[00:00] <Sir_Andrei> Hmm, good metaphor.
[00:01] <tomreyn> SJr: i thnk it has the Cloud-init" package installed by default, which makes it easier to adding it to 'the cloud' with canonicals cloud stack. you can just uninstall this package, and this file should be gone. i think netplan doesn't come with a (main) a configuration file by default, you are supposed to create it, or start with a template.
[00:02] <SJr> excellent
[00:06] <Sir_Andrei> Well, installation finished.
[00:06] <Sir_Andrei> But it still gave me GRUB shell when I power on the computer.
[00:07] <Sir_Andrei> Windows 10 boots normally (If I select W10 boot from UEFI setup).
[00:07] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: what do you need to do to get to the grub shell then?
[00:08] <Sir_Andrei> Just power on the computer.
[00:08] <Sir_Andrei> When I power it on it give me the grub shell.
[00:08] <Sir_Andrei> I know how to boot Ubuntu from it.
[00:08] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: well then note those stpes down and make them permanent
[00:08] <tomreyn> *steps
[00:09] <Sir_Andrei> Nice, one moment, I'll boot it.
[00:09] <tomreyn> i told you the same 2 hours ago ;)
[00:12] <Sir_Andrei> Yea, but remember my grub has broken then XD.
[00:14] <Sir_Andrei> Nice, I've booted it.
[00:14] <Sir_Andrei> So now..., I have to update grub (update-grub), right'
[00:15] <RoadRunner> is ubuntu driver manager a part of gnome desktop are these two things sepparate and unrelated?
[00:16] <Sir_Andrei> Updated.
[00:16] <RoadRunner> specifically, is the driver manager the same on ubuntu and xubuntu?
[00:16] <Sir_Andrei> But when I try with grub-install /dev/sda it says "Warning, this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
[00:17] <Sir_Andrei> grub-install: error: will not prceed with blocklists.
[00:17] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: it's a command line utility ("ubuntu-drivers", "jockey" in past releases), and there are gtk and qt based GUIs for it
[00:18] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: you installed grub to a partition?
[00:18] <tomreyn> that's no longer supported (never really was well supported)
[00:18] <Sir_Andrei> tomreyn, directly to /dev/sda
[00:19] <Sir_Andrei> "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[00:20] <BlackDalek> where do I find my grub menu.lst file?
[00:20] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: which ubuntu release is this again?
[00:20] <Sir_Andrei> Lubuntu 18.04 (amd64).
[00:20] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: menu.lst is grub legacy 0.9*, we're using grub 2 (1.9*) now, which uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:21] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, thank you
[00:21] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: this file is generated (overwritten automatically) by "update-grub"
[00:22] <RoadRunner> am having problems with webcams working with diff apps under diff xubuntu versions and wondering if it could be the driver or driver manager and if getting Linux Mint Driver Manager may help?
[00:22] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: is there more output or just this one line?
[00:22] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, I am having an issue where grub menu is not skipping. I have only one OS (16.04) installed, yet it waits indefinitely on grub menu at boot up until I press enter
[00:22] <Sir_Andrei> Hmm, i can paste it on pastebin, one moment.
[00:23] <tomreyn> ...
[00:23] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: edit the timeout option in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub
[00:25] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, I tried that. I set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=2 and ran update-grub but it still pauses at grub menu until I press enter
[00:26] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: what is GRUB_TIMEOUT set to?
[00:26] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, is there some other setting which is overriding the setting?
[00:26] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: also GRUB_DEFAULT
[00:27] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, 0.
[00:27] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: both are set to 0?
[00:27] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, GRUB_DEFAULT is also 0
[00:28] <tomreyn> is GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE defined?
[00:29] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, there is no such definition defined
[00:30] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[00:30] <oerheks> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/svvNdQH7zD/
[00:31] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: so GRUB_TIMEOUT is 0, right?
[00:31] <oerheks> 10 is standard
[00:32] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, yes, that's what it says in the file at /etc/default/grub
[00:32] <Sir_Andrei_2> Hi again
[00:32] <Sir_Andrei_2> https://pastebin.com/raw/b5fdwxNp
[00:33] <Sir_Andrei> @tomreyn ^
[00:33] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, the only setting which has a numerical non-zero value is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=2
[00:33] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: hmm, then i'm puzzled, with this configuration it should not show the grub menu by default, giving you 2 seconds to hit escape or shift to display it, by when it would remain waiting for user input
[00:34] <BlackDalek> Is there anything else in the system which could override the settings in /etc/default/grub?
[00:34] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: that's all ubuntu defaults
[00:34] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: it's /etc/default/grub.cfg
[00:34] <tomreyn> did you miss .cfg?
[00:35] <tomreyn> oh wait, that's wrong. sorry
[00:35] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: /etc/default/grub is correct
[00:35] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, the filename has no extension :)
[00:35] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: i mixed it up with /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:36] <BlackDalek> yep
[00:36] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: i'm not aware of anything e4lse which would modify the behaviour there. you could look through your generated grub.cfg though, and see what was written there
[00:36] <oerheks> GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 ...
[00:37] <oerheks> that is what mine gives
[00:37] <tomreyn> oerheks: so you have the menu diplayed by default?
[00:38] <oerheks> no, it goes straight to the default entry
[00:38] <oerheks> see the paste
[00:38] <oerheks> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/svvNdQH7zD/
[00:38] <oerheks> and compare with yours?
[00:41] <tomreyn> mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WzS7bKp2ZM/
[00:41] <BlackDalek> oerheks, ok... I'm modifying my file to reflect yours.
[00:42] <tomreyn> i get no menu by default, there is a 2s timeout where i can activate the menu, then it waits for input
[00:42] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: maybe you edited /etc/grub.d/00_header ?
[00:43] <tomreyn> that's where the imtout is added when grub.cfg is created
[00:43] <tomreyn> *timeout
[00:43] <Sir_Andrei> It is really necessary to reinstall GRUB?
[00:44] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, I see your config has no GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=x line. Anyway, I am rebooting it now to see what oerheks config does
[00:44] <Sir_Andrei> I mean, I have regenerated it, and I've done a grub-mkconfig.
[00:44] <Sir_Andrei> If my computer starts giving me GRUB shell, I suppouse GRUB is already installed.
[00:45] <Sir_Andrei> Let's restart...
[00:45] <Sir_Andrei> Dah, GRUB Shell again.
[00:45] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: it means grub was loaded form *somewhere*, yes
[00:46] <tomreyn> you need to install the current version of grub to the device the computer will boot from once per grub version
[00:47] <oerheks> ubuntu must be installed in uefi mode, right? else one needs to chroot an install from live iso and reinstall grub
[00:47] <Sir_Andrei> @tomreyn, with grub-install?
[00:47] <oerheks> * c/ booted in
[00:47] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: that's right. i commented out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 here (i think grub was always pointing out this should not be set when GRUB_TIMEOUT is a non-zero value) and it works fine this way.
[00:47] <BlackDalek> well that was weird... during shutdown, I had a blinking underscore cursor in top left of blank screen for about 60 seconds before the machine restarted
[00:48] <BlackDalek> ok.. now it's waiting at the grub menu again.....
[00:48] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: yes grub-install /dev/sdX (or whatever the raw device name is)
[00:49] <Sir_Andrei-2> That's the result.
[00:49] <Sir_Andrei-2> https://pastebin.com/raw/b5fdwxNp
[00:49] <BlackDalek> it's gone longer than 10 seconds.... nothing is happening.
[00:49] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, oerheks' config made no difference. I am still stuck at grub waiting for me to press enter.
 BlackDalek: maybe you edited /etc/grub.d/00_header ?
[00:51] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, I will now look to see if anything is at /etc/grub.d/00_header....
[00:52] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei-2: you are BIOS booting
[00:52] <Sir_Andrei> That's new for me.
[00:52] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei-2: and the grub which is loaded there cannot spot a bios_grub partition on the same device.
[00:52] <Sir_Andrei> Hmm..., maybe cause it doesn't exists.
[00:53] <Sir_Andrei> Well..., I'll create one with Gparted, one moment.
[00:54] <oerheks> i agree that the uefi manual is poor, without proper images
[00:54] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, the file 00_header appears to be a script. I am not sure what I am looking for. I have never edited this file myself.
[00:56] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: compare the relevant part to mine: grep timeout /etc/grub.d/00_header | pastebinit
[00:56] <tomreyn> BlackDex: here's mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q2fB3TVfcj/
[00:57] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: can you also post your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[00:57] <tomreyn> BlackDex: sorr,y not you
[01:02] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, my 00_header's make_timeout () section looks completely different to yours. Hold on, I will pastebin some stuff
[01:02] <Sir_Andr`> Sorry, I've lost connection.
[01:06] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, my 00_header file https://pastebin.com/UFtzUqZS
[01:10] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: "ubuntu-drivers devices" did not generate any drivers at all; what sources of proprietary drivers can I consider to resolve my webcam issues?
[01:15] <oerheks> if drivers do not show prop drivers, you are fine
[01:16] <oerheks> webcam issues, might be your pidgin 2.13 ??
[01:16] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: ubuntu-drivers only provides some proprietary drivers, none for webcams. which webcam do you have there, what makes oyu think it doesn't work?
[01:17] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: i'm on 16.04, i think you're on 18.04 so it may well differ
[01:17] <oerheks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list  /// driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[01:18] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, no.. this is a 16.04 system
[01:22] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, I am getting my grub.cfg pastebinned now... hold on...
[01:23] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: your and my /etc/grub.d/00_header are identical
[01:24] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: maybe you should just uise the pastebinit command
[01:24] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | BlackDalek
[01:25] <tomreyn> you can always pipe through grep -v or sed -e before you pass it to pastebinit in case you want to remove / replace / rewrite things.
[01:25] <tomreyn> !rootirc | rui_
[01:25] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, ok.., installing pastebinit
[01:27] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, that makes things easier http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RrP8MZ3w74/
[01:30] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Wj2KMNHcrF/
[01:33] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: here's my timeout section on grub.cfg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fmM6zwYZxP/
[01:34] <tomreyn> compare it to the section starting line 76 in yours http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RrP8MZ3w74/
[01:35] <tomreyn> as a reminder, this is my /etc/default/grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WzS7bKp2ZM/
[01:37] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: which of these computers are you trying to fix?
[01:37] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: both
[01:37] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: so computer 1 runs ubuntu 16.04.4 and computer 2 runs ubuntu 18.04.0 ?
[01:37] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, so... what do I do now? Manually edit my grub.cfg file?
[01:38] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: yes
[01:39] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: i guess i would check whent hose files were last modified and see whether this gives a hint on what might be wrong / not get updated. and then i would change settings in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub and see how this results in changes (or not) in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[01:42] <oerheks> no video between versions can be expected. no video in skype  ... does the webcamtool cheese do anything?
[01:43] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: about computer 1, you say the webcam works fine with cheese, so it works generally, so i won't try to help you make a non ubuntu pidgin release or a proprietary software 8skype) work, you're on your own. about computer 2 you say "video doesn't work under 'Cheese' or Skype but cam is seen and works fine under 'Camorama Webcam Viewer'". what do you mean by "video doesn't work"? that you don't get to see what ir being recorded by your
[01:43] <tomreyn> cam?
[01:47] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, last modified about 1 hour ago
[01:47] <oerheks> maybe the 18.04 machines are running a wayland session..
[01:47] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: old, maybe somewhat outdated, but maybe also helpful webcam trouble shooting info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[01:47] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: that's grub.cfg? so it gets updated.
[01:48] <BlackDalek> tomreyn, and then last modified is current time immediately after running update-grub again
[01:48] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: on comp1, I mentioned that I tried 3 ver's of pidgin one of which is an 'official' release for 16.04 with same end result. On comp2, by video doesn't work I mean there is no image at all (never mind recording)
[01:48] <tomreyn> BlackDalek: so try playing with the values in /etc/default/grub i guess
[01:49] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: comp1: okay, but it works in egneral, as you worked out with cheese, so it's not a generic issue.
