19:35] <ioria> Urden, dual booting?
[19:35] <Urden> nope...100% ubuntu
[19:35] <ioria> Urden, so... remove it
[19:35] <ioria> Urden, it's about Microsoft-signed binary)
[19:35] <Urden> yeah...and the only reason I can imagine thats needed is to trick the bootloader into thinking its booting an MS OS
[19:36] <Urden> probably some stupid shit with this particular laptop
[19:36] <ioria> Urden, you can always reinstall it
[19:36] <Urden> i *hope* so ;p
[19:37] <hxmuller> Urden: shim is a trivial EFI application that, when run, attempts to open and execute another application. That's from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed
[19:37] <ioria> Urden, and about virtualbox,i guess  you need to disable SB
[19:37] <ioria> hxmuller, thanx
[19:37] <Urden> ahhh ok
[19:37] <Urden> thanks hxmuller
[19:38] <hxmuller> welcome!
[19:38] <Urden> i thought i had SB disabled
[19:38] <Urden> i wonder if it somehow got reenabled
[19:38] <ioria> Urden, are you sure ?
[19:39] <Urden> its just very odd that it would be present in Bionic
[19:39] <Urden> i did upgrade this though, so maybe its left over cruft
[19:39] <ioria> Urden, mokutil --sb-state
[19:39] <i-make-robots> leftyfb - thank you for your generous help.  I really appreciate it.  Stay awesome!
[19:39] <Urden> yoh@asus:~$ mokutil --sb-state
[19:39] <Urden> SecureBoot enabled
[19:39] <Urden> aha
[19:39] <Urden> thats the culprit
[19:39] <ioria> yep
[19:39] <Urden> new kernel module for virtualbox must need it disabled
[19:40] <ioria> something like that
[19:40] <Urden> ok that will probably solve the problem then
[19:40] <Urden> excellent
[19:40] <Urden> i'll disable it on next reboot
[19:40] <ioria> Urden, you  first need a functional apt ...
[19:40] <Urden> and my apt is now fixed
[19:40] <Urden> i just used it to install pastebinit
[19:40] <ioria> Urden, did you remove shim-signed ?
[19:40] <Urden> still throws the error about shim-signed
[19:41] <Urden> not yet no
[19:41] <ioria> ok,
[19:41] <ioria> Urden, sudo apt install --reinstall shim-signed
[19:41] <Urden> i like that idea better
[19:42] <hxmuller> Kudos to the Ubuntu Dev team. Just installed onto an Asrock AB350M Pro4 with a Ryzen 3 2200G (only had to use nomodeset with liveusb). Looks good so far
[19:43] <Urden> ioria, E: Internal Error, No file name for shim-signed:amd64
[19:43] <Urden> probably because its not in the bionic repos?
[19:43] <ioria> Urden, yep...
[19:43] <Urden> only way is to remove it then i guess
[19:44] <ioria> Urden, sudo dpkg -P shim-signed
[19:45] <Urden> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HT2NcJMKn2/
[19:46] <ioria> Urden, sudo apt update && sudo apt install dclock
[19:46] <Urden> ioria, done
[19:46] <ioria> Urden, ok... sudo apt purge dclock  :þ
[19:47] <ioria> Urden, unless you want it
[19:48] <ioria> Urden, go in bios, didsable SB and try again virtualbox install
[19:48] <rmerrill> So several pages about LUKS say "LUKS is not well-suited for applications requiring many (more than eight) users to have distinct access keys to the same device.
[19:48] <rmerrill> Is there an alternate FDE solution for linux which /is/?
[19:48] <Urden> ioria, https://pastebin.com/QyZAjtTJ
[19:49] <Urden> it looks like dclock installed and purged fine, but that shim package is still causing issues
[19:49] <Urden> ok yeah i guess i'll just reboot now
[19:49] <expl> Urden: maybe try to see what has the file open?
[19:49] <Urden> get rid of SB
[19:49] <ioria> Urden, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq shim-signed
[19:50] <Urden> expl, i had the settings app open..probably that hehe
[19:50] <Urden> closed now
[19:50] <tomreyn> hxmuller: set a bookmark for https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683 just in case this system will experience soft lockups during low load. you'd then need to set the "power supply idle control" option to "typical" (not 'auto', not 'optimized').
[19:51] <Urden> ioria, dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove shim-signed, only the config
[19:51] <Urden>  files of which are on the system; use --purge to remove them too
[19:51] <Urden> should i just add --purge?
