[07:21] <jt> hello! is anyone on? I am new to xubuntu and have been trying to figure out why my xinitrc file doesnt seem to do anything
[07:24] <pmjdebruijn> jt: when you do what?
[07:25] <pmjdebruijn> login?
[07:25] <pmjdebruijn> if you choose a xubuntu session, you get xfce
[07:25] <jt> yeah, it starts the environment but nothing i add to the file happens
[07:26] <pmjdebruijn> I don't think it's supposed to
[07:26] <jt> I am trying to get it to recognize some bitmap fonts then start lemon bar
[07:26] <pmjdebruijn> to start app use /etc/xdg/autostart/mycustom.desktop
[07:26] <jt> where should those commands go then? when I add then to on start they either happen 5 or 6 times or not at all
[07:26] <pmjdebruijn> for system wide
[07:26] <pmjdebruijn> for bitmapped fonts no clue
[07:27] <pmjdebruijn> what command are you running for that?
[07:27] <pmjdebruijn> it would seem odd that you'd need to run a command on every login
[07:27] <jt> ~/.bar/panel-darkred when started on login happens like 5 times
[07:27] <jt> and bit fonts need to be reestablished every login for some reason
[07:28] <jt> the bit font says "# you should do this every time X starts
[07:28] <jt>                                   # e.g. put it in your ~/.xinitrcy
[07:28] <pmjdebruijn> what do you need to do
[07:28] <pmjdebruijn> what's the command
[07:29] <jt> xset +fp ~/siji/tewi-font/out
[07:29] <jt> and xset +fp ~/.fonts
[07:29] <jt> and then ~/.bar/panel-darkred
[07:30] <pmjdebruijn> https://github.com/lucy/tewi-font
[07:30] <pmjdebruijn> see the fontconfig part
[07:30] <jt> if i do that, the font isnt recognized post logout
[07:32] <pmjdebruijn> what does find ~/.fonts give?
[07:32] <jt> a big long list of bitmap fonts
[07:33] <pmjdebruijn> no subdirs?
[07:33] <pmjdebruijn> anybody I've never seen fontconfig lose fonts post logout
[07:33] <pmjdebruijn> anyhow*
[07:33] <pmjdebruijn> so i'm a bit at a loss
[07:33] <jt> the fonts dont go away
[07:33] <pmjdebruijn> huh?
[07:33] <jt> but the system doesnt seem to recognize them
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> that's what i meant
[07:34] <jt> until after xset is run
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> uhm
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> "the system"
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> which applications
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> fontconfig is for any application that vaguely recent
[07:34] <pmjdebruijn> xset is for legacy application from the 80' en 90'
[07:34] <jt> lemonbar, which seems to be updated
[07:34] <jt> but i ccould be wrong
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> no
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> it's new
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> it's just built asif it were there 80ties
[07:35] <jt> gotcha
[07:35] <pmjdebruijn> so that's why you need the xset
[07:36] <pmjdebruijn> thing is, nobody cares about x11 font handling anymore
[07:36] <pmjdebruijn> it's been superceeded by fontconfig for a few decades
[07:36] <pmjdebruijn> which explains why you're having a bit of trouble
[07:36] <jt> yeah, but all other distros ive used have had a setup for autorunning commands in a file, but this one seems to lack that
[07:36] <pmjdebruijn> jt: but that's the wrong solution
[07:36] <jt> like an xprofile or xinit
[07:36] <pmjdebruijn> "running commands" is rarely a good solution
[07:37] <jt> re
[07:37] <jt> ure
[07:37] <jt> sure
[07:37] <pmjdebruijn> but you could make do with autostart .desktop files
[07:37] <jt> the issue is those dont seem to run cronologically
[07:37] <pmjdebruijn> but are you even going to use the xubuntu desktop as such?
[07:37] <jt> hm?
[07:38] <pmjdebruijn> lemonbar seems redundant for xfce
[07:38] <pmjdebruijn> xfce has bars :)
[07:38] <pmjdebruijn> if you're not going to use xfce, you should probably define your own session or something
[07:38] <pmjdebruijn> but again, someone else might be more insightful
[07:39] <jt> i think i have an idea
[07:39] <jt> thank you!
[21:38] <FurretUber> Hi, how do I disable all shadows using xfwm4? I would like to keep the compositor on but disable the shadows, but GNOME applications (gnome-disks, baobab, gedit, etc) are ignoring xfwm4 settings and create shadows around the windows
[21:58] <Spass> FurretUber, you can try this - https://askubuntu.com/a/770290/827866
[21:59] <Spass> oh, and hello
[22:00] <Spass> I did not test it, but seems very likely that this can be done by some custom entry in the ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css
[22:01] <Spass> (you may need to logout/log in to see the results)
[22:01] <FurretUber> Ok, thank you. I'll log out to see if it worked
[22:04] <FurretUber> Spass: it did not work, unfortunately
[22:05] <Spass> too bad, I have no other ideas, but it was worth trying
[22:22] <FurretUber> Why GNOME applications don't honor the window manager configuration?
[22:23] <Unit193> I'd guess CSDs, but that's just a guess.
[22:26] <FurretUber> Considering which applications do this (gnome-disks, baobab, gedit, tilix) it's possible this is the cause
[22:27] <Spass> FurretUber, found it instead od ".window-frame" put "decoration" (without a dot) and "decoration:backdrop"
[22:28] <Spass> so " decoration {box-shadow: none;} decoration:backdrop {box-shadow: none;} "
[22:28] <Spass> but it looks ugly, since there's absolutely no border now (window blends), so it need some more tweaking
[22:29] <Spass> but this is a good path I think. just tested it in my VM
[22:30] <FurretUber> Yes, it worked and it really looks a bit strange. Thank you, at least now the screenshots of the windows capture the window only, instead of the window plus a large border around
[22:31] <FurretUber> But sometimes it still captures an additional area
[22:35] <Spass> FurretUber, ok, found a way to make it look better (1px border added) will send you the code in 1sec
[22:37] <Spass> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YrSfZtqSrD/
[22:38] <Spass> you can change #888888 to any other colour of course
[22:39] <Spass> it works on my 18.04 in the VM
[22:40] <FurretUber> It worked to me too, I've adjusted the color so it is more consistent. The remaining issue is that xfce4-screenshooter captures those windows with the additional border
[22:40] <Spass> hmm, some padding or a margin, give me a sec
[22:42] <FurretUber> This is what is happening now when I capture one of the windows with those problems: https://i.imgur.com/gp9mWO1.png
[22:43] <FurretUber> By "now" I mean with no shadow but the additional border. Before it had shadow too
[22:44] <Spass> ok, tested, works, I added "margin: 0; padding: 0;" into decoration and decoration:backdrop classes
[22:44] <Spass> no margin upon screenshot now
[22:45] <Spass> I'll check now if that second decoration:backdrop class is even needed
[22:48] <Spass> hmm, I think you should leave it just in case, for compatibility purposes, I guess
[22:49] <FurretUber> Thank you very much, it's great now
[22:49] <Spass> FurretUber, so something like this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WqdXJgbmrh/ should work for you, with your border colours of course
[22:49] <Spass> ok, cool, I've learned something new too