[01:50] <TeddyMurray> okay so, im trying to setup a oracle vmware virtual box using ubuntu 16.06 i386 but when i launch it with the virtual machine it just freezes after a purple splash screen
[01:50] <TeddyMurray> it has a black cursor and doesnt go anywhere for hours
[01:50] <tomreyn> TeddyMurray: it is news to me that oracle has acquired vmware
[01:51] <TeddyMurray> well im glad i brought you some knowledge from under my rock
[01:51] <oerheks> yay \0/ ... wait
[01:51] <tomreyn> TeddyMurray: i would claim those news are fake, though
[01:51] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: in comp 1, cheese works, but that's all I can say about it, so I don't know where the problem lies: driver, pidgin or what
[01:51] <foo> Here's a fun one - I have 2 machines, each with ssh, but neither I can set up port forwarding on. How can I ssh from machine A into machine B?
[01:52] <foo> I do have root on both
[01:52] <tomreyn> TeddyMurray: i suspect the name of the software you are using is oracle virtualbox.
[01:52] <BenderRodriguez> I'm trying to boot Ubuntui 18.04 LTS via libvirt/virsh but I get "could not read from cdrom (code 000c)
[01:52] <BenderRodriguez> any ideas why this is ?
[01:52] <corey__> can anyone point me to a current guide of gpu passthrough with ubuntu 18.04?
[01:52] <Tecan> i found out what was causing xorg to eat 20% cpu on mate
[01:52] <Tecan> it was the sleep inhibitor applet
[01:53] <Tecan> it was using 8% itself and made xorg go from 5% to 20%
[01:53] <tomreyn> TeddyMurray: also ubuntu 16.06 doesn't seem to exist. run "lsb_release -ds" to find out which version you have.
[01:53] <TeddyMurray> 16.04 typo
[01:54] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: must be with pidgin or what it uses to access the webcam signal
[01:54] <TeddyMurray> im on a windows machine running a vmware trying to install ubuntu to it
[01:54] <tomreyn> !md5 | BenderRodriguez
[01:54] <oerheks> TeddyMurray,  check the host with vmware, enough vram and such?
[01:55] <TeddyMurray> hmm i put 2gb of vram
[01:55] <TeddyMurray> maybe that's too much?
[01:56] <tomreyn> TeddyMurray: so the software you are using is probably one of "vmware workstation" and "vmware server" and "vmware player"
[01:56] <oerheks> 2 gb is more than required. most vmware users use premade vm's
[01:56] <TeddyMurray> i will look into premade vms
[01:57] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: in comp 1 I had the best success with versions 2.12 and 2.13  because I could see myself from my webcam - implying maybe the problem was with transmition of video
[01:59] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: i have no knowledge in this area which i could provide you with
[01:59] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: do you have working video under pidgin?
[01:59] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: i have neither pdgin nor a webcam
[02:00] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: :) any suggestions for comp2?
[02:01] <tomreyn> have you tried with vlc?
[02:01] <RoadRunner> vlc for video conferencing?
[02:01] <tomreyn> for testing access to the webcam signal
[02:02] <RoadRunner> haven't used vlc for years and never with a webcam
[02:02] <tomreyn> or some of the other applications listed on the wiki page i pointed to
[02:04] <tomreyn> this should be how you proceed: first you need to establish that the hardware is supported on this ubuntu version. then you try to make video in and output work with one application, then you can look into making it work with other appplications.
[02:05] <RoadRunner> thank you for the link; I'll study it
[02:05] <tomreyn> run utilities from a terminal where possible so you'll get to see the entire output, which may help in diagnosing any issues
[02:06] <RoadRunner> your gut feeling is that its not the driver responsible for cams?
[02:06] <bkhl> I'd like to be able to activate/deactivate additional routes with network-manager similarly to how I can turn on/off VPNs. Is that possible. I know I can keep a separate ethernet/wifi/mobile data config with different routes, but that means I'll have to keep multiple configurations for each interface. Any ideas?
[02:07] <rubencho> hola
[02:07] <tomreyn> TeddyMurray: just a broad guess, but you may need to boot with either nomodeset or vga=791 kernel parameters
[02:07] <rubencho> hola
[02:07] <Biessie> is their a command to know what services automatically start on bootup?
[02:07] <Sir_Andrei> @tomreyn, I'd reinstalled Lubuntu (again...).
[02:07] <rubencho> hola
[02:07] <Sir_Andrei> I've made biosgrub partition in the process.
[02:08] <Sir_Andrei> Rubencho, hablá inglés en esta sala (you must speak only english in this room).
[02:08] <rubencho> spanis
[02:08] <Sir_Andrei> En caso contrario decime por mp que buscás (use mp if u wanna speak our language).
[02:08] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: if something doesn't work with all the applications, then it can well be a linux kernel module issue. if something works with one application but not others then it is an issue with the other applications.
[02:09] <rubencho> conversar
[02:09] <rubencho> eres hombre o mujer
[02:09] <rubencho> o travesty
[02:09] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: thank you
[02:10] <rubencho> o eres maricon
[02:10] <Sir_Andrei> Este es un chat técnico..., a buscar pareja a Tinder. (This man is trying to find a couple here).
[02:10] <Sir_Andrei> Te vas a la c*ncha de tu madre.
[02:10] <tomreyn> !es | rubencho
[02:11] <rubencho> no hablo ingles
[02:11] <Sir_Andrei> ¿No hablás inglés?, aprendelo entonces, analfabeto de m*erda ("you don't speak english, so learn it analphabet").
[02:12] <rubencho> chupen vergas
[02:13] <Sir_Andrei> @rubencho is swearing in spanish...
[02:13] <Sir_Andrei> Just a troll...
[02:13] <tomreyn> just ignore
[02:14] <PsychoBoB> Guys, have a way to install the deepin graphics on my ubuntu 18 ?
[02:14] <rubencho> chupen harta verga
[02:15] <rubencho> hagan
[02:15] <PsychoBoB> ?
[02:15] <Sir_Andrei> F*ck yeah!!!!, "Installation finished. No error reported" (when I entered "grub-install /dev/sda").
[02:15] <tomreyn> rubencho: stop
[02:15] <Sir_Andrei> It just needed a biosgrub partition.
[02:15] <rubencho> no instale ubuntu
[02:15] <Sir_Andrei> @tomreyn, u deserve a f*cking beer man.
[02:15] <rubencho> instale ubuntu mate
[02:16] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: a keg
[02:16] <rubencho> por que tengo una ram dr uno
[02:17] <tomreyn> !ops
[02:17] <tomreyn> PsychoBoB: deepin isnt supported, but a web search brings up this as the first result: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/06/how-to-install-deepin-desktop-environment-on-ubuntu-18-04
[02:18] <Sir_Andrei> Well, I've restarted, but I still have the same problem.
[02:18] <Sir_Andrei> I mean, it gives me Grub shell when powering on that computer.
[02:18] <Sir_Andrei> Well..., at least now I can reinstall GRUB without errores.
[02:18] <Sir_Andrei> errors*
[02:19] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: can you still boot form there?
[02:19] <tomreyn> if so, note down what you entered to make it boot
[02:19] <Sir_Andrei> Yeah, using commands on GRUB shell.
[02:20] <Sir_Andrei> Done.
[02:20] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: once it's booted, run this: apt update; apt install pastebinit
[02:21] <Sir_Andrei> Nice.
[02:21] <Sir_Andrei> Done.
[02:21] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: then: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg; lsblk | pastebinit
[02:22] <tomreyn> mount | pastebinit
[02:22] <tomreyn> you should have three urls by now, let us know about them
[02:22] <Sir_Andrei> Yeah, one moment.
[02:23] <Sir_Andrei> I'll call "my brotha".
[02:24] <tomreyn> you can install an openssh server and connect to that so you can copy and paste the urls
[02:25] <Sir_Andrei> Oh..., you are such a creative man.
[02:26] <tomreyn> yes, i copy and paste very well
[02:26] <Sir_Andrei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hjw7tPghx4/
[02:28] <Sir_Andrei> I'm copying by hand while emacs is installed in the other PC.
[02:28] <Sir_Andrei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/psT258JJ9w/
[02:28] <Sir_Andrei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vdGFp977xy/
[02:29] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: now, the notes you took earlier, when you manually booted into linux from the grub prompt, what are they?
[02:30] <Sir_Andrei> One moment.
[02:33] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nVKYq7NcXV/
[02:33] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: also show: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[02:34] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: and: blkid | pastebinit
[02:34] <Sir_Andrei> blkid is an empty document.
[02:35] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HFDCxXpQ22/
[02:35] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[02:36] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: "blkid | pastebinit", not "pastebinit blkid"
[02:37] <Sir_Andrei> Yeah, I wrote it fine.
[02:37] <Sir_Andrei> I know | is a pipe and i tried just "blkid".
[02:37] <Sir_Andrei> And..., it doesn't throw anything.
[02:37] <tomreyn> apt install util-linux
[02:38] <tomreyn> actually, if it returns nothing, anod no error message, then you dont need to
[02:38] <Sir_Andrei> It returns nothing.
[02:39] <tomreyn> weird.
[02:39] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: did you post your notes, yet?
[02:39] <Sir_Andrei> Yea
[02:40] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nVKYq7NcXV/
[02:40] <tomreyn> hmm i must have missed them
[02:41] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: what'S the output of "sudo blkid" ?
[02:42] <Sir_Andrei> blkid at least return some lines
[02:42] <Sir_Andrei> Ill upload it.
[02:42] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zwzRDTVYJ/
[02:42] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[02:42] <tomreyn> aha!
[02:43] <tomreyn> this will take me some minutes now
[02:44] <Sir_Andrei> Thx C:
[02:44] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: can you do : sudo lsblk 2>&1 | pastebinit
[02:45] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cGg97bfh4Y/
[02:45] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[02:47] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei_s_bro: do you have a file /boot/grub/device.map ? if so, tell me what's in there
[02:48] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> No
[02:48] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> Sorry...
[02:48] <Sir_Andrei> No*
[02:48] <Sir_Andrei> ls /boot/grub have some files..., but any device.map
[02:56] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: which is your bios_grub partition?
[02:59] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: sudo parted /dev/sda print 2>&1 | pastebinit
[02:59] <Sir_Andrei> I was installed gparted hahah
[02:59] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: what do you mean by "i was installed gparted"?
[03:00] <Sir_Andrei> 'Cause u gave me that command.
[03:00] <Sir_Andrei> And I was installing Gparted to be sure of what partition is biosgrub.
[03:00] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qDZ99tZyB5/
[03:00] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[03:04] <jamie1> if im running lubuntu, is there a way to install gnome de with wayland display server on it?
[03:05] <jamie1> i found out after installing lubuntu that my favorite emu retroarch does not work right on x11 anymore
[03:06] <jamie1> or do i have to go and install ubuntu or ubuntu gnome?
[03:11] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: hmm, i'm not sure what exactly the problem is. i suspect grub does not install its core files to the bios_grub partition, which is also very large (1MB would be common). this partition needs ot be within the first 2TB of your HDD, but this is the case, your disk has just 1 TB capacity. and i further assume that because grub doesn't find the bios_grub partition it then fails to resolve the UUIDs provided in grub.cfg.
[03:11] <tomreyn> but this is just a theory really.
[03:11] <Sir_Andrei> So...
[03:12] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: can you run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda 2>&1 | pastebinit; sudo parted /dev/sda print 2>&1 | pastebinit
[03:14] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jXpvY8BtZ2/
[03:14] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/S8qw5zxQDd/
[03:14] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[03:16] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei_s_bro: is this a 32-bit system?
[03:16] <tomreyn> what's your hardware, which ubuntu did you install there?
[03:17] <Sir_Andrei> 64 bits.
[03:18] <Sir_Andrei> Lubuntu 18.04 (amd64).
[03:18] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: what does "cat /proc/version" report?
[03:18] <tomreyn> lscpu | pastebinit
[03:19] <oerheks> .. 32 bit uefi machine ??
[03:19] <oerheks> omg
[03:19] <tomreyn> i think so, but i'm not sure how to reliably identify
[03:19] <oerheks> brand and model number can tell
[03:21] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: sudo dmidecode --type baseboard | pastebinit
[03:21] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei_s_bro: ^
[03:22] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: ' grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo ' If you see "lm" in red, it's 64 bits. Otherwise it's 32 bits.
[03:22] <Sir_Andrei> I was making some food.
[03:22] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Also ' sudo lshw | grep "description: CPU" -A 12 | grep width
[03:22] <Bashing-om> It says clearly whether it's 64 or 32 bits (may take a little while to finish).
