[04:05] <denza242> help
[04:05] <denza242> when I click on anything that isn't konversation it always switches back to konversation
[04:05] <denza242> did i maybe press a hotkey or something
[04:07] <denza242> and now it's not?
[04:22] <denza242> nvm
[04:22] <denza242> i think it was my mouse getting pressed inside my backpack
[05:20] <somekool> Thank you for pushing 5.12.6 to backports
[06:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:07] <acheronuk> somekool: you're welcome
[08:14] <newrg> Hello,I recently installed Kubuntu 18.04 and boot takes up about a minute and shows some errors.I did some search and found this https://paste.debian.net/1031636/
[08:14] <newrg> Please help.
[08:15] <diogenes_> newrg, run: systemd-analyze blame
[08:16] <diogenes_> it will show you the services that take up the most time to load
[08:16] <newrg> I ran it and the results are in the pastebin link I gave.
[08:16] <newrg> dev-sda1 takes up about 20 sec,so is my hard disk corrupted?
[08:17] <newrg>  20.250s dev-sda1.device      16.045s apparmor.service        11.194s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
[08:18] <diogenes_> and what os did you have before?
[08:19] <newrg> I used Linux Mint 18.3 before and it also took about a minute to load.
[08:19] <diogenes_> you got an SSD or HDD?
[08:19] <newrg> HDD
[08:20] <diogenes_> then about a minute is nothing bad
[08:20] <diogenes_> if you had an SSD, you'd boot in maximum 10 seconds
[08:23] <newrg> during the boot it throws errors like the one's I listed in the paste link,is this some hardware issue?
[08:26] <diogenes_> newrg, if everything works as it should then those errors are safe to ignore.
[08:29] <newrg> alright,thanks
[08:32] <newrg> one more thing,I have Kubuntu installed on Legacy BIOS,secure boot : off ; when I tried to move to UEFI BIOS- I was unable to do so.On running diagnostic,it shows Hard Disk self-test unsucessful,terminated.
[09:58] <Mike_Pooh> Hi All
[11:05] <R13ose> How do I disable trackpad sounds on Linux from going into my mic?  I don't want others to hear the noise
[11:07] <lordievader> Get an external microphone.
[11:12] <R13ose> Is that the only way?
[11:17] <lordievader> Well, I suppose your mic is built in and close to the trackpad. Correct?
[11:19] <R13ose> Correct
[11:20] <hateball> R13ose: I suppose you could enable tap-to-click rather than actual pressing down
[11:21] <R13ose> hateball: how?
[11:21] <hateball> R13ose: in the touchpad settings
[11:22] <hateball> I am not sure if it is possible on Wayland, if you are running that
[11:24] <R13ose> I am on x11 but I see no tap-to-click
[11:31] <hateball> R13ose: typically it is the default
[11:31] <hateball> meaning if you tap with one finger it is left click, tap with two and it is rightclick
[11:31] <hateball> no need to press down on the toucpad
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:31] <hateball> but that also depends on the touchpad hardware
[11:36] <R13ose> Everything is gray in taps except the mouse click emulation box.
[11:42] <joeman1> .
[11:46] <hateball> R13ose: yeah, it's called mouse click emulation
[11:46] <hateball> R13ose: maybe it looks different on 18.04, I am on 16.04 still
[11:47] <R13ose> Yes but why everything else in that setting not working?
[12:02] <newrg> hello,I am using Kubuntu 18.04 and tap to select is not working for my mousepad,is this standard behavior?
