 woo, the opo is here. going to try 16.04 on it first
 @AngelDMercedes, Yay I'm not the only one :B
 It broke me lol
 I got it to boot pretty much everything but ubports
 [Edit] I got it to boot pretty much everything but ubports (well, Unity 8 - the rootfs boots but Mir/Unity 8 won't play nice)
 So interesting. Telegram crashed on me and I still get notifications but I’m back at the welcome and enter your phone number screen. On 16.04
 yeah that's happened to me too
 @Lyokanthrope, Glad I’m not the only one
 Is cloudmusic available for for 16.04 bcuz I saw a video by geotechland in which cloudmusic is installed on 16.04 nexus 5
 check the open store
[09:29] <ubptgbot> <Dave S> @Vladimir, Anyone know whats happening to dekko 2 and Xenial?
 What do you mean? Dekko2 is being develop for xenial but it is not ready yet
 Hmm Dave removed his question ^ 😋
[09:33] <ubptgbot> <Dave S> @advocatux, OK just wondered how it was progressing as I need an email client.
 @Dave S, if you have gmail, there is a webapp that works wel enough (as a temp solution)https://open-store.io/app/gmail.google
 @Dave S, 👍 This is issue tracker https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/issues
 Hey together. Interesting discussion going on in our matrix room #ubports:matrix.org
 Norbert from the german company regionetz.net offered to host a ubports matrix homeserver. We are currently discussing name proposals over there.
 @YougoChats, Not available
 🤷‍♂️
 @John_athan, you might need to download the vivid version from the web site and install it manually, to get it under 16.04, right now
 @John_athan, Not yet
 yay mir 0.32
 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/mir-0-32-0-release/6774
 @mariogrip can we haz mir 0.32 for the unity8 session on 18.04? :D
 @popescu_sorin, yes we can!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/iynBhqDS.webp
 https://github.com/ubports/mir/tree/bionic \o/
 wohoooo :D
 can we have it on UT? 😻
 that was fast lol
 will unity8 on 18.04 be the "next big thing" for the core team to focus on?
 (for desktop / laptop use)
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/UlSJT1rq.mp4
 @rogieroudshoorn, next big thing is to bring the new unity8 and mir to phones
 16.04
 ah so moving to 18.04 to get it is a lot more work then?
 but nice to know :)
 yeah, systemd is the problem there
 upstart is so much better :)
 really? for the relatively simple stuff i work with it's pretty brilliant
[12:58] <bshah> systemdhate!
[12:58] <bshah> systemdisevil!
[12:58] <bshah> !!!
 someone has a highlight ;)
 what kind of problems is systemd causing?
 @rogieroudshoorn, it needs extra kernel configs, and update of all our start up files and service files
[13:11] <bshah> mariogrip *yawn*
[13:11] <bshah> :P
[13:12] <bshah> okay now I will stop trolling :P
 (Photo, 2560x1536) https://irc.ubports.com/OE04lmBG.png
[13:14] <bshah> needs glossy screen ;)
[13:14] <bshah> err
[13:14] <bshah> wait
[13:14] <bshah> that IS glossy screen
[13:14] <bshah> it needs matte screen
 @bshah, You will never stop trolling :P
 @mariogrip, nice :D
 btw.. i get a black screen :/
 do i need anything else? QtMir something?
 strange... i only see old entries in journalctl —user-unit unity8.service
 humm
 i will do a clean unstall
 @popescu_sorin, can you see if /usr/share/wayland-sessions/unity8.desktop exists_
 @popescu_sorin, [Edit] can you see if /usr/share/wayland-sessions/unity8.desktop exists?
 It,s not
 ah!
 i found the problem
 this failed to build https://ci.ubports.com/blue/organizations/jenkins/unity8-desktop-session/detail/bionic/3/pipeline
 pushed a fix for that
 Yay
 https://ci.ubports.com/blue/organizations/jenkins/unity8-desktop-session/detail/bionic/4/pipeline
 once thats built, just do apt update and upgrade and try again
 also i have added a new config for hidpi screens
 ``` … cat ~/.unity8/configs.conf  … SCALE=2```
 if you have an hidpi screen you can set scaling there
 thanks :D
 what's the res on the XPS? 4k?
 i haz 1080p
 30 dpi wololo no joke
 i use a cheap tv...
 as a monitor right now
 @mariogrip, nice!
 is it integer only? :P
 @popescu_sorin, yes 4k 3000x2000 ish, i dont have an exact number
 @vanyasem, it does float to
 it calculates it
 @mariogrip, WOOOOW!
