| handsome_feng | Hi, could someone here handle my request? Thanks! https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/670540 | 02:52 |
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| tsimonq2 | handsome_feng: Hello :) | 02:55 |
| tsimonq2 | handsome_feng: It would probably be better for you to ask in #launchpad. | 02:55 |
| tsimonq2 | iirc wgrant is in Australia, so there's a possibility that he is lurking. | 02:55 |
| handsome_feng | tsimonq2: Oh, Thank you for your important information! | 02:56 |
| tsimonq2 | handsome_feng: No problem, have a great day :) | 02:57 |
| handsome_feng | tsimonq2: you too :) | 02:58 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:41 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 05:45 |
| jibel | Good morning | 05:48 |
| duflu | Hi jibel | 05:58 |
| ricotz | hey desktopers | 06:35 |
| duflu | Hi ricotz | 06:48 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:20 |
| jibel | didrocks, hi, I'm reviewing bug 1778697. How do you set apport to never report report errors from g-c-c? | 07:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1778697 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Bionic) "update-notifier always present apport-gtk UI on crashes, even on autoreport mode" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1778697 | 07:21 |
| jibel | didrocks, in privacy I've auto or manual | 07:22 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.28.1-0ubuntu1.18.04.2 | 07:23 |
| didrocks | jibel: that should be in the g-c-c sru, you should have a secondary dialog with an option box and checkbox, you don't see this? | 07:29 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:29 |
| jibel | didrocks, well, I tried update-notifier alone, there is no mention of it depending on the newer version of g-c-c | 07:29 |
| jibel | didrocks, also when set to manual with current version of g-c-c I don't get any dialog and the crash is not uploaded automatically | 07:30 |
| didrocks | jibel: ah, right, I was assuming newer g-c-c would be released in -updates already as I've uploaded it some time ago | 07:30 |
| didrocks | jibel: well, you know about crash not being uploaded with what we found on Thursday… | 07:30 |
| didrocks | which will be in newer apport | 07:30 |
| didrocks | so, unfortunately, we can also check the status right now, as the existing API is lying | 07:31 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 07:31 |
| seb128 | 'can't? | 07:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, g-c-c is 6 days old on the SRU page so I guess it's going to be aged enough only today, also it's not verified yet | 07:32 |
| didrocks | seb128: no, we can check the status reported by whoopsie API | 07:33 |
| didrocks | isntead of automatically reporting bugs | 07:33 |
| didrocks | the status will say that it's set to automatically upload even if it won't do it | 07:34 |
| didrocks | g-c-c has been uploaded way more than 6 days ago, that's why I didn't track if it was releasde or not in -ugdates | 07:34 |
| didrocks | updates* | 07:34 |
| seb128 | ah, I see | 07:34 |
| seb128 | delay to have it reviewed/accepted | 07:34 |
| didrocks | yeah | 07:34 |
| seb128 | also nevermind the +not comment, the syntax construction was looking weird to me "unfortunatly, we can, as the it's lying" | 07:35 |
| seb128 | the unfortatly and lying bits made it sounds like the middle part should be negactive as well | 07:36 |
| didrocks | yeahn, sorry, I'm doing 2 things at the same time, looking at why apport autopkgtests are failing when passing locally… | 07:36 |
| jibel | didrocks, there is something weird going on with g-c-c from proposed | 07:36 |
| didrocks | this whole stack is a PITA :/ | 07:36 |
| seb128 | shame that you touched it enough to be the new maintainer :p | 07:36 |
| * seb128 hides | 07:36 | |
| didrocks | clearly not | 07:37 |
| didrocks | I would just rewrite the whole 3 things in one if that was the case :p | 07:37 |
| seb128 | haha | 07:37 |
| jibel | didrocks, set reporting to auto, close the dialog and minimize g-c-c, generate a crash (sh -c 'kill -SEGV $$'), restore g-c-c, reporting is set to never | 07:37 |
| didrocks | jibel: this isn't related to the crash, but whoopsie give an invalid signal to g-c-c before stopping | 07:38 |
| didrocks | if you just close g-c-c | 07:38 |
| didrocks | (without keeping it on that page) | 07:38 |
| didrocks | restart it | 07:38 |
| didrocks | it will always reflect the correct value | 07:38 |
| didrocks | but whoopse-preferences is a activated dbus service | 07:38 |
| didrocks | which close on idle | 07:38 |
| didrocks | in a minute | 07:38 |
| didrocks | and send this invalid signal before shutting down | 07:38 |
| didrocks | that's next to fix on my list :/ | 07:39 |
| ricotz | hi :), is there some hold up in processing gnome stable updates? | 07:39 |
| didrocks | jibel: most of users will just tweaks the options, close the window anyway, so, shouldn't be noticeable | 07:40 |