[03:22] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: okay, but that's the cpu, not the mainboard's boot capability, right
[03:23] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> Linux version 4.15.0-20-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-039) (gcc version 7.3.0 (Ubuntu 7.3.0-16ubuntu3)) #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 24 06:16:15 UTC 2018
[03:23] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[03:23] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> (cat /proc/version)
[03:23] <tomreyn> your kernel is outdated, you'Re 3 or so verison sbehind. but this wont be why
[03:24] <tomreyn> ...hopefully
[03:24] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gg7pW7yzmk/
[03:24] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[03:24] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> lscpu ^
[03:24] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> Yea, if I update it it will broke grub definitely hahahah
[03:24] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> Remember I've tried that few hours ago.
[03:24] <tomreyn> that's indeed a 64-bit cpu
[03:25] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kM8r7ncCmH/
[03:25] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[03:25] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei_s_bro: ok
[03:25] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> dmicode --type baseboard ^
[03:27] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: so i think you should see again how you can boot the ubuntu installer in efi mode, not bios mode, which aou apprently did.
[03:27] <tomreyn> and then i think it would actually make boith ubuntu and windows work
[03:28] <Sir_Andrei> You mean "install" on efi mode.
[03:28] <Sir_Andrei> I'm booting from Lubuntu Live first.
[03:28] <Sir_Andrei> Then installing.
[03:29] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: yes, i'm saying you need to start the lubuntu live/installer in efi mode, not bios
[03:29] <Sir_Andrei> Thx, I'll try C:
[03:29] <oerheks> no, that y50-70 seems to have normal 64 bit uefi.
[03:30] <Rockwood> how to crop images in ubuntu?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Rockwood, install gimp
[03:30] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: to detemrinewhetehr you have the latest bios version: sudo dmidecode --type bios | pastebinit
[03:31] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/f9hQ6PQ8c5/
[03:31] <Sir_Andrei_s_bro>  
[03:32] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: if you enter bios, check what "boot mode" item in "boot" table is set to, is it "uefi" or "legacy support"
[03:32] <Sir_Andrei> One moment. I'll restart the baby.
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> Rockwood: there is a nautilus package to resize images too
[03:33] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: you have bios version 9ECN31WW from 2014, the latest is 9ECN43WW(V3.03) from 2015 according to https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/de/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-y-series-laptops/y50-70-notebook-lenovo/downloads/ds100998
[03:33] <sfdebug> hi, i have ubuntu 14.04 installed in my machine and the monitor HDMI turns off and some times turns on again... any idea?
[03:33] <badpilot> Hi all I recently attempted a macbuntu transformation and I can't get compizconfig to load different windows animations. I tried reinstalling and it didn't fix
[03:33] <Sir_Andrei> Boot mode is "Legacy Support"
[03:33] <cfhowlett> best you ask macbuntu for support of that pacakge, badpilot
[03:34] <oerheks> macbuntu ... the horror theme..
[03:34] <badpilot> Oh... do they have a channel?
[03:34] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: see, that's bios booting
[03:34] <Sir_Andrei> Nice.
[03:34]  * oerheks shivers
[03:34] <Sir_Andrei> UEFI is the other option...
[03:34] <cfhowlett> oerheks, could be worse. there is an ubuntu/windows theme somewhere out in the wild
[03:34] <Sir_Andrei> So..., got it, I have to select UEFI mode.
[03:34] <oerheks> i know, reinstall !
[03:34] <badpilot> oerheks: I'm a bit mac obsessed
[03:34] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: set it to uefi and see if windows still boots
[03:35] <badpilot> but I have come across some terrible icon sets
[03:35] <badpilot> bleh... don't get me started
[03:35] <Sir_Andrei> If I select Windows Boot Manager it boots, yea.
[03:35] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: where do you select that?
[03:35] <Sir_Andrei> F12
[03:36] <Sir_Andrei> I don't know the name.
[03:36] <Sir_Andrei> The same place where I select to boot my USB Stick.
[03:36] <tomreyn> probably the boot device override menu
[03:36] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: okay, now install ubuntu ;)
[03:36] <tomreyn> while i get some sleep
[03:36] <Sir_Andrei> Without biosgrub, right?
[03:37] <Sir_Andrei> Tom, where are you from?
[03:37] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: you're using efi booting now, meaning ubuntu will share the ESP with windows
[03:37] <Sir_Andrei> Nice C:
[03:37] <tomreyn> Sir_Andrei: so no need for a biosgrub partition. but you can and should just do automatic partitioning so that windows is preserved.
[03:38] <tomreyn> i'm in europe
[03:38] <tomreyn> and in bed
[03:38] <Sir_Andrei> Oh, it's morning in that place.
[03:38] <badpilot> does 16.04 support EGPU's?
[03:38] <cfhowlett>    !  TMI
[03:38] <Sir_Andrei> What an hour to sleep...
[03:38] <Sir_Andrei> I'm from Montevideo, Uruguay.
[03:38] <tomreyn> ttyl
[03:38] <badpilot> And I'm from mars
[03:38] <Sir_Andrei> Mars?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> focus on the topic people.  UBUNTU support.
[03:39] <Sir_Andrei> So how have u read my message so far?
[03:39] <badpilot> sorry
[03:39] <Sir_Andrei> Latency is something like 20 minutes...
[03:39] <cfhowlett> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like
[03:39] <Sir_Andrei> so fast*
[03:39] <badpilot> ooh! sign me up!
[03:39] <Sir_Andrei> Ok @cfhowlett
[03:39] <badpilot> *changes channel*
[03:42] <Sir_Andrei> It detect my USB Stick as "EFI USB Device"
[03:42] <Sir_Andrei> Nice.
[03:58] <sfdebug> hi, i have ubuntu 14.04 installed in my machine and the monitor HDMI turns off and some times turns on again... any idea?
[04:12] <PsychoBoB> i can install deepin
[04:12] <PsychoBoB> nice!!
[04:17] <Sir_Andrei> tomreyn, I know you probably are sleeping now, but I have to say your solution worked just excellent.
[04:17] <Sir_Andrei> U deserve the f*cking beer keg after all. Thanks for your time and dedication.
[04:19] <DrEmmettBrown> I've spent 24 hours on ubuntu and i'm in love with it
[05:34] <gpgugp> hi guys
[05:34] <gpgugp> ubuntu is good working in i like that
[06:22] <qwebirc88629> Hi everybody
[06:22] <qwebirc88629> I need a little bit of  help
[06:24] <poutine> qwebirc88629, your best chance at receiving it comes with posting what your problem is with enough detail for a solution to be given
[06:40] <pantato> how to make openbox show at login screen window manager options ?
[06:43] <cfhowlett> login windows options
[06:44] <pantato> cfhowlett: is that at the login screen? i don't see it in my regular options
[06:45] <cfhowlett> pantato, should be in lightDM gtk+ greeter settings
[06:46] <pantato> cfhowlett: i think i'm using gdm3
[06:46] <pantato> i'm on 18.04
[06:46] <cfhowlett> I'm still on 16.04 so can't offer anything further
[06:52] <ducasse> pantato: what exactly do you mean by wm options?
[07:39] <Oriyon> is it normal for transmission client  to use 37+ mb ram  in sleep mode?  i installed qbittorrentand its usage is 86+ mb .    OS is ubuntu-mate 18.04
[07:40] <superguest> Does anyone know how I can make ubuntu dash recognize programs I have installed under /opt/ ?
[07:40] <Oriyon> screenshot https://i.imgur.com/bMUzr23.png
[07:40] <superguest> unity's dash I mean
[08:11] <gast> hello
[08:12] <gast> how can i clear all messages from gnome notifcation area from command line, all tips are welcome ..
[08:17] <cristian_c> gast: do messages stay there forever?
[08:18] <gast> well its a script that i run, i like to clear it once a while
[08:18] <gast> and yes they then run forever
[08:19] <gast> it would be nice to clear it , so it has more space for the next run
[08:20] <gast> ubuntu 18.04 LTS default gnome desktop
[08:20] <ducasse> gast: check the docs for the notification daemon, dunst has a keybinding (ctrl+space) to clear notifications
[08:21] <gast> yeah, thats the idea, but instead of the crtl+space , it would be nice to add the clear command to the script..
[08:23] <ducasse> there might be some command you can send via dbus, but you would need to ask the gnome devs about that
[08:26] <gast> ok, reading the docs right now ;)
[08:33] <gast> ok, found the solution : notify-send --hint int:transient:1 "Title" "Body"
[08:33] <cristian_c> :O
[08:33] <gast> the --hint int:transient:1 part does the trick, so it no longer adds a long row of messages ..
[08:33] <gast> just have to re-write the script ..
[08:34] <gast> thanx
[08:34] <cristian_c> hello, a question for you, guys
[08:35] <coconut> on ubuntu, where are DNS TTL cache entries saved?
[08:35] <cristian_c> I've set bios clock, but when I run ubuntu 18.04, bios clock is reset
[08:35] <cristian_c> instead, when I run windows, bios clock stays untouched
[08:36] <cristian_c> I don't know how ubuntu can change bios settings
[08:36] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[08:42] <thorsten_> good morning
[08:43] <thorsten_> we stable is 18.4 lts
[08:43] <thorsten_> running good 18.4 lts?
[08:46] <Alion> hi i Just set a customixed Keybinding in gnome-term To switch tab useing Ctrl
[08:47] <Brian-> Hello! I'm running into bluetooth issue on 18.4 - basically BT looks to be working - if you run the command line tools you can see mac addresses trying to connect but over and over in kernel logs
[08:47] <Brian-> Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd complete (0x0f)
[08:47] <Brian-> and no devices work
[08:47] <Brian-> running imac but seeing this affecting other hardware also
[08:47] <Brian-> where is best place to report the bug?
[08:49] <Alion> hi i Just set a customixed Keybinding in gnome-term To switch tab useing Ctrl+T and it broke EVERY shortcut Now shortcuts WONT Work And They wont reset i Used the edit>>preferences>>Shortcuts To Do AND It brusted the Terminal rebooting would fix it
[08:50] <Alion> where do you staore the keybindings to MANUALLY Edit
[08:52] <Alion> odd its Fixed
[08:57] <Alion> maybe one of You Would like to help with another Matter, an openvp server that according to systemctl status openvpn@server.service And systemctl status openvpn@server is active and running But systemctl status openvpn Says its active (exited) and journalctl -xe says Failed to start OpenVPN service for server
[08:57] <Alion> that is 18.04 server
[09:17] <Sky_> Hello all.  Does anyone know of a free Adobe Acrobat Pro PDF editor that will allow me to make rollover interactive buttons similar to this please - https://youtu.be/HEyJuT8SSME
[09:18] <Sky_> Fairly new to Ubuntu and don't know all the software yet :)
[09:44] <samfisher> how do I setup ufw so to allow incoming traffic to port 20 from a specific lan ip address and deny all of the rest?
[09:44] <brainwash> Brian-: maybe this bug 1748565
[09:44] <medard> Hi guys. What video player do you recommend for ubuntu/
[09:45] <brainwash> samfisher: I guess you can do it easily with the gui frontend (gufw)
[09:45] <coconut> medard VLC or MPV
[09:51] <Brian-> Thanks brainwash - according to that its just a cosmetic - log reporting thing
[09:51] <Brian-> so perhaps the logs are unrelated to my issue brainwash
[09:51] <Brian-> Apple bluetooth adapter is broadcom
[09:51] <Brian-> is this still the case? 2
[09:52] <Brian-> https://askubuntu.com/questions/632336/bluetooth-broadcom-43142-isnt-working
[09:53] <brainwash> Brian-: did you read through the upstream bug report also?
[09:54]  * Brian- is looking
[09:54] <brainwash> this one https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198699
[09:55] <Brian-> ahh https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198699#c11
[09:55] <Brian-> Thanks brainwash will reboot into ubuntu and try it out in a sec!
[09:55] <Brian-> thanks for your help
[10:03] <pantato> ducasse: like you're at the login screen when you boot up, and there's a little settings icon next to the user where you can choose which WM to boot into. I'd like for openbox and lxde to be options there
[10:27] <zomaar> Is there any way to prevent Apt from constantly deleting the packages it downloads?
[10:27] <zomaar> This is a fresh 16.04 install... installed Vim and Firefox and not much else, and the packages are already gone, probably instantly deleted
[10:30] <zomaar> The only ones that remain are the ones that I have apt-get install --reinstalled :-/.
[10:31] <zomaar> Oh, it seems apt deleted them but apt-get does not?
[10:32] <zomaar> deletes*
[10:35] <pinga> Has anyone had an instance where they install ubuntu and then their battery no longer works?