 that's so awesome
 3200x1800 is not 4k
 but the newer ones are actual 4k (3840x2160)
 @popescu_sorin it's done building :D
 @mariogrip, yay apt list —upgradable  … Listing... Done … unity8-desktop-session/bionic,bionic 1.0.14+ubports+0~20180629135525.4~1.gbp8868f1 all [upgradable from: 1.0.14+ubports+0~20180221184021.2~1.gbpfb44cd]
 @mariogrip still nope, now i'm bouncing back to lightdm
 ls /usr/share/wayland-sessions/ … plasmawayland.desktop  unity8.desktop
 iun 29 17:15:39 pixel-desktop systemd[2062]: Starting Unity Shell v8... … iun 29 17:15:40 pixel-desktop unity8-session[2307]: [2018-06-29:17:15:40.914] Failed to create display (No such file or directory) … iun 29 17:15:41 pixel-desktop unity8-session[2307]: /usr/bin/unity8-session: line 75: [: !=: unary operator expected … iu
[14:18] <ubptgbot> n 29 17:15:41 pixel-desktop unity8-session[2307]: /usr/bin/unity8-session: line 79: kill: (2350) - No such process … iun 29 17:15:41 pixel-desktop systemd[2062]: Started Unity Shell v8.
 remember to select the unity8 on wayland one
 oh :D
 on wayland?
 @dohbee, the logind session is called that, it does not use or run on wayland
 Was logind support merged into mir? ^.;
 [Edit] Was logind support merged into mir? ^.^
 lol wut
 @vanyasem, yup
 @popescu_sorin, you can also use any DM i use the one comming with kubuntu
 @mariogrip, Sddm?
 jep that one
 I use it on my nexus 5x
 @mariogrip, but i don't see the unity8 wayland session, i have plasma (wayland), plasma (x11) and unity8
 so there is only one unity8 session
 and it bounces back to lightdm
 @popescu_sorin, looks like a bug in the session start script
 humm, let me try with lightdm real quick
 @dohbee, humm yeah looking at it  line 75: [: !=: unary operator expected
 cat /usr/bin/lightdm-unity8-session … #!/bin/sh  … # -*- Mode: sh; indent-tabs-mode: nil; tab-width: 2 -*- … # TODO: The following block is to work around the OOBE wizard for the phone. … #       See LP: #1435877. … # From mterry: This should be removed, I think; I believe our wizard should run … #              for the user ev
[14:25] <ubptgbot> en on the desktop (it does in snappy, and … #              should on classic too).  But I'm writing this late in the … #              zesty cycle and don't want to change anything now. … if [ ! -f $HOME/.config/ubuntu-system-settings/wizard-has-run ]; then …   mkdir -p $HOME/.config/ubuntu-system-settings …   touch $HOME/.config/ubuntu-system-setti
[14:25] <ubptgbot> ngs/wizard-has-run … fi … systemctl —user import-environment … systemctl —user set-environment MIR_SERVER_VT=$XDG_VTNR … dbus-update-activation-environment —systemd QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland … dbus-update-activation-environment —systemd UBUNTU_PLATFORM_API_BACKEND=desktop_mirclient … /usr/lib/gnome-session/run-systemd-session unity8.service … dbus-up
[14:25] <ubptgbot> date-activation-environment —systemd QT_QPA_PLATFORM= … dbus-update-activation-environment —systemd UBUNTU_PLATFORM_API_BACKEND= … exit 0
 (Please don't paste long content in telegram)
 k
 (Deleting it doesn't help IRC has already been damaged)
 :P
 :))
 sorry IRC
 speaking of IRC, is the matrix bridge broken? someone was saying there was some discussion in matrix earlier, but it wasn't appearing in here
[14:28] <bshah> matrix ubports channel and #ubports on freenode is not linked
[14:28] <bshah> neither is telegram and ubports on matrix
 we should do what we do in halium just link irc and it will use this irc bridge to bridge over
[14:29] <bshah> yep
 That's what it already does
 @mariogrip, i did manage to start the session
 You can join... #freenode_#ubports:matrix.org, I think
 from tty
 But the Matrix-IRC bridge has been down more and more recently
 QT_QPA_PLATFORM=mirserver unity8
 @popescu_sorin, but this doesn't start the session, because it's not systemd running it, and thus the other systemd jobs which depend on the unity8 job
 don't know what it does but it loads unity8 X-)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/Msj0aRgG.png
 Wooo! :D
 but still not the correct thouhg
 could you try creating ~/.unity8 folder just to see if it's my fault
 why add new "SCALE" thing though?