| seb128 | hey ricotz, doesn't look like it, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=gnome ? | 07:42 |
| ricotz | I am wondering because vala is still at 0.40.4 (latest 0.40.7), an update is also wanted for bionic, while it is synced from debian I already tried to ask there | 07:42 |
| seb128 | ricotz, do you have a specific one in mind? | 07:42 |
| didrocks | Ran 29 tests in 81.807s | 07:42 |
| didrocks | OK | 07:42 |
| didrocks | :/ | 07:42 |
| didrocks | in a vm… | 07:43 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi :), "hold up" as in not picking up upstream releases | 07:43 |
| seb128 | ricotz, same old lack of resources/help needed, if you are interested why not contributing that SRU? | 07:43 |
| ricotz | seb128, I am kind of busy with other things and vala upstream itself, and my membership request for gnome on debian salsa wasn't processed | 07:45 |
| seb128 | ricotz, k, well I guess welcome to the club :) | 07:45 |
| ricotz | I see, j_bicha was picking them up pretty fast, I guess he is taking some break | 07:46 |
| seb128 | yeah, he has not been around recently | 07:46 |
| ricotz | ok | 07:46 |
| seb128 | and none of us has the free cycles to work on those updates | 07:46 |
| seb128 | especially the ones which don't have specific reported issues our customers/users are asking to see resolved | 07:46 |
| ricotz | toolchain updates are kind of important ;) | 07:47 |
| seb128 | vala typically is not really user facing | 07:47 |
| jibel | didrocks, another issue, I've reporting set to never and got a crash dialog | 07:47 |
| seb128 | yes, they are, as is other work | 07:47 |
| seb128 | ricotz, sorry, I just don't have a good answer for you, we have too much to do and not enough people | 07:48 |
| ricotz | seb128, ok, I see that | 07:48 |
| ricotz | will have to try more on the debian side first anyway | 07:49 |
| ricotz | seb128, thanks | 07:49 |
| seb128 | yw! | 07:49 |
| didrocks | jibel: with latest update-notifier? | 07:50 |
| jibel | didrocks, yes | 07:51 |
| didrocks | ah, that one is more annoying… | 07:51 |
| didrocks | I've tested is a lot on Friday | 07:51 |
| didrocks | it* | 07:51 |
| didrocks | and didn't get into that situation | 07:51 |
| didrocks | so, when you have g-c-c, set to never report crash, install the new update-notifier, ensure that version is running (logout/login) | 07:52 |
| didrocks | you still get an UI? | 07:52 |
| jibel | didrocks, I killed u-n and started it manually | 07:53 |
| didrocks | :( I did try this more than once before uploading u-n :/ | 07:53 |
| didrocks | the auto use-case is fixed by apport | 07:54 |
| didrocks | the never use-case is fixed by u-n | 07:54 |
| jibel | didrocks, I'll approve g-c-c because it's behaving correctly and whoopsie is stopped/started according to the reporting mode. | 07:55 |
| willcooke | morning | 07:56 |
| didrocks | jibel: yeah, I guess it's the only piece working currently of the stack :/ | 07:56 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:56 |
| jibel | bonjour willcooke | 07:56 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, how are you? | 08:00 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 08:02 |
| Laney | morning | 08:02 |
| duflu | And morning Laney | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:02 |
| seb128 | had a good trip back? did you recover from the crazy week? | 08:02 |
| willcooke | seb128, good thanks! The sun is still shining. How is your cold? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| seb128 | willcooke, not great, I've been feeling tired whole w.e and the cought has been quite annoying since yesterday and woke me up a bunch of time during the night :/ | 08:05 |
| seb128 | but otherwise it's sunny here as well! | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey duflu seb128 didrocks willcooke | 08:12 |
| Laney | seb128: delayed by like 2.5 hours but otherwise was alright, managed to make a quick change at st pancras | 08:12 |
| seb128 | italians, always laaaate :) | 08:13 |
| Laney | back at like 1am, then I got up at 7.45 to go do the parkrun /o\ | 08:13 |
| Laney | heh | 08:13 |
| Laney | the pilot blamed the londons | 08:13 |
| Laney | london air traffic controllers* | 08:13 |
| seb128 | lol | 08:13 |
| Laney | https://nats.aero/blog/2018/06/final-excds-transition/ | 08:17 |
| Laney | LocutusOfBorg: thx for sponsoring gtk - can you make sure that the branches are updated please? | 08:22 |
| * didrocks understands now the apport autopkgtests failure | 08:35 | |
| didrocks | and why it's passing locally | 08:35 |
| didrocks | so, basically, I have to really acknoledge this time that you can't disable apport if you don't have whoopsie installed | 08:35 |
| didrocks | (which was already the case, disabling apport was made by a whoopsie configuration file) | 08:35 |
| didrocks | (that whoopsie wasn't even creating/reading…) :/ | 08:35 |