[19:51] <hxmuller> tomreyn: thanks, saved that for later
[19:51] <ioria> Urden, dpkg -l | grep shim-signed | pastebinit
[19:51] <rmerrill> No clue? :/
[19:52] <Urden> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3QGbw5JYvx/
[19:52] <ioria> Urden, sudo dpkg -P shim-signed
[19:53] <tomreyn> rmerrill: whats the use case where you havbe more than 8 admins unlocking a crypto block device?
[19:53] <rmerrill> tomreyn: 'admins'?
[19:53] <Urden> ioria, https://pastebin.com/SMDDnTLe
[19:53] <rmerrill> Anyone who needs to use the machine needs to be able to boot it
[19:54] <Urden> ioria, i'm going to try rebooting and disabling secure boot
[19:54] <ioria> Urden, ok
[19:54] <expl> rmerrill: im curious, why does each need to have a different key?
[19:55] <tomreyn> rmerrill: well, i guess you could use a shared secret then.
[19:55] <expl> not being a smartass, just curious
[19:55] <rmerrill> I mean, we could, but it's going to end up on a post-it note on the monitor
[19:55] <rmerrill> plus, harder to change it
[19:55] <Urden> brb
[19:56] <rmerrill> them having to enter a password at all is kind of a pain as it is
[19:56] <rmerrill> The problem with shared secrets is that you lose track of who knows them
[19:58] <rmerrill> the closest thing I've found to a real solution is network-bound disk encryption but afaict no turnkey solution for that exists for ubuntu
[20:00] <rmerrill> just kinda surprises me that nobody in linuxworld has come up with a solution for this when OS X and windows both seem to have them
[20:01] <tomreyn> rmerrill: there is https://wiki.recompile.se/wiki/Mandos but it's not clear whether it actually solves the issue / just shifts the issue elsewhere / can stand peer review.
[20:01] <rodrigo__> hello
[20:01] <expl> hi rodrigo__
[20:01] <rodrigo__> hi
[20:01] <rodrigo__> its here where i can get some help from a problem?
[20:02] <expl> yes
[20:02] <Urden> ioria, SB disabled now.  boot took a bit longer after entering the password for my encrypted device
[20:02] <Urden> but i'm still here so that's good :)
[20:02] <tomreyn> rmerrill: if everyone booting the system has physical access you could use a shared key on external media, required to be attached to boot the system.
[20:02] <rodrigo__> ok, can i explain to you? or have some ppl designated for help, something like this
[20:02] <rmerrill> tomreyn: Sure, but then people will be tempted to leave that near the computer in question in which case the same person who steals the computer will likely steal the key
[20:02] <ioria> Urden, yep,  sudo apt putge shim-signed
[20:02] <ioria> Urden, yep,  sudo apt purge shim-signed
[20:03] <expl> rodrigo__: yes explain the problem in detail and if someone can help they'll reply
[20:03] <rodrigo__> ok
[20:03] <Urden> ioria, success
[20:03] <tomreyn> rmerrill: right. without good security policies + good handling, there's no use for encryption.
[20:03] <ioria> Urden, no more errors in installing a pkg ?
[20:04] <Urden> ioria, nope!  dclock installed without errors :)
[20:04] <Urden> thanks so much :D  D
[20:04] <ioria> Urden, no problem, good job
[20:05] <Urden> ioria, one last thing..     The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[20:05] <Urden>   shim
[20:05] <Urden> Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
[20:05] <Urden> can i safely remove shim too?
[20:05] <rmerrill> tomreyn: I mean... the whole thing with being an engineer is you're not supposed to just blame your users whenever your thing doesn't work :)
[20:06] <Urden> oops he left :(
[20:07] <tim_shop> Urden sudo apt autoremove is save to remove it will only delete packages that are no longer needed
[20:07] <tomreyn> rmerrill: yes, sounds solutions are needed, but also safe operation, by everyone. if either fails, security can be compromiosed. for a possible solution, also look into the hooks discussed here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Remote_unlocking_of_the_root_.28or_other.29_partition
[20:08] <tim_shop> sudo apt-get sudo apt autoremove
[20:08] <tim_shop> I mean apt-get autoremove
[20:08] <rodrigo__> That is my problem: i was doing a minimal installation of ubuntu in a computer, and in this process had done a lot of configuration in some files of /etc/, in bashrc, and others, to set a desktop environment, a login manager, etc. My last issue was configure the mousepad, it was not working properly, i had to reload the module every login, and i was trying to put that reloading to be done in a automatic way. I dont know it was th
[20:08] <rodrigo__> is that screwed something up, but now i cant login. I type my login and password, and get the message "Cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied". I tried to boot from a live cd and changing the permissions of /bin, /, and /lib, but nothing works...
