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oerhekssudo apt install gnome-shell-extensions # and reboot00:04
oerheksbrb00:04
brendantcchi00:05
FurretUberIt didn't work, I'll ask there00:06
brendantcchow do i install Ubuntu 18.04 on VirtualBox for Windows?00:08
brendantccwhoa... over 1000 people on this channel!00:09
leftyfbbrendantcc: just like any OS in VB on Windows00:19
brendantcci meant what specs i punch in00:20
xamithanspecs?00:21
qwebirc1063idk, still not able to add00:21
xamithanWhatever you require for your use case00:21
brendantccram, etc..00:21
leftyfbbrendantcc: you'll have to read the documentation for Virtualbox or look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements for ubuntu minimum requirements00:26
leftyfbor not00:26
Battleleftyfb: i managed to somewhat fix (I think..) the issue with apt00:27
Battleso i was googling the grub issue and stumboled across someone having same kinda issue as me, he edited the file:  /var/lib/dpkg/status to remove the offending packages, and ran apt upgrade e.t.c after that00:28
Battlei folowed this and it now apt updates/upgrades without any errors or issues00:28
Battlei dont think those kernels were actually installed, i think it broke during install...because there's nothing in /boot relating to the -45 kernel00:29
Battleonly my -4300:29
leftyfbBattle: you should still try to install the hwe kernel00:29
qwebirc1063alright I got applets now. Thanks guys00:29
leftyfb4.1500:29
Battlewhat was that full package name again?00:30
leftyfbqwebirc1063: it was only a google search away00:30
leftyfbBattle: linux-image-generic-hwe-16.0400:30
Battlethanks, is there any reason i should install that specific kernel?I only ask because i currently use and run qemu for other things and id ont want to break that by changing kernels entirely ?00:30
Battle(if thats even possible?)00:31
leftyfbBattle: it's the latest and will always upgrade to the latest00:31
Battleah00:31
leftyfb!hwe | Battle00:31
ubottuBattle: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack00:31
nemesisany1 get diablo 3 to successfully work with continued crashing for one reason or another00:31
leftyfbnemesis: try #wine00:32
Battleah i see00:32
leftyfbhm, maybe not00:32
Battlealso is it normal for this to be telling me to autoremove busybox-static extlinux genisoimage hfsplus libhfsp0 libhivex0 libllvm5.0 libllvm5.0:i386 libplymouth4 lsscsi mtools plymouth plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text scrub supermin syslinux syslinux-common zerofree00:32
leftyfbBattle: reinstall cryptsetup00:32
leftyfbnemesis: /join #winehq00:33
Battledo i need cryptsetup?00:33
nemesissweet thanks00:33
Battlei remember it asking me if i wanted to have an encrypted user or something and i said no00:33
leftyfbBattle: not unless you're encrypting, but it being a dependency of those other packages, I would just leave it00:33
Battleah00:34
Battleleave ti as in install cryptsetup to keep thos epackages? or leave it and remove the unneeded depeneds?00:34
Battleit*00:34
leftyfbreinstall cryptsetup00:34
Battleoh dear, seems we're nto out of the woods00:36
Battle2lost connection ><00:37
Battle2oh dear, seems we're nto out of the woods00:37
Battle2grub-probe: error: disk `mduuid/4351570248a139c2fdf813affcbca916' not found.00:37
Battle2when installing that kernel you mentioned00:37
Battle2some google results suggested restarting the system could resolve that issue....at the same time, restarting could make the system not boot....so im gonna backup the whole server00:38
Battle2and see what happenes when i restart....00:38
Battle2lol00:38
oerhekscat /proc/mdstat or mdadm --examine --scan00:52
oerheksfunny disk failure?00:53
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mattfly i Have KDE and mate, spyder IDE launches with a dark not eye killing theme under kde, but with dying white on mate envoriment01:36
mattflyhow can I use the dark theme on the mate envoriment too?01:36
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leftyfbmattfly: it's not exactly the answer you're looking for, but you might be interested in also installing redshift01:40
mattflyhm let me google01:40
guivercmattfly: this may help https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/issues/726901:41
mattflybut any qt application on the mate DE is getting a dark theme01:42
mattflyi just wanted the one from kde to be in there01:42
mattflysince im using the black mate the gtk windows work fine01:42
guivercmattfly: spyder is a Qt app (thus uses the Qt/KDE settings) as i understand it.  If using a recent MATE you'll be using GTK+3 where is spyder uses GTK+2 (from that post; I'm no expert)01:44
mattflyno01:44
mattflywait mate is not using qt at all?01:45
guivercolder mate is GTK+2; being recently upgraded to use GTK+301:45
mattflybut the app is a qt app01:45
mattflyits not written in gtk in any way01:45
mattflyit is having a white  theme on mate and dark on kde01:45
mattflyexactly the same application01:46
guiverccorrect; but the stuff going to screen usually uses gtk+; what Ubuntu are you using (how much gtk+2, gtk+3 in your mate?)01:46
mattfly18.0401:46
mattflygtk3 i guess01:47
guivercokay - you're all GTK+3 I think  - with gtk+ support (for visually neatness only)01:47
guiverc(sorry gtk+2 support for visual neatness only)01:47
mattflyi cant make it use a darker theme for qt applications?01:48
guiverci can't help sorry mattfly (my knowledge isn't enough; yeah I misread that post!), maybe try #ubuntu-mate or the https://ubuntu-mate.community/  or here later?01:50
mattflyi found this https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/05/get-qt5-apps-to-use-native-gtk-style-in.html01:50
mattflyokay thanks01:50
guivercsure looks like it's the issue mattfly01:50
guivercand that looks (to me) like it'd work (if that's the issue) well done mattfly01:51
oerhekssounds like the same as that github discussion,  QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk201:52
mattflyyes! if i set this variable before launching an application it works01:53
guiverc:)01:54
mattflyhuh, i set export QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2 on my .profile and it doesnt work by default01:54
RandolfI'm trying to get my TrueCrypt volume mounted in Ubuntu Linux.  It mounts, but only in read-only mode.  What do I have to do to get it mounted in read-write mode?  Thanks.02:00
RandolfOr is NTFS support only available in Linux in read-only form?02:05
leftyfbRandolf: truecrypt is deprecated and unsupported by anyone02:07
RandolfI know that.02:07
leftyfbRandolf: so copy what you need from it onto something else and delete it for good02:07
RandolfWhat encryption solutions are available now?02:07
RandolfI need something that can work on Linux and Windows.02:08
leftyfbthere isn't one02:09
RandolfThat's terrible.02:09
RandolfNot Linux' fault.02:09
leftyfbother than maybe GPG02:09
leftyfbbut that's per file02:09
RandolfYeah, I need a file system.02:09
RandolfTrueCrypt was a fantastic implementation.02:09
RandolfI was so happy to find it in apt.02:10
RandolfSorry, not in apt, but in Linux form.02:10
leftyfbit's ensecure, as in, completely useless02:10
leftyfbinsecure*02:10
RandolfActually, it passed the security audit.02:11
leftyfbRandolf: no, it's insecure, discontinued and unsupported by anyone02:12
leftyfbRandolf: https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-veracrypt-ubuntu-16-04-16-10   took a minute of googline02:13
leftyfbdamn typing02:13
leftyfbgoogling*02:13
oerhekstry bing sometime02:14
leftyfbno thanks02:14
leftyfbI'm pretty sure, bing does all the same data mining that google does that makes people refuse to use google. If I'm going to choose, I'll choose the one that gives me the best results02:16
Mibixjeez trying to pull data off this old busted ass drive is slowing down everything haha02:33
RandolfAs I recall, "bing" is the Chinese word for soldier.02:36
Randolfleftyfb:  Oh, VeraCrypt has been updated it seems.  The last time I looked at it they didn't even have anything to download.02:38
amosbirdHello02:55
amosbirdhow can I make all users be able to "sudo -H pip" ?02:55
naccamosbird: `man sudoers` ?03:00
oerhekssudo and pip, try to avoid that, an user can safely install in their environment03:03
naccoh sorry, i read that as switching to the pip user03:08
oerheksthat would need an extra -U i think03:11
naccoerheks: ah right03:12
amosbirdok, thanks03:26
IceHard#opennic03:37
SurreHi. I'm getting this error "Restarting tinyproxy (via systemctl): tinyproxy.serviceJob for tinyproxy.service failed because the service did not take the steps required by its unit configuration."04:00
Surrerunning this: /etc/init.d/tinyproxy restart04:01
SurreAny idea?04:01
ZaZaQRhi04:03
NoCodewhen trying to connect to my bluetooth adapter I get, "Connection Failed: blueman.bluez.errors.DBusFailedError: Input/output error.." How can I fix this?04:18
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ed105hello #ubuntu. So I want to give another user (I don't have access to their machine) ssh access to my server, using keys. It looks like what I need to do is set up an rsa key pair, put public key into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and send the private key. Is this correct?05:29
Tm_Ted105: no, you never send private key05:32
ed105Tm_T: so how can I do it for another party without them being involved?05:32
Tm_Ted105: oh, actually that way, could this other user create the key and send you the public part?05:32
Tm_Ted105: worst case option sure would be you creating the keypair, I just cringe on idea of sharing private key (:05:33
ed105Tm_T: they aren't very tech save and I am trying to avoid explaining what and how to do05:33
Sleakered105: generally, they create a key and send you the publickey.05:33
Sleakerif they aren't tech savvy enough to create a key they probably aren't tech savvy enough to handle a key being sent to them without compromising it.05:34
ed105Tm_T: so my plan was to do what I've described. But once you confirm that technically this will wokr, my next question was -- what are the implications of me emailing private key05:34
ed105Sleaker: good point actually05:34
Sleakered105: creating a key is very very simple.05:35
Tm_Ted105: anyone who has that key can access your machine05:35
Tm_Ted105: but yes, technically that's how it works05:35
SleakerI'd think it would be more difficult to try and copy it int othe right directory and setup the permission properly so ssh will actually use it by default, etc.05:35
lotuspsychjeed105: emailing passwords is usually a bad idea too05:35
Sleakereven better, set it up from their system yourself?05:36
Sleaker:D05:36
ed105right, you both are correct. I guess the easiest thing for me would be to actually type an email explaining "ssh-keygen -t rsa"05:36
ed105well, i wish I could, I don't have an account there05:36
Tm_Ted105: added benefit, more likely the file rights end up being correct05:37
ed105here is another question -- how can I make it so that they can't login at all? (all I need them to do is dump some files onto my system over scp). Will creating an account with nologin shell work?05:38
ed105better question: can account with /sbin/nologin shell be used to scp files?05:39
Sleakered105: no05:39
ed105any idea how to do this?05:39
Sleakeryou need a basic shell that allows atleast the minimum scp commands there are shells that provide only those facilities05:39
Sleakera quick google returned that rssh and scponly would do this05:40
ed105rssh and scponly -- thanks, that's enough pointer. Never heard of these things :(05:41
tomreyned105: if you dont want to install extra software (rssh / scponly), you can configure an sftp only chroot using just openssh itself https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP_chroot05:49
ed105tomreyn: scponly looks like a good solution. Any reason not to use it? (may be not secure, known for vulnerabilities?)05:50
tomreynsftp clients are ubiquous, also across different OS (e.g. winscp, cyberduck).05:50
tomreyn!info scponly 16.0405:51
ubottu'16.04' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-05:51
tomreyn!info scponly xenial05:51
ubottuPackage scponly does not exist in xenial05:51
tomreyned105: this, it's not an official package - you can install it from elsewhere, but you wont benefit from automatic or semi automatic security patches.05:52
ed105well, I am cheating a little here, scponly is available in centos (which is what I am using). I am here on #ubuntu because this is an awesome channel with great people05:53
tomreyn...which supports ubuntu only05:53
ed105my question wasn't any distro specific really05:54
ed105#openssh and ##linux were of 0 help, unlike you guys05:54
tomreynthose who decide to spend their time on supporting people here usually do so because they want to support people using ubuntu specifically. you should respect this.05:55
ed105do you feel disrespected?05:56
ed105I use ubuntu on my personal machines if this helps...05:56
tomreynyes, i think this is disrespectful. if you're asking about another OS, you should be stating this at the same time you ask your question, which will result in you being told you're off-topic, since you are.05:58
ed105but I want asking "about another OS"...05:59
ed105I apologize personally to you, if I offended you05:59
ed105*but I want asking = but I wasn't asking06:00
ed105tomreyn: I think you should really read this channel's guidelines and code of conduct (which I just did out of curiosity) and stop being so fragile. Thanks for help anyways!06:14
tomreyned105: i'm not "fragile", claiming i seems derogative to me. by requesting support with your centos system here on #ubuntu (topic: "ubuntu support channel") and in addition to doing so on other channels (and not actually indicating this) here you violated the cross posting guideline. as you can probably tell by now, i read the guidelines.06:22
tomreyned105: since this discussion is also off topic here, we can move it to ubuntu-offtopic if you like06:22
rushchecking for updates  'failed to download repository information'06:40
rushplease advise06:40
tomreynrush: please run this on a terminal: sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999906:43
tomreynthen report the http address returned06:43
rushnothing06:45
rushmaybe i typed it wrong06:45
rushcant copy and paste in here.... teally silly06:46
rushr06:46
rush nc [-46CDdFhklNnrStUuvZz] [-I length] [-i interval] [-M ttl]06:46
rush  [-m minttl] [-O length] [-P proxy_username] [-p source_port]06:46
rush  [-q seconds] [-s source] [-T keyword] [-V rtable] [-W recvlimit] [-w timeout]06:46
rush  [-X proxy_protocol] [-x proxy_address[:port]]   [destination06:46
tomreyn!paste | rush06:46
ubotturush: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:46
tomreyn!pastebinit06:46
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit06:46
rushi mean, i cant copy texts here.. so i have to type codes06:46
rushand sometimes get them wrong06:46
rushits a bad desing on hexchat06:47
tomreynctrl-c and ctrl-v work for me06:47
tomreynusing hexchat also06:47
tomreynon a temrin you may need to use them with shit06:47
rushnot me06:47
tomreyn*shiFt :)06:47
tomreynon a terminal you may need to use them with shift06:47
rushi get no option to copy when i right click the text in here06:47
tomreynalso middle mouse button should work06:48
rushahh.. good06:48
rushmiddle mouse worked06:48
rushthanks06:48
tomreynright, you just makr it, then press ctrl-c to copy to clipboard06:48
rushhttp://termbin.com/a7d206:49
tomreynwhat's the one-line output of "lsb_release -ds"?06:50
rushUbuntu 18.04 LTS06:50
tomreynthen why do you use some apt sources for ubuntu 16.10 on it?06:50
rushhmm?06:50
rushi dont evne understand the wuestion06:51
tomreynhttp://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/antonbatenev:/tox/xUbuntu_16.10  Release06:51
rush?06:51
tomreynis, based on its name, an apt package repository for (x)ubuntu 16.1006:51
tomreynit is configured and active on your system06:51
rushwhat should i do?06:51
rushmaybe cos i had help installing sum stuff, maybe they had to use that method, i dunno06:52
tomreynrush: either disable it, or replace it by one which matches the ubuntu version you are running, and which is actually available (this one isn't, probably because ubuntu 16.10 has reached end of life a good while ago)06:52
rushwill it upset any programs i have installed tho?06:53
rushmaybe some wont work on the new one06:53
tomreynyou can disable PPAs and third party software repositories using software-properties-gtk06:54
tomreynit's called "Software & Updates" on the menu06:54
rushi think i enabled it cos it wa sadvised to enable it ?06:55
rushi use third party stuf i think06:55
tomreynrush: well maybe it worked back then, but it no longer exists now06:55
tomreynand will just throw errors06:55
rushwhat should i do06:55
guiverc_drush, removing a 16.10 repo generally means you won't get updates from it, but given 16.10 (2016.october) release reached EOL mid-2017 there are buckley's (near 0) chance of it getting updates; but your choice06:55
rushok06:56
rushhow do i do it please06:56
tomreynit is also non-existing on the remote server, so there is definitely no use in keeping it06:56
tomreyn<tomreyn> you can disable PPAs and third party software repositories using software-properties-gtk06:56