[10:35] <pinga> My battery was fine on windows 10 and now on ubuntu it only works on power supply
[10:39] <xls> anybody here
[10:50] <zomaar> pinga I couldn't help you but these seem out of this world problems
[10:55] <pinga> when I query it in the terminal it says that the battery is present and fully charged, but when I unplug the ps the laptop shuts down
[10:55] <zomaar> do you mean instantly or ubuntu does it?
[10:56] <pinga> no definitely a no power situation
[10:56] <pinga> just completely dies
[10:56] <zomaar> so instantly
[10:56] <zomaar> yes
[10:56] <pinga> yes
[10:56] <zomaar> When hardware starts behaving like that it becomes rather.... endless ;-).
[10:56] <pinga> hmm
[10:57] <pinga> It's actually new (refurbished)
[10:57] <zomaar> But you have the same still in Windows?
[10:57] <pinga> so I guess I'll call the shop up and complain
[10:57] <pinga> I wiped windows os so haven't been able to test that
[10:58] <pinga> maybe I could boot from a usb and see if the issue is still present
[10:58] <zomaar> You could try running the installer as it's a mini windows environment
[10:58] <zomaar> Yes
[10:58] <zomaar> But making use of warranty terms before they run out is.... advisable
[10:58] <pinga> ugh bloody hardware why can't anything be easy haha
[10:59] <zomaar> And don't let them get you hooked on troubleshooting that will extend past that term
[10:59] <zomaar> Yeah
[10:59] <zomaar> But if you cannot find anything online about it, then you have a strong case to blame the hardware ;-)
[11:00] <pinga> Tbh since it's a refurb I wouldn't be surprised
[11:00] <zomaar> You did not find anything when searching?
[11:00] <pinga> Just seemed odd that the issue happened after the reinstall
[11:01] <pinga> A few things suggesting some sort of config error
[11:01] <zomaar> I'm not saying it's not a interplay between the Linux kernel and your laptop
[11:01] <zomaar> however when hardware starts behaving like that the "end is lost"
[11:01] <pinga> but when I get the status of the battery in terminal it sounds fine
[11:02] <zomaar> What Ubuntu are you using?
[11:02] <pinga> I'll try the mini boot like you sugggested tho
[11:02] <pinga> 18.04 LTS
[11:02] <zomaar> So you got a recent kernel
[11:03] <pinga> yah ^^
[11:03] <zomaar> If you can get a 16.04.3 ISO or 16.04.0 you could try other kernels
[11:03] <zomaar> but yeah I would suggest getting other hardware instead
[11:04] <pinga> $5#$)#$)@
[11:04] <tomreyn> wen it comes to anything acpi related, cross-testing with windows is probably a good idea. but i'm with zomaar, this sounds a lot like hardware issues. maybe they forogt to replace a fully dead battery when they refurbished
[11:04] <pinga> nooooo
[11:04] <zomaar> (even if it is software you have no hopes of solving it)
[11:05] <tomreyn> well, could look for a bios update. but if they refurbished, you should already have that
[11:06] <zomaar> oh someone here had some acpi script right? For Grub? Was that you?
[11:06] <zomaar> tom?
[11:06] <tomreyn> not me
[11:06] <tomreyn> (and i dont know what you're referring to)
[11:07] <tomreyn> oh maybe TJ's
[11:07] <zomaar> someone has script online that will check flags for windows version for grub to emulate windows
[11:07] <pinga> I saw something like that when I was googling around
[11:07] <zomaar> yeah TJ
[11:07] <zomaar> that's him
[11:07] <pinga> to reset battery configs or something
[11:08] <tomreyn> you can get the bios version using "sudo dmidecode --type bios" and the laptop model using "sudo dmidecode --type baseboard"
[11:08] <zomaar> You get something like this: acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2006\""
[11:08] <zomaar> in the grub command line
[11:09] <tomreyn> http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[11:10] <zomaar> apparently acpi_osi="Windows 2006" would be sufficient, or Windows 2012
[11:10] <tomreyn> but just testing with windows installer is probably easier for a first step
[11:11] <tomreyn> well, not easier, but more telling
[11:11] <zomaar> I'd suggest putting acpi_osi="Windows 2006" immediately in /etc/default/grub and giving it a go
[11:12] <pinga> wow that's really something
[11:12] <pinga> zomaar: thanks heaps
[11:12] <zomaar> update-grub, reboot, see if it happens, otherwise reboot to Windows ISO
[11:14] <zomaar> oh yeah you cannot put it in grub default without the ! and the quotes
[11:14] <zomaar> but you can try it while booting of course (press E to edit the grub menu)
[11:16] <pinga> Yeah I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestions (:
[11:17] <zomaar> What does your "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort" give? Just curious
[11:19] <pinga> Microsoft Windows NT
[11:19] <pinga> Windows 2001
[11:19] <pinga> Windows 2001 SP1
[11:19] <pinga> Windows 2001 SP2
[11:19] <pinga> Windows 2006
[11:19] <pinga> Windows 2009
[11:19] <tomreyn> !paste | pinga
[11:20] <pinga> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zwNkTv93GP/
[11:20] <pinga> sorry for the flood
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:38] <erle-> oerheks, still no Firefox in Ubuntu oO
[11:38] <erle-> *Firefox 61
[11:39] <tomreyn> erle-: you can download it from mozilla if you prefer
[11:41] <erle-> tomreyn, that's not the problem, the problem is that hundred thousands of users have unpatched vulnerabilities for five days now
[11:41] <erle-> unpatched and /published/
[11:47] <tomreyn> erle-: exploits / detailed technical descritions published?
[11:47] <tomreyn> erle-: but yes, faster patch cycles on web browsers would be great to have.
[12:02] <erle-> tomreyn, a new publish version is considered a detailed publication
[12:02] <erle-> tomreyn, you can diff the Firefox code and see where the problem is
[12:02] <erle-> tomreyn, that's what Patchdays are for: everybody patches roughly at the same time before detailed publication
[12:03] <erle-> it is not about faster
[12:03] <erle-> it is about the fact that it has been released outside of Ubuntu
[12:03] <erle-> if it were not released, there would be no problem
[12:04] <tomreyn> erle-: i understand this perspective and share it for the most part.
[12:05] <brainwash> bug 1779442
[12:06] <tomreyn> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-12359.html
[12:06] <tomreyn> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-12360.html
[12:06] <tomreyn> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2018/CVE-2018-12361.html
[12:07] <tomreyn> etc, see https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-15/
[12:08] <brainwash> available via snap https://snapcraft.io/firefox
[12:11] <erle-> tomreyn, I also don't get why
[12:12] <erle-> tomreyn, Firefox has Betas and Release Candidates, the Ubuntu team is not suprised by sudden Firefox releases
[12:12] <erle-> also this release has a lot less compability breakage than previous releases (57 etc.
[12:12] <erle-> )
[12:12] <brainwash> erle-: maybe you could offer your help then
[12:13] <erle-> brainwash, what is there to do for someone who has no permission on the repos?
[12:14] <erle-> it just looks like the guy responsible is just on vacation, and did not notice that Firefox planned a release that day even though it was probably widely published
[12:14] <erle-> brainwash, also that's why I am bringing it up here, maybe the maintainer has a good reason, of course, but it is not published anywhere
[12:15] <brainwash> here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam#Communication
[12:16] <erle-> brainwash, > last updated 2015
[12:16] <tomreyn> /j #ubuntu-hardened
[12:16] <erle-> > roadmap last updated 2011
[12:16] <brainwash> woah
[12:17] <brainwash> so, more reason to get involved then
[12:17] <alumno_> hola
[12:17] <tomreyn> hi
[12:18] <tomreyn> !es | alumno_
[12:18] <brainwash> erle-: I assume that they will switch to delivering firefox via snap by default at some point
[12:18] <erle-> that would be even worse
[12:18] <erle-> then you don't even get dependency updates in time
[12:19] <brainwash> not sure what that means
[12:19] <erle-> snap is completely absurd, 20-MB apps take 300 MB as snaps
[12:19] <brainwash> you'll get new firefox on day 1
[12:19] <brainwash> or 2
[12:20] <brainwash> >Size 203.0 MB
[12:20] <brainwash> I think that's pretty fair for something like firefox
[12:21] <alumno__> how to download mozilla firefox?
[12:21] <erle-> brainwash, the tarball from Mozilla is 50.0 MB
[12:21] <erle-> https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/firefox/releases/61.0/linux-x86_64/de/firefox-61.0.tar.bz2
[12:22] <erle-> alumno__, use that link
[12:22] <erle-> make sure that it really is Mozilla and that you are using HTTPS, alumno__
[12:22] <skinux> I can't find package for ext-gd
[12:27] <c0mrade> Okay, who's got some time to help me on a certain project? It involves working with multiple dbs, python and php....
[12:39] <hg> hello
[12:59] <tomreyn> c0mrade: if you have ubuntu support questions, just ask them. there's not much use in erecting an artificial barrier where people need to agree to be part of something before you will open up to them.
[13:00] <tomreyn> that's unless you were looking to hire someone, in which case this is not the right place.
[13:12] <medard> How to remedy screen tearing in dekstop and browser? It doesn't happen in games or video, only when i'm scrolling browser or some pdf.
[13:17] <pauljw> medard, if you're using firefox, try disabling smooth scrolling.  not sure about the pdf, but that fixed firefox for me.
[13:21] <adrian_1908> medard: which Ubuntu version and flavor?
[13:44] <duncan213> hello everyone
[13:50] <mnr200> Does 18.04 stable yet?
[13:51] <duncan213> ^???
[13:52] <tomreyn> mnr200: it should be, since its release, it's an LTS version
[13:52] <mnr200> duncan213, I'm currently using Ubuntu 16.04 and want to upgrade to 18.04
[13:52] <pavlos> skinux: have you tried, sudo apt install php-gd ?
[13:53] <tomreyn> mnr200: uogrades are not yet supported. i t will be starting ~ 18.04.1
[13:54] <mnr200> tomreyn, so how safe is to switch 18.04 instead of 18.04.1, or should I just wait for that?
[13:54] <juslintek> Hi, how to make huge VPN list loading faster or async, for example loads first 5 other can be filtered, on gnome?
[13:55] <juslintek> Because I've imported all nordvpn vpn profiles and every time I open system ultities and switch to network tab it hangs up.
[13:55] <tomreyn> mnr200: it's not supported, yet. some people have done it nevertheless, and those not using nvidia drivers didnt seem to run into a lot a issues. up to you.
[13:56] <juslintek> sorry not system utilities, but system, on Ubuntu 18.04
[13:56] <juslintek> Desktop*
[13:56] <mnr200> tomreyn, got it, thanks!
[13:57] <tomreyn> juslintek: what's the purpose of having > 5 VPN configurations?
[14:02] <juslintek> tomreyn, to prevent System panel hangging, while it tries to load 10 000 VPN servers list. :(
[14:03] <juslintek> I've imported all profiles using nmcli inside for loop or profiles list.
[14:04] <juslintek> And now system panel hangs up, when initiated.
[14:05] <juslintek> tomreyn, oh you mean why I should use more then 5 alternate vpn networks? Its for special services that can only be access via those countries. Basically for monitoring purposes.
[14:07] <tomreyn> juslintek: you do service monitoring from a desktop comuter?
[14:07] <juslintek> tomreyn, whats the purpose of this question? How is it even related to the problem? Is it some trolling pick up line?
[14:08] <ioria> sweet
[14:08] <tomreyn> it's an unusual use case, you are probably the first person to ever import 10K VPN profiles to network manager. so i'm wondering why you would, and whether there can be a better approach. trying to help yoiu, you know.
[14:10] <juslintek> tomreyn, everything is automatized, but I manage monitoring settings, for streaming data to our main service, which is access only locally from our office. Okay imagine city scale intranets, which are used per town administration of different sectors all over the world. And we provide these services to them, but sometimes they have issues or we have changes in server settings so need to connect and tweak those settings for them.
[14:12] <juslintek> And on some countries those services are hosted on windows machine, so need to connect via locally identifiable ip and then access from there web panel.
[14:12] <tomreyn> juslintek: okay, but why do you monitor this from a desktop computer?
[14:13] <juslintek> tomreyn, I'm not monitoring. I'm tweaking settings. But the services I'm tweaking settings are for minotoring basically graphana type of monitoring.
[14:14] <juslintek> Grafana
[14:14] <juslintek> Okay lets change the question. Is there any alternative system panels for gnome?