[20:10] <Urden> tim_shop, ok sounds good.  thanks :)
[20:11] <rodrigo__> i was installing the system step-by-step, login manager, wm, etc, and could have messed up something in the way, i think; but the last time i power up the computer, it was to solve that mouse issue
[20:12] <rodrigo__> so, it was working until that moment
[20:13] <rmerrill> tomreyn: For any kind of network-bound solution like that I can't imagine that someone equipped with a transcript of network traffic from a successful boot plus an image of the disk couldn't decrypt it
[20:14] <rmerrill> Plus, also: how do you then secure the machine that provides this data
[20:15] <tomreyn> rmerrill: right, it shiifts the problem elsewhere.
[20:16] <rmerrill> It seems like all of the good solutions to this involve using secure enclave/TPM/something like that
[20:16] <rmerrill> but that seems to be something that linux people shun
[20:20] <blabla> rmerrill: is there maybe some transform you could use that translates all their passwords to the key
[20:20] <rmerrill> I mean sure but that involves writing code
[20:20] <rmerrill> And in fact that's what luks is already doing but it has an arbitrary limit of 8 passwords for some reason
[20:24] <tomreyn> the reson is the size of the header, they had to limit it somehow. you could maybe have multiple (externally stored?) headers and write extra software to choose which header to use.
[20:25] <tomreyn> secure enclave / TPM can be nice, if you can be sure that you are the only one to control it. that's not the case with most hardware / firmware implementations these days.
[20:32] <besh> hello
[20:32] <blabla> rodrigo__: are you in a live usb right now?
[20:32] <rodrigo__> no
[20:32] <rodrigo__> im using my notebook
[20:32] <blabla> boot one to troubleshoot the system
[20:32] <rodrigo__> ok
[20:33] <rodrigo__> im turning on the pc
[20:34] <rodrigo__> what information would be useful?
[20:34] <blabla> rodrigo__: first mount the partition, then "ls -l /mnt/bin/bash"
[20:34] <rodrigo__> ok
[20:35] <besh> may i ask for a suggestion regarding bash : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/gMRxycsVNv/
[20:36] <besh> i mean scripts :)
[20:38] <Battle> hey all, so everything was fine and has been, i noticed there were like 50 updates availabel so i ran the update, and it upgraded everything however, there seems to b something seriously wrong with the kernel upgrade
[20:38] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/uPnge8KJ
[20:39] <nacc> Battle: i think you need a -f install, not upgrade at this point
[20:39] <Battle> that produces same errors as above
[20:40] <Battle> i will paste bin that output too on emoment
[20:40] <nacc> Battle: ok
[20:40] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/Y6AjgvQM
[20:41] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[20:41] <nacc> !info linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xenial
[20:41] <ptbranco> !list
[20:42] <nacc> Battle: it seems like -46 hasn't hit the -updates yet everywhere, maybe? you can probably manually purge it with dpkg
[20:42] <Battle> sorry, im a bit of a noob, does that mean the update is showing there but isnt actually existent yet ?
[20:43] <nacc> Battle: that shouldn't be possible, but yeah
[20:44] <Battle> I see
[20:44] <Battle> I'm a bit worried about restarting my system, that it wont boot up due to the errors about not finding my disk...
[20:44] <nacc> Battle: that particularly kernel, is supposedly only in 17.10 -proposed
[20:44] <Battle> oh right
[20:45] <nacc> Battle: did you do something funky to your sources.list?
[20:45] <rodrigo__> blabla: lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ ls -l /media/lubuntu/b5ba86a7-3476-4ab4-8bbb-5e335c56bb39/bin/bash
[20:45] <rodrigo__> -rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 73 jun 24 23:31 /media/lubuntu/b5ba86a7-3476-4ab4-8bbb-5e335c56bb39/bin/bash
[20:45] <Battle> not at all, at least nott o my knowledge...
[20:45] <Battle> lemme check it out
[20:45] <nacc> Battle: you may want to report it to #ubuntu-kernel
[20:46] <Battle> this is my sources.list https://pastebin.com/q1jBjmph
[20:48] <nacc> Battle: yeah that looks ok; the i'd bring it up in #ubuntu-kernel, as rmadison also says it should only be at -35 still
[20:48] <Battle> okay, thanks
[20:48] <Battle> in the mean time, how can i fix this so that i can use apt upgrade with errors?
[20:48] <Battle> I tried dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq linux-image-4.13.0-36-generic
[20:49] <Battle> it just gives me same error as before XD
[20:51] <nacc> Battle: you might need to --force-all, nothing is using that package yet (afaict)
[20:53] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/gx7CMTHa
[20:53] <Battle> :(
[20:56] <oerheks> eject && eject -t
[20:58] <blabla> rodrigo__: no +x there
[20:58] <blabla> rodrigo__: did you run some kind of chmod command?