 @mariogrip, yep
 uuu c/p works now
 so it was my fault :P ok will fix that
 @mariogrip, so, still nope :D bounces back to login screen
 ok so it was not much fault
 :D
 same
 iun 29 17:42:18 pixel-desktop systemd[2046]: Starting Unity Shell v8... … iun 29 17:42:20 pixel-desktop unity8-session[2290]: [2018-06-29:17:42:20.408] Failed to create display (No such file or directory) … iun 29 17:42:20 pixel-desktop unity8-session[2290]: /usr/bin/unity8-session: line 75: [: !=: unary operator expected … iu
[14:45] <ubptgbot> n 29 17:42:20 pixel-desktop unity8-session[2290]: /usr/bin/unity8-session: line 79: kill: (2355) - No such process … iun 29 17:42:20 pixel-desktop systemd[2046]: Started Unity Shell v8.
 cat -n /usr/bin/unity8-session | grep -e 75 -e 79 …     75  while [ $(ps —no-headers -o state $child) != "T" ]; do …     79  kill -CONT $child
 but what does it mean o_O
 Send SIGCONTINUE to all children
 well the while loop is broken
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/jcVyw9GY.webp
 hey look a usb "monitor" https://www.amazon.com/Logic-Controls-Pole-Display-LV4000U/dp/B00BRF7V68
 oops was gonna ask if that works with the driver i found on uphone ohw well
 If you have a technical question related to your UBports device, ask it. You don't need to link Amazon. Thank you :)
 So this is weird... Click is magically doing what it's supposed to on my FP2 now.
 upgraded from xenial and picking the correct version of preinstalled versus old updates?
 And the open store running is the xenial version even though the vivid version is out in /opt/
 Not sure if a bug or not. Whenever I try to open a file within an app (example kiwix)  or try to import my own wallpaper, I don't have file manager as an option. (16.04)
 @AlexanderPlaza, Yes it's a known bug.
 File manager is not showing up anywhere. So you cannot open files or attach anything
 because it's a deb i guess
 Alright, yep
 Clicks are okay now
 @mariogrip weird.. so i had the same problem with egmde session + lightdm, changed to gdm3 and now the session loads. you are using sddm, right? maybe it's something wrong with lighdm? :/
 @UniversalSuperBox, Took you a while
 @rupansh, Need to test thoroughly
 Also, what?
 You had the problem since 22 or something rihgt?
 I've had two sessions actually working on it
 But if you feel that it was too slow, I'd always appreciate more contributors
 @rupansh, how rude.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Aye didn't mean it in a bad way
 Just wanted to ask the root cause and how you fixed nothing else
 Well, it was definitely broke before but now it isn't
 No one touched it
 Oxford comma is a friend, too
 It was always supposed to work like this, but before it didn't
 And now it did
 [Edit] And now it does
 *thinking low-res sticker*
 Was it a DT problem or Ubports problem?
 @UniversalSuperBox, magic
 It's possible that something rebuilt somewhere else, but that seems unlikely
 Rebuilt somewhere else and fixed it*
 @popescu_sorin, humm, yeah maybe it is
 (Sticker, 336x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Qykx0N5A.webp
 well it could be a race condition
 wouldn't be the first one in that code :)
 I thought you were kinda joking when you said "rewrite it in C++"
 But now I understand
 it's writting in vala, thats a big problem
 @mariogrip, Whats vala though OOP+C?
 no
 it is vala, which is transpiled to C
 Then
 wew
 it's a very nice way to write gtk+/glib apps
 I see. Sounds pretty interesting
 or a simplistic library that's only accessed via introspection
 Really weird for a primarily Qt OS to have picked it up
 But it probably made it easier to make the PackageKit plugin
 it wasn't primarily qt when it was written
 Oh yeah
 click scope was originally written in vala too, for example
 yeah, vala was a reasonable choice for click for several reasons, at that time
 it just never got rewritten, and the replacement plan was "ubuntu personal" based on snaps
 but that's all over now
 @mariogrip changed back to lightdm and now the egdme session starts x-) . i'll take a break now
 Aha, click is broken on the Nexus 5
 So yeah
 #RodeyWasProbablyRight
 @dohbee, Mmm Ubuntu Phone using snaps, that would have been cool
 @AlexanderPlaza, tada.. snaps on ubuntu touch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHE5THEWq7c
 i was able to install / remove snaps, there were also some snaps apps like terminal, calendar etc
 but only managed to run the hello world (cli) snap
 Published on Feb 12, 2017
 @mariogrip changed to sddm, same thing (bounce back to sddm) so it's probably something else wrong, maybe it's my install
 oh well
 @popescu_sorin, so it just sometimes work, or did it not work at all?