[14:15] <juslintek> Or is there possibility to tweak their settings, maybe there are some alternative ui display methods?
[14:15] <tomreyn> juslintek: you should probably have one headless system which sets up the vpn connection (and may store many openvpn - i assume - profiles). and then another system which runs a graphical desktop which then connect to the remote network though this headless server.
[14:20] <juslintek> tomreyn, I could, but I will not. I have no business level permissions to change that, everyone else is using mac, which has nordvpn client which already store all services and displays in performance friendly manner.
[14:21] <juslintek> And they are probably only going to release linux UI in future, because minority of paid customers are from Linux and guess they use it for some other purposes, which do not require UI.
[14:25] <tomreyn> juslintek: are you saying the macs have those 10K VPN profiles configured and their GUI doesn't lag while importing them?
[14:25] <tomreyn> ...or while using them
[14:26] <juslintek> tomreyn, yep, because it picks them up async, via filter,  lag, very fast. ;-)
[14:26] <tomreyn> if so, i suggest you post a feature request discussing why you need this with higher performance, and that it already works on a mac.
[14:27] <juslintek> Cool, will do that.
[14:29] <juslintek> tomreyn, where should I do that?
[14:29] <juslintek> Maybe I can do it myself, where is the repo of that, then I can ask for pull request. :-D
[14:30] <juslintek> Because I think it not that hard to do. just need to load max 5 via abc profiles while above there should be a filter which on keyinput starts changing those 5 with other 5 profiles, depending on they letters entered.
[14:36] <Neomex> anyone here developing games on linux? what do you use? im trying to setup monogame but their content pipeline is killing me
[14:38] <juslintek> Neomex, you're wasting time. Drivers are not game engine ready. Go back to windows.
[14:39]  * Neomex cries
[14:45] <juslintek> If you'll develop on ubuntu, you'll be missing out on latest features and will have to struggle with continious render lag.
[14:45] <EriC^^> just call the game continious render lag and make a thing out of it
[14:46] <Neomex> ill call my company that
[14:46] <Neomex> CRL
[14:46] <Neomex> i like it
[14:47] <Neomex> well i guess i have to download bunch of crap to make windows usable now
[14:51] <leftyfb> justache: please don't do that. If you don't like Ubuntu or it's abilities, then please keep it to yourself
[14:51] <leftyfb> juslintek: ^
[14:51] <justache> ok sorry :')
[14:51] <justache> er.. :'(
[14:54] <skinux> Is Unity SDK completely geared toward game development?
[14:54] <leftyfb> skinux: that's not an ubuntu support question. Contact Unity
[15:05] <stobrendo> Hi there. I've installed lubuntu and have 2 problems with it. First one is that I don't have audio at all and second one is that whenever I play any video on any browser (html5), the video is choppy (it struggles and "jumps"), but when I download that exact same video and play it with VLC It plays perfectly. I haven't a clue on how could I fix it, audio isn't muted (already checked in alsamixer and
[15:06] <stobrendo> pavucontrol), headphones are working and already did `modprobe pcspkr`, also already installed lubuntu-restricted-extras , ubuntu-restricted-extras vpx-tools, wavpack, gnome-alsamixer and i965-va-driver. What else could be missing or wrong_
[15:06] <stobrendo> ?
[15:11] <tomreyn> !audio | stobrendo; this is a bit dated, but might help
[15:12] <tomreyn> stobrendo: about the video playback issue, access this url on firefox: "about:performance", and right-click on a youtube video and select the 'statistics for nerds'
[15:14] <tomreyn> see if this provides some hints on what may be causing the slowdown. also discuss your lubuntu version (lsb_release -ds), kernel version and architecture (cat /proc/version), as well as video hardware and drivers.
[15:18] <stobrendo> tomreyn: sound settings opens me pavucontrol and that seems to be fine. This is my lspci's output : http//ix.io/1fD0 (going to check youtube's nerd stats)
[15:19] <stobrendo> http://ix.io/1fD0
[15:20] <oerheks> !info firefox
[15:22] <tomreyn> stobrendo: can you run "sudo update-pciids", then post "lspci -nn | grep VGA" and lscpu
[15:23] <tomreyn> stobrendo: also, the other questions i asked should be answered, too. ;)
[15:28] <spexi> Hi! I'm using ubuntu 18.04 on my Lenovo Thinkpad W530, and tried to connect laptop to 4k LG tv via minidisplayport. When plugging the cable in, the left side launcher disappears, and laptop screen gets number 1 to mark it as a primary screen. Nothing shows on tv, though
[15:29] <spexi> Mouse moves still. When I unplug, the laptop screen goes black, and nothing happens. Mouse works still.. Any idea whats the problem?
[15:31] <tomreyn> spexi: is this on X or wayland?
[15:32] <tomreyn> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[15:33] <spexi> tomreyn: x11
[15:33] <stobrendo> tomreyn: lspci: http://ix.io/1fDp , lscpu: http://ix.io/1fDq, nerd stats: http://ix.io/1fDC , about:performance http://ix.io/1fDI
[15:34] <tomreyn> spexi: take a look at Xorg.*.log (which is now stored somewhere in your $HOME) and ~/.xsession-errors
[15:35] <stobrendo> it could be i haven't enough ram to play the video on the browser, but I'd be more than happy if I could play it with VLC and hear it
[15:35] <tomreyn> spexi: also comparing xrandr output may help
[15:36] <tomreyn> spexi: oh this is nvidia / optimus. good luck.
[15:37] <spexi> tomreyn: haha, ok.. :D
[15:37] <tomreyn> it may be possible but i wont try to debug it
[15:37] <ioria> stobrendo, is that a table ?
[15:37] <ioria> *tablet
[15:37] <spexi> tomreyn: ok, thanks anyway
[15:38] <spexi> Guess I'll install Win10 to this laptop, because this must be connected to tv
[15:38] <stobrendo> ioria: low cost thomson laptop (SP-NEO14-2WH32)
[15:38] <brainwash> stobrendo: I would test with this extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/h264ify/
[15:39] <furkan> in 18.04, is there any way to stop the notifications from turning on my screen?
[15:39] <ioria> stobrendo, ever worked the audio on that thing ?
[15:40] <stobrendo> ioria: yes
[15:40] <ioria> stobrendo, with linux ,i mean
[15:40] <stobrendo> no xD
[15:40] <ioria> stobrendo, charrytrail issue in my opnion
[15:40] <tomreyn> stobrendo: try !mainline
[15:40] <stobrendo> charrytrail?
[15:40] <stobrendo> !mainline
[15:41] <tomreyn> or i915.alpha_support=1
[15:41] <tomreyn> ...kernel parameter
[15:41] <ioria> cherrytrail not coffee lake
[15:41] <tomreyn> oh right, but mainline may help
[15:42] <ioria> sure
[15:42] <ioria> stobrendo, cherry trail is your cpu https://ark.intel.com/products/93361/Intel-Atom-x5-Z8350-Processor-2M-Cache-up-to-1_92-GHz
[15:44] <ioria> stobrendo, i'am pessimistic, but this guy did it : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1034619/problem-with-audio-device-es8316-and-ubuntu-18-04
[15:53] <stobrendo> the url i'm suppoused to use to download the driver gives an error 400, https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yangxiaohua1977/sound/master
[15:55] <tomreyn> stobrendo: where did you come across this url?
[15:55] <stobrendo> tomreyn: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.koyst.com/manu/114.html&xid=17259,15700022,15700124,15700149,15700168,15700186,15700190,15700201,15700208&usg=ALkJrhiyjrmnhz4t1tp89ClUpcQcSFvYwg
[15:56] <tomreyn> it seems to suggest to download the master branch of this git repository: https://github.com/yangxiaohua1977/sound
[15:56] <tomreyn> so https://github.com/yangxiaohua1977/sound/archive/master.zip
[15:57] <stobrendo> ok thanks
[15:58] <Gegsite> hey
[15:58] <Gegsite> I just updated my 18.04 with latest updates and my resolution after reboot is stuck on 1280x1024 on Xorg
[15:59] <Gegsite> It was 1920x1080 ...
[16:02] <hiya> Ubuntu 18 LTS is listening to port 25 by default
[16:03] <hiya> what could it be? how to stop it?
[16:03] <tomreyn> sudo lsof -i :25
[16:03] <tomreyn> hiya: this should tell
[16:03] <hiya> tomreyn, it says SMTP
[16:03] <hiya> but i never ran it in 16.04
[16:04] <tomreyn> hiya: it's the default smtp server port, though.
[16:04] <stobrendo> tomreyn: so, only way to fix it is messing around with kernels parameters and recompiling? Isn't there any chance of a distro that would work with any hassle? I never imagined it could be possible to have to mess with the kernel in order to make ubuntu work fine
[16:04] <hiya> how to disable that service, tomreyn ?
[16:05] <tomreyn> stobrendo: it's not so much ubuntu or linux that's the problem, it's using hardware by companies which don't provide good linux drivers.
[16:06] <tomreyn> hiya: first you'll need to identify the service. i provided you the command to identify the process, then you can probably identify the service or packages based on that.
[16:07] <hiya> tomreyn, how to check package from PID?
[16:08] <tomreyn> hiya: find out how the process was started: ps ef PID
[16:09] <hiya> /usr/lib/postfix/sbin/master
[16:10] <tomreyn> hiya: this will be the postfix mail server. "dpkg -S /usr/lib/postfix/sbin/master" may help you identify the package, but it should be "postfix"
[16:10] <tomreyn> the service is probably called "postfix", too
[16:12] <hiya> tomreyn,  you rock
[16:13] <hiya> tomreyn,  how do i learn what u just did?
[16:13] <tomreyn> hiya: if you want to know when it was installed, you can zgrep -F postfix /var/log/apt/term.log* | sort -nr
[16:13] <tomreyn> hiya: use ubuntu or other linux distros, primarily from a terminal, for a couple years.
[16:15] <tomreyn> and actually plan to run and maintain services for yourself and friends or other projects (i.e. force yourself to become acquainted with the most important commands for this purpose)
[16:15] <hiya> ok
[16:16] <tomreyn> also watching this chat and learning from others can help. i learn a lot here.
[16:16] <hiya> ok
[16:20] <blackflow> hiya: ubuntu wont teach you the internals of linux distros. run LFS or Gentoo for a while to learn how it's made and how stuff works internally.
[16:21] <Biessie> ubuntu 18.04 - how can i make x11vnc -usepw on default port 5900 run at startup?
[16:21] <Biessie> so i can just vnc anytime i want
[16:24] <ioria> Biessie, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Have_x11vnc_start_automatically_via_systemd_in_any_environment_.28Vivid.2B-.29
[16:24] <Biessie> ioria : ty!
[16:24] <ioria> Biessie, ok
[16:25] <Biessie> ty = thank you
[16:27] <stobrendo> ioria: dmesg | grep 8316 outputs me no failures
[16:27] <stobrendo> > http://ix.io/1biu
[16:28] <ioria> stobrendo, are you sure it's the right paste ?
[16:31] <stobrendo> ioria: sorry it wasn't. Here it is the right one: http://ix.io/1fDT
[16:32] <fishjun2xmac> 888888888884
[16:38] <ioria> stobrendo, sudo lshw -C Multimedia | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:41] <stobrendo> ioria: http://termbin.com/sr62
[16:42] <ioria> stobrendo, no module get loaded
[16:43] <stobrendo> ioria: i did modprobe pcspkr , what module should i load?
[16:43] <ioria> stobrendo, that's another thing, no relation with sound device
[16:44] <ioria> stobrendo, it's the buzzer
[16:45] <stobrendo> ioria: ok, is there any module I should load to fix audio?
[16:45] <ioria> stobrendo, try this :   dmesg | grep -i audio | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:46] <stobrendo> ioria: http://termbin.com/reaa
[16:47] <hans_> think ubuntu server 18.04 may work on a 1GHz Pentium 3 with ~200MB ram from... 1999 or somewhere around there?
[16:47] <flyingtoaster> jeepers
[16:48] <hans_> (if 18.04 depends on SSE2, nope)
[16:50] <john_> hallo
[16:50] <john_> ich bin jetzt da
[16:50] <john_> wo seid ihr alle?
[16:50] <john_> muh?
[16:51] <Guest24659> hallo ?
[16:51] <flyingtoaster> ja?
[16:51] <Guest24659> hi
[16:51] <hans_> isn't there a german ubuntu channel somewhere?