tomreyn<tomreyn> it's called "Software & Updates" on the menu06:56
rushok, opened it06:57
tomreynrush: does this not help?06:57
rushno what06:57
tomreynwhat do you mean by "no what"?06:57
rushnow what06:57
rushi opened software and updates06:57
tomreynclick on the "other software" tab06:58
rushok06:58
tomreynthen look for "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/antonbatenev:/tox/xUbuntu_16.10  Release"06:58
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tomreynselect it, then click on "remove" on the bottom06:59
rushi did it06:59
rushdo i have to add 18 now ?06:59
tomreyndepoends on whether you want / need to continue using this third party repository, i guess06:59
rushi might need to07:00
rushas i have third party software i think07:00
rushwhat shall i do now ?07:00
tomreynit doesn't seem to provide any packages for any distributions anymore07:00
tomreynso i guess you dont want to07:00
rushi dont know07:01
hackerman__Hey there, I'm having a hard time figuring out what's causing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS shutdown to not work properly. When I try shutting down/rebooting from the GUI or the power button, which is set to "interactive shutdown", nothing happens. "systemctl poweroff" works fine from terminal07:01
tomreynyou have another third party repository setup which is also broken and should be replaced or removed.07:01
rushoh07:01
hackerman__Any ideas? I already tried to fsck the disk from recovery mode.07:01
tomreynrush: ^ that's https://pkg.tox.chat/debian stable Release'07:01
tomreynrush: i suggest you remove both, then we can look into alternatives.07:02
rushi removed 1607:02
rushso now remove debian also07:02
rushthats both right?07:02
rushmy os seems to be working strange now07:04
tomreynrush: you remove those two 3rd oparty repositories i pointed out, that's right.07:04
tomreynrush: tox is available from ubuntu's own repositories, version 25.0 for bionic07:04
rushnooo07:04
rushit doesnt work well07:04
tomreyn!info tox bionic07:04
ubottutox (source: tox): virtualenv-based automation of test activities. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0-1 (bionic), package size 145 kB, installed size 1288 kB07:04
rushi had to talk to the devs at tox for a long time.. they helped me install it07:04
rushthey thanked me cos i helped them find a bug07:05
rushso now tox wont work cos i uninstalled them things?07:05
tomreynrush: if you had packages installed from those repositories then they're still present, in those probably very outdated versions.07:06
rushits gone weird now anyway.. mouse clicks and movements when i dont do anytihng07:06
rushtox does not work properly07:06
rushmaybe they used the old  stuff go get it to work07:06
rushi dont know07:06
rushit was the devs who got it working for me07:06
tomreynrush: noe of what we just did would have changed how tox or your mouse behaves07:06
rushi will restart, see if stuff still works07:07
rushbrb07:07
tomreynhackerman__: do you have acpid installed?07:08
tomreyndpkg -l acpid07:08
tomreynthe line listing 'acpid' should start with 'ii'07:09
hackerman__tomreyn: it does07:09
rushstill seems to be ok07:09
rushdo i need to add anytihng new?  or just leave it like this?07:10
tomreynrush: if you plan to continue using tox, you should probably wither up-/downgrade to the version in ubuntu, or add a supported third party repository.07:10
rushwhats wither up?07:11
rushtox still seems to work, just tested it07:11
tomreynhackerman__: i guess i'd review syslog and dmesg then after triggering the non-working shutdown form the GUI07:11
tomreynrush: typo, i mean "either"07:12
rushhackerman.. the best damn hacker in the world07:12
rushhmm07:12
rushwell, if it still works now.. maybe its ok ?07:12
tomreynrush: can you show this: "apt-cache policy tox | pastebinit"07:12
hackerman__tomreyn: dmesg outputs nothing at all.07:13
tomreynhackerman__: are you saying the 'dmesg' command produces no output on your system?07:13
rushInstalled: (none)07:14
rush  Candidate: 2.5.0-107:14
rush  Version table:07:14
rush     2.5.0-1 50007:14
rush        500 http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 Packages07:14
rush        500 http://lk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe i386 Packages07:14
hackerman__tomreyn: no, I'm saying, that after triggering the gui shutdown button, dmesg and /var/log/syslog don't output any new info07:14
lotuspsychje!paste | rush07:14
ubotturush: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:14
Gegsitehello07:15
tomreynrush: actually the "tox" package in ubuntu is a different software.07:15
tomreynrush: please read what ubottu told you there (it told you this before)07:15
rush?07:15
rushpastebin07:16
rushok07:16
rushhttps://pastebin.com/ggbeShZj07:16
tomreynhackerman__: ok, check syslog then? maybe Xorg.0.log, too, and ~/.xsession-errors07:16
GegsiteSo I had trouble with the suspend in the last 1 week, It has a black screen after starting from suspend. So I changed my nvidia 390, to X.org server - nouveau , and it is a little change. I can see after power up from suspend the screen about 2 sec and then also goes to black...07:18
tomreynrush: what'S the output of: dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which tox)) 2>&1 | pastebinit07:18
hackerman__tomreyn: nothing new from those 3 either.07:18
rusherror07:19
rushdid u giv ecorrrect command?07:19
tomreynhackerman__: okay, i don't have a better suggestion, then, i'm afraid. you could try creating a new user account, login to that and see whether it works there. this would allow to find out whether it's specific to your user account or generic.07:19
msev-Is there anyway to emulate a mouse button press inside the search field of gnome shell when i press the "windows key"/invoke the search...because if I just start typing it writes the first letter a lot of time (and its not a problem with bouncing of keys on keyboard since in other apps it doesnt do that)07:19
rushhttps://pastebin.com/REfavfPb07:20
MonsieurBonIs it a problem to run a docker container with ubuntu:18.04 on older infrastructure (eg. 16.04 oder 14.04)?07:20
tomreynrush: okay, hoiw do you start tox currently?07:20
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: we normally advice not to mix package versions over ubuntu versions07:20
rushsearc hfor it in the menu and press the icon07:20
rushits running now.. seems ok07:21
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: unless your physical machine runs another ubuntu version on a virtual machine?07:21
hackerman__tomreyn: I haven't really encountered anything like this either. A few days ago, everything was working fine. The only thing I changed was installing albert launcher. But I'm not sure how that software can be related to this problem07:21
tomreynrush: the issue there is you have no upgrade path. you may very well be running an outdated tox client with known security vulnerabilities07:22
MonsieurBonlotuspsychje, nope, physical machine is 16.04 or 14.04 and runs docker directly07:22
rushdid we remove the update path?07:22
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: perhaps search for a snap version, more up to dated(latest)?07:22
tomreynrush: can you find out which version you are running, and what the client is actually called? there are multiple, none of which is called "tox": https://tox.chat/clients.html07:23
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: this way you could run docker on xenial with higher version for example07:23
tomreynrush: you did not have an upgrade path before we started working on this. your third party apt repositories were both broken.07:23
rushqtox07:24
tomreynrush: version?07:24
rushand the devs spend a few hours with me... cos it doesnt work in ubuntu 1807:24
rushthey said i helped them find a bug07:24
rushthey just gave me a few lines to paste, and it installed ok07:24
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: snap find docker: docker          17.06.2-ce07:24
tomreynrush: okay, then talk to the devs again, i guess.07:24
rushdi o need t opreplac any of the things i deleted now?07:25
rushneed to replace?07:25
Gegsitelotuspsychje, :D so I did change to x.rog from nvidia, and I can now see 2 sec from coming back from suspend but then it goes to black, and only hardreset works, tho numlock is swithing the led07:25
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: see also !pinning or !backports07:25
MonsieurBonlotuspsychje, or we'll just stick with ubuntu:14.04 and ubuntu:16.04 as base images. They are our own containers, so there's no pressure to upgrade07:26
rushwe deleted 16, and debian or something.   do i need to replace them?07:26
tomreynrush: again, the apt repositories you had configured, and which i guided you to remove, were broken,. they served no value other than creating errors. what will improve your situation is to ensure that your system can get updates of this software. this is not currently the case, for all we know.07:27
rushapart from the qtox issue, everything is good?07:27
rushi also thought you said we have to replce the deleted ones with something, or add somethin else07:28
MonsieurBonlotuspsychje, oh, I might have misunderstood you. I'm not concerned with the version of docker. We are fine running the older docker versions on our 14.04 and 16.04 servers. I was only wondering, whether we could already upgrade our docker images to be based on ubuntu:18.04.07:30
tomreynrush: yes, i said this, but when i did i just meant that you should ensure you have an update / upgrade path for tox. you don't now. but your ubuntu should be fine (or as fine as before, minus the broken PPAs).07:31
rushthanks07:32
lotuspsychje!latest | MonsieurBon07:32
ubottuMonsieurBon: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.07:32
rushi checked for updatesm it said ther eare no updates, but good news is i got no error07:32
lotuspsychjeMonsieurBon: look into backports07:32
ducasseMonsieurBon: as far as i know, that should be fine07:32
tomreynrush: so i suggest you /join #qtox and ask about how to install it on ubuntu 18.04.07:32
rushit is installed..  i will just check if it needs updates07:33
rushthanks07:33
tomreynrush: there is one more issue on your system that we came across, which is the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:33
rushyea.. it keeps apprearing07:33
Gegsitehmm lotuspsychje , now I tried again and now it is working fine (x.org)07:34
MonsieurBonlotuspsychje, I'm not trying to run a newer docker version than is available in the repositories :-)07:34
tomreynrush: it is an apt configuration file which is currently being ignore since its filename is unexpected. you can either just remove it or try to find out what its purpose may have been.07:34
GegsiteI will leave this as it now. But there is something to be fix with nvidia drivers and the latest 18.04 updates, on suspend07:35
tomreynrush: would you like to do one or the other, or neither?07:35
rushnot sure whats best07:35
MonsieurBonducasse, Ok thx. We'll give it a go then07:35
tomreynrush: what's best depends on your preferences, i can't decide this for you. investigating its original purpose may take some time, but might help you understand why something never worked for you. just removing it will ensure these warnings about the file will be gone, but you wont loose any functionality you have now. and ignoring it saves the most time, but won't remove the warnings.07:37
Gegsitehere is the log with working xorg suspend. lotuspsychje  https://pastebin.com/gjj0Ab3B07:37
rushwell. maybe it came from previous failed attemps at installing tox.. i was pastign many tihngs that never worked07:38
rushother thant that ive been mainly installing from the softwre center i think07:38
tomreynrush: if you want to know better you can put it on the pastebin and we can look at it: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:39
rushpermision denied it said07:39
tomreyn"sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee | pastebinit" then, or just look at it yourself using "sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee"07:40
tomreynrush: if you'll decide you dont need it, you can remove it using: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:41
rushwell, it asked for my password, but displayed nothing after07:41
tomreynrush: so it's an empty file, you can verify this using : sudo du /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:43
tomreynthis will return the file size in bytes. if it's empty, it will be 007:44
tomreynif it's empty then keeping it definitely serves no purpose.07:44
rush0/etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:47
rushyea a zero07:47
rushsorry for the delay.. i have a bad stomach lol07:49
rushhad to keep going to the john07:49
EriC^maybe it was a typo since tee is a command07:52
tomreynrush: john the ripper, eh? just delete it then: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:53
rushnot sure it worked07:54
rushgot no message one way or another07:54
tomreynthen it worked07:55
tomreynyou can run the du command again and it will report there is no such file07:55
tomreynsudo du /etc/apt/sources.list.d/tee07:55
rushgreat07:56
Skaface82hey im not sure if i should ask here as its an unofficial package, but all of a sudden new programs are opening underneath google chrome, does anyone have any idea how/why that could be happening?07:56
rushthanks for the troubleshooting07:56
lotuspsychjeSkaface82: wich ubuntu version is that, and what happens exactly?07:57
tomreynrush: welcome. here's how you can inspect such things yourself in the future:07:58
tomreyn!terminal | rush07:58
ubotturush: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal07:58
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rushi dont really understand linux, but ubuntu is my favorite.  seems stable, runs well ,and is easier than others to use07:59
rushterminal i dont understand lol07:59
tomreynrush: that's why i just pointed you to a guide which explains how to use it. it's not that hard.07:59
Skaface8218.04, for example i open deluge, i get a little status window pop up the top of the screen saying "Deluge is ready" and it opens in the background under my web browser, so i need to alt-tab to it07:59
lotuspsychjeSkaface82: normal behaviour on ubuntu 18.0408:00
rushwell, pretty hard for me.  ineve rreally wanted to have to learn that stuff. i was told i dont need to, and linux is as eay as windows lol. . but i think not.  having saoid that, i think ubuntu is great when i can get it set up08:00
Skaface82lotuspsychje: really? ive only noticed it happen in the past couple of days08:01
rushbut.. maybe slowly slowly i will learn it08:01
lotuspsychjeSkaface82: you get notifications ontop when the program is not first window08:02
rushi wa salways disgusted with linux lol.. but this time sincei tried it.. im pretty pleased with ubuntu.  actually leaving in my system08:02
tomreynrush: all we did today could also have been done from the graphical interface only, but since we were working on this together, it was bette rusing the temrinal since this allows for easier remote debugging, and you get proper error messages (errors are never 'hidden')08:04
tomreynrush: the good thing about linux is, you can choose freely whether you want to do things on the temrinal on not. and the terminal is very powerful, once you understood the basics.08:05
Skaface82lotuspsychje: oh i worked it out, i have my terminal set to always on top, and the application I opened was overlapping the terminal by a few pixels when it opened so it was pushed to the back08:06
lotuspsychje!yay | Skaface8208:06
ubottuSkaface82: Glad you made it! :-)08:06
rushhmm08:07
rushi will take a loot i think08:07
tomreynyes, loot your terminal08:08
rushlol08:08
pvnMorning, smartd keeps complaining about a failed device, although the device was replaced and is working properly. Is there a way to kind of "reset" smartd [OS debian, "Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS"]?08:13
pvnOr: has anybody observed such a behaviour?08:13
rushwhy do people still use 16 if 18 is available?  not easy to upgrade?  need to do fresh install ?08:14
lotuspsychjepvn: first update your system to .4 please08:14
lotuspsychje!lts | rush08:14
ubotturush: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information.08:14
rushhmm08:14
pvnAs it is LTS, and this is a mission critical system, we do not update the OS release.08:15
pvnBut I'll have a look at .408:15
lotuspsychje!usn | pvn always keep your system up to date08:16
ubottupvn always keep your system up to date: Please see https://usn.ubuntu.com/ for information about recent Ubuntu security updates.08:16
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rushpeople recommend runnjng puppy from a usb.. but im running a full ubuntu and it works really well.   thats impressive08:20
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rushquiet in here08:36
ddoobbIs it possible to update Firefox on an EOL version of ubuntu?08:40
rushwats eol?08:41
ddoobbEnd of life, so a release that's no longer receiving updates08:41
rushohh08:41
rushdont know08:41
rushtry the new ubuntu?,  dseems pretty fast to me08:42
rushor the ELO version..  good band lol08:42
ddoobbI will in the near future but right now I just need to update firefox08:43
rushim not sure how, maybe someone here will know08:43
rushlots of people here08:43