 didn't work at all from the greeter (lightdm or sddm)
 the only way to start unity8 is to jump to a TTY and type "https://t.me/ubports/137600"
 [Edit] the only way to start unity8 is to jump to a TTY and type "QT_QPA_PLATFORM=mirserver unity8"
 maybe try `apt install --reinstall unity8 unity8-desktop-session`
 let's see :D
 ah! i think i found the issue! i just did that on my laptop
 still nope :D same as before
 i'll take a break for now :D hopefully other ppl will try the session
 @popescu_sorin I just fixed it :D
 apt update and upgrade and magic
 @mariogrip muhahaha iz works!
 but there is still something strange, it didn't the first time, i had to login twice
 YAY :D
 first time bounched to sddm and second time worked :DDDDD
 \o/
 @popescu_sorin, yeah it's still a bit buggy. but now that we got logind support we can start working on making it more stable :D
 yeah :D stable is nice
 😃👍
 @popescu_sorin, happened the same for me
 is it just me or is the scroll wheel inverted?
 when i scroll up it scrolls down, i've seen the same thing with egdme
 hmm nautilu is not working for me after logging out back to gnome 18.04
 o_O
 its not opening anymore lol
 restart
 yup now it works again
 but yeah, unity8 works now fine again :)
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/0linYad6.png
 ew nautilus
 :))
 Dolphin ftw
 @malditobastardo btw telegram works on unity8
 TG Desktop 1.3 is not showing up for me in the scopes
 i'm pretty sure it's still using xmir for stuff
 but yes, It used to work
 @malditobastardo, are you using snap?
 No no, normal one from the Sotware ctr
 oh, weird
 Yes because its like @popescu_sorin said, it used to work before, at least for me now its not working
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/6P8nECKr.png
 Why must you all tempt me so
 telegram, solitaire (gtk3) and kate (qt5)
 I've got work to do, I can't be installing Ubuntu 18.04 right now. :P
 :))
 @UniversalSuperBox, you can do it in background in a VM :P
 naaah
 I'm a bare metal kinda guy
 (Also that'd take seven years to download)
 @popescu_sorin, Any doc to install and test unity 8 on 18.04 ?
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/AEBl97fH.png
 Gotta tests lots of devices
 (Not pictured: The FP2 which just started up)
 @Ern_st, yep, here you go https://github.com/ubports/unity8-desktop-install-tools
 you just need to run the script and it will install a unity8-session
 and then from the login screen select unity8
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/P5UOh11U.png
 I think I have a problem
 @UniversalSuperBox, Only one has openstore at the top left hand corner?
 @AlexanderPlaza, You only get that when you have enough horizontal real estate
 Phones do not
 @popescu_sorin, Thanks
 Oh, interesting. Either click or system-image-upgrader removes old versions of apps if a deeper database contains a newer version
 system-image doesn't touch clicks
 I guess it's click then
 Hello to everyone
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/x50OLIrb.mp4
 Thank you
 I have a log file. Could you tell me why the error is? I am using samsung j5 (j5lte).
 I am curious about the solution
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/SGpz44cz.null
 samsung j5 is not a supported device
 why would you even attempt to install UT on it
 Because it's not terribly obvious why devices are or aren't supported to someone familiar with the common Linux "Install anywhere" idea
 It's a memory problem. what should I do?. also the only phone to eliminate :)
 Are you installing your own port or...?
 port :(
 but I could not zip it.
 Correct
 Well
 How am I going to get zipped?
 There is no way to do that, since Halium isn't distributed as a zip ever. You'll probably want to use this alternative installation method: http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/install-build/reference-rootfs.html#install-rootfs-and-system-img-alternative-method
 Replace `-p halium` with `-p ut`
 I am doing it with sailfish os. that command does not work.
 What are you doing with sailfish OS
 I'm going from his source.
 That's... probably not going to work?
 But you'll still need to use tha script to install
 systemimage not build.
 ninja: error: '/home/enes/hadk/out/target/product/j5lte/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libOpenSLES_intermediates/export_includes', needed by '/home/enes/hadk/out/target/product/j5lte/obj/EXECUTABLES/bootanimation_intermediates/import_includes', missing and no known rule to make it … make: *** [ninja_wrapper] Error 1
 @popescu_sorin, Does it break something else ?
 @ankaos, Please join @halium and direct questions there for porting it to a new device.
 ok
 @Ern_st, No :)