[16:51] <flyingtoaster> maybe
[16:51] <oerheks> !de | hi Guest24659
[16:51] <Guest24659> oh sorry i dont know if there is one
[16:51] <hans_> i'm guessing its german, anyway
[16:51] <Guest24659> yep
[16:52] <Guest24659> so, what's going on here?
[16:52] <Guest24659> help
[16:52] <flyingtoaster> with what?
[16:52] <Guest24659> sorry - i tried to input help as a command
[16:53] <ioria> stobrendo, dmesg | grep -i SST  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:53] <Guest24659> but i guess i am on my way now :-)
[16:53] <Guest24659> slash ...
[16:53] <flyingtoaster>  /help
[16:53] <hans_> Guest24659, well, i need another system running in this house, doesn't need to be fast or anything, the first available computer is an ancient pentium 3 1GHz with.. about 200MB ram, iirc
[16:53] <hans_> haven't been running for years
[16:53] <jamie1> does anyone know if there is a way to add a system overlay? e.g. a source that overlays the desktop that doesn't take interaction but displays information sent to it
[16:54] <Guest24659> a system overlay?
[16:54] <oerheks> conky i guess, the 1st scripting i learned on  linux
[16:54] <stobrendo> ioria: http://termbin.com/9hkm , i'm googlin about what did that thing of LPE and HDMI but found nothing yet
[16:54] <oerheks> !conky
[16:55] <jamie1> I'm trying to display a browser source,  I don't need to interact with it, just see it
[16:55] <oerheks> and tons of examples on ubuntu forum, 2343 pages https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2343
[16:56] <jamie1> when I'm working on stuff I have it open in a different window to the side but always miss the info due to its small and not in direct view
[16:57] <ioria> stobrendo, no idea, try to paste the whole log:   dmesg  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:58] <jamie1> I built an overlay gathering the info and passing it into a non intrusive/ passive display but then realized I don't know how to make it a system overlay
[16:58] <stobrendo> ioria: http://termbin.com/l6ku
[16:59] <jamie1> I know it's a long shot... but I don't have the time to build something to do it and I mainly work in web dev so i suck at system level stuff
[16:59] <artur> hi all
[17:02] <Jonta> artur: Hi
[17:02] <user1_> hi
[17:11] <ioria> stobrendo, go ahead with this anyway : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1034619/problem-with-audio-device-es8316-and-ubuntu-18-04
[17:13] <stobrendo> ioria: ok i'll try. Thanks
[17:41] <persi> hi im running out of options :( https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pjBHn7KxH6/
[17:41] <callMe_Dude> hi
[17:41] <callMe_Dude> where can i get help regarding irc channel?
[17:42] <Biessie> #freenode
[17:43] <jnewt> i have two ubuntu computers, one running 16.04 and one running 18.04.   i have a piece of software that i want to update to the latest version on my 16.04 computer, but apt says it's already up to date even after apt-get update.
[17:43] <mmkumr> I am unable to turn on my bluetooth in Ubuntu 18.04.
[17:44] <ppf> jnewt: what's the software
[17:44] <jnewt> ppf cutecom
[17:44] <ppf> !info cutecom xenial
[17:44] <ppf> that's the version apt has
[17:45] <jnewt> ppf: but i have 0.30.3 on 18.04.   is the newer version not compatible with 16.04?
[17:45] <someone_> Hi
[17:45] <ppf> jnewt: it's not available
[17:45] <someone_> I have a domain and I want make my own mail server on my desktop, when I want receive messages run the mail server, What is the appropriate software for that ?
[17:46] <ppf> someone_: postfix
[17:48] <someone_> ppf Do I need any other software with it ?, I have tried yesterday with NethServer distros but it seems to me complex and need time to configrate .
[17:49] <oerheks> someone_, ask in #ubuntu-server too, you meed postfix, a lot of knowledge to make it safe,  and 24/7 monitoring ..
[17:50] <oerheks>  they will probably say it is not worth the time, just rent a service
[17:50] <someone_> but I don't have ubuntu sever, I'm using Kubuntu 16.04 desktop version .
[17:50] <persi> anyone?
[17:51] <someone_> persi What do you want ?
[17:51] <oerheks> oh, i read you want to run a mailserver
[17:51] <oerheks> just a client; thunderbird
[17:51] <persi> i need to update xenial.not allowing coz of hash mimsmatch
[17:52] <someone_> oerheks No.
[17:52] <someone_> oerheks I mean a program run as a mail server to recive and send the messages insted of buy for mail hosting .
[17:53] <oerheks> so a mailserver it is.
[17:55] <oerheks> you can run that on a desktop, all you need to do is let it run 24/7
[17:55] <someone_> Does that mean I have to install ubuntu server ? I can't  install only a program like Windows .
[17:55] <someone_> Ok
[17:56] <someone_> so the appropriate program is postfix ?
[17:57] <oerheks> yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/email-services.html.en
[17:57] <oerheks> there are other too
[17:57] <oerheks> c/others
[17:57] <someone_> oerheks Thank you so much.
[17:57] <someone_> persi you have to provide more details about the problem.
[17:57] <someone_> ~paste
[17:58] <persi> someone_,  hi im running out of options :( https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pjBHn7KxH6/
[18:00] <someone_> persi read this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116641/how-do-you-fix-apt-get-update-hash-sum-mismatch
[18:00] <someone_> may it help .
[18:00] <persi> someone_, checking...
[18:01] <oerheks> could well be the mirror is now syncing, try again in a few minutes
[18:01] <persi> .
[18:01] <someone_> persi but the the easiest way to fix this is: sudo apt-get clean
[18:01] <someone_> then sudo apt-get update
[18:01] <persi> someone_, done that already
[18:02] <EriC^^> persi: try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*"
[18:02] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get update
[18:02] <persi> EriC^^, done that too
[18:02] <EriC^^> persi: do you know who hosts that repo? seems an internal repo?
[18:03] <kubast2> How can I force an install of a different driver through ubuntu-drivers
[18:03] <kubast2> ?
[18:03] <kubast2> I see I can only do automatic install
[18:03] <persi> EriC^^, you mean where is the server i chose at or download from ?
[18:03] <oerheks> kubast2, use the driver tool in updates, there you might find different nvidia drivers
[18:03] <kubast2> oerheks: kde neon
[18:04] <kubast2> idk where it is
[18:04] <EriC^^> persi: yeah, it says an IP 122.....
[18:04] <oerheks> same place, updates and sources
[18:05] <kubast2> oerheks: where though cause it doesn't have the ubuntu app for updatets?
[18:05] <kubast2> the app they have(discover) doesn't feature driver choosing
[18:05] <kubast2> that is also a store
[18:05] <persi> EriC^^, is this?  Failed to fetch http://122.2.223.138:80/data/0056dfdf4234f769/au.archive.ubuntu.com/
[18:06] <elyon> Hello, i need help with booting options... I just installed ununtu alongside windows 10, but when I boot my pc it starts directly to windows 10, but I want to boot from the gnu grub menu to decide my booting myself...
[18:06] <elyon> thks...
[18:07] <kubast2> oerheks: please direct me literally what app am I looking for
[18:08] <kubast2> if you mean the ubuntu one it is not there by default in kde neon so I'm looking forward to using the tool
[18:08] <andres_> bad idea...i had problems with that last win update...only win worked i installed ubuntu on a full system...and never been happier
[18:08] <kubast2> it seems like a double edged sword to only feature autoinstall in cli tool for the driver especially if someone uses graphics-drivers or xorg-edgers repository
[18:09] <EriC^^> persi: yes
[18:09] <EriC^^> elyon: are you using uefi?
[18:09] <elyon> thks for the comment andres_
[18:11] <oerheks> kubast2, just search for 'driver' and the tool should pop up, else ask in #kubuntu again
[18:11] <elyon> EriC^^: nope, BIOS
[18:12] <elyon> Im logging ubuntu, from the bios booting menu, but i have to log in clicking escape when starting my pc...
[18:13] <EriC^^> elyon: ah, can you pastebin "sudo parted -l" ?
[18:13] <EriC^^> it sounds a lot like uefi
[18:13] <elyon> well, maybe im wrong... yes, hold on a min..
[18:16] <elyon> Eric: Model: ATA HGST HTS541075A9 (scsi)
[18:16] <elyon> Disk /dev/sda: 750GB
[18:16] <elyon> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[18:16] <elyon> Partition Table: gpt
[18:16] <elyon> Disk Flags:
[18:16] <elyon> Number  Start   End    Size   File system  Name                          Flags
[18:16] <coconut_> !paste
[18:17] <EriC^^> elyon: yeah looks like its uefi if you only have 1 hdd
[18:18] <elyon> Eric: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gq9kDRmNsD/
[18:18] <elyon> thks...
[18:18] <elyon> ok, thks for the info... so, what do I have to do?
[18:18] <EriC^^> elyon: what pc model is it?
[18:21] <elyon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h24bmDrCdz/
[18:21] <elyon> theres my info Eric...
[18:21] <EriC^^> elyon: it's a custom built pc?
[18:22] <elyon> nope, original...
[18:22] <EriC^^> is it an hp?
[18:22] <elyon> yes
[18:22] <EriC^^> elyon: ok, type "sudo efibootmgr -v" and pastebin the results
[18:24] <elyon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZNrWvyGFjx/
[18:24] <EriC^^> elyon: type "sudo efibootmgr -A -b 0003"
[18:25] <EriC^^> that'll make windows inactive, if you want to set it back to active later type "sudo efibootmgr -a -b 0003"
[18:26] <EriC^^> elyon: try rebooting after and see if ubuntu boots first
[18:26] <elyon> with that command, my pc will start directly to ubuntu? and then if I want to start windows i just have to type the latter command?
[18:26] <EriC^^> elyon: no, it'll start grub directly and then you can choose
[18:26] <elyon> ohhhh, ok!!! thks...
[18:27] <EriC^^> if you ever want to reset stuff the way they were use the 2nd command
[18:27] <EriC^^> if you remove ubuntu for example
[18:27] <EriC^^> no problem
[18:28] <elyon> ok, ill try, and come back to you in some minutes... you rock! thks!
[18:28] <EriC^^> ok :)
[18:31] <persi> still hopeful :)
[18:31] <EriC^^> persi: do you know the person hosting the repos?
[18:32] <persi> EriC^^, sorry i have no idea
[18:32] <EriC^^> it could be the files are actually wrong on his end, or if there's some caching server between you 2 it has the faulty files
[18:32] <EriC^^> persi: hmm it's a very custom repo
[18:33] <persi> ive read somewhere a guy matches the hash manually but i dont get it well
[18:34] <EriC^^> persi: what does it say for "apt-cache show gcc-5" ?
[18:34] <EriC^^> persi: what does it say for "apt-cache show gcc-5 | grep -i filename" ?
[18:35] <EriC^^> nevermind it's in the paste
[18:35] <EriC^^> im d/l'ing it
[18:36] <persi> ok.cancelling paste
[18:36] <EriC^^> persi: try on your pc "wget -O /tmp/gcc-5 http://122.2.223.138:80/data/0056f6df5b35d922/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-5/gcc-5_5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.10_amd64.deb"
[18:37] <EriC^^> ill do the same we can compare hashes to see if you have a isp/cache problem
[18:37] <EriC^^> persi: type "md5sum /tmp/gcc-5"
[18:37] <elyon> EriC^^: It worked! thaks a-lot!!! :D
[18:37] <persi> 30799c0df80e88c66af0afb46d055438  /tmp/gcc-5
[18:38] <elyon> I appreciate your help very much :) :) :)
[18:38] <EriC^^> elyon: great! no problem :)
[18:38] <persi> EriC^^, BTW tnx a lot for fixing my new installation issue back then.
[18:38] <EriC^^> persi: my hash is different eed9afb7acc7179f40d8f64da3aa50d1  /tmp/gcc-5
[18:39] <elyon> im happy now :P
[18:39] <elyon> how can I talk to youin further questions and issues :P ???
[18:39] <elyon> in this channel only?
[18:40] <EriC^^> elyon: just join here and ask, there are many volunteers in the channel that can help, feel free to join and ask :)
[18:40] <elyon> ok, thks Eric!
[18:40] <EriC^^> yeah this channel is for ubuntu questions, there's a ton of channels for other topics too if you need help with anything else
[18:41] <EriC^^> elyon: sure
[18:41] <elyon> ok, bye!