guiverc_dddoobb, EOL releases are off-topic here (unless you need help moving to a supported release), so don't expect a response/answer.08:51
chl_in order to write to syslog, won't a user need the syslog or adm group?09:12
blackflowchl_: /dev/log is writable for everyone09:17
chl_i got an application running with no permissions to write to /var/log/syslog, but for some reason it still does O_O09:17
blackflowchl_: does it write to the file, or does it use system logging facility via /dev/log socket?09:18
blackflowit's highly likely it does the latter. nobody should be writing to syslog directly, then that's not SYSLOG, it's just writing to a file.09:18
chl_I probaly need to dig abit into that09:18
blackflowand when I say syslog I mean /var/log/syslog.  see the confusion there? :)09:18
Rojolahi09:21
RojolaI installed "android-studio" via snap.09:21
memphistoblackflow: sudo lsof /var/log/syslog09:21
chl_blackflow: how can I tell wether it writes to /dev/log or the file directly?09:21
RojolaProblem:  It does not open.09:21
Rojolathere are no errors09:21
Rojolawhat can I do?09:21
blackflowchl_: on unix, system logging services, or syslog, has traditionally been a special daemon. then applications would use special functions to talk to it, via the standard /dev/log socket.09:21
blackflowchl_: that way applications are just concerned with logging, while the daemon is concerned with filtering and storing those logs soemwhere09:22
blackflowmemphisto: yes, the syslog service has the file open09:22
memphistoblackflow: so its ok, its going through srsyslogd09:22
blackflowchl_: well obviously if it doesn't have the permission and yet the log appears there, it used the logging service09:22
memphistoblackflow: nobody else is using it09:22
blackflowmemphisto: I know, why are you telling me that? :)09:23
memphistoblackflow: cause your wondering why do you have app logs in syslog09:23
blackflowmemphisto: I most cetrainly am not :)  chl_ is09:23
memphistoblackflow: then i missunderstood something09:24
blackflowyup.09:24
blackflowbrb09:24
chl_ok, so with an: lsof -u <appuser> -t /var/log/syslog the process ids shows up, but I dont get how that is possible when the <appuser> does not have permissions to write to syslog09:30
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blackflowchl_: what program is that?10:20
chl_blackflow: its a custom application, but gunicorn runs infront of it, so I think that might be where the problem lies10:23
blackflowchl_: most certainly, if the application is opening the file directly, it should NOT do so.10:25
chl_application is writing to its own logs stored in /var/log/<app_name>/<app_name>.log10:25
blackflowis gunicorn run as root, as a service?10:26
chl_as a service, but not root10:26
blackflowchl_: well then is the user part of the adm group? though default confugration allows write only to the syslog user10:28
blackflowchl_: or maybe there's a custom facl rule allowing access to that specific file?10:29
chl_no, its only member of its own group10:29
AlirezaHi10:29
chl_aha, you said something clever blackflow10:29
chl_in /etc/group it says the user is member of syslog10:30
blackflowand what are the ownerships of hte /var/log/syslog?10:31
chl_no, wait, sorry, wrong user10:31
chl_"groups <app_user>" only output membership of its own group10:32
blackflowchl_: well it can be then. either the user has write access to the file directly, or through group memebership (but then /var/log/syslog would need g+w which it doesn't by default), or through an ACL, OR the service started as root at some point, opened the file, and then went unprivileged.10:34
blackflow*can't be10:34
chl_alright, I guess I have some digging to do :) thanks alot blackflow10:34
blackflowI'll thank him when I see him, yeah :)10:35
rush_im back10:37
ghostnik11hey quick question where can i find out info on my bluetooth. like the init.sh? is there something like that in ubuntu that i can look at that,will give me info on bluetooth?10:38
rush_hi ubuntu10:39
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Guest644hi, I have a serious problem 2 days ago. PC doesn't boot and display "failure sector 0x82 on hd0" and give the grub rescue> prompt10:41
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hateballblackbird1: sounds like your drive is failing10:42
blackbird1I'm afraid so10:43
hateballblackbird1: can you liveboot with ubuntu usb and check the partitions for errors?10:43
hateballblackbird1: you can also check the disk health with smartmontools. it is probably time to backup and get a new drive by the sound of it10:43
rush_im having trouble doing a system image back up of ubuntu.  managed it on acronis for windows, but for some reason ithe back up takes a looong time to boot10:43
rush_maybe cos the drive is a different size than the original ?10:43
blackbird1hateball: Yes, I'm on live usb right now10:43
blackbird1ha10:44
MR_Sp0ngeBoBwe are anonymous10:45
blackbird1hateball: Please help me to recover my data.10:45
MR_Sp0ngeBoBwrong data?10:45
hateballblackbird1: can you access the drive at all from the live session?10:45
rush_blackbird, hook it up to acronis back up on windows, then do a system image copy10:46
rush_maybe it will be ok10:46
rush_bumbar bummed out lol10:46
MR_Sp0ngeBoB@blackbird all ojay?10:46
MR_Sp0ngeBoBokay10:47
MR_Sp0ngeBoBwkwk10:47
ElectroXexualHow can I find the KeyCode of a keyboard key?10:47
blackbird1hateballn rush_: Mounting the partition /dev/sda1 failed10:48
rush_hmm10:48
tomreynElectroXexual: xev10:48
MR_Sp0ngeBoBmission fail10:48
rush_i used acronis on windows to back up my linux usb the other day10:48
rush_thats all i can tell you10:48
rush_bcked up the usb linux to a 25ogb ssd lol. and it boots.. just boots slowly10:49
ElectroXexualtomreyn, thanks10:49
MR_Sp0ngeBoBwtf10:49
hateballblackbird1: does it give any additional information?10:49
MR_Sp0ngeBoB:v10:49
MR_Sp0ngeBoBi cant speak english haha10:50
MR_Sp0ngeBoBim hacker from indonesia10:50
tomreynon linux, you'd use ddrescue to create an image of a storage device, then operate on y copy of that image.10:50
MR_Sp0ngeBoBhaha10:50
hateballblackbird1: do you have an internet connection in the live session? if you you can "sudo apt update && sudo apt install smartmontools" then you can check you drives health with "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"10:51
tomreynMR_Sp0ngeBoB: do you have an ubuntu support question, though? since this is what this channel is about only, but there are other ubuntu channels)10:51
blackbird1hateball, https://pastebin.com/RLhA0L5m10:51
hateballblackbird1: But you can also try running a "sudo fsck /dev/sda1"10:51
hateballblackbird1: yeah those errors indicate a failing drive10:52
rush_ubuntu is the best linux os.  im an impatial newbie, but there sa reason its the number  distro.  looks good runs good10:52
rush_blackbird, u better get that thing hooked up as an extranal drive and get as much of your data off it ass possible befor eit dies10:53
blackbird1hateball: https://pastebin.com/5xDTRmW710:53
tomreynblackbird1: put the drive in a fridge (not freezer) for 30 minutes, then try recovering it again using dd_rescue. try to keep it as well cooled as possible.10:53
blackbird1rush_: I'm trying to get data off, but How to do that ?10:54
rush_get a long lead, run it from insde the fridge lol10:54
rush_im not sure blackbird.. try differnet methods, different softwares.  maybe one will be good enuff t let you get access10:54
blackbird1tomreyn, are you serious :) ?10:54
hateballtomreyn: I read that with modern drives that have support for parking the freezer trick can actually cause more harm (I had a similar situation a few weeks ago)10:55
tomreynhateball: not freezer, fridge10:56
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tomreynblackbird1: yes. it can help. if the drive is currently hot then everything grows. so things *may* work better if cooled.10:56
tomreynbut you'd want to put it into a plastic bag, in case its not helium filled and it got air flow10:57
tomreynhardware is really ##hardware, though10:58
rush_i bet ssd's work really ewll in sub zero temps.  no moving parts10:59
rush_as long as they dont get icy10:59
Ndraz3nhello all10:59
Ndraz3nhahabba10:59
Ndraz3nahsjshs10:59
Ndraz3nshs10:59
Ndraz3nah ah ah10:59
rush_hi ndraz, you got epilepsy ?10:59
Ndraz3nhow i can install dual boot ubuntu11:00
ikoniarush_: not helpful11:00
Ndraz3nhi rush,no11:00
rush_well, he was spamming11:00
Ndraz3nshhh ahhh shhhaaaaa crotttttt crotttttttttttt11:00
Ndraz3nkontol :v11:00
Ndraz3nno rush,im boring11:01
ikoniaNdraz3n: please stop that11:01
ikoniaNdraz3n: you're in a support channel for ubuntu, please try to stick to that discussion, no random noise please11:01
Ndraz3nok ikona11:01
ikoniathanks11:01
Ndraz3nsorry11:01
blackbird1hateball: I'm trying to paste the result of "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda"11:01
Ndraz3nhow replay message11:01
EriC^blackbird1: sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999911:01
Ndraz3n<h>11:02
Ndraz3nrush,ikonia11:02
Ndraz3noy11:02
rush_some one will answer your question ndraz, if they know how to help11:03
rush_or u cns try google while u wait11:03
Ndraz3nwhat you number hp?11:03
rush_hp what ?11:04
Ndraz3nhandphone :v11:04
Ndraz3nnumber phone11:04
rush_why would i give you that11:04
Ndraz3nmake a friend11:04
tomreynNdraz3n: do you have an ubuntu support question?11:04
Ndraz3nno bro11:05
rush_he wanted to know how to dual boot ubuntu11:05
tomreynokay, but that's the only thing topical here.11:05
rush_in between jerking around11:05
Ndraz3nsorry all11:06
tomreynNdraz3n: if you have questions about how to dual boot, this is the right place, just not for general chat11:06
Ndraz3nhow to dual boot ubuntu?11:06
Ndraz3nin windows 7 32bit11:07
tomreyndual boot ubuntu, so two copies of ubuntu next to one another?11:07
tomreynso do you mean ubuntu and windows 7 next to one another?11:07
Ndraz3nyes11:07
Ndraz3ntes tom11:07
Ndraz3nyes*11:07
Ndraz3nyou can help me?11:07
tomreynnow which one?11:08
blackbird1EriC^, it doesn't paste all the out put11:08
tomreynNdraz3n: ubuntu and ubuntu, or ubuntu and windows?11:08
EriC^blackbird1: try with sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 999911:08
Ndraz3nubuntu and windows tom11:08
rush_windows and one ubuntu?   or windows and 2 ubuntus ?11:08
rush_well one of each is pretty easy11:08
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tomreynNdraz3n: you install windows first, then install ubuntu. done.11:09
Ndraz3nok thanks11:09
Ndraz3nim off now11:09
blackbird1EriC^, same thing11:09
EriC^blackbird1: what output is it missing? the end?11:09
blackbird1a lot11:09
rush_does any one know any good weather apps for ubuntu?11:11
EriC^blackbird1: try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io11:11
blackbird1How to find out if the sector 0x82 was copied into a backup sector ?11:13
bipulblackbird1, Does it has to deal with disk?11:14
tomreynblackbird1: extract and reverse engineer the drive firmware11:15
EriC^xD11:15
rush_gotta split,  bye all11:15
blackbird1bipul: Sorry, I didn't understand your question.11:16
senecatyHow can I upgrade to firefox 61 on ubuntu 18.04 (bionic)?11:17
blackflowsenecaty: wait until it comes through updates11:17
jlucthere are links on https://www.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/new/ did you try11:18
bipulblackbird1, When you mention sectors , that means "sectors on disk"?11:19
blackbird1bipul: yes11:19
bipulYou're pointing to the address where data has been stored. Right?11:19
bipulWell checksum is there to check for data integrity.11:20
blackbird10x82 the sector that causes the error11:21
bipuland consistency.11:22
bipulThat means that sector is corrupted. You have to format and reassign the file system.11:22
tomreynyou dont format the file system because a sector is corrupt, no11:23
blackflowwell, you attempt to write to it so the HDD ECC mechanisms reallocate it11:23
blackflow*EC11:24
bipulYes.11:25
tomreynor you don't make things worse and ignore this (virtual) sector.11:31
blackflowor get a new drive. Once bad sectors start proliferating, it'll only get worse11:36
tomreynthis ssemed to be about data recovery, not about reusing / prlonging use of the drive (that'd be a very bad idea in this situation), but i can be wrong11:37
blackflowsure, this was just comment wrt masking bad sectors by allowing them to reallocate. that's always just a temporary solution.11:39
blackflows/allowing/forcing/11:39
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coldninehello11:50
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geodb27People : hi ! Is there something special to do, on an ubuntu 16.04 system, to enable php syntax folding with vim ? I've tried many tutos, and all says roughly to do a let php_folding=1 and :set folding=syntax, but it doesn't work at all.12:12
adrian_1908geodb27: consider asking in #vim, probably a higher chance of someone knowing.12:14
geodb27All right, I'll go for that, thanks for your kind answer adrian_1908 :-)12:14
adrian_1908:)12:16
Neizan_hello is there any ubuntu software to recover removed files of android?12:18
blackflowgeodb27:   does    :set ft=php   change anything?12:18
geodb27let me try.12:18
geodb27The filetype is already set to php12:19
blackflowgeodb27: so then you do have php syntax highlighting12:21
blackflowgeodb27: ohhh... you asked about folding12:21
geodb27indeed :-)12:21
MR_Sp0ngeBoBhello guys12:36
MR_Sp0ngeBoBsepi njir12:36
MR_Sp0ngeBoBcabut ah12:37
qwebirc96823hello12:52
qwebirc96823is there anybody here12:52
qwebirc96823?12:52
qwebirc96823...12:53
MonkeyDustqwebirc96823  type   /names12:54
qwebirc96823I am typing "/names" (without quotes) and nothing happens12:54
MonkeyDustqwebirc96823  this is the ubuntu support channel, ask your ubuntu question here12:55
qwebirc96823ok, thanks a lot. I have tried to create an USB bootable installation of Ubuntu, but didn't succeed12:56
EriC^how did you try?12:56
qwebirc96823https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#012:56
qwebirc96823followed these instructions12:56
qwebirc96823and arrived until the end (it was very easy)12:56
MonkeyDustqwebirc96823  are you now in window or in ubuntu?12:56
qwebirc96823windows12:57
MonkeyDustwindows*12:57
MonkeyDustqwebirc96823  better ask in ##windows, then12:57
qwebirc96823I boot my pc, select the boot from the USB device, and get an error12:57
oerhekstekll us where it goes wrong, and check your download of the iso.12:58
MonkeyDustqwebirc96823  what error? it may contain the first step to a solution12:58
qwebirc96823is there an alternative link you can suggest to create a bootable USB installation of Ubuntu?12:58
MonkeyDustqwebirc96823  if you're working in windows, you better ask in the channel i just suggested12:59
oerheks!md5sum12:59
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM12:59
oerheksin ##windows they will joke13:00
qwebirc96823SHA256: 3F8FE0A5987CF508317300963AF7845B01A8E45FC7E7D3EB2B094A40ED8D0A3B13:00
qwebirc96823ubuntu-12.04.5-desktop-i386.iso13:00
oerheksunsupported, EOL, dead13:00
oerhekstry 14.0413:00
qwebirc96823ok, I'll try 14.04... I wanted the oldest Ubuntu available13:01
qwebirc96823unsupported... it doesn't matter to me, I want to use for running a SINGLE old program that I badly need13:02
qwebirc96823again, would you suggest an alternative link for an how-to on how to create a bootable USB installation of Ubuntu?13:03
oerheksno, that url would do fine13:03
qwebirc96823I cannot ask in a Windows channel... I boot my pc, immediately ask to go to the USB device attached, and it doesn't work... Windows is out of the picture the entire time13:04
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tomreyn"doesn't work" and "an error" are useless descritions for triaging issues.13:05
qwebirc96823tomeryn, agreed...13:06
tomreynexplain what was printed on screen, how the system behaved13:06
tomreynthen try to do better ;)13:06
qwebirc96823I'll try to do it again and report the error13:06
qwebirc96823thanks for your help so far13:06
qwebirc96823see you later (with another nick)13:07
tomreynit will probably start with "qwebirc", too13:07
tomreynsee you then13:07
qwebirc40576I am back, I was asking minutes ago about an USB installation13:10
niko:1513:11
qwebirc40576"the selected boot device failed. press enter to continue", this is the first message13:11
qwebirc40576when I press enter, it allows me to select either Windows boot manager or "boot from EFI file", and I choose the latter13:12
qwebirc40576The first option is Ubuntu 12_0, and I select it13:12
qwebirc40576and then it just shows me a list of directories: <disk>, <boot>, <casper>...13:13
qwebirc40576the last one is <preseed>13:14
qwebirc40576and I am stuck there13:14
tomreynqwebirc40576: make sure your bios (uefi) is configured to allow booting from usb13:14
tomreynalso disable secureboot13:14
qwebirc40576it allows booting from USB because it asks me whether to use the hard disk or my usb13:14
qwebirc40576secureboot... this may be, I will google for it13:15
adrian_1908qwebirc40576: secureboot is sometimes hidden behind a "Windows" section in the BIOS13:16
qwebirc40576question: may I test this USB installation on an older notebook that (hopefully) doesn't have secureboot?13:18
JimBuntuqwebirc40576, sure, test away13:18
qwebirc40576thanks13:18