[20:58] <Battle> nacc do you know how i can disable all kernel updates ? (just for now)
[20:58] <nacc> Battle: grr, this is quite a pain to resolve
[20:59] <rodrigo__> just for .sh scripts
[20:59] <Battle> I agree XD
[20:59] <nacc> Battle: not trivially when dpkg/apt are both kind of messed up
[20:59] <rodrigo__> what is wrong?
[20:59] <nacc> Battle: unfortunately, i need to work on something else right now
[20:59] <blabla> rodrigo__: try "grep chmod /mnt/root/.bash_history /mnt/var/log/auth.log"
[20:59] <Battle> I googled quickly, and some people said what worked for them was to delete the files  from in here /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[21:00] <nacc> Battle: hopefully someone can help; it's silly that removing hte -extra package tries to build the initrd when you're also removing that initrd
[21:00] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:00] <Battle> so this i hope fixes it but now i want to stopt he update from getting them again XD
[21:00] <nacc> Battle: yeah, i would suggest modifing the postrm of the package
[21:00] <nacc> *pacakges
[21:01] <Battle> alright thanks illl look into9 this more i must go for nwo, thank you again :)
[21:08] <rodrigo__> and do what next?
[21:08] <rodrigo__> blabla:
[21:09] <rodrigo__> sorry the delay
[21:09] <blabla> rodrigo__: any commands appeared?
[21:10] <rodrigo__> no
[21:10] <blabla> rodrigo__: ok good
[21:10] <rodrigo__> the file .bash_history do not exist, actually
[21:11] <blabla> rodrigo__: run sudo chmod 755 /mnt/bin/bash
[21:11] <blabla> rodrigo__: what's the status of the other files there? try "ls -l /mnt/bin" and pastebin the results
[21:16] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:16] <rodrigo__> in auth.log i got theses results
[21:17] <rodrigo__> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jqG3JBnh32/
[21:17] <blabla> that last one is kind of odd
[21:19] <blabla> there's no /bin/bash/mouse cause /bin/bash isn't a dir
[21:20] <blabla> rodrigo__: anyways what's the output on "ls -l /mnt/bin" ?
[21:20] <rodrigo__> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xJjQpkQjgq/
[21:21] <blabla> rodrigo__: looks all good, try booting the system!
[21:21] <rodrigo__> ive already tried
[21:21] <rodrigo__> no good
[21:22] <blabla> even after the chmod 755 ?
[21:22] <rodrigo__> yep
[21:22] <blabla> what did it say?
[21:22] <rodrigo__> cannot execute /bin/bash: permission denied
[21:22] <rodrigo__>  (in portuguese, dont now the exact expression in english)
[21:23] <rodrigo__> know*
[21:23] <blabla> so you just mounted it again correct?
[21:23] <rodrigo__> ?
[21:23] <rodrigo__> yes
[21:24] <rodrigo__> i rebooted on live cd
[21:24] <blabla> ok try "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[21:26] <blabla> rodrigo__: what's giving you that error? when's it happening?
[21:26] <rodrigo__> when i boot from the system partition
[21:26] <rodrigo__> on the login screen
[21:27] <blabla> the tty?
[21:27] <rodrigo__> i use my login and password, and nothing happens
[21:27] <rodrigo__> in the terminal i get this message
[21:27] <blabla> oh
[21:27] <blabla> ok
[21:27] <rodrigo__> and the worst is that i dont have activated the root account, so i cant login in any way
[21:28] <blabla> it's weird
[21:28] <rodrigo__> i tried this
[21:28] <blabla> we'll try to dive into it
[21:28] <rodrigo__> "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[21:28] <FurretUber> What is required to make Ubiquity install work? After it copies the files, it's failing to install with many permission denied messages, similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1754174
[21:28] <blabla> ok, type "sudo chroot /mnt" rodrigo__
[21:30] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:30] <rodrigo__> done
[21:30] <rodrigo__> got an error
[21:30] <blabla> rodrigo__: can't execute /bin/bash?
[21:31] <rodrigo__> no
[21:31] <rodrigo__> ill paste here
[21:31] <rodrigo__> with modules
[21:31] <blabla> modules O.o
[21:31] <blabla> ok
[21:32] <rodrigo__> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Vqj3tpyrhj/
[21:33] <blabla> rodrigo__: is "ls -l /mnt/bin/bash" still +x ?
[21:34] <rodrigo__> yes
[21:34] <rodrigo__> its -rwxr-xr-x
[21:34] <blabla> so the chroot didn't work?