[18:41] <EriC^^> bye
[18:42] <EriC^^> persi: i guess it's an isp cache problem, you could try bypassing the cache using curl's nocache option and manually copying the file to your ../archives dir so ubuntu uses it instead to install
[18:42] <EriC^^> what do you think?
[18:42] <persi> sounds great.
[18:42] <persi> if only i know how to use curl no cache opt. :D
[18:43] <EriC^^> persi: ok, try "curl -H 'Cache-Control: no-cache' 122.2.223.138:80/data/0056f6df5b35d922/au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-5/gcc-5_5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.10_amd64.deb"
[18:43] <EriC^^> then run md5sum on the file it gives in your current working dir
[18:43] <persi> can i apply that to all hash mismatch?
[18:44] <EriC^^> well i guess so, i've never actually tried this before :P
[18:44] <persi> is it reversible just in case?
[18:44] <EriC^^> yeah sure
[18:44] <EriC^^> no worries :)
[18:44] <persi> i have around 5 hash mismatch
[18:45] <EriC^^> ah, try the gcc one first, curl sometimes doesn't bypass the cache you see
[18:45] <persi> ok.1 moment
[18:46] <persi> will the last command show any download indicator?
[18:47] <EriC^^> is it just giving a ' ?
[18:47] <tsarompy> hey #ubuntu
[18:47] <tsarompy> i got me a question
[18:47] <persi> just a blinking cursor
[18:47] <EriC^^> persi: no it just downloads, just tried it
[18:47] <tsarompy> i have a 1tb external hard drive, would it be possible for me to write an install ISO to one of the partition, and use the other one for storage/backup files?
[18:48] <EriC^^> persi: something is up it doesnt download here either
[18:48] <mima> well
[18:48] <Bashing-om> tsarompy: sure .. just be aware USB speeds are slow .
[18:49] <mima> i think u install it
[18:49] <tsarompy> oh im not gonna install the OS on it im just going to write the install iso to one partition
[18:49] <mima> oo k
[18:50] <Bashing-om> tsarompy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD.
[18:50]  * persi on standby
[18:50] <mima> yeah
[18:50] <tsarompy> i dont necessarily want ubuntu on this drive
[18:51] <tsarompy> i prefer ubuntu but this is for a friend who likes arch
[18:51] <mima> well dint put it
[18:51] <EriC^^> persi: i'm kind of stumped, it keeps downloading a blank file even without the nocache stuff, wget works fine
[18:51] <oerheks> tsarompy, that is only possible if you have grub installed already, isoboot
[18:51] <persi> EriC^^, a conspiracy :D
[18:51] <oerheks> else, ask in arch :-)
[18:51] <EriC^^> lol :D
[18:51] <mima> lol ok
[18:52] <mima> tsarompy,ur friend cant do it himself lol
[18:52] <mima> *?
[18:52] <persi> this hash mismatch made me reinstall ubuntu.sucks bigtime
[18:53] <mima> oo i see persi lol
[18:53] <EriC^^> persi: you could just switch the repos
[18:53] <persi> EriC^^,  you mean change repo servers?
[18:54] <EriC^^> persi: yeah!
[18:54] <persi> already did.. from the nearest.the main.fastest.. still same.
[18:54] <EriC^^> oh
[18:54] <mima> ohh
[18:55] <EriC^^> persi: try the standard ubuntu one
[18:55] <EriC^^> the one called "main" or the "us" one is pretty decent too
[18:55] <Bashing-om> persi: Might consider that the Mergelist files are corrupted . When corrupted, they can be safely deleted. Apt will recreate them during the next apt update.
[18:55] <EriC^^> persi: ah i know why, it's cause the isp has the file cached i guess
[18:55] <persi> EriC^^, changing now
[18:56] <EriC^^> persi: do you have a vps or tor or something? maybe you could download those 5 files from there
[18:56] <persi> Bashing-om, how can i rebuild the mergelist?
[18:56] <persi> EriC^^, if i can install torbrowser maybe?
[18:57] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: he's downloading a file from wget and getting a wrong file, i d/l'd same file and got a different hash, his isp must have cached the faulty version
[18:57] <persi> new app installation is problematic as well
[18:57] <EriC^^> persi: yeah that's a good idea
[18:58] <persi> im opting to install vpn as well
[18:58] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: persi Never the mind then of me poking my nose in here :P
[19:00] <qwebirc88163> Hi, on 16.04 Desktop, sound suddenly stopped working. Now audio devices just show dummy output. None of the internet remedies worked so far.
[19:00] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: feel free anytime :)
[19:00] <persi> Bashing-om, all suggestions are welcome
[19:00] <persi> Package has no installation candidate -- how can i overcome this
[19:02] <Bashing-om> persi: What is the package ? from an UNsupported PPA ?
[19:02] <EriC^^> persi: which package?
[19:02] <learner> hey guys, can anyone here help me with pptp set up?
[19:03] <learner> I have set up a pptp server on an ubuntu 18.04 server, using mschap-v2 and mppe-128. I have no problem logging in and browsing using linux computers, however windows machines can't connect to the server.
[19:04] <learner> I connect, sign in, and then it hangs up when it reaches mppe section
[19:04] <persi> Bashing-om, eric network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[19:05] <Bashing-om> persi: It is there in the repo .
[19:05] <Bashing-om> !info network-manager-openvpn-gnome | bionic
[19:06] <EriC^^> persi: what does "apt-cache policy network-manager-openvpn-gnome" give?
[19:06] <EriC^^> maybe it shows some clue
[19:06] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: persi::  Behind a proxy ?
[19:11] <persi> test mic 1 2 1 2. dc
[19:12] <persi> Bashing-om, eric network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[19:13] <ioria> persi, may i suggest you to nuke your system and reinstall with decent repositories ?
[19:13] <persi> tor browser also having hash mismatch
[19:14] <persi> ioria, already nuke it.this is almost a weeks old fresh installed.waaa
[19:14] <ioria> persi,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit
[19:14] <RoadRunner> could someone help me test video chat with Pidgin?
[19:15] <learner> anyone can help me with my pptp set up problem please?
[19:16] <Bashing-om> !patience | learner
[19:16] <EriC^^> persi: aha, that's interesting
[19:16] <persi> ioria,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tt7Kry72nc/
[19:18] <EriC^^> persi: i could send you the files as a tar package maybe, and you could decompress them and md5sum vs your sources to make sure they're good (and not tampered with)
[19:18] <learner> Bashing-om, i waited for a while before asking again, and i've done all the searching i could do, i've been at this for hours
[19:18] <EriC^^> persi: i can download them on my vps quite easily and give you the link on the webserver
[19:18] <persi> What do they contain?
[19:18] <EriC^^> persi: me?
[19:19] <persi> EriC^^, yes.. tnx for the effort
[19:19] <EriC^^> persi: ok give me the links, i have 2 mismatches for gcc and another cpp-5 only
[19:20] <persi> 1 moment
[19:21] <ioria> persi, where did you get the .iso from ?
[19:21] <persi> EriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pjBHn7KxH6/
[19:21] <persi> ioria, i think i got it from a torrent
[19:22] <Biessie> if i generate a new cronjob does it automatically put it running in the bg?
[19:22] <persi> coz most of the http downloads failed the md5 and cant install on a live usb
[19:23] <Biessie> if i manually run the command without running it in a new screen then detaching it will just shutdown when i close SSH.. just want to make sure the cronjob will be able to run it with the same command and put it in a screen or bg.. however it works
[19:24] <tomreyn> persi: does this return an error message or something else (what?): cat /var/log/installer/media-info;echo
[19:25] <persi> EriC^^, can u include this on your vps also? Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/tor-browser/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 tor-browser amd64 6.5.1-1~webupd8~0 [70.9 MB]
[19:25] <EriC^^> persi: http://185.203.118.160/packages.tar.gz
[19:26] <EriC^^> persi: sure, 1 sec
[19:26] <persi> tomreyn, cat: /var/log/installer/media-info: No such file or directory
[19:26] <tomreyn> a pity
[19:26] <ioria> persi, get a new iso from here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[19:27] <persi> ioria, tnx,visited that site countless times :(
[19:28] <ioria> persi, visited or downloaded the iso ?
[19:28] <persi> visit + DL from http and torrent
[19:29] <EriC^^> persi: http://185.203.118.160/packages1.tar.gz
[19:30] <persi> EriC^^, tnx.DL-ng
[19:30] <ioria> persi, and you don't have a /var/log/installer/media-info file ?
[19:32] <persi> ioria, just checked,none
[19:32] <luxio> when I click on something on the left bar, it always seems to think i'm dragging it
[19:32] <luxio> even though I'm not
[19:32] <luxio> how do I fix this?
[19:32] <raidghost> How can i check chunksize of a ZFS raid?
[19:32] <persi> luxio, sounds like a stuck left mouse click
[19:33] <luxio> persi: my mouse is working fine
[19:37] <persi> EriC^^, tried to backread your instructions,they were gone,can you tell me where to extract these files pls
[19:38] <EriC^^> persi: extract them to /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:38] <persi> and the command for md5 ?
[19:38] <EriC^^> md5sum file.deb
[19:38] <persi> brb
[19:41] <EriC^^> !info gcc-5 xenial
[19:41] <persi> EriC^^, gzip decompression failed
[19:42] <EriC^^> let me try here
[19:44] <EriC^^> persi: it worked here
[19:45] <EriC^^> tar xzvf packages1.tar.gz
[19:45] <EriC^^> is that what you used?
[19:45] <persi> i just right click to decompress.let me try the cli
[19:47] <persi> EriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XVq2Dw4W9n/
[19:49] <EriC^^> persi: what's the size of it?
[19:49] <EriC^^> it should be 185.203.118.160/packages.tar.gz
[19:49] <EriC^^> sorry
[19:49] <EriC^^> 87023873
[19:50] <persi> EriC^^, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mP2xDB6jJF/
[19:51] <EriC^^> hmm, what's the size? maybe it half downloaded or something
[19:52] <persi> 16.1 MB (16,099,729 bytes) --- packages
[19:52] <EriC^^> what about packages1
[19:54] <persi> 87.0 MB (87,023,873 bytes) -- packages1
[19:55] <EriC^^> hmm same here
[19:56] <persi> md5 e1d056992e41d12d187029ab53386e86   and d9865130c6f0d7abdbb2608ea54d1dc5
[19:56] <EriC^^> b7d20c82cc12b8b822a2d3d826ee6ba1  packages1.tar.gz
[19:57] <EriC^^> persi: something odd's going on
[19:57] <EriC^^> persi: are you behind some proxy or something?
[19:57] <persi> thats the md5 of the contents of packages1..let me redo the md5 on the tar file
[19:57] <EriC^^> oh
[19:58]  * Bashing-om dons learning cap as peeks over EriC^^'s shoulder .
[19:58] <persi> e9281f39b0852fcbfcdeb78e50bb5c56
[19:59] <EriC^^> for packages1 ?
[19:59] <persi> yes
[19:59] <EriC^^> weird, maybe the proxy is having some weird issue?
[19:59] <persi> thats for the tar.gz file not the extracted folder
[19:59] <persi> im not behind proxy
[20:00] <persi> will dns server affect downloads?
[20:02] <EriC^^> i dont think so, i mean it's pointing to the correct file and downloading the stuff same bytes but the order seems off (?)
[20:03] <EriC^^> persi: try using "curl -v -o /tmp/packages1.tar.gz 185.203.118.160/packages1.tar.gz"
[20:04] <persi> extraction using terminal returns errors.but folder were extracted containing the files
[20:04] <EriC^^> yeah the file is corrupted, the md5 is off
[20:04] <persi> right clicking the compressed files to uncompress produces nothing but errors and no files
[20:04] <EriC^^> maybe downloading it from the terminal using curl will help
[20:05] <persi> hmm
[20:06] <EriC^^> maybe there's another issue other than the cache persi and that's why the packages apt was having an issue with them
[20:07] <persi> hmm hmm
[20:12] <EriC^^> persi: try downloading this one instead http://94.156.35.227/packages1.tar.xz
[20:12] <EriC^^> use tar xJvf packages1.tar.xz  to decompress
[20:13] <EriC^^> 56157685bcda00c080e620f044006c04  packages1.tar.xz
[20:13] <persi> ok
[20:18] <jnewt> just did an upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and everything seemed to go ok until reboot.   now i'm staring at a blank screen, not sure what to do
[20:19] <EriC^^> jnewt: try booting with nomodeset in grub then tackling driver problems
[20:19] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | jnewt
[20:20] <persi> aae0e327badb00c85b7932c994221484 md5 packages1.tar.xz
[20:21] <EriC^^> persi: hmm, it's also off, did you try with curl?