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nmrhhi, i'm looking for a little help/direction with previous functional ssh/gnome-keyring-daemon configuration that stop working13:29
nmrhthe sytem is that ssh login using a private key now no longer work13:30
nmrhsymptom13:30
nmrhsymptom's started this morning (after a system restart) but was working as of last night13:31
nmrhubuntu 18.0413:31
memphistonmrh: not using it. but can you check the link https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME/Keyring#Start_SSH_and_Secrets_components_of_keyring_daemon13:32
nmrhmemphisto: will do13:32
nmrhfor reference ssh -vvv user@host ends with complaints about not finding id_rsa files13:34
memphistonmrh: so have you checked ~/.ssh/ folder for id_rsa?13:34
nmrhmemphisto: there are no files "id_rsa" in ~/.ssh/ but all the files user_rsa that I have used as of last night are present13:36
memphistonmrh: what do you have there..can you list those13:36
memphistonmrh: i have id_rsa  id_rsa.pub  known_hosts  known_hosts.old13:37
memphistonmrh: you should have the same (maybe not known_hosts.old)13:37
nmrhmemphisto: authorized_keys, known_hosts, various user_rsa and user_rsa.pub for the servers I log into regularly all permissions look correct13:38
svipIs it possible to flash/upgrade a BIOS (Dell) from Ubuntu without a USB device?13:38
nmrhmemphisto: user_rsa is generic for about 3 boxes I log into: eg user1_rsa, user2_rsa etc13:39
memphistonmrh: do you have ssh_host_rsa_key.pub in /etc/ssh13:42
nmrhmemphisto: remote sever or client side13:42
nmrh?13:42
memphistoserver side; place where you connect to13:43
nmrhmemphisto: hold on, I'll have to physicaly go to box to check...13:43
nmrhmemphisto: on anouther ubuntu 18.04 the server config looks good (the file you reference is present)13:45
nmrhone of the "boxes" is a dd-wrt router so I think it unlikely the issue is server side13:46
CoolerHello?13:47
nmrhhard to imagine 2 ubuntu boxes and dd-wrt sshd all went bad at same time...13:47
CoolerI am trying to set the grub bootloader as the default bootloader13:47
nmrhunless there has been a major change ssh and I missed the prompt to update my configuration13:48
CoolerHowever my laptop seems to ignore that and goes directly to the windows bootloader13:48
CoolerAlso there appears to be at least 4 bootloader files13:49
memphistoCooler: from BIOS/ UEFI change boot device13:49
CoolerYes I can change the bootloader13:49
memphistonmrh: don't know. but can you generate a ssh key in box that misses it. do ssh-copy-id to other box and try13:50
CoolerI have secure boot on13:51
svipIt seems like the DellBIOS-guide hasn't been updated in some time.  Dell's newer drivers don't allow for the 'floppy' trick.13:51
svipAnd the FreeDOS-link is down.13:52
nmrhmemphisto: thanks for the help and suggestion - I'll stick around in this channel for a bit while trouble shooting13:52
CoolerIf I go into the "select a boot file as trusted" option, it lets me select from the uefi file system13:52
memphistoCooler: good, and selected ubutnut one13:53
CoolerI can select from 4 different files in the Ubuntu folder13:53
Coolerfwupx6413:53
memphistoCooler: use the one with shim in the name13:53
Coolergrubx6413:53
Coolershimx6413:53
Coolermmx6413:54
CoolerAll have the .efi extension13:54
CoolerI previously selected grubx6413:54
memphistoCooler: shim is used for secure boot13:55
ela_hello, fresh installation of ubuntu mate on raspi2 and i cant open firefox bc it's crashing. can someone help me please?13:56
qwebirc91837good evening13:56
qwebirc91837afternoon sorry13:56
qwebirc91837I am having a java problem, that is supposed to be out of jvm related and it definitely has to do with some hardware type issue13:57
qwebirc91837do you mind me sending the logs and you can have a look?13:57
michaelhhi13:57
qwebirc91837I have tried all online solutions13:57
whoamihelo..13:58
CoolerThat's really weird13:58
michaelhkubuntu 18 is not detecting any other computers on the network ( 4 connected) 2 are windows & 2 are Kubuntu 18 with samba & shared folder .. but non of them are being detected.13:58
qwebirc88608hi everybody, I am back with my issue with USB installation of Ubuntu13:58
qwebirc88608I have disabled secureboot, with no effect13:58
michaelhqwebirc88608: what's the issue ?13:58
CoolerI can't see the shim option in the list of bootloaders13:58
patrick_hello13:58
CoolerIn the list where you can select the boot order13:58
CoolerI previously had all 4 listed there13:59
qwebirc88608created and USB bootable system with the following instructions13:59
qwebirc88608https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#013:59
CoolerBut then I select reset secure boot settings to factory settings13:59
qwebirc88608it seems it worked, but I cannot boot from there13:59
qwebirc91837Can anybody help with the java problem??13:59
CoolerAnd the I added shimx64 as a trusted file13:59
memphistoCooler: you said you have shimx64.efi13:59
memphistoCooler: can you boot now14:00
novalrhmdhy i from indo14:00
CoolerBut it's not showing up in the list where you can change the boot order14:00
CoolerDo I have to reboot after adding a new file as secure?14:00
michaelhqwebirc88608:  and what's the error you get ?14:01
memphistoCooler: it shoulndn' be necessary to do so14:01
qwebirc88608"the selected boot device failed"14:02
whoamitiktok14:02
qwebirc88608it allows me to continue pressing Enter14:02
qwebirc88608there is the option "boot from EFI file"14:02
CoolerDamn it, maybe I shouldn't have factory reset the secure boot settings14:02
qwebirc88608I choose Ubuntu from the list14:03
memphistoCooler: maybe :)14:03
CoolerBecause even after rebooting shim isn't showing up in the list14:03
qwebirc88608and it shows me a list of directories in the USB device, and I am stuck there14:03
michaelhqwebirc88608: I havnt used these windows tools for years after started using Kubuntu as my main (always used manually installed grub2 + isos) .. but I remember YUMI never failed me before so try it ?  https://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/14:03
CoolerAnd if I try to add shim as a secure file again it shows a message saying "file is exist"14:03
memphistoCooler: maybe you've added it to boot manager; just select it and boot14:04
CoolerCan I remove stuff from the boot order list?14:04
qwebirc88608thanks michaelh14:04
qwebirc88608...michaelh, but I'm on a Windows system, does this Yumi work on Windows?14:05
nmrhok, "ssh -i .ssh/user_rsa user@host" will prompt me for my public key password and log me into host14:06
Coolermemphisto now the option is gone from the boot loader menu as well when I press F12 to select which device to boot from14:06
nmrhso likely not a ssh issue and likely a gnome-keyring-daemon issue...14:06
CoolerSo does that mean I somehow deleted the Ubuntu bootloader?14:06
michaelhqwebirc88608: that only means the boot loader has been installed correctly, but Im not sure how your tools extract the file to the USB ... but the tool I linked to is what got me started years ago & is very easy to use (and automated) . That's all I can help with, Good Luck14:07
michaelhqwebirc88608: yes, it's a windows only tool14:07
CoolerI will try adding grubx64 as a secure file as well14:07
user_Hello what is up?14:07
qwebirc88608thanks michaelh14:07
michaelhuser_: not sure what's up, but I know what's down : my kubuntu's ability to discover other pcs on the network is down !14:08
user_My download failed here14:08
CoolerOk that worked now I have the grub option in the F12 select boot device menu14:09
CoolerNow how do I get that to show up in the UEFI select boot order menu?14:10
EriC^Cooler: f12 is the one time boot ?14:10
CoolerOh wait I just rebooted and now it's in the select boot order menu14:11
CoolerAnd there we go14:11
CoolerNow grub is set as the default bootloader14:11
CoolerThanks for the help14:11
CoolerYes F12 is the one time boot14:12
memphistoCooler: great14:12
CoolerDo I need to update after a fresh install?14:13
nmrhis there anouther irc channel I could try for gnome-keyring issues on ubuntu?14:13
CoolerUpdate Ubuntu 1814:13
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noob1ieLini have installed vpn network manager / gnome etc, l2tp, vpnc etc. Once I create the vpn and click the radio button, it doesn't do anything. it just goes back to off14:21
pragmaticenigmaIs it normal to have devices labeled loop0, loop1, loop2 when looking at disk activity in nmon?14:21
noob1ieLini have already restarted te services14:21
blackflowpragmaticenigma: yes, snaps' loopbacks14:22
pragmaticenigmaah, that makes sense blackflow ... any idea why there'd be 4 of them? and is there a way to see which device belongs to which snap14:23
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blackflowpragmaticenigma: snap list   will show you how many snaps you have installed. in Bionic, by default there's a nubmer of them.14:26
ppfi have none on bionic14:26
blackflowpragmaticenigma: not sure about checking which device is which, maybe throuhg mountpoints in /snap/...14:26
blackflowppf: you removed them? :)14:27
ppfupgraded from artful14:27
ioriappf, same here,no snaps   with do-release-upgrade14:27
pragmaticenigmaodd... I only have core listed for snaps... yet 4 devices14:27
ioriapragmaticenigma, df -H14:27
ioriappf, but there are with a fresh install14:28
ppfioria: interesting, am i missing out on anything?14:28
CoolerWhy is there no brightness setting in the display settings?14:28
ppfnot a fan of snap to be honest14:29
CoolerHow do I change brightness?14:29
pragmaticenigmaCooler: your monitor or display driver may not support setting the brightness14:29
CoolerYes it does14:29
CoolerI was able to do it on windows14:29
ppfCooler: *driver14:29
CoolerThis is a laptop screen btw14:29
CoolerDo I have to update the drivers?14:29
ioriappf, nope , i think it's normal ...let's say system-monitor ; now it's a snap but if you upgrade from 17.10 it just upgrades the repo pkg14:30
pragmaticenigmaCooler: you may have to use the keyboard functions to change the brightness... If the drivers do not detect the ability, they will not display the option in the control panel14:30
CoolerI didn't install any 3rd party drivers14:30
CoolerHow do I update the drivers14:30
blackflowit's actually a bit disconcerting that upgrading leads to quite a different installation, than instaling from scratch. not sure upgrading is ever even recommended then...14:31
CoolerOh wait a second wth14:31
CoolerThere is a brightness setting on the power tab14:31
CoolerAnd I can change the brightness there14:31
pragmaticenigmaCooler: That would be because the display driver doesn't support it, however the power management drivers do14:32
Coolerimgur.com/qXobg5o14:33
CoolerSo I need to update the drivers then14:33
CoolerHow14:34
Cooler?14:34
pragmaticenigmaIf you can control it from the power management screen, that's all you're going to get... Ubuntu isn't like Windows... theere is no Update drivers, because the latest drivers are always installed14:34
CoolerWhat14:35
CoolerNo there's an option to install 3rd party drivers14:35
CoolerMaybe that will help14:35
mrpandahello14:35
mrpandahow can i emulate a hardisk to make seem like cd-rom drive ?14:36
pragmaticenigmaThat's not an update Cooler ... that's installing third party drivers... not the same thing14:36
EriC^mrpanda: why?14:36
mrpandai wanna install a game..14:36
CoolerYeah but maybe it will help14:37
MonkeyDustmrpanda  's question interests me, i wonder if it's possible14:41
mrpandahmm i think done it before14:41
mrpandabut forgot how14:41
GrandPa-GI have a c program that does printf. Works fine in terminal mode. I put it in a service and want to see the output someplace. I have tried StandardOutput=file:/<to file but nothing goes there. Any ideas?14:41
pragmaticenigmaAll storage devices are treated in a similar fashion... CD-ROM are just harddrives mounted as readonly... Are you sure mrpanda, that you are not meaning you want to mount an ISO image as a disk so you can play your game?14:42
mrpandayes i guess14:42
mrpandai tried furious iso mount14:43
bluesmonkfor docker users (I've asked in #docker already) I've lost internet connection after installing docker, and the docs suggest disabling the NetworkManager, but considering a production machine14:43
pragmaticenigmaGrandPa-G: When an application is launched as a service, it's output is not displayed anywhere... the application needs to write its own log file14:43
bluesmonkwhat is the tradeoff in disabling networkmanager?14:43
bluesmonkI can't find a proper workaround in google, so far I have to hardcode the dns address to google's14:44
bluesmonkrelated: https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/3615314:45
coconut_awayMonkeyDust: that would be something with mount iso loop, but do know what you're installing.14:48
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GrandPa-Gpragmaticenigma:then what is the point of the StandardOuput option in systemd?14:49
MonkeyDustcoconut  address mrpanda, he came up with the question14:50
mrpandaok, merci14:51
coconutoops, sorry14:51
mrpandafigure have to make iso from img14:51
mrpandano worries14:51
mrpandahave nice day :)14:51
pragmaticenigmaGrandPa-G: This might help... I'm not familiar with systemd, only that services typically don't provide output to stdout14:52
pragmaticenigmahttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/37585758/how-to-redirect-output-of-systemd-service-to-a-file14:52
GrandPa-Gpragmaticenigma:I wouldn't be here asking if I hadn't already did the google and found such answers. I am trying to find someone who has actucally done this and it worked.14:53
oerheksuse full path for that output file14:54
nmrhGrandPa-G: you may also want to google for flushing a (file) buffer14:55
GrandPa-Gnmrh:I don't even get the file created.14:56
nmrhGrandPa-G: It might have been written to a "buffer" but the buffer never was "flushed" before the program exited14:57
nmrhGrandPa-G: sorry, its been a while since I ran into a problem like this... just a suggestion of where to look for solutions14:57
GrandPa-Gnmrh:that maybe true, but the file still should have been created but 0 length.14:58
nmrhGrandPa-G: that is sensible and rational but I seem to recall that my sense and reason didn't apply15:00
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Ndraz3nwho online?15:02
Ndraz3nhello15:03
MonkeyDustNdraz3n   this is the ubuntu support channel, ask your ubuntu question here15:03
pragmaticenigmaGrandPa-G: You may have better luck with /join ##programming ... as they're are likely more people there who have a solution.15:03
Ndraz3nhow install ubuntu15:03
MonkeyDust!install15:04
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate15:04
GrandPa-Gpragmaticenigma:this is not a programming question, it is a systemd service question15:04
Ndraz3nthanks all15:04
pragmaticenigmaGrandPa-G: We're equiped to handle system configuration and running of applications that are provided through Ubuntu's software repositories. You mentioned that you were working with a C programing, which I assumed meant you were coding and testing an application.15:06
melon_sup15:07
melon_im melon15:07
melon_sup15:07
adrian_1908Hello, i want to install Wireshark. It asks me whether i want to install "dumpcap" vs having to run WS as root. Anyone got experience with that, and an opinion on the issue?15:07
pragmaticenigmamelon_: Weclome, do you have an Ubuntu related support question? Please feel free to ask it at anytime. Please understand this channel is for Ubuntu support. If you are interested in chatting, please see #ubuntu-offtopic.15:08
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: It depends on what purpose you are installing Wireshark for15:08
adrian_1908correction: It asks about installing "dumpcap" in a certain way, not whether at all.15:09
adrian_1908pragmaticenigma: just for me, on my home system, single user basically.15:09
adrian_1908And i want to learn a bit about where packets go, nothing too serious. Won't be using it daily.15:09
tomreynadrian_1908: running wireshark as root is considered dangerous / unsafe, since it does a lot of complex filtering on network traffic and this can easily result in sevrity vulnerabilities, which could then be easily exploited by a network attacker, gaining instant root on your sstem.15:09
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pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: I'd opt for the run WS as root option then15:09
CoolerNope changed to Nvidia drivers and still no brightness option15:10
tomreynsevrity -> severe15:10
pragmaticenigmatomreyn: In either case it runs with system level permissions. The question is installing dumpcap as a service versus launching the process when Wireshark is run15:11
adrian_1908The query message has about as divergent an suggestion as you two guys ;)15:11
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pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: I would suggest installing Kali-Linux to a VM (or even another copy of Ubuntu) and running Wireshark from there while you get familiar with it.15:13
adrian_1908"Dumpcap can be installed in a way ... This is recommended over the alternative of running WS directly as root." and 2 paragraphs below: "Enabling this feature may be a security risk, so it is disabled by default. In in doubt, it is suggested to leave it disabled".15:13