[12:16] <hateball> newrg: if you are using wayland I think it is
[12:17] <hateball> https://wayland.freedesktop.org/libinput/doc/latest/tapping.html
[12:19] <newrg> how to tell I'm using wayland? I wrote this in Terminal  echo $DESKTOP_SESSION and it returned plasma
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !wayland | newrg
[12:24] <BluesKaj> newrg, wayland is not installed by default on kubuntu
[12:24] <diogenes_> BluesKaj, and which is in beta for about 10 years :)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> diogenes_,heh, yeah, and not in the running for those who use nvidia gpus
[12:25] <diogenes_> exactly :)
[12:25] <newrg> BluesKaj, I did not install wayland or something else on Kubuntu then why is tap disabled?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> tap?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> oh your mousepad
[12:28] <newrg> I am unable to tap to select on my mousepad so hateball suggested that it might be due to wayland
[12:29] <BluesKaj> well, wayland is installed only if you choose to so after the kubuntu install, so it wouldn't be wayland  unless you forgot thast you installed it
[12:29] <BluesKaj> to do so rather
[12:30] <newrg> I installed Kubuntu 18.04 today only.I did install third-party software as suggested in the installation itself and the updates which came after installation.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> then take alook at your login page and check your options to see if wayland is available, but I doubt that it's there
[12:33] <diogenes_> newrg, run in terminal: apt list --installed | grep synaptic
[12:33] <diogenes_> paste here what you get but ONLY if there's less than 3 lines
[12:34] <newrg> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/bionic,now 1.9.0-1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed]
[12:34] <newrg> I got this diogenes_
[12:35] <newrg> BluesKaj, wayland is not available
[12:35] <diogenes_> newrg, try: sudo apt remove xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[12:35] <BluesKaj> synaptics must be installed
[12:36] <diogenes_> on some machines it works better with libinput on others with synaptic
[12:36] <newrg> diogenes_, I did it.Next?
[12:36] <diogenes_> power off the machine and then start it over again
[12:37] <newrg> alright
[12:37] <BluesKaj> synaptic is a package manager, and Synaptics is an input driver found in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, an unfortunate choice of names there
[12:40] <newrg> diogenes_, I did it.Please tell what to do next?
[12:41] <diogenes_> newrg, now test if the mousepad works as it supposed to
[12:41] <newrg> diogenes_, It doesn't.
[12:41] <diogenes_> then most likely the driver doesn't support all the features for your device
[12:44] <newrg> I am using Dell Inspiron 15 3567.Could it be that my mousepad is faulty?but all the other functionality is working.
[12:45] <diogenes_> newrg, how old is your dell?
[12:45] <newrg> around 6 months,it's still under warranty
[12:46] <diogenes_> yeah, then most likely you need to wait for 18.10 that will bring support for the most recent hardware
[12:47] <BluesKaj> newrg, try reinstalling synaptics after updating and upgrading with apt
[12:48] <diogenes_> good idea ^^^
[12:48] <newrg> diogenes_, but I think this model launched in 2016/17
[12:49] <diogenes_> newrg, try: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[12:49] <newrg> BluesKaj, alright
[12:49] <diogenes_> then reboot
[12:49] <BluesKaj> newrg, yeah your mousepad should work, the HW isn't really new
[12:50] <diogenes_> yes if it's 2016 then it should work, also i'd suggest to try a live session of 16.04 kubuntu
[12:50] <diogenes_> might work better
[12:51] <newrg> diogenes_, installed,I hope reboot will make it work or I will try 16.04
[12:51] <diogenes_> yep try
[12:52] <BluesKaj> io what was that other touchpad app you mentioned?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> diogenes_,^
[12:52] <diogenes_> BluesKaj, touchpad app?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> found it libinput
[12:53] <diogenes_> oh, it's a new driver meant to replace the old xorg synaptics one
[12:54] <BluesKaj> diogenes_, well that's what my 4 yr old lenovo uses by default, just checked
[12:54] <newrg> diogenes_, BluesKaj It worked!Thank you so much.