[20:22] <persi> am not familiar with curl .let me see
[20:22] <EriC^^> persi: are you using the same pc to talk on irc?
[20:22] <persi> yes
[20:22] <EriC^^> ok
[20:23] <jnewt> EricC^^ nothing, same result with nomodeset
[20:23] <persi> may i ask the curl command for the file donwloads pls
[20:23] <jnewt> can i go back to 16.04 or am I stuck having to tackle this today to get a working computer?
[20:24] <EriC^^> persi: curl -v -o /tmp/packages1.tar.xz http://94.156.35.227/packages1.tar.xz
[20:24] <Bashing-om> jnewt: No going back ,,, can you get to the GUI login screen ?
[20:26] <jnewt> nope, i added nomodeset and removed quiet splash.  it's booting and i'm at end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[20:26] <jnewt> and that's where it hangs
[20:26] <jnewt> i have a call trace above if that would help.
[20:28] <jnewt> it does say: Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions: then the next line is Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block
[20:28] <persi> how to find apt version ?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> jnewt: Sorry, a kernel panic is above my pay grade to prosecute :(
[20:28] <persi> im assuming i got the latest apt
[20:29] <EriC^^> !info apt xenial
[20:29] <EriC^^> persi: apt-cache policy apt    should show
[20:29] <Bashing-om> persi: ' dpkg -l apt ' .
[20:30] <jnewt> hope my windows partition still works.
[20:30] <persi> i think curl completed the dl
[20:30] <EriC^^> persi: cool, try to md5 it
[20:31] <EriC^^> persi: if it doesn't give the 15...md5 could you pastebin curl's web output?
[20:32] <persi> where do curl store its downloaded files?
[20:32] <EriC^^> persi: it should be in /tmp/packages1.tar.gz
[20:32] <persi> ok
[20:32] <EriC^^> sorry
[20:32] <EriC^^> /tmp/packages1.tar.xz
[20:33] <persi> np
[20:33] <persi> f40ee56105a5658b76e971e6bb341d4f  /tmp/packages1.tar.xz
[20:33] <EriC^^> different md5 again :D
[20:34] <persi> conspiracy.. :D
[20:34] <EriC^^> lol
[20:34] <jnewt> there's several posts about this with no answers
[20:34] <persi> dnscrypt doesnt interfere with downloads?
[20:35] <jnewt> oh, i can boot with previous kernel, it's just the 4.15 one that borks everything
[20:35] <EriC^^> no idea, did curl give any interesting stuff persi ?
[20:36] <EriC^^> persi: perhaps try downloading the files from a live usb to see if it's a software or network issue?
[20:36] <persi> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/65kRKKr9Mp/
[20:38] <persi> EriC^^, ok.let me DL the latest iso as well for the live
[20:39] <EriC^^> ok
[20:42] <persi> thanks eric and all.. gtg
[20:46] <EriC^^> persi: no problem, bye
[20:47] <jeremies> I have one server and one client that connects to the server with ssh. There is a way to server accept only connections that are verified by a human ?
[20:50] <strive> jeremies: So the client is using ssh to connect to the server?
[20:51] <jeremies> strive: yes
[20:51] <strive> jeremies: Verified by a human...do you mean password protected?
[20:51] <oerheks> verified how? password & ssh key, or interaction from someone else?
[20:52] <jeremies> strive: something like https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/sharing-desktop.html (New connections must ask for access)
[20:56] <strive> Yea...I don't see anything ssh related on that page.
[20:56] <strive> From my understanding, it's either you have access to an ssh server or you don't.
[20:56] <strive> Unless, of course someone knows of something.
[20:58] <gambl0re> how do i search for a folder?
[20:59] <hggdh> strive: you can set a SSH server to publick key (or public key *and* password) in such a way that the initial login will require the server sysadmins to manually add the public key for the account
[20:59] <strive> Right.
[20:59] <strive> But, desktop sharing?
[21:00] <hggdh> strive: what with desktop sharing?
[21:00] <strive> I normally just use ssh-copy-id.
[21:00] <strive> hggdh: Just referring to jeremies issue.
[21:01] <jeremies> strive: The server is located in a non trusted local network and I only want that a trusted computer can connect to the server
[21:01] <hggdh> jeremies: so you do like I pointed above.
[21:01] <hggdh> strive: sorry, did not read the backlog
[21:02] <strive> gambl0re: Using -type d will narrow down the search to directories.
[21:02] <strive> hggdh: No biggie.
[21:02] <gambl0re> so how would i do that in the cmd line?
[21:03] <jnewt> can anyone tell me if i need the _all headers or just the _amd64 deb files for installing a kernel (i know i need the image and the modules)  and what drawback there is to the lowlatency versions of the image and modules?  low latency sounds good, but there's a choice, so there has to be a drawback right?
[21:03] <hggdh> gambl0re: find /dire -type d -name blahblah
[21:03] <strive> jeremies: Generate a priv/pub key and throw the pub key on the server.
[21:04] <oerheks> jnewt, use the mainline debs, or the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[21:04] <strive> gambl0re: You could look on the entire system: find / -iname Documents -type d
[21:04] <strive> I think...
[21:04] <strive> heh
[21:04] <jnewt> oerheks: this is a choice within the mainline debs
[21:04] <oerheks> good to switch from ##linux back here again, but i see that as misuse of the volunteers
[21:05] <jeremies> hggdh: but crackers can break the ssh security if ssh is not updated ?
[21:05] <gambl0re>  find /dire -type d -name openshot_qt     returns find: ‘/openshot_qt’: No such file or directory
[21:05] <oerheks> oh, it is all explained at the mainline wiki, what kernel package and in what order
[21:06] <hggdh> gambl0re: replace /dire with the directory you want
[21:06] <gambl0re>  find /openshot_qt -type d -name openshot_qt
[21:06] <gambl0re> like that?
[21:06] <hggdh> gambl0re: yes
[21:07] <gambl0re>  find /openshot_qt -type d. still says no file or directory
[21:07] <gambl0re> even if i put a folder that im 100% sure i do have, still returns no file or directory
[21:08] <gambl0re> so maybe the command is not working on xubuntu
[21:08] <pugthelouie> does anyone know how to make a debian package from source on Ubuntu GNOME?
[21:08] <oerheks> !build
[21:08] <pugthelouie> ah
[21:08] <oerheks> good start
[21:09] <pugthelouie> kekj
[21:10] <gambl0re> any ideas?
[21:10] <oerheks> gambl0re, how about it is not there?
[21:10] <oerheks> :-D
[21:11] <gambl0re> oerheks, i just said, that i tried searching for a folder that im sure i do have and still returns: no file or directory
[21:11] <hggdh> gambl0re: then you (1) are giving the wrong directory for stat; (2) are looking at the wrong filesystem
[21:12] <oerheks> try something like openshot* if you are not sure about the folder name
[21:12] <hggdh> or just try find / -type d -name whatever
[21:12] <EriC^^> gambl0re: maybe it's not a dir you're looking at
[21:12] <gambl0re> i found the folder. its actually a hidden folder. not sure if that commands includes hidden dir's but thanks anyways
[21:12] <EriC^^> does it work without -type ?
[21:12] <oerheks> yes, thanks to jim :-D
[21:12] <oerheks> lolz
[21:13] <oerheks> playing 2 helpchannels, really nifty
[21:33] <jnewt> how do i change what desktop environment starts on boot.  i just installed cinnamon, but it keeps booting to mate and i can't remember what i did on 16.04 (just upgraded to 18.04) to get it to change.
[21:38] <jnewt> i changed session=mate to session=cinnamon in ~/.dmrc with the only effect being i can't logout now.
[21:38] <strive> jnewt: If you're using a display manager, there should be an option there to choose.
[21:39] <arrakis> hi
[21:40] <arrakis> im ubuntu user
[21:40] <arrakis> how can i chat to person on my ubuntu
[21:40] <jnewt> strive, i think ubuntu uses lightdm as the default right?  if so, i think maybe that's what i'm using?
[21:40] <arrakis> do you know how program console
[21:41] <arrakis> i can use
[21:42] <oerheks> jnewt, click you account name first, then the option would appear to change DE
[21:43] <oerheks> not great by design, IMHO
[21:44] <jnewt> oerheks, when i click account name, i get a dropdown with Other... as my other option
[21:44] <jnewt> it has green outlines and appears to be themed like mate
[21:46] <jpleau> Hi, trying to boot any of ubuntu flavors for 18.04 result in these messages and then I'm dropped to busybox shell: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jr4BZqft8P/ -- I can boot gparted live / debian stable just fine. Any ideas? It's on an old laptop, Toshiba Satellite A5
[21:46] <Bashing-om> jnewt: (u)buntu 18.04 - at the password screen is a gear icon on the lower right . - has a drop down of the session to start .
[21:48] <jnewt> Bashing-om : not mine.  i have a picture of a head, drop down for user password entry and a single button in the lower right that says "Log In"
[21:53] <jnewt> i'm thinking this installation was originally ubuntu-mate.   now it's forcing me back after my upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04
[21:54] <EriC^^> jpleau: do you have another usb you can try?
[22:02] <jpleau> EriC^^: what do you mean by another usb?
[22:06] <oerheks>  Intel pentium M , GMA900 .. maybe lubuntu will ru on that single core
[22:06] <oerheks> c/run
[22:17] <EriC^^> jpleau: for the live usb you're using to install
[22:33] <myself> I recently replaced my laptop's main SSD, so the old drive (with my encrypted ubuntu 16.04 installation on it) is now hanging off an external USB interface. When I plug it into my (fresh 18.04) system now, it prompts me for a password, which I supply.....and then nothing happens.
[22:34] <myself> I tried manually mounting it as per step 7 here https://www.loganmarchione.com/2015/05/encrypted-external-drive-with-luks/#Step_7_8211_Mount_device but I get "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
[22:34] <myself> I feel like I'm missing something boneheaded with the mounting, but I don't really know where to start. Any pointers are appreciated!
[22:35] <jpleau> EriC^^: I tried them all. I ended up using an archlinux iso to isntall grub, and install the .ISO to another partition, and booting from disk instead
[22:41] <jnewt> updated to 18.04 today  had to get rid of the kernel and update to 4.17 due to panic on boot  now i'm left with: 1.  can't figure out how to get cinnamon to start automatically, stuck in mate  2.  can't browse windows network (no error)  3.   can't run software requiring usb (libusb couldn't open USB device Permission denied libusb requires write access to USB device nodes).
[22:42] <oerheks> sounds like you run mint, jnewt ??
[22:42] <jnewt> what?  no, ubuntu
[22:43] <myself> Oooooooh. I wonder if the problem is that both the old and new disks both have partitions claiming to be part of 'ubuntu-vg' group, but they're not actually the same VG..
[22:43] <jnewt> just want some help so i can get back to work.
[22:45] <oerheks> using an mainline kernel can give unforseen issues, now you want us to get things back to as it was,..
[22:45] <oerheks> backup data and reinstall
[22:46] <EriC^^> jpleau: oh
[22:46] <jnewt> oerheks, me?
[22:46] <EriC^^> jpleau: sounds good
[22:47] <oerheks> jnewt, yes, if you want to get back to work fast.
[22:49] <jnewt> i can go back to the kernel that came with the upgrade, but it won't boot.  what kernel do you suggest?
[22:53] <Viking667> Hi all. What's the difference between mlocate and updatedb? My system seems to run updatedb.findutils and then updatedb.mlocate
[22:54] <myself> Here's a paste of my situation: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yQdhnV9GNt/ So, sda is my main disk on internal SATA, sdb is the old disk now on USB. Last time I worked with partitions at this level was 1996 so I don't quite have a good mental model of the end-state I should be aiming for, so it's tricky to get there. I need to get the sdb5 to be mounted like sda5 is, but.... how is that?
[23:29] <oerheks> yay 0.32 https://community.ubuntu.com/t/mir-0-32-0-release/6774
[23:50] <Biessie> Anyone know why my ISP would block (im assuming its blocked) any connections to my WAN IP from inside the network? It doesn't allow me to see anything from inside the LAN but it allows people to outside.. Thats everything. SSHD/FTPD/APACHE2/VNC/etc
[23:50] <Biessie> i can access any server using LAN ip:port but i can not using WAN ip:port