| didrocks | and you was setting apport to "never" but whoopsie was still uploading your traces (and automatically) | 08:36 |
| didrocks | I guess this is ok, let me try then to ack that, people can still disable apport anyway without whoopsie install by uninstalling it | 08:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: making sense to you? ^ | 08:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: that can be summarized as https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~didrocks/apport/whoopsie-auto-ui/revision/3208 (see commit message as well) | 08:47 |
| * didrocks tests that in autopkgtests suite now | 08:47 | |
| didrocks | (which doesn't have whoopsie installed, that's why it was passing locally) | 08:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, reading | 08:48 |
| seb128 | wfm | 08:49 |
| didrocks | let me confirm that autopkgtests pass with it :) | 08:49 |
| didrocks | I'll do a followup upload | 08:49 |
| didrocks | meanwhile j_ibel found the issue in u-n (grrrr crash report spawing after 5 minutes or more… I probably haven't waited enough in the "never" case :/) | 08:50 |
| Trevinho | morning | 08:51 |
| didrocks | hey Trevinho | 08:51 |
| Trevinho | hi didrocks | 08:51 |
| Trevinho | thanks for the SRU | 08:51 |
| didrocks | yw ;) | 08:51 |
| didrocks | thanks for making them | 08:51 |
| andyrock | morning | 08:51 |
| didrocks | hey andyrock! | 08:52 |
| andyrock | seb128: I got a fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/109 | 08:52 |
| gitlab-bot | GNOME issue 109 in gnome-shell "Extended characters in OSK don't get entered" (comments: 16) [Opened] | 08:52 |
| andyrock | at least a way to fix it | 08:52 |
| andyrock | working on a clean MP | 08:53 |
| didrocks | Ran 29 tests in 12.114s | 08:55 |
| didrocks | seb128: ok, autopkgtests fixed, mind commenting on https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/apport/whoopsie-auto-ui/+merge/348479 as there is an additional commit since you approved? | 08:55 |
| seb128 | andyrock, hey, happy monday! great :) | 08:56 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho, how are you? | 08:56 |
| Trevinho | hi seb128 all good, sun sprint is continuing for two days more here :) | 08:57 |
| seb128 | didrocks, done | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | seb128: you? | 08:57 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks! | 08:57 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I'm ok, got a cold after coming back which is has been kicking my ass a bit :l/ | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | damn... | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | I've also a cold :-( | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | now it's 30ish | 08:58 |
| seb128 | blocked nosed at first and it turned into caughing this w.e which made my night a bit difficult | 08:58 |
| didrocks | get better before you come to GUADEC! :) | 08:58 |
| seb128 | should be fine by then | 08:58 |
| didrocks | 38°C yesterday here :( | 08:58 |
| Trevinho | yesterday pool was a must :) | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hehe | 08:59 |
| didrocks | apport 2.20.10-0ubuntu5 uploaded | 09:01 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 09:02 |
| didrocks | hoping that one will pass proposed, once there, we can envision SRUing | 09:02 |
| didrocks | j_ibel confirms the u-n scheduler is weird, sometimes you get a crash and nothing happens even after 8 minutes… | 09:05 |
| didrocks | so I guess that's why my tests were skewed, he found the issue (no absolute path to call systemctl) | 09:05 |
| didrocks | I don't think it's worth fixing update-notifier scheduler (which seems stuck in some cases) as we'll move in cosmic to systemd user session hopefully? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure to understand what bit is buggy and why | 09:06 |
| seb128 | no absolute path means it fails to find the command? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | then it shouldn't work at all? | 09:06 |
| didrocks | right, but it's a call to systemctl | 09:07 |
| didrocks | to check if the service is up or not | 09:07 |
| seb128 | that sounds like worth fixing in the LTS, it's a nicer experience if you get the report dialog without delay | 09:08 |
| didrocks | hum | 09:08 |
| didrocks | no, we didn't find a fix for that | 09:08 |
| seb128 | that doesn't need to be you fixing it though | 09:08 |
| seb128 | just report it and give me the bug number | 09:08 |
| didrocks | just so that "never" really works (fixing the previous patch) | 09:08 |
| didrocks | ok | 09:08 |
| seb128 | thx | 09:08 |
| didrocks | by default, there is a 3 minutes delay | 09:08 |
| didrocks | (from the start) | 09:08 |
| didrocks | I guess to accumulate the "crashes" dialog if multiple happens | 09:08 |
| seb128 | that's to not load the system on login? | 09:08 |
| didrocks | maybe… but it's still the case way even after the first 3 minutes | 09:09 |