[21:34] <blabla> you're not now root@...#?
[21:35] <rodrigo__> im in sudo -i
[21:35] <blabla> is it the root of the live usb or ubuntu install?
[21:35] <blabla> anything in "ls /home" ?
[21:36] <rodrigo__> home directory its in another partition
[21:36] <rodrigo__> lliveusb
[21:36] <blabla> oh
[21:36] <rodrigo__> i cant login in the ubuntu installation
[21:37] <blabla> ok try this, sudo nano /mnt/etc/passwd
[21:38] <blabla> change the shell for your user to "/bin/sh"
[21:38] <blabla> see what happens when you try to login to the tty
[21:39] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:39] <blabla> kind of curious why chrooting would cause modprobe to start loading modules and stuff
[21:40] <rodrigo__> :s
[21:41] <blabla> ?
[21:42] <rodrigo__> rebooting
[21:42] <rodrigo__> i think it could be some misconfiguration from my part
[21:44] <blabla> dunno
[21:45] <blabla> looks like some missing module, sudo apt-get install --reinstall <something> should fix it
[21:45] <blabla> !find psmouse
[21:46] <blabla> !find psmouse.ko
[21:46] <blabla> rodrigo__: any luck on the tty?
[21:47] <rodrigo__> its starting
[21:47] <rodrigo__> its an old pc
[21:47] <rodrigo__> 512 mb ram
[21:47] <rodrigo__> yes
[21:48] <rodrigo__> i managed to login in tty
[21:48] <blabla> cool
[21:48] <blabla> try running "bash" as your user
[21:48] <rodrigo__> how
[21:48] <rodrigo__> bash?
[21:48] <blabla> yeah just that
[21:48] <rodrigo__> it asks for sudo password
[21:48] <blabla> huh
[21:49] <blabla> type "sudo -l"
[21:49] <blabla> do you remember editing something sudo related?
[21:49] <rodrigo__> no
[21:49] <rodrigo__> entrance for default to rodrigo in rod-pc:
[21:50] <blabla> how's that possible, running bash asks for sudo O.o
[21:50] <blabla> did you edit the bash binary somehow?
[21:51] <blabla> rodrigo__: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash"
[21:51] <rodrigo__> env_reset, mail_badpass, secure_path=/usr/local/sbin\:/usr/local/bin\:/usr/sbin\:/usr/bin\:/usr/bin\:/sbin\:/bin\:/snap/bin
[21:51] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:51] <blabla> what does "which bash" give?
[21:52] <rodrigo__> reinstalling bash
[21:53] <rodrigo__> gives: /bin/bash
[21:53] <blabla> aha
[21:53] <rodrigo__> now i could enter in bash
[21:53] <blabla> aha cool great
[21:53] <rodrigo__> without sudo
[21:53] <rodrigo__> oh
[21:53] <blabla> try "chsh" as your user
[21:53] <rodrigo__> solved
[21:54] <rodrigo__> managed to login in the X session
[21:54] <blabla> and switch it back to bash
[21:54] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:55] <rodrigo__> thanks man
[21:55] <blabla> rodrigo__: i've got to wonder, what was the deal with the old bash binary, was your system compromised at some point? did you install badly written software?
[21:55] <rodrigo__> no
[21:55] <rodrigo__> everything from ubuntu repositories
[21:55] <blabla> try "ls -l /bin/bash" again
[21:55] <blabla> we can compare sizes
[21:56] <blabla> definitely something was odd, the old size was 73
[21:57] <rodrigo__> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QzmG6RHs9t/
[21:57] <blabla> maybe it was some script, it's so small to be a binary
[21:57] <rodrigo__> i could have replaced the bash file with some other file accidentally?
[21:58] <blabla> yeah possibly
[21:59] <Pete234> Has anyone used slackware and if so, although it's an ubuntu channel, can you state the differences?
[21:59] <rodrigo__> i see
[21:59] <rodrigo__> ok
[21:59] <nacc> replacing bash with something else 'accidentally' is a big accident
[21:59] <rodrigo__> haha
[21:59] <nacc> Pete234: totally offtopic, please follow the channel guidelines
[21:59] <blabla> first line starts with 'sudo' too nacc
[21:59] <blabla> i kind of wish we "cat /bin/bash" 'd it now
[22:00] <oerheks> Pete234, find Crazytux in ##linux, he is the distrowatch expert
[22:00] <rodrigo__> the computer is very old, so i was trying to do a minimal installation with ubuntu base
[22:00] <Pete234> Not really, it is also linux
[22:00] <nacc> Pete234: and this is not a "linux" chat room.