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: Without the full context, some of that is lost on me...15:13
adrian_1908pragmaticenigma: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3GngKBtTPC/15:14
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: Wireshark needs a component to run with administrator/root level permissions in order to "tap" into the network connections. That component is dumpcap. When you run WS as root, dumpcap gets it's permissions from the execution of wireshark as root.15:15
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: The other method, installs dumpcap as a system service. Where it always has the permissions it needs. The "as a service" as a security risk as it runs as a service and can potentially become an attack vector to compromise your system15:16
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: because dumpcap as a service is always on, instead of running WS as root, which means it is only running when WS is running15:17
adrian_1908pragmaticenigma: I see. I think i'll opt for the run-as-root path then.15:17
adrian_1908which looks to be the default (<No>)15:18
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: that's what I do with mine. If I were using wireshark as a network monitoring tool full time, or as part of a network security implementation, or shared environment; I would opt for the dumpcap as a service.15:18
adrian_1908pragmaticenigma: right. ok, thanks a lot for the quick help!15:19
pragmaticenigmaadrian_1908: you're welcome15:21
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CoolerZis there a way to disable the top bar?15:37
CoolerZi mean like hide it when an application is maximized15:37
oerhekssure, there are tons of gnome extentions, also "hide topbar" https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/15:38
oerheksand F11 does the same15:39
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ: Do note that most of your applications use the top bar for their menu's ... hiding it may remove some functionality15:39
JimBuntuAlso... if you want to remove it... say when using your browser... then F11 will also remove your tabs.15:41
CoolerZpragmaticenigma, that doesn't seem to be true15:47
CoolerZthe menu bar is in the application window itself, not the top bar15:47
CoolerZthe only this in the top bar is the application and if you click it the option to quit15:47
CoolerZJimBuntu, yeah but if you move your mouse close to the top while in fullscreen mode then the tabs will reappear15:49
JimBuntuCoolerZ, thank you, great to know.15:50
CoolerZhow do i move the things around?15:52
CoolerZthe top bar and the side bar?15:52
CoolerZok theres an option in settings > dock15:54
oerheksnot. there is some option in systemsettings, but for the sidebar only15:54
oerheksand gnome-tweak-tool might have more15:54
oerheksand on top of that gnome-shell-extensions15:55
oerheksgo wild15:55
cihhanhi all! i am having some problem with my server. i have installed ubuntu 18 server and due to the softwares, i need to use the legacy network naming (eth0, eth1). i used GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" and then update-grub. however, it fails to get an ip. i see igb ... pcie link lost, device now detached warning. and 'ip a' shows that the ethernet port is down. any suggestions?16:01
uboai upgraded ubuntu to bionic from artful and i got this https://bpaste.net/show/09d9116221eb some problem with gpg using oobsolete commands so now i can't use encrypted backups?16:01
blackflowcihhan: if you change the NIC name, you have to adjust the network config files as well. check /etc/netplan/...  unless you configured something else instead16:03
pragmaticenigmacihhan: I would revert the changed settings back to their original and find a better solution. Starting with the application looking for eth0 may have an update (as the dropping of eth0 has been planned for 12 years)16:04
blackflowpragmaticenigma: "dropping of eth0"? what.16:04
pragmaticenigmadropping of the usage eth016:04
pragmaticenigmausing the newer naming methods16:04
blackflowcertainly not by the kernel (who does the (re)naming), as that would break userland which Linus is VERY LOUDLY against :)16:05
oerheksnetplan +116:05
pragmaticenigmablackflow: I thought it was controlled through ifconfig16:06
pragmaticenigmamy bad16:06
blackflowifconfig is deprecated, tho'. if that's what you meant.16:07
CoolerZanyone here use kde plasma desktop?16:07
cihhanblackflow and pragmaticenigma: the thing is another computer is working just fine with the same configuraiton. however, this one is giving such an issue.16:07
blackflowcihhan: right so did you check the config files?16:07
cihhanthe other problem is that unfortunately this is the case bcs i can't change multiple softwares16:07
CoolerZis it the same as kubuntu-desktop?16:07
cihhani was also using net-tools (/etc/init.d/networking)16:07
cihhanand it seems to be fine16:07
CoolerZaccording to this website you need tasksel to install it?16:07
CoolerZhttps://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-kde-plasma-desktop-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux16:07
oerheksCoolerZ, yeas, but join the #kubuntu channel and ask about neon16:08
pragmaticenigmacihhan: the method you used I have found a thread with dozens of comments saying to not do it... it was applied to Ubuntu 16.04.x version... what I'm seeing is there are udev rules that need to be changed to make it work properly16:08
blackflowpragmaticenigma: no you don't16:08
blackflownet.ifnames=0 suffices16:08
leftyfbyou'll also need to change the netplan config16:09
leftyfbcihhan: did you reboot after making the change?16:09
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ: Plasma desktop is the engine that KDE uses to create it's desktop environment. It is included with any KDE installation. Which is provided by the kubuntu installation. You can also install KDE in your current system if you like without requiring a reinstall16:09
leftyfbugh, netsplit16:10
cihhanleftyfb: yep, i rebooted. also afaik, if you have net-tools and ifupdown, you can skip netplan16:10
leftyfbcihhan: I would grep -R /etc for the old NIC names16:10
blackflowcihhan: but taht requires proper config in /etc/network/interfaces .. did you set that up?16:11
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cihhanblackflow: yep, i have the configuration16:11
blackflowcihhan: pastebin it please?16:11
leftyfbblackflow: no network ;)16:11
cihhanthe issue is that when i run 'ip a', i see that the port is down even though it should be up16:11
blackflowleftyfb: and he's here how? magick and fairy dust? :)16:11
blackflows/he16:11
cihhanand it says igb,,, eth0: PCIe link lost, device now detached16:12
leftyfbblackflow: how are they going to get the config from the server to the client he's on now? usb flash drive?16:12
blackflowleftyfb: obs from the console. or else this assistance is moot as teh server can't be reached....16:12
blackflow*obviously16:12
CoolerZpragmaticenigma, what is kde?16:13
leftyfbblackflow: think 2 machines. One he's online with now talking to us. The other is the server that is not online at all. There's no way to pastebin configs from that offline server unless sneaker-netting conf files to the client workstation16:13
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ: KDE is an alternative Desktop Environment, Gnome is the default isntalled with Ubuntu, KDE is the default that is installed with Kubuntu16:13
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CoolerZok16:14
leftyfbcihhan: what does "ifconfig" show for interface names? The original or the legacy?16:14
CoolerZand why is it called kubuntu16:14
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blackflowleftyfb: you do realize there is also then no way to fix it?16:14
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ: To help differentiate between the two installation options.16:14
blackflowcihhan: can you ssh to the server or otherwise access the terminal?16:14
leftyfbblackflow: incorrect. keyboard and monitors work fine16:14
blackflowSIGH!16:14
cihhanleftyfb: it shows that there is no packet transfer at all16:15
cihhanit show eth016:15
leftyfbcihhan: I didn't ask that16:15
cihhanblackflow: i cant, it doesnt have any network packet transfer at all16:15
leftyfbcihhan: ok. Are you setting static ip's or dhcp in your configs?16:15
blackflowcihhan: can you access the machine, look at the interfaces file and pastebin that please?16:15
coconutWhat was that with freenode a minute ago? (or was it me?)16:15
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ: The K is for KDE... a common naming convention used by developers "back in the day" to show the application the wrote was for KDE versus Gnome16:15
blackflowcihhan: then how are you planning to fix this?16:15
cihhanleftyfb: doesnt matter -- it shows the interface as down16:16
cihhaneven though the cable is connected16:16
leftyfbblackflow: what part of this aren't you getting? The machine is completely offline. To say we won't help you get it online because you can't get it online is silly16:16
leftyfbcihhan: it does matter16:16
* pragmaticenigma is stepping away for a bit...16:16
leftyfbblackflow: what part of this aren't you getting? The machine is completely offline. To say we won't help you get it online because you can't get it online is silly16:16
leftyfbcihhan: ok. Are you setting static ip's or dhcp in your configs?16:16
cihhan`ip link show` shows that it is DOWN16:16
leftyfbcihhan: stop16:16
cihhanleftyfb: dhcp16:16
leftyfbok16:16
CoolerZpragmaticenigma, so its like xwindow?16:16
leftyfbcihhan: can you set it to a static ip for troubleshooting purposes?16:16
blackflowleftyfb: setting where if her's no acces to the machine?16:16
pragmaticenigmaCoolerZ: No16:16
leftyfbblackflow: there is not NO access to the machine. There's just not network access to it16:17
cihhani remember trying and it didnt work, let me try again16:17
naccthere clearly is access to it, or they couldn't get `ip link` output ...16:17
leftyfbcihhan: lets try it now16:17
blackflowleftyfb: so what's the problem about pastebinning the interface file? those few lines can't be retyped? a photo can't be taken?16:17
CoolerZset of window management libraries?16:17
naccCoolerZ: what are you asking about? what kde is?16:17
coconutpffffffff16:18
oerheksis tris trivia?16:18
leftyfbcihhan: after you configure the static ip's, try: sudo ifup eth016:19
tomreyndid anyone working on cihan's issue notice that it's not the NIC looing a network link but the PCI link beetween mainboard and NIC going down?16:19
leftyfbtomreyn: where did you see that?16:19
tomreyn"igb ... pcie link lost, device now detached" - the message quoted here twice16:19
leftyfbthat would be a problem then16:20
cihhanifup eth0 says no such device somehow. interesting.16:20
leftyfbcihhan: dmesg -T16:20
leftyfbcihhan: do you see the NIC disconnecting from the pcie bus there?16:20
tomreynit may still be an igb bug, or a mainboard / mainboard firmware / NIC firmware / power issue.16:20
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cihhanok here is another thing i tried16:21
CoolerZanyway is it really heavy weight? kde plasma?16:21
oerheksplease notice > https://freenode.net/news/security-update-rpa16:21
cihhani tried lshw -c network and it shows them as disabled16:21
leftyfbcihhan: dmesg -T16:21
CoolerZsome websites saying xfce is better for laptops, battery powered devices16:21
blackflowleftyfb: srsly?! after you trolled about that request to pastebin interfaces?!16:21
oerheksCoolerZ, only you can tell on your system/specs16:21
naccCoolerZ: 'heavy weight' is totally relative. it is heavier than xfce, etc.16:22
tomreyni recently read the changelog for one of the more common intel NICs which are driven by igb, and i think it said something about a NIC firmware issue there.16:22
leftyfbblackflow: I didn't ask to pastebin anything16:22
cihhanthe last things are PCIe link list, device now detached16:22
tomreynforgot the details, though16:22
naccCoolerZ: I would not say any of the flavors are specifically better for 'laptops'16:22
naccCoolerZ: if your machine is older/slower, you might find the desktop more responsive with lubuntu/xubuntu certainly16:22
leftyfbcihhan: maybe power down and re-seat the NIC's?16:22
cihhanleftyfb: the last things are saying PCIe link list, device now detached16:23
cihhanleftyfb: i have rebooted multiple times...16:23
nacccihhan: it appears to be a hardware issue16:23
leftyfbcihhan: I didn't say reboot16:23
blackflowcihhan: $1M question. do you have working networking when you remove those kernel command line options?16:23
cihhanooh but when i go back to the regular ubuntu 18 confiugration, they are working again16:23
leftyfbcihhan: "regular 18 configuration"?16:24
cihhanblackflow: yes, at the beginning it works fine with the clean ubuntu 18 configuration, it works fine16:24
blackflowso can we go back to square one please and start with the config at hand, pastebin, retype, take a photo, whatev...16:24
cihhanafter i change the device names to eth0, it fails16:24
leftyfbcihhan: can you reproduce this now?16:24
blackflowcihhan: can you somehow show us the configuration you're using?16:24
cihhanleftyfb: sure, i can just comment out the /etc/default/grub file conf and update-grub and reboot16:24
leftyfbcihhan: ok, can you do that now? Can you get it back online by reverting your changes?16:25
cihhanblackflow: you mean the network or the grub change?16:25
blackflowcihhan: network16:25
cihhanleftyfb: sure, let me do it16:25
cihhanwith an empty /etc/network/interfaces file, it got an ip from the dhcp server and it has internet now16:28
tomreynhere's an example log for when igb reports this issue (ooold kernel, unrelated issue, just to know what the log records look like); https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/7233151/16:28
cihhanleftyfb: with an empty /etc/network/interfaces file, it got an ip from the dhcp server and it has internet now16:28
* blackflow gives up. good luck16:29
oerheksagain, netplan +116:29
cihhanblackflow: thanks a lot for the suggestions so far, i truly understand16:30
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leftyfbcihhan: ok, so no E/N/I and you get an ip?16:31
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CoolerZinteresting, does ubuntu have anything on ctrl + u and ctrl + l ?16:31
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cihhanleftyfb: what is E/N/I? but yes, it gets ip from dhcp server.16:32
CoolerZbecause in sublime text ctrl + u is set to uppercase the selected text16:32
CoolerZbut instead it deselects the selection16:32
leftyfbcihhan: with eth0 as the iface name?16:32
CoolerZand ctrl + l is supposed to lower case the selection, but instead it selects the entire line16:32
cihhanleftyfb: no, i just returned to the original naming16:33
CoolerZin the keybindings file, the keyboard shortcut hasn't been changed16:33
CoolerZand also in the command palette, "convert to uppercase" command still shows ctrl + u16:34
leftyfbcihhan: ok, I think your issue is that you still have netplan controlling things but then are trying to use interfaces to config and things get confusing16:34
oerheksCoolerZ, but sublime text is paid stuff, and does not follow the open source rules16:34
CoolerZdo i have to change the keyboard shortcuts in the ubuntu settings?16:34
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CoolerZoerheks, what does that have to do with this?16:35
CoolerZalso its free to use16:35
cihhanleftyfb: let me purge it and go back to eth0 to test it again16:35
cihhanleftyfb: do you think that it would be a good idea to try?16:35
leftyfbcihhan: I didn't say switch back to eth016:35
leftyfbcihhan: I think it would be a good idea to listen to suggestions16:36
leftyfbcihhan: and stick to 1 path of troubleshooting at a time16:36
cihhanleftyfb: the problems are there are multiple softwares written for the old interfaces. now, i cant just go over so many tools and change them right now. this is why im trying to find a way to make it work using the old way16:37
leftyfbcihhan: As of right now, you are online and things are working. If you want it working with ifupdown, then you need to figure out how to properly migrate from netplan to ifupown so they don't conflict. DO NOT mix other variables in like changing the interface names yet16:37
leftyfbcihhan: 1 thing at a time16:37
leftyfbcihhan: that said, you should not rely on software that hardcodes interface names ... but deal with that later16:38
oerheksit implies that you need to alter the shortkeys to have the same feel & look, for one application16:38
cihhanleftyfb: i know, but one thing at a time. so i cant change them right now. but that s in to do s list16:39
CoolerZoerheks, i am asking about ubuntu tho, does ubuntu have anything set on ctrl + u, if so can i change it?16:39
cihhanleftyfb: regarding to the netplan, it seems that it s not installed right now also16:39
leftyfbcihhan: sure, but not right now. Work on properly migrating from netplan to ifupdown16:39
leftyfbcihhan: if you have no config in e/n/i (/etc/network/interfaces) then something else is controlling your network interfaces, more likely netplan. What makes you think netplan isn't installed right now?16:40