[12:54] <BluesKaj> on 18.04
[12:55] <BluesKaj> newrg, cool :-)
[12:55] <diogenes_> nice nice
[12:56] <newrg> :)
[12:59] <BluesKaj> my touchpad skills suck , always use a wireless mouse :-)
[13:00] <diogenes_> hehe, at home i use mouse, at work touchpad because it's faster and more productive :)
[13:00] <newrg> BluesKaj, yes,I use a wireless mouse that's why it took me so long to realize something is wrong with my touchpad(I installed the distro few hours ago)
[13:00]  * BluesKaj nods
[13:02] <BluesKaj> i used desktops at work before retirement, laptops were in their infancy back then and very expensive
[13:03] <diogenes_> oh i guess it was like 1997 - 2000
[13:03] <newrg> BluesKaj, must be hard troubleshooting at that time?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> we started using windows pcs in the early 90sthe first laptop I recall seeing was around '97 as you say diogenes_
[13:05] <diogenes_> yes they were damn expensive
[13:06] <BluesKaj> The IT/admin guys in the computer dept looked after troubleshooting , we had no IT guy in our lab at that time
[13:07] <newrg> BluesKaj, then how did you manage?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> we'd call the computer dept  :-)
[13:09] <newrg> oh good ;D
[13:10] <BluesKaj> I used application designed computers which were mostly dos with a lab instrument application running on top
[13:12] <BluesKaj> companies likw Perkin-Elmer and Varian wrote thier apps or hired someoen to do so, I guess
[13:12] <BluesKaj> wasn't much interested in computers back then, they were just a tool
[13:14] <newrg> BluesKaj, only DOS,must be tough
[13:17] <BluesKaj> the computers ran the instruments quite well, since they were application dedicated, most of the problems weren't software related, they were hardware related
[13:18] <BluesKaj> which we learned how to fix, most of the time
[13:19] <newrg> BluesKaj, oh now I get it since they were application dedicated,the scope of the machine was limited unlike modern computers which can do so many things
[13:19] <BluesKaj> yup, exactly
[14:49] <eeos> I do not seem to be able to activate a sound equalizer on kubuntu 18.04 64 bit .... any clue of what I should do?
[14:50] <eeos> I am of course using pulseudio, and can use either gstreamer or vlc as backend.
[14:50] <eeos> The laptop is Thinkpad Yoga X1 Carbon
[14:51] <hateball> eeos: do you mean systemwide?
[14:51] <diogenes_> eeos, u using pulse-equalizer
[15:09] <eeos> hateball: yes, systemwide
[15:10] <eeos> hateball: if I test using front left and front right in my stereo headset, I hear both the front left (right) in both ears
[15:10] <hateball> eeos: I am not on my 18.04 machine atm, I cant recall if pulseaudio-equalizer is nicely packaged or not
[15:11] <hateball> or if you perhaps need to load that module manually
[15:11] <eeos> hateball: deinitively not .... you cannot even launch it!
[15:12] <hateball> eeos: it's in universe it seems
[15:12] <hateball> anyhow, I sadly do not have access to a 18.04 atm, and I must leave. hopefully someone else can help you
[15:12] <eeos> hateball: thank you all the same! syl
[15:27] <eeos>  /msg NickServ identify p0l8e7a0
[18:23] <eeos> hi everybody! My laptop (Thinkpad X1 Yoga Carbon) battery consumption has gove through the roof after update from 17.10 to 18.04?
[22:21] <fscale> Hey folks, I can't seem to find a way to disable automatic update checks at start? https://i.imgur.com/ad0UrgI.png Is there a way to disable it?
[22:23] <aqmal> hi, this is a test message
[22:23] <fscale> your test message was successful.
[22:23] <aqmal> [chuckles]
[22:49] <fscale> Hello? Anyone here? fscale to Kubuntu community, do you copy?
[23:24] <_rschalch> hello fscale
[23:32] <fscale> _rschalch: Do you know the answer to my previous question?
[23:34] <_rschalch> Ill try to do a search, let me check what I find out
[23:39] <fscale> _rschalch: Thanks. Me tried to search to but couldn't find an answer.
[23:39] <fscale> *search too
[23:48] <_rschalch> ok I found it ... type muon in start menu
[23:49] <_rschalch> then go to settings -> configure software sources, it will ask you your admin password
[23:49] <_rschalch> go to the updates tab and deselect check for updates, thats it
[23:50] <_rschalch> I didnt know this package manager
[23:56] <fscale> _rschalch: I found that via one google search result but there is no Configure software sources within my system settings. If you're using Kubuntu 18.04, can you share a screenshot if you can find that option?
[23:57] <_rschalch> its not from system settings ... type muon on start menu and start muon package manager
[23:59] <fscale> _rschalch: This is muon package manager, where is it's settings button? https://i.imgur.com/6IJ7I79.png