[22:01] <blabla> rodrigo__: i think as long you you're fairly confident nobody did something malicious you're ok
[22:01] <alpha_Aquilae> mickey trump ?
[22:01] <Pete234> Lol, you mean that Ubuntu is Windows
[22:01] <rodrigo__> yes, it was just me
[22:01] <rodrigo__> thanks a lot for the help
[22:01] <blabla> no problem!
[22:01] <nacc> Pete234: I don't know what you're talking about. Please follow the guidelines.
[22:02] <Pete234> The guidelines refer to Ubuntu which is Linux, so I am not sure what you are talking about either
[22:04] <nacc> Pete234: this is the ubuntu support channel, not the general linux discussion channel.
[22:04] <nacc> Pete234: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu support, so please take it to an appropriate channel.
[22:04] <alpha_Aquilae> ubuntrump 18.06 dynamic donald
[22:04] <grg> yikes
[22:05] <Pete234> Lol, you support Ubuntu, therefore, you may as well discuss some technicalities
[22:05] <grg> is that ubuntu with a lack of a firewall?
[22:05] <nacc> alpha_Aquilae: grg: please stay ontopic too :)
[22:05] <grg> :+1:
[22:05] <alpha_Aquilae> ya!
[22:05] <oerheks> Pete234, thank you, we will
[22:05] <nacc> Pete234: no, that is not the purpose of this channel. Your question is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux.
[22:07] <Pete234> Off topic means that you are not really providing support....maybe you could try making those channels one
[22:09] <nacc> Pete234: what? please use the appropriate channel. You don't have an ubuntu support topic, so this is not the correct channel. Also, in the time you've spent arguing, I'm fairly sure you could have googled and found your answer.
[22:11] <Pete234> Come on budd, dont be so hard on yourself, we are just chatting about technical stuff. It's not politics or better yet, it is not an institution
[22:11] <blackflow> there's also #ubuntu-discuss for ubuntu related, non-support discussion.
[22:12] <Pete234> cool, I will try that... in the meantime, why dont you just tell me a few things in regards to slackware vs ubuntu
[22:12] <oerheks> that is enough, Pete234, keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks.
[22:12] <oerheks> you are told where to go
[22:13] <genii> Pete234: #ubuntu-discuss would be the channel for that partucular discussion
[22:14] <Pete234> Sure! So, let me ask you a technical question? What should I do to make Ubuntu 18.0 even more exciting as far as features are concerned?
[22:15] <leftyfb> Pete234: there's no such thing as Ubuntu 18.0
[22:15] <leftyfb> Pete234: that's also not a support question. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:15] <oerheks> write some software, and publish it.
[22:15] <oerheks> !contribute
[22:16] <Pete234> Cool.... but that is what I am using...Is there a different name out there?
[22:16] <nacc> Pete234: you are using "18.04" not "18.0" probably.
[22:16] <Pete234> haha, got you... Then what is the answer then
[22:17] <leftyfb> Pete234: Ubuntu versions are based on the year and month they were released. 18.04 refers to April(04) 2018
[22:17] <nacc> Pete234: the answer to what?
[22:17] <Pete234> to enhance 18.04 features
[22:18] <nacc> Pete234: as leftyb said, that's not a support question, and oerheks gave you a link to contribute with
[22:18] <leftyfb> Pete234: again, not a support question. Try googling for "things to do after ubuntu install"
[22:18] <nacc> Pete234: do you have any experience with open source software?
[22:19] <Pete234> Like freebsd
[22:22] <FurretUber> What is required to make Ubiquity install work? After it copies the files, it's failing to install with many permission denied messages, similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1754174
[22:24] <leftyfb> FurretUber: Is this during a default install of ubuntu on a regular PC on a regular storage device?
[22:25] <FurretUber> I'm trying to install on a VM. The image was created using debootstrap
[22:25] <oerheks> there has been an update, ubiquity
[22:25] <oerheks> !info ubiquity
[22:26] <oerheks>  .14.2
[22:26] <Guest15886> hola
[22:26] <Guest15886> hay alguien aqui?
[22:27] <leftyfb> !es | Guest15886
[22:27] <Guest15886> hi
[22:27] <Guest15886> any cant helpe with compiz on ubuntu 18.04
[22:27] <Guest15886> ?
[22:28] <FurretUber> The current Ubiquity version is newer than the one on 18.04 image, maybe this is causing the problems?
[22:28] <Guest15886> any cant help me with compiz on Ubuntu 18.04
[22:28] <Guest15886> ???
[22:29] <nacc> !patience | Guest15886
[22:29] <oerheks> compiz and xorg on 18.04 , ask away, wait and see
[22:29] <oerheks> what videocard, what did you try, following a guide?