oerheksCoolerZ, yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts16:41
oerheksthat ctrl + i gives italic16:41
cihhanleftyfb: i remember that i installed net-tools and ifupdown. so they might be the ones controlling16:41
leftyfbcihhan: if you have no config in e/n/i (/etc/network/interfaces) then something else is controlling your network interfaces, more likely netplan. What makes you think netplan isn't installed right now?16:42
oerheksthe ctrl keys are common, so why sublime text wants to change that, really not good16:42
cihhanleftyfb: apt remove netplan shows that it s not installed16:42
ioriacihhan,   dpkg -l netplan.io16:42
cihhanioria: you are right, it s still there. i thought it s netplan, not netplan.io16:44
ioriacihhan,  but no need to remove it, in my opinion16:44
leftyfbnetplan is a package name16:44
leftyfbok, looks like it doesn't get installed though16:45
leftyfbinteresting16:45
oerheksbecause of ifupdown16:45
oerheksgood to tell such details at the end16:45
leftyfbcihhan: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/disable-netplan-on-ubuntu-17-10.html16:47
leftyfbioria: will that work in 18.04?16:47
iorialet me see16:47
cihhanioria: let me try that part too16:47
iorialeftyfb, no idea, but easy to test and revert16:48
leftyfbseems like a simple fix, but seems lower level then it needs to be16:48
cihhanioria: let me try16:48
ioriacihhan,  i guess you wanna get rid of netplan config and use the interfaces file with ifupdown,right ?16:49
psiva87test16:50
naccleftyfb: netplan is not the same as nplan16:51
cihhanioria: yes and also with eth0 namings16:51
naccleftyfb: just an fyi, it's an *old* package name16:51
ioriacihhan, and atm your interface name is  ?   enp3s something ?16:52
cihhaneth0 is enp0s31p616:52
nacccihhan: do you have a strong reason to change the naming? why do you specifically care?16:52
leftyfbnacc: legacy applications with hardcoded iface names :/16:53
naccleftyfb: oh goodness.16:53
cihhannacc: because i have legacy softwares that use the eth* namings and i cant change them all at this moment16:53
leftyfbyeah16:53
ioriacihhan, that ^ first you need a trick to restore the old naming16:53
leftyfbioria: I would say getting ifupdown working first if that's one of the end goals16:53
leftyfbioria: no sense in dealing with netplan configs if it's going away16:54
iorialeftyfb, yes16:54
ioriacihhan,  can you paste your *.yaml file ?16:54
naccbut netplan is unrelated to the network device naming; no need to remove it (afaict)16:54
leftyfbnacc: I agree, but not sure if there's another reason they want ifupdown16:55
ioriaGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0"16:55
leftyfbI personally prefer ifupdown :)16:55
leftyfbioria: we did that and it caused problems because they assumed ifupdown was working and changed the configs there16:55
iorialeftyfb, ah16:55
leftyfbioria: also, there's no network, so pasting configs requires sneakernetting16:55
cihhanioria: i have applied this now GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" and i still have internet16:56
nacccihhan: have you rebooted since?16:56
leftyfb:/16:56
cihhanbut when i have the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0", it completely fails16:56
cihhannacc, update-grub and reboot16:56
ioriacihhan,  do you have connection right now or not ?16:56
cihhansorry i made a mistake in my previous msg16:57
nacccihhan: those two sentences eem contradictory16:57
cihhani have this GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="netcfg/do_not_use_netplan=true" and i have internet16:57
cihhanwhen i have these GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0" i lose internet16:57
cihhanand 'ip link show' shows that all the ports are down16:58
ioriacihhan,  maybe because you did not chanhe netplan accordingly16:58
ioria*change16:58
cihhanlshw -c network shows that all the network devices are disabled16:58
ioriacihhan,  do you have connection right now or not ?16:58
leftyfbcihhan: you need to slow down16:58
leftyfbcihhan: you need to stop16:58
leftyfbcihhan: we cannot help you if you keep changing things without anyone suggesting the changes. We cannot keep troubleshooting a moving target16:59
leftyfbcihhan: it works like this, we suggest a change, you make change and confirm results. Then we work on another change together.16:59
cihhanleftyfb: this was something i have observed before. right now i just added GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="netcfg/do_not_use_netplan=true" and my device name is enp0s31f6 right now17:00
leftyfbcihhan: stop bringing up before. We're only working with right now17:00
leftyfbcihhan: did you update-grub?17:00
cihhanleftyfb: yes17:00
leftyfbcihhan: did you reboot?17:00
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cihhanleftyfb: yes17:00
leftyfbcihhan: ok then we focus on this one issue, nothing else. Do not change or mention anything else17:01
tony_anyone?17:01
leftyfb!ask | tony_17:01
ubottutony_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience17:01
oerheksnope, anyone is gone with everybody17:02
tony_wooo17:02
tony_fire17:02
leftyfbtony_: what ubuntu support question do you have?17:02
cihhanleftyfb: im listening to your suggestings17:02
tony_im just checking17:02
tony_im new to irc17:02
leftyfbcihhan: sudo grep netcfg /boot/grub/grub.cfg17:02
nacctony_: that's not the purpose of this channel :)17:03
leftyfbtony_: try #ubuntu-offtopic if you are interested in chatting17:03
leftyfbcihhan: do you get results?17:03
oerhekstip 1 : read the topic17:03
cihhanleftyfb: it shows netcfg/do_not_use_netplan=true (5 times)17:04
leftyfbok17:04
leftyfbcihhan: then looks like that grub config doesn't work. Have to come up with a different way to switch from netplan to ifupdown17:04
cihhanleftyfb: ok17:05
tony_is there android emulator other than anbox?17:05
mottehow do i switch between internal speakers and headphones when the headphone jack is plugged in? for some reason pacmd set-sink-port 0 analog-output-speaker is silent17:05
lotuspsychje!sound | motte start here17:06
ubottumotte start here: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.17:06
leftyfbcihhan: Unfortunately, I have yet to run 18.04 on any servers. I do not yet know the proper way to switch.17:06
leftyfbnacc: ? ioria ?17:07
ioriayep17:07
ioriacihhan,  do you have connection right now or not ?17:07
naccleftyfb: to switch from netplan to ifupdown? install ifupdown, remove the netplan config (it won't run if it's not configured), setup /e/n/i like usual, profit.17:07
cihhanioria: yes, i have17:07
tony_is there any android imulator other than anbox?17:07
leftyfbnacc: yeah, in my brief google, I found that to be the answer as well17:07
leftyfb!repeat | tony_17:08
ubottutony_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/17:08
ioriacihhan, and using netplan, right ?17:08
cihhanioria: im not sure. how can i double check?17:08
ioriacihhan,  ps -A | grep -i network17:08
ioriacihhan,  ps -A | grep -i network | pastebinit17:09
cihhanioria: it onyly has systemd-network and networkd-dispat17:09
ioriacihhan,  can't you use pastebinit ? for some reason ?17:10
cihhanlet me ssh to that computer then17:10
cihhanjust a sec17:10
ioriacihhan,  oh, it's a server ?17:10
ioriacihhan,  ubuntu server-edition  iso ,imean ?17:10
cihhanioria: yep, it s another machine. im just using my laptop for irc now17:10
MonkeyDusttony_  there are more than 400 people in the #android channel, better inform there17:11
cihhanioria: yes, it s ubuntu server 1817:11
ioriacihhan,  ps -A | grep -i network | pastebinit17:11
tony_how do i swich to gdm from lightdm?17:11
leftyfbtony_: why?17:12
ioriacihhan,  if it has default config, it should use netplan with systemd-netkord as renderer17:12
cihhanioria: here is the  result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2s6k8C357n/17:12
tony_im not liking the lightdm display manager17:12
tony_i prefer gdm17:12
tony_although im using unity rn17:12
soeeif im connected via ssh as sudo how can i run some command as www-data user ?17:13
leftyfbsoee: connected via ssh as sudo?17:13
leftyfbsoee: do you mean you ran "sudo su" after you ssh'd to a remote machine?17:13
leftyfbsoee: sudo su www-data (won't work if there's no shell for www-data)17:14
leftyfbsoee: why do you need to run some command as www-data?17:14
soeeim a user that has sudo power but i want to run command as www-data17:14
mottelotuspsychje: i dont think any of these pages contains an answer to my question. is it likely that switching to internal speakers while headphone jack is plugged in is impossible due to hardware? laptop is a T42017:14
cihhanioria: any suggestions?17:14
ioria_2cihhan, sorry. disconnected17:15
cihhanioria_2: no problem17:15
ioria_2cihhan, the url ?17:15
cihhanioria_2: sure, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2s6k8C357n/17:16
ioria_2cihhan,  cat /etc/netplan/*.yaml | pastebinit17:16
cihhanioria_2: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NwNk654pzx/17:17
ioria_2cihhan,  mmm... are you sure is server ?17:17
cihhanioria_2: yep, ubuntu 18.04 server17:18
cihhanioria_2: why?17:18
ioria_2cihhan, is the original or you changed it ?17:18
ioria_2cihhan, the yaml file,i mean17:19
cihhanioria_2: i just installed ifupdown and net-tools17:19
cihhanioria_2: i didnt touch it at all17:19
ioria_2cihhan, ok,confitm in 'ip a' that enp0s31f6 is your working and UP interface17:19
ioria_2*confirm17:20
cihhanioria_2: yes it shows it as UP17:20
CoolerZso far plasma is looking amazing17:20
CoolerZruns smoothly and looks really professional17:20
ioria_2cihhan,  cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit17:20
cihhanioria_2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PDBC9vwddn/17:20
cihhanioria_2: sure, just a sec17:20
cihhanioria_2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RbMXsHrDQm/17:21
CoolerZthis should just be the default17:21
ioria_2cihhan,  for now set that file with 'lo' and ' enp0s31f6' ststic or dhcp ... yuo know how ?17:22
cihhanioria_2: sure let me do it17:22
naccCoolerZ: that's nice that you have that opinion. You are welcome to use KDE if you like.17:22
cihhanioria_2: is this ok? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NdB2X2xsSh/17:24
ioria_2cihhan,  add dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8  (or whatever)17:25
eyeoh1.1.1.1 :)17:25
coconutCoolerZ: it is for some distro's...17:25
rushfor some reason my desktop icons have got huge17:25
eyeoheasier to type17:26
rushhow can i reset them thanks?17:26
cihhanioria_2: ok, i have added it too, shall i reboot or what?17:26
rushon ubuntu 1817:26
ioria_2cihhan,  nope, cd in /etc/netplan  and backup all your *.yaml files17:26
cihhanioria_2: ok, done17:27
ioria_2cihhan,  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf   (you can paste it in here)17:27
cihhanioria_2: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Apr 26 19:07 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf17:27
ioria_2cihhan,  now the hard part ....resolvconf is installed ?  dpkg-l | grep resolvconf17:28
cihhanioria_2: it seems not -- empty output17:29
cihhanioria_2: can you give me a min, brb17:29
ioria_2cihhan,  oknp17:29
coconutIs https the default these days with apt? (i cannot check at the moment)17:31
nacccoconut: no.17:32
leftyfbcoconut: the default ubuntnu repo's are not configured as https by default17:32
cihhanioria_2: ok im back -- so what shall i do next?17:33
ioria_2cihhan,  ifupdown is installed,right ?17:33
cihhanioria_2: yep, it s installed17:34
ioria_2cihhan,  ok,   systemd-resolved is running now ?17:35
ioria_2cihhan,  ps -A | grep resolv17:35
coconutI was just thinking though... is there much to encrypt when deb's are binaries?17:35
cihhanioria_2: yes, it is running17:35
ioria_2cihhan,  sudo apt install resolvconf17:36
cihhanioria_2: Package 'resolvconf' has no installation candidate17:36
ioria_2!info resolvconf17:37
ubotturesolvconf (source: resolvconf): name server information handler. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.79ubuntu10 (bionic), package size 47 kB, installed size 183 kB17:37
ioria_2cihhan,  do you have universe enabled ?17:37
cihhanmost prob not, when i search it doesnt show anything17:37
coconutoh, filenames off course, well..17:37
ioria_2cihhan, check /etc/apt/sources.list17:38
ioria_2but on server should be enabled17:38
cihhanioria_2: they are not commented17:38
cihhanioria_2: for ex., deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic universe17:39
ioria_2cihhan,  can you paste it ?17:39
cihhanioria_2: ok installing it now, i needed apt update first17:39
cihhanioria_2: installed17:40
ioria_2cihhan,  ok17:40
ioria_2cihhan,  sudo systemctl stop systemd-resolved17:40
cihhanioria_2: ok stopped it17:40
jefrihi17:41
ioria_2cihhan,  sudo systemctl disable systemd-resolved17:41
rushhow to resize desktop icons?17:41
cihhanioria_2: ok, removed the service now, disabled17:41
jefri0101010010101001010101017:41
ioria_2cihhan,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf   (here i cannot help you, be intuitive :þ)17:41
jefriada orang goblok disini?17:42
cihhanioria_2: ok, reconfigured and this it the output resolvconf-pull-resolved.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.17:42
leftyfbjefri: can we help you with somrthing?17:42
jefriyeah17:42
coconutIs there any management tool to check hash sums of files every some days?17:43
leftyfbah, it's MR_Sp0ngeBoB17:43
cihhanioria_2: i have a question though. right now i have internet and it is working all fine. i think the issue is regarding to the naming change17:43
leftyfbshocker, with u0_a121 as the ident17:43
cihhanioria_2: but im listening to you17:43
ioria_2cihhan,  we need an  /etc/resolv.conf  like this  '-> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf'17:44
jefrican you teach me about "opencv" on cam live multi-colour?17:44
ioria_2cihhan,  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf17:44
leftyfbjefri: /join #opencv17:44
cihhanioria_2: here, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Jun 29 17:42 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf17:44
ioria_2ok17:44
jefrioh salah masuka aku ternyata17:45
jefrimaap ye17:45
jefri:D17:45
ioria_2cihhan,  now ,you should have a working  /e/n/i   without netplan ...17:45
cihhanioria_2: ok17:45
leftyfbjefri: English only17:45
cihhanioria_2: how about the eth0 problem?17:45
ioria_2cihhan,  eth0 vs enp0s31f6 is something different ...17:46
ioria_2cihhan,  reboot17:46
iuaU2DAMR45QzpSpubuntu 17.10 shows a ad-hoc type network every time I enable wireless. I created this network a long while ago, but I can not find it in the list of networks in order to delete it and stop it from happening17:46
cihhanioria_2: sure17:46
ioria_2cihhan,  it's the predictable naming17:46
iuaU2DAMR45QzpSpis there some config file somewhere for the networkmanager config?17:46
cihhanioria_2: ok, rebooted17:48
cihhanand it s workign with static ip now17:48
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ioria_2cihhan,  good job ...now  cat /etc/default/grub | pastebinit17:48
cihhanioria_2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZxYm8mbMmn/17:49
ioria_2cihhan,  comment this line : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="netcfg/do_not_use_netplan=true"17:51
cihhanok17:51
ioria_2cihhan,  uncomment this : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" and add in quotes : net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=017:52
cihhanioria_2: what s next?17:52
cihhanioria_2: ok done17:53
ioria_2paste it again, please17:53
cihhanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HcrbGmNvdp/17:53
cihhanioria_2: here http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HcrbGmNvdp/17:53
ioria_2cihhan,  what is "maybe-ubiquity"  ?17:55
cihhanioria_2: i believe that it came by itself. i didnt put it there, so i didnt touch ut17:55
ioria_2cihhan,  ok, sudo update-grub17:55
cihhanioria_2: done17:56
ioria_2cihhan,  now, you should have ,when rebooted, the  old interface names ,but not sure it will be eth0 because you have a lot of nics17:56
cihhanioria_2: we ll see :-) let s test :-D17:57
ioria_2cihhan,  ok17:57
cihhanioria_2: right now none of them are active, no internert17:58
memphistoioria_2, cihhan: couldn't you edit udev rules only,thats if you have small number of machines17:58
memphistosorry eth devices17:58
ioria_2cihhan,  check 'ip a'17:58
cihhanmemphisto: for going back to eth naming?17:59
cihhanioria_2: all are showing down (though the names are ethX)17:59
ioria_2cihhan,  sure ... you nee  to change /etc/network/interfaces17:59
ioria_2cihhan,  with the right(new name18:00
cihhanioria_2: sure im doing it now18:00
ioria_2cihhan, is eth0 or what ?18:00
cihhanbut since the cable is connected, it should have shown up as far as i know18:00
cihhanioria_2: yes, eth018:00
ioria_2cihhan, good, change enpxxx with eth018:01
memphistocihhan: in udev rules you can name it what ever you like18:01
jefrihi18:01
jefriwhere are you from all?18:01
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cihhanioria_2: all of them are down. it got the static ip but no internet, 0 packet transfer18:02
jefri.18:02
jefri.18:02
jefri.18:02
jefri.18:02
jefri.18:02
cihhanmemphisto: hmmm. maybe instead of changing the grub conf, i should check that.18:02
ioria_2cihhan, did you edit /e/n/i  ?18:02
cihhanioria_2: yes18:02
ioria_2cihhan, have you rebooted ?18:02