| didrocks | basically, the whole concept of "show the crash dialog" immediately to explain why something doesn't work was never behaving like that :p | 09:09 |
| seb128 | that stack could really do with a good review/bug fixing round | 09:10 |
| didrocks | clearly | 09:10 |
| didrocks | too many projects interleaving | 09:10 |
| seb128 | I'm going to have a look to those 3 minutes thing | 09:10 |
| didrocks | update-notifier/apport/whoopsie/whoopsie-preferences | 09:10 |
| seb128 | that must have been done for a reason | 09:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: changing the timer will be easy, the issue is that sometimes, it's stuck and miss the window | 09:10 |
| didrocks | and you have to create a new inotify in /var/crash to "unstuck" it | 09:10 |
| seb128 | let's get that reported and the foundations list | 09:11 |
| didrocks | (which was why I thought my patch was working) | 09:11 |
| didrocks | yes | 09:11 |
| jibel | didrocks, i'll file the bug | 09:12 |
| didrocks | thanks jibel! | 09:12 |
| * didrocks uploads u-n fix in cosmic and bionic | 09:12 | |
| duflu | Trevinho, thinking about patching mutter!117 ? | 09:14 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Laney, I already asked @tsimonq2 to do it :) | 09:40 |
| Laney | LocutusOfBorg: if he could have pushed then he could probably have uploaded no? | 09:56 |
| Laney | or you didn't work from a branch to sponsor it for some reason? | 09:56 |
| LocutusOfBorg | not sure if he has access, let me push them | 10:00 |
| Laney | ta | 10:03 |
| duflu | Ugh, multiple branch dependencies in a system that can't handle single branch dependencies | 10:04 |
| * duflu gives up and goes to dinner | 10:05 | |
| LocutusOfBorg | done! @tsimonq2 please comment if you have write access | 10:06 |
| Laney | LocutusOfBorg: ~ubuntu-desktop is an uploading team | 10:06 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so Laney he can't unless somebody PPU it for him | 10:32 |
| Laney | more or less | 10:35 |
| willcooke | Should this bug be fixe released for Bionic now? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1765261 | 11:25 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1765261 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] Ubuntu 18.04 login screen rejects a valid password on first attempt (if starting with Shift key). Usually works on the second attempt" [High,Fix committed] | 11:25 |
| Laney | in proposed | 11:27 |
| Laney | (which is Fix Committed in SRU speak) | 11:29 |
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| willcooke | Laney, ah thanks | 12:29 |
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| Trevinho | LocutusOfBorg: you should push the bzr tags on the lp: branches for gtk | 14:06 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Trevinho, ack! | 14:21 |
| Trevinho | LocutusOfBorg: good, I've fixed them while creating the git branches, but better to fix bzr too | 14:22 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I think I did it | 14:23 |
| LocutusOfBorg | please let me know if I made any mistake | 14:23 |
| LocutusOfBorg | (I ran bzr tag and push) | 14:23 |
| Laney | going to move Trevinho's branches from https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/+git to ~ubuntu-desktop, then we can start using them | 14:26 |
| Laney | unless anybody wants to tell me not to | 14:26 |
| Laney | didrocks: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | 14:26 |
| Trevinho | once done that, lp branches should probably be edited to remove the whole content addoing a file that says where code is now? | 14:27 |
| Laney | yep | 14:27 |
| Laney | sounds like hard work though ._. | 14:28 |
| Trevinho | I can script that if you want, then you push it | 14:28 |
| Trevinho | no... few lines, you know :) | 14:28 |
| Laney | this guy loves shell scripting | 14:29 |
| didrocks | Laney: please go ahead :) | 14:29 |
| Laney | will do | 14:29 |
| Laney | thx! | 14:29 |
| didrocks | Laney: wait, I can push it | 14:29 |
| Laney | this is a lot of clicking though, I should write an API script for that | 14:29 |
| didrocks | Laney: I have some "finalise changelog" commit | 14:29 |
| Laney | you can change the owner | 14:30 |
| Laney | e.g. on https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calculator/+git/gnome-calculator/+editV | 14:30 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calculator/+git/gnome-calculator/+edit | 14:30 |
| * Laney was going to do that | 14:30 | |
| didrocks | Laney: ah, I let you do that, I change the remote meanwhile to push latest commits | 14:30 |
| Laney | ok | 14:30 |
| didrocks | sounds like there are branches where we already have history though there | 14:30 |
| Trevinho | ah, also I've to change them to point to ubuntu/master | 14:31 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yeah, some like gdm3 needs to be merged with current ones | 14:31 |