[22:43] <FurretUber> Using the older version of Ubiquity failed too. I don't understand what package(s) my image is lacking
[22:48] <oerheks> hard to tell, without log
[22:48] <war> IRC SERVER - REGISTER NICK FREE! [22:48] <oerheks> !spam | war
[22:48] <war> sorry
[22:48] <war> ;/
[22:50] <leftyfb> war: you can register on freenode for free as well. Feel free to go to #freenode to discuss
[22:51] <FurretUber> I'm regenerating the image, I'll test again when it finishes and send the log
[23:01] <Battle> hey all so im having a problemw ith my apt upgrade, a user helped me earlier and was able to identify that for some reason, my ubuntu 16.04 received an updated kernel -45 which wasnt available for ubuntu 16.04. im not struggling to get rid of it and mark-hold to prevent it from coming again
[23:01] <Battle> apt upgrade, seems ot list the kernel update (regardless of mark hold) and i suspect its because its partially installed...or broke during install....and now i cannot get rid of it
[23:02] <leftyfb> Battle: please pastebin what you're talking about
[23:02] <Battle> ill get some fresh ones, one moment
[23:02] <tomreyn> Battle: did you mean to write: "i'm NOW struggling to get rid of it [...]"?
[23:02] <Battle> yes sorry
[23:04] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/pz2X0UDy
[23:04] <tomreyn> a better approach than holding some versions or changing apt source priorities would probably be to remove the the apt source which provides the unintended kernel version(s).
[23:04] <Battle> this is kinda worrying: grub-probe: error: disk `mduuid/4351570248a139c2fdf813affcbca916' not found.
[23:05] <leftyfb> Battle: one problem at a time please
[23:05] <Battle> that was inside the same error
[23:05] <Battle> well part of it
[23:06] <Battle> im not sure which source is providing this kernel , i showed someone earlier my sources.list and he said it looked normal
[23:06] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[23:06] <leftyfb> Battle: pastebin the output of that
[23:06] <Battle> okay
[23:07] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/YdQEBdMq
[23:07] <Battle> ahh so   http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main is providing it
[23:09] <tomreyn> "apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME" will tell
[23:09] <andrew09> Any idea on how to use Cydia Impcator on Ubuntu?
[23:09] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[23:10] <leftyfb> andrew09: you'll have to contact the developer of Cydia Impcator for support with Cydia Impcator
[23:11] <Battle> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/JxhDuhYQ
[23:11] <leftyfb> ok
[23:11] <leftyfb> Battle: uname -a (no need for pastebin)
[23:11] <Battle> Linux server 4.13.0-43-generic #48~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 17 12:56:46 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:12] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic
[23:12] <Battle> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/mpuDUfHg
[23:13] <Battle> should i try apt-get -f install?
[23:13] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-4.13.0-45-generic
[23:13] <Battle> it says same output as before
[23:13] <leftyfb> oh, I see
[23:13] <leftyfb> my bad
[23:14] <genii> One of your previous pastebins would seem to indicate the reason it's having problems removing it is because it can't determine the root device and a disk UUID for your raid device md/2 is not to be found
[23:14] <leftyfb> Battle: I have proposed repo added. You could try adding that and then installing linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[23:14] <FurretUber> oerheks: leftyfb: Here is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WbjCgbxNQC/
[23:15] <Battle> I was wondering why it said it cannot find the disk/device itself.. i could understand packages and files relating to it, but the device itself is not found?
[23:15] <leftyfb> FurretUber: sorry, I won't be helping with a custom installer image
[23:15] <Battle> leftyfb: I'm sorry i dont follow what you mean about "proposed repo" ?
[23:16] <leftyfb> Battle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[23:16] <Battle> ah
[23:19] <genii> Battle: Does: cat /proc/mdstat   ...say anything unusual?
[23:19] <FurretUber> Ok, is there some place to obtain Ubiquity information? The wiki has information for older releases, as Ubuntu 6.06
[23:20] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/5MAPwvCV
[23:20] <oerheks> FurretUber, this is an UEFI system?