naccjefri: this channel is not for general chitchat, please stop.18:03
cihhanioria_2: it got the static ip for eth0 but it s not active18:03
cihhanioria_2: yes i rebooted too18:03
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ioria_2cihhan,  sudo  ifconfig eth0 up18:03
cihhanioria_2: it was already showing with ifconfig. but i did again. and still not internet18:04
nacccihhan: is the link showing as active?18:04
nacc`ip link` iirc18:04
ioria_2cihhan,  ping 8.8.8.818:04
cihhanioria_2: no internet18:05
cihhannacc: kernel panic, let me reboot18:05
cihhanjust a sec18:05
ioria_2cihhan,  paste 'ifconfig'18:05
naccuh...18:05
naccspontaneous kernel panic?18:05
cihhannacc yeah... weird.18:06
cihhanit s saying no network (during boot up_) waiting 30 sec now18:06
cihhannacc: all of them are down, nothing is up18:06
nacccihhan: are you still getting the device down issues in dmesg?18:06
naccs/issues/messages/18:06
cihhannacc: yes, it s still showing it18:07
cihhaneth0 pcie link list, device now detached18:07
naccright, so i still believe your hardware is faulty/mis-seated18:08
naccthe pcie link should not be going up/down18:08
cihhannacc: but it works when i use the default naming of ubuntu. it fails when i go to ethX naming18:08
ioria_2cihhan,  paste 'ifconfig' please18:08
cihhanioria_2: there is no internet so i cant paste anything18:09
ioria_2ok18:09
cihhanbut all the RX TX packets are 018:09
cihhanioria_2: even though the eth lights are blinking, the packets are all 018:09
ioria_2cihhan,  dmesg what says ?18:09
ioria_2cihhan,  dmesg | grep eth018:10
cihhanthe last thing is igb 000:03:00.0 eth0: PCIe link lost, device now detached18:10
cihhanit says added, then eth0: PBA NO Unknown18:11
cihhanioria_2: then eth0 link is not ready18:11
cihhanand18:11
cihhanioria_2: this is the last msg igb 000:03:00.0 eth0: PCIe link lost, device now detached18:11
naccit's not clear to me if you gave your device long enough while "it worked" with the default naming for it to fail18:12
naccif it's a PCI bus issue, or a mis-seated card18:12
ioria_2cihhan,  your kernel ? uname -r18:13
xirghow can i join a ubuntu machine to windows domain18:14
cihhanioria_2: 4.15.0-23-generic18:14
naccxirg: samba18:15
cihhannacc: i have no idea as well, i have been trying to understand it all night long....18:15
nacccihhan: do you actually need 18.04?18:15
nacccihhan: why not just install 16.04 with the appropriate grub options to change bios device naming?18:15
cihhannacc: unfortuantely yes... the network card seems to be working for only 1818:16
ioria_2cihhan,  and that nic, what  is that ? lspci -k | grep -i ethe -A 318:16
rushanyone free to help me?18:17
nacccihhan: it's very strange, as the device name should be fully transparent to the device, it seems like a rather unfortunate bug18:17
cihhanioria_2: it shows Intel I21118:17
cihhankernel driver in use: igb18:17
nacchttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144263818:18
ioria_2cihhan,  iirc you have several cards...18:18
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1442638 in kernel "igb ... PCIe link lost, device now detached, but reloading the igb module fixes things" [Unspecified,New]18:18
naccfunny18:18
nacccihhan: can you try `sudo modprobe -r igb; sleep 1; sudo modprobe igb` ?18:19
ioria_2cihhan,  ^ nacc ,try to reload18:19
cihhannvm checksum is not valud. pcie link lost, device now detached18:19
naccuh18:20
nacccihhan: that implies a firmware error, i think18:20
nacc"nvm checksum is not valid" ?18:20
cihhannacc: heck...18:20
ioria_2cihhan,  i'd rename  eth0 with enpxxx, change /etc/default/grub; sudo update-grub,reboot and paste lspci -k   lol18:21
nacchttps://sourceforge.net/p/e1000/mailman/e1000-devel/ has some people reporting similar stuff too18:21
ioria_2brb18:21
cihhannacc: the fun part is i have 3 of these machines and 2 of them are like this. the other one is working fine. and i have no idea why the working one is working.... everything is the same from my side. but it seems not from their side.18:22
nacccihhan: have you checked they all are at the same fimrware level?18:23
cihhannacc: that s a good idea, let me try to check that18:23
cihhanany suggestion on how i can check it18:23
cihhan?18:23
nacccihhan: sudo ethtool -i, i think18:24
nacccihhan: passing the device name18:24
cihhanok18:25
cihhanlet me connect the other machine and let me test18:25
cihhannacc: here is the weird thing again. ip link show shows ethX18:29
cihhanand when i write ethtool -i eth0 it says cannot get driver information: no such device18:29
cihhanthe one working shows it fine though18:29
cihhannacc: any idea?18:32
cihhannacc, ioria: any suggestions?18:36
ioriacihhan, what i missed ?18:36
cihhanioria: nacc suggested that i should check the ethtool -i eth0 to get the driver info18:36
cihhanfor the one failing, it says that there is no such a device18:36
ioriasure18:37
cihhaneven though ip link show lists them as ethX18:37
pankajI have successfully installed virtual box guest additions now and checked with lsmod but it is still not working.18:37
ioriacihhan,  do we know the exact model name of this nic ?18:37
cihhanioria: how can i learn it?18:37
cihhanlspci?18:37
ioriayes18:37
cihhanioria: lshw -c network shows me Intel Ethernet Connection I219-LM18:40
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cihhanthis one is for the connected port18:40
cihhanthe other ports show I211 for example18:41
ioriacihhan,  have you tried to unlodad and reload the module with -v flag ?18:41
cihhanioria: nope, i just tried modprobe -r igb and modprobe igb18:43
ioriacihhan,  no output ?18:43
cihhanlet me try now but i had to restart it -- it says 5 min wai to raise network interfaces18:44
aneedhHi I am using pepper mint and want to learn if there is a Wifi hotspot program available?18:44
aneedhare there any wifi hotspot programs available for linux?18:46
pankajI have successfully installed virtual box guest additions now and checked with lsmod but it is still not working.18:47
nacccihhan: sorry,m was afk for a bit18:50
Bashing-omaneedh: Best asked in the ##linux channel :)18:51
pankajHello, Is anybody listening me here?18:53
naccpankaj: yes, are you going to ask the saem question you just asked in #ubuntu-server?18:54
pankajnacc: But I am not getting any answer from that channel that is why I am asking here.18:54
CarlFKcihhan: can you cut/pastebin the outputs of the commands you are running?18:55
pankajnacc: The '.VboxLinux....run' package installed successfully at last and when I rebooted it is still the same.18:55
pankajnacc: Is their any answer to it or not?18:59
oerheksoh you didn't use Vbox in softwarecenter, that comes with DKMS ?18:59
memphistocihhan: can you list content of your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules18:59
pankajoerheks: To me?19:00
oerhekspankaj, yes19:00
pankajoerheks:19:00
pankajoerheks: I installed dkms, build-essential, linux-headers-generic, linux-headers-$(uname -r) before running the executable of VboxGuest additions iso19:02
memphistoaneedh: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu-16-04-android-supported/19:02
pankajoerheks: And I am using ubuntu server 14.(I do not know other numbers ....) and I have not installed any GUI19:04
cihhanmemphisto: i dont have that file. i just have 70-snap.core.rules19:09
cihhanmemphisto: and it is really long.19:09
ioriacihhan,  you could try another card, goot totest if it's hw related19:11
pankajoerheks: Sorry, I was disconnected. My mistake. So, is their any solution to this problem?19:11
memphistocihhan: have you pasted ip link output19:11
cihhanmemphisto: since there is no internet, i couldnt19:11
memphistocihhan: can't you take a picture and share via ...some sites19:12
cihhanbut they are basically all showing mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 100019:12
ioriacihhan,  still on ssh on physically on the server ?19:13
cihhanmemphisto: sure, if you want. i can do it, but this is all it shows19:13
cihhanioria: physically since there is no internet19:13
iorialol19:13
cihhanmemphisto: do you want the photo?19:14
pankajoerheks: Please tell. If solution does not exist please tell.19:15
memphistocihhan: yes, i'd like to see what interfaces you have19:15
ioriacihhan,  confirm  lshw -c Network is  :   'Ethernet Connection (2) I219-LM' ?19:15
cxc99what is the best way to install the vbox guest additions for ubuntu?19:16
cihhanioria: yes it s correct19:16
ioriacihhan, so maybe wrong mosule ... i'am reading it uses e1000e19:17
nacc!info virtualbox-guest-additions-iso | cxc9919:17
ubottucxc99: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (source: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso): guest additions iso image for VirtualBox. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 5.2.11-122181-1 (bionic), package size 38042 kB, installed size 56634 kB19:17
cxc99yes but u don't have to install the iso, can't you use install vbox-guest-additions-dkms/x11?19:17
cxc99i tried it, but for some reason the x11 ones have to be reinstalled after updating19:17
nacccxc99: no such packages in ubuntu19:19
cihhanioria: this has been a good amount of headache...19:20
ioriabe strong19:20
ioriacihhan, sudo modpobe -r igb && sudo modprobe  e1000e19:21
naccioria: interesting19:22
iorianacc, don't pay atention to me19:22
cxc99virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-dkms19:23
cxc99those are all in ubuntu 18.04 LTS19:23
cihhanioria: what else after that point?19:23
ioriacihhan, the output ?19:23
cihhanioria: it didnt show anything19:23
nacccxc99: that wasn't the package name you said earlier19:24
nacccxc99: yes, i guess you can just install those pacakges19:24
ioriacihhan, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup -v eth019:24
nacccxc99: i've never once had a need to install virtualbox, sorry19:25
cihhanioria: but almost all the other eths have disapperad19:25
cihhanioria: just oneleft19:25
cxc99well virtualbox is kinda crap but it's what we got so19:25
cihhanioria: it says cant find the device19:26
oerheksmaybe you mixed guest additions from the oracle site, and vbox from our repos, no clue there... and how would you manage vbox guests?19:26
eyeohit's another day, at ubuntu support19:27
ioriacihhan, wrong turn19:27
oerheksin #ubuntu-server you said something about 'techrepublic.com' with topic 'how to install virtualbox guest additions on ubuntu server', care to explain what you exaclty installed??19:27
cxc99no i was trying to use those packages to install the guest additions but like i said when i do a dist-upgrade, the display driver doesn't resize19:27
cxc99unless i reinstall the x11 package...just wondering if i'm doing something wrong19:27
naccoerheks: unless they changed nicks, that's a different user19:28
oerheksi know, replied to pankaj19:29
ioriacihhan, sudo modprobe -r e1000e  && sudo modprobe  igb19:29
oerhekssorry, should use names more19:29
cihhanioria: now it shows pcie link lost, device now deteched19:33
ioriacihhan, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup -v eth019:33
cihhanthe nv, checksum is not valid19:33
iorianv ?19:34
cihhanioria: sorry nvm19:34
vlstvhi19:35
muhahaCan anyone help? I can not run alpine 3.8 from images.linuxcontainer.org https://thepasteb.in/p/k5hYRQA2mG0UE , alpine 3.7 is ok. Any idea?19:37
ioriacihhan, so,we can say that your nic 's not working with the old interface names ?19:37
cihhanioria: yep that seems to be the case.. unfortunately19:38
ioriasorry about that19:38
naccmuhaha: i think you want #lxcontainers19:38
oerheksmuhaha, we have no control over alpine images19:38
muhahaah.ok.19:38
cihhanioria: which is extremely weird to me... but anyways19:38
ioriacihhan, same here19:39
cihhanioria: thank you very much for all your help though19:39
ioriacihhan, no problem19:39
ioriacihhan, do you have by any chance an nvidia card ?19:43
Raywtf bitch19:44
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cihhanioria: nope19:44
ioriacihhan, nvm19:44
Guest29066dafuq19:44
oerhekswrong channel Guest2906619:44
pragmaticenigma!ohmy | Guest2906619:45
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kubast2yo20:05
kubast2I'm in netinstall20:05
kubast2how can I wifi-menu/pick my wifi network20:05
kubast2I really don't want to downlod the whole iso20:05
pragmaticenigmakubast2: It is recommended that if you are using the network install method that you use ethernet. WiFi connections are not reliable and the install will take much longer20:06
kubast2I mean I have 30Mb/s anyway ,and my router doesn't limit it in any shape or form20:07
kubast2If I had something like an Fiber -To -The -Home with at least 50-100 mbps maybe20:07
kubast2pragmaticenigma, I doubt it but maybe idk20:07
pragmaticenigmakubast2: This isn't a place to debate network topology. i'm offering a suggestion.20:08
kubast2not really feelin like hooking my pc to a router so I'm jsut gonna download full iso20:08
kubast2pragmaticenigma, windows trashed itself for me today and I think I have now bad blocks on my hdd :shrug:20:11
kubast2jeez the bios lagged so hard20:11
kubast2so that will take awhile until dd zeros my  hdd anyway20:12
pavloskubast2: boot off a usb stick and use gparted to clean up your hdd20:13
pragmaticenigmakubast2: If switching from windows to full on linux, there is no reason to zero out the drive. If there are bad sectors, they will not be repaired. If it's corrupted data, Linux does not use the NTFS file system, it will overwrite the data with the new disk format20:13
kubast2pragmaticenigma, I can't format the hard drive without dmesg getting full of failed writes20:14
kubast2at least on arch20:14
kubast2I tried to boot my /home partition that I left out before comming back to windows20:15
kubast2and it was shredded20:15
kubast2it mounted but not much else20:15
kubast2folders unaccesibble etc20:15
kubast2and mkfs.ext4 takes over an hour to complete(just stopped the process)20:15
kubast2or smthn I'm not really knowledgable enough to tell whether those were failed drives20:16
kubast2checked and the hdd sits on tight20:16
pavloskubast2: can you fsck -y partition (of /home)?20:16
kubast2pavlos, haven't tried that yet but I allready stopped mkfs in a middle of a format so20:17
pragmaticenigmaThe dmesg errors are from physical issues with the disk... dd'ing the drive isn't going to do anything20:17
pavloskubast2: your /home may be /dev/hdd5 and fsck -y /dev/hdd5 may clean it20:18
pragmaticenigmapavlos: they haven't installed Ubuntu yet, they're in the process of starting20:19
kubast2pragmaticenigma, doesn't it like force the drive to rellocate those sectors?20:19
kubast2the hdd is barerlly 1 month old so20:19
pragmaticenigmakubast2: no, dd will quit if there are physical errors20:19
pavlospragmaticenigma: earlier he mentioned /home is shredded20:19
kubast2ah I thought all bad blocks are physical20:19
kubast2pavlos, yeah ntfs partition is fine20:19
pragmaticenigmakubast2: I should rephrase... dd will work so long as the firmware on the drive handles the reallocation of bad sectors silently... blocks are a feature of the disk file system format, not the physical drive20:20
kubast2there always is ultimatebootcd with hdd manufacturers tools20:21
rush_can u see my message?20:21
kubast2now yes20:21
pavloskubast2: so you have a disk with ntfs partitions (fine) and ext4 (corrupt). Is that the summary?20:22
kubast2yup20:22
kubast2and it did so under windows :shrug:20:22
kubast2was readable before20:22
kubast2the whole windows like trashed for me tho20:23
kubast2I think the reboot after bsod was taking quiet a while to get passed the login screen20:23
kubast2but my windows install was on ssd and on 2nd reboot it worked fine sort of an didn't checked files on ssd20:24
kubast2but after I wiped it on arch the bios "speed" up a bit20:24
pragmaticenigmakubast2: I apologize, I was operating under the assumption you had a corrupt windows installation, and were converting to Ubuntu... Did you have a driver installed on Windows to Read/Write to the Ubuntu/Linux partition you had setup before?20:25
kubast2nope20:25
kubast2I use ntfs partition on hdd as a gateway to exchange files beetween windows and linux20:25
kubast2I put there anything I want to be shared20:26
eyeohI've done that before; eventually I turned it into an ext4 partition, which now still contains an "ntfs" folder20:28
kubast2my 6ix sense tells me that I needleslly added thermal paste under the long die on cpu20:29
kubast2albeit it didn't crashed during prime9520:30
kubast2like the heatsink in my laptop has a cutoff20:30
kubast2where one of the dies has a longer"route" to the heatsink20:30
kubast2and I just added in more paste because I didn't remembered whether the die had any paste so I rather have it in20:30
kubast2so yeah there's hat20:31
eyeohkubast2: https://i.redd.it/xd00wmyvvfhy.jpg20:31
kubast2https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1bZuJSpXXXXXkaXXXq6xXFXXXo/Intel-core-I5-7200U-SR2ZU-SR342-FJ8067702739739.jpg_350x350.jpg20:32
kubast2that's a wrong pic20:32
kubast2tbh20:32
kubast2but like the middle die is a bit shorter20:32
kubast2and a square20:32
kubast2and the other die is smaller in width20:32
kubast2and a bit longer20:32
kubast2so that die is connected via thermal paste to heatpipe20:33
eyeohI don't understand file systems and partitions - I mean I sort of know how to stumble my way around, but these days I just count on stuffing it up and needing to restore from backup20:33
kubast2yeh20:33
kubast2next time gonna put some on my external20:34
eyeohI rarely encourage dual boots from the same drive20:34
kubast2lz4 -9 /dev/disk /hdd/file.lz420:34
eyeohit's just more hassle than it's worth compared to putting something fresh on a clean empty drive20:34
kubast2I usually single boot tbh20:34
kubast2I make backup of windows partition20:34
eyeohThere are probably elegant solutions to fix your issue but honestly, I personally wouldn't have the time for it and would just go to the backup20:35
kubast2yeh but windows boots fast enough now20:35
kubast2but I will install linux anyway20:35
eyeohIt's entirely up to your own goals20:36
kubast2cause there is something wrong with nvidia driver/freq scalling under windows20:36
kubast2yeh20:36
kubast2I want to game so I will do linux20:36
kubast2cpu/gpu scalling isnt broken :shrug:20:36
eyeohwhat I've learned about dual booting or running different OSs is that to focus, you need to dedicate as much hardware as you can at it; which generally means avoiding dual booting and just getting a second cheap drive (be it external or internal)20:37
eyeohit was different 20 years ago when there was no such thing as booting from USB20:38
eyeoh(make sure it's at least USB 3.0)20:38
kubast2anyways how stable is btrfs? I usually used ext4 but that dedup and zstd compress is sorta tempting20:38
kubast2yeh I know20:38
kubast2for /rootfs20:38
eyeohI've only ever dealt with ext2, ext4 and fat/ntfs20:39
kubast2well ubuntu iso almost done downloadin20:40
kubast2good thing I have a backup laptop20:40
amine__DZhi, I'm trying ubuntu 18.04, I'm using AZERY keyboard and I'm using Arabic and french layouts, when Arabic layout is activated pressing CTRL+A (select all) closes some applications (like TODO), other application I think it behaves like CTRL+Q (as my keyboard is AZERTY). is there a solution?20:40
kubast2comrest arrest that was the dmesg btw20:45
niekniekhello all! What’s the proper way of configuring bridging for kvm on ubuntu 18.04? https://www.hiroom2.com/2018/05/08/ubuntu-1804-bridge-en/, which one to choose?20:51
niekniekI’ve tried to set it up with bridge-utils, but it simply doesn’t work…20:53
naccniekniek: those are all out of date20:53
naccniekniek: netplan is the default on ubuntu 18.04, not ifupdown20:54
naccniekniek: although if you're on desktop, 3/4 may work20:54
nieknieknacc: thx, so https://askubuntu.com/questions/971126/17-10-netplan-config-with-bridge?20:54
naccniekniek: 5/6 may as well, but not standard20:54
naccniekniek: probably20:54
naccniekniek: there is a #netplan as well20:54
niekniekin /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml: Let NetworkManager manage all devices on this system20:56
naccniekniek: so it's a desktop?20:57
niekniekguess so ;)20:57
niekniekI forgot...20:57
naccniekniek: .. how do you not know?20:57
niekniekI do all kinds of stuff...20:58
naccniekniek: that's not really an answer20:59
naccniekniek: in any case, then follow 3/4 from that site20:59
niekniekI just did, rebooting now20:59
niekniekwhy is there a difference between server and desktop distros?20:59
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naccniekniek: not sure what you mean.20:59
naccniekniek: network manager is a GUI tool used on desktop21:00
naccniekniek: server has no GUI by default21:00
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nieknieksure, but most of the times a gui is just a frontend for a command line tool21:00
nieknieknmcli in this case, which would run fine on a server21:00
naccno21:01
naccniekniek: nmcli is a cli tool to the backend service21:01
naccniekniek: your assumptions are false, please read a bit about it21:01
ilhvfsI like ubuntu21:05
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nieknieknacc, it works, thx21:09
naccniekniek: yw21:09
niekniekbtw, what would you guys consider the best remote desktop solution on Linux?21:10
niekniekCurrently using thinlinc, works pretty nice21:10
kubast2_Guys I just installed ubuntu21:21
kubast2_Got blanking "-"21:21
kubast2_What do I do?21:21
kubast2_Bios install21:22
kubast2_Wait am I retarted what if I have hdd boot set21:22
kubast2_And an old grub install pointer21:22
itchhei guys. sooo .. i did a VERY stupid thing. tried to install 18.04 and accidentally selected the wrong drive to install / , and it also had "format partition" option. realized after about 10s and aborted everything, but was a bit too late. partition info was already overwritten and now it appears as empty. I know the stuff it's still there, but how I can recover the journal ?21:22
naccitch: you don't know the stuff is still there, but you should look into various disk rescue options21:23
itchor .. you know. rebuilt the partition info ?21:23
kubast2_You didn't almost install 2 / paritions though lmao21:23
itchnacc, i do know. you can`'t really wipe 4Tb in 10 secs :)21:23
kubast2_so like u did better than me if I didn't realise my mistake21:23
naccitch: you can wipe enough that the partition can be unrecoverable. But in any case, do what I said.21:24
itchi can probably recover it file by file, but that's like some many hundreds of GB of photos, all out of name / folder structure ..21:24
itchany way i can rebuilt partition ?21:25
itchi know about supernodes backups spread across partion21:25
itchbuuut .. is it safe to be used? cuz the way I see it, probably all supernodes were recreated when the new partition was created ..21:26
pavlositch: there is a progrma called testdisk to recover data21:26
itchmhm21:26
itchthat's what i'm running at this very moment21:27
itchthing is, my partition was not damaged. a new one was written over.21:27
itchat least .. the partition info21:27
itchso .. now i'm doing a deep scan with testdisk. but 4Tb is't gonna take a while.21:28
naccitch: i think you are confusing partition with filesystem21:28
naccitch: the issue is if the filesystem was already created, typically21:28
itchnacc, yes. you are right. my bad21:28
itch..i think21:29
itchi mean, before, the partion was exactly the same (size wise), using the same FS21:29
itchext421:29
itchit was just ... re-created21:29
itchdunno if it's the correct term21:29
itchso i figure, unless ubunt install it's doing a all-zeroing on a hdd when creating / formatting a partition, changes are good that that the stuff it's still there21:31
itch*chances21:32
FurretUberHi, how do I disable all shadows using xfwm4? I would like to keep the compositor on but disable the shadows but GNOME applications (gnome-disks, baobab, gedit, etc) are ignoring xfwm4 settings and create shadows around the windows21:35
vltHello. On Ubuntu 16.04 MATE I just got a message which translates to “too little space”. Does anyone know what that means? Too little to do what?21:35
FurretUberAs if GNOME application ignored the xfwm4 setting21:35
coconutitch: if the filesystem is the same as it was before doing this, and no partitions were changed in size; then probably only "some part" of the data has been formatted i guess.21:35
itchwell, i am hoping that it was a quick format ...21:36
coconutor i am not seeing something right...21:36
coconutitch: that i do not now, but yes that would recover better21:37
coconut*know21:37
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itchhmmm. here's another stupid question. any way to check timestamp / when a certain superblock was created?21:43
Bashing-omvlt: what shows ' df -h ; df -i ' ? to see where the disk/Inodes space is .22:10
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qwebirc57041Hi, I'm using pbis-open to connect to my windows domain. Authentication works etc. However applications installed via "ubuntu software" (snapd) seem to be pretty unhappy. I get all sorts of apparmor=DENIED listed in system logs. Ex:22:21
qwebirc57041apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/snap/core/4830/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine"22:21
qwebirc57041apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/snap/core/4830/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" name="/home/local/AD/" pid=12681 comm="snap-confine" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1958741078 ouid=022:21
qwebirc57041Anyone got any ideas?22:25
badrabb1tqwebirc57041: possible solution here https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/ubuntu-18-04-fresh-install-apparmor-blocking-slack-spotify-and-vscode/5245/222:29
qwebirc57041badrabb1t: you are my hero :) that did the trick!22:34
tomreynitch: i'd say superblocks are created by the time the file system is created / modified (structurally, i.e. resize). if you'd like to inquire each superblock about when the FS was created, you can do this:  BLOCKDEV=/dev/vg/home; for SUPERBLOCK in $(dumpe2fs $BLOCKDEV | grep -Eo 'superblock at [0-9]+' | cut -d' ' -f3); do echo "[ $SUPERBLOCK ] $(dumpe2fs -h -o superblock=$SUPERBLOCK $BLOCKDEV 2>/dev/null | awk -F: '/^Filesystem created:/ {print22:44
tomreyn$2}')"; done22:44
tomreynbut i'm not sure that's what you actaully want ;)22:45
itchyeah, me neither :)22:45
ppfwhat do you want22:45
itchi keep reading about ext4 / inods /blocks :P22:45
tomreynitch: what are you trying to do?22:45
itchtomreyn, TLDR: re-reated my ext4 partition (from ubuntu install menu).22:46
itchnow all my files are "gone"22:46
itchtrying to recover them22:46
tomreynwas it set to "format"?22:47
itch*re-created22:47
itchmhm :(22:47
itchit only run for about ~10 sec before realizing ..22:47
tomreynwas the partition created at the same spot where you previously had a partition of the same size with an ext journalling file system?22:48
itchyup22:48
itchsame partition size (entire hdd) and same FS, ext422:48
tomreynthen the old superblocks will have bene overwritten, since they'd be on the same blocks. but, maybe the latter ones have not been overwritten withing the 10 s22:48
itchi'm trying to figure out a way to check which superblocks backups are older22:49
itchmaybe i can restore from them22:49
itchso far .. i've got this: https://pastebin.com/GAQx7RaR22:50
itchnot much progress since22:50
phelixI just installed Ubuntu 18. When changing workspaces it only moves the primary window. How can I get it to update all the monitors? I currently have 2 monitors22:57
phelixAnyone able to help?23:02
oerheksphelix, systems settings does not have that option, gnome-tweak-tool does, GTT > workspaces > display handling23:02
oerheks!info gnome-tweak-tool23:02
ubottugnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweaks): adjust advanced settings for GNOME - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB23:02
phelixThey removed this feature in 18? I used to work in Ubuntu 1623:02
qwebirc46603does ubuntu have keyboard shortcut for on screen keyboard?23:04
hggdhphelix: there is not 18 (or 16) version of Ubuntu. There are 16.04, 16.10, 18.04, and 18.10 (still in dev)23:04
phelixI am on 18.0423:04
phelixWhen I was on 16.04 when I hit ctrl+alt and up or down arrow all my monitors changed not just the primary one23:05
hggdhphelix: it is still the same, but you can check (and re-assign if you want) going to Settings/Devices/Keyboard23:05
tomreynitch: did you try my command, though? this should indeed help you identify old super blocks (from the previous file system) if those are at the same place where the new ones would have been placed, and they have not been overwritten, yet.23:06
phelixI don't understand.23:06
phelixI am just trying to enable both monitors to change when I change my workspace23:06
phelixI used to be able to set workspaces to the left and right as well as top and bottom. Seems only top and bottom now?23:06
hggdhphelix: go to Settings/Devices/Keyboard. Look at the keyboard shrotcuts there. Verify they are the way you want, and adjust if not23:07
tomreynitch: that's if the list my command outputs provides different FS creation dates, then you'd be able to use those superblocks which refer to an older creation date to recover.23:07
matlockwouldn't 16.04 been unity, 18.04 gnome?23:07
hggdhphelix: Gnome as installed only provides a vertical sequence of WS23:07
phelixhmm interesting.23:07
hggdhphelix: you will need to install an extension to get a matrix of workspaces23:08
itchtomreyn, nop. trying it now ..23:09
phelixDont remember having to do that before. Are there any extensions that allow for this?23:09
hggdhphelix: the one I use is Workspace Grid  . Go to https://extensions.gnome.org/local/ and select the extensions you would want to have23:09
hggdhphelix: 16.04 used Unity as the DE. 18.04 uses Gome now23:09
phelixohh. That must be what happened.23:09
qwebirc46603my on screen keyboard is not working. what to do?23:09
* oerheks mumbles gnome-tweak-tool23:09
tomreynitch: be sure to adjust BLOCKDEV to point to the right partition (or backup thereof)23:10
hggdhphelix: ^ gnome-tweak-tool :-)23:10
hggdhoerheks: heh, thanks.23:10
oerheksqwebirc46603, if enabled, space with your mouse on an empty place would activate, or bottom.23:10
itchmhm. i was looking at it now23:10
phelixhggdh, I installed that. IT moves both monitors now. But on the Activities when it shows hte monitors I can't drag any apps to the other monitor23:11
phelixhggdh, Why does it want me to download based on shell version.. I am using ZSH not bash.23:11
hggdhphelix: if you want to drag a window to another WS, I *think* it is Ctrl-Shift-arrow23:12
hggdhphelix: it is probably talking about *Gnome* shell, not a terminal shell23:12
phelixDef not ctrl-shift-arrow23:13
phelixahh ok23:13
qwebirc46603oerheks: I don't understand. Clicking empty text field does nothing23:13
hggdh<shrug/> that is the key sequence I use23:13
hggdhphelix: again, you can change the keyboard shortcuts to whatever you want23:14
oerheksor maybe part of gnome-shell-extensions23:14
itchtomreyn, the command worked. but apparently all superblocks were re-written23:14
itchthanks anyway23:14
hggdhoerheks: yeah, I am not an expert on Gnome anymore23:14
oerheksmaybe your fix is just to make those 2 displays as 1, in systemsettings - devices- displays23:14
oerhekshggdh, yeah, lots of tweak stuff around, sudo apt install gnome-shell-extensions available in gnome-tweak-tool after install, and wants to push back to gnome-classic.23:16
oerheksbut that could easily be fixed at login23:16
phelixoerheks, I tried that. It only shows on a single monitor when I do that.23:17
oerheksi think one needs to logout/login after installing gnome tweak23:17
phelixIs it possible to have the top bar on all monitors. Annoying when an app is on one monitor to have to go to the other monitor to get to menu settings.23:18
oerheksmaybe there is a setting in one of the tools, or a dconf tweak23:20
oerheksubuntu 18.04 zsh23:24
YounderI am having install problems with the nvidia cuda libs from their repository. (cuda 9) Unresolved dependencies. It is affecting my ability to update my software. Suggestions?23:28
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minthi all23:41
mintim callin from new mint 1923:41
oerheksmint, nice, have fun, but mint is not supported and offtopic here23:42
moredrowsyhey guys, i'm new to linux and just installed Ubuntu 19.04 LTS, i got a issue. I have google online account connected via the Settings dialog23:42
moredrowsyhowever whenever i click on the google drive mount, it doesn't connect23:43
moredrowsywhat is wrong?23:43
Youndermoredrowsy, we don't have your time machine?23:44
oerheksseems pretty straight forward https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-connect-ubuntu-18-04-to-your-google-account/23:45
oerheks"Walk through the sign-in process for your Google account. When that completes, you'll be greeted with the options available"23:45
mintoerheks: yes im in live version now23:45
moredrowsyoerheks, thanks. ill read that.23:46
minthttps://imgur.com/a/wXScB7Z oerheks23:47
mintoerheks: r u using weechat ?23:48
oerheksmint stop that, thanks. join your own channel..23:48
oerheks!mint23:48
ubottuThe Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)23:48
mintoerheks: do exist a irc client where you can have more than one chan in the same windows ?23:50
Youndermint, no23:51
oerheksjoin ##windows23:51
mintoerheks: why ?23:52
leftyfbmint: please stop. You're not running Ubuntu and your questions are not related to Ubuntu. Please go to #mint for help with mint.23:54
mintleftyfb: oerheks im more ubuntu than you , anyway yes sir i will back to my ubuntu 18 installation (since ubuntu 6)23:55
mintbye23:55
leftyfbthere's no ubuntu 18 or 623:56
oerheksanyone is more ubuntu than me. i like word games23:56
Younderleftyfb, please stop, 18.04 is the latest distribution23:56
leftyfbYounder: correct. 18.04. Not 18.23:57
Comstocksemantics23:57
leftyfbComstock: negative. It makes a BIG difference23:57
oerheksthe difference here was gigirock is a nice guy ...23:58
leftyfbComstock: someone comes saying they're running Ubuntu 16 and packages aren't updating. They're running 16.10, not 16. That makes a big difference when troubleshooting. As one example.23:58
oerhekswait ;-D23:58
gigirockhi , i was mint23:59
Comstockleftyfb, then you ask which. you don't assume.23:59
Comstockthere is a difference.23:59
oerheks:-o23:59
Comstockbut anyways, not going to get into a debate.23:59
gigirockoerheks, also a good lookin guy23:59

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