[23:20] <FurretUber> Yes
[23:20] <Battle> genii that link was for you https://pastebin.com/5MAPwvCV
[23:20] <Battle> seems/looks normal to me, nothing showing errors from what i can see
[23:21] <Battle> genii https://pastebin.com/TPQTBNVL this shows errors though
[23:21] <leftyfb> Battle: I would enable proposed, install the 4.15 kernel from linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 and remove any others causing problems
[23:22] <genii> Battle: Yes, I'm just curious because of the md/2 and missing UUID message from earlier
[23:22] <Battle> leftyfb: yeah im trying to, apparently add-apt-repo... doesnt exist as a command, and i cannot install the software to provide that command as it says errors about th ekernal and that i should try apt-get -f install
[23:23] <leftyfb> Battle: you could just make your /etc/apt/sources.list look like this https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/pttV3r9nDy/
[23:25] <Battle> thanks that appears to be oding something, apt-get update is running now, lotta stuff being done
[23:25] <leftyfb> you'll probably get some other updates as well
[23:27] <Battle> erm
[23:27] <Battle> https://pastebin.com/DtDLFGcx
[23:27] <Battle> (that happens after awhole bunch of "get: XX http....."
[23:28] <Battle> )
[23:28] <Battle> i notice the error from before about the disk is there too in this one: grub-probe: error: disk `mduuid/4351570248a139c2fdf813affcbca916' not found.
[23:29] <RealUnix28200> Hello
[23:29] <RealUnix28200> cc
[23:30] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04
[23:32] <Battle> seems i cannot use pastebin.com anymore due to limit exceeded lol, found another: https://paste.ee/p/rYjN0
[23:33] <monkers> Hi, how can i have one linux server shutdown another remotely without prompting for password?
[23:36] <monkers> this is for ups low battery shutdown
[23:36] <monkers> i guess i could have a nut-server and nut-clients ?
[23:37] <Gorodish>    /quit
[23:38] <leftyfb> monkers: nut-server/client
[23:38] <leftyfb> that's the proper way
[23:39] <omega> can ubuntu run on a rasberry pi 3
[23:39] <leftyfb> Battle: ok, looks like we need to get past that grub error
[23:39] <omega> or u gotta use ubuntu mate
[23:39] <leftyfb> omega: ubuntu mate = ubuntu
[23:39] <omega> so they're exactly the same?
[23:39] <leftyfb> omega: apart from the default DE and the arm arch, yes
[23:40] <omega> aahhh kk ty
[23:40] <omega> do u happen to know the hostname and default pass ?
[23:40] <omega> is it ubuntu?
[23:40] <omega> same as ubuntu?
[23:40] <monkers> ok thanks leftyfb
[23:40] <leftyfb> omega: raspberrypi.org/downloads look there for info on it
[23:41] <Battle> leftyfb: any ideas? :(
[23:41] <leftyfb> Battle: ok, looks like we need to get past that grub error
[23:41] <Battle> yeah any ideas on what i could do to fix that?
[23:42] <Battle> its so random... i never had any issues updating packages and so on, until this kernel one
[23:43] <leftyfb> Battle: I don't think it's kernel related
[23:43] <Battle> I agree, i think the issue is related to the grub setup
[23:43] <leftyfb> Battle: you've got an encrypted volume?
[23:43] <Battle> not to my knowledge, no
[23:43] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt remove cryptsetup
[23:45] <Battle> okay that removed a bunhc of stuff
[23:46] <leftyfb> please pastebin what stuff before moving forward
[23:47] <FurretUber> Is there a place with updated information about Ubiquity?
[23:48] <Battle> lead_pipe23 https://paste.ee/p/udclA
[23:48] <Battle> ops
[23:48] <Battle> leftyfb https://paste.ee/p/udclA *
[23:48] <leftyfb> FurretUber: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity
[23:48] <leftyfb> Battle: sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-extra-4.13.0-45-generic linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 cryptsetup
[23:49] <leftyfb> Battle: is there anything in /etc/crypttab ?
[23:49] <Battle> leftyfb: https://paste.ee/p/hZ0qn
[23:50] <Battle> no that file is empty
[23:50] <Battle> except for: v
[23:50] <Battle> except for: # <target name> <source device>         <key file>      <options>
[23:51] <leftyfb> Battle: do you honest, I'm not the person to be helping you troubleshoot grub UUID problems
[23:51] <leftyfb> %s/do you/to be
[23:51] <oerheks> FurretUber, #ubuntu-installer according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity
[23:52] <oerheks> not sure what issue it is,  vm or uefi or your chrooted install
[23:53] <FurretUber> I'm investigating, there is one bug in Launchpad about a python2 package that should be installed, I'll test installing it. Thank you
[23:53] <Battle> ah I see
[23:53] <Battle> thank you for trying
[23:54] <oerheks> oh that, python2.7 is optional..
[23:54] <oerheks> !info python
[23:54] <oerheks> !info python3
[23:58] <qwebirc64446> Still trying to add applets in 18.04. I right click on top panel, but don't get anything
[23:59] <leftyfb> qwebirc64446: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/use-indicator-applets-gnome-shell   # found after I googled for "ubuntu 18.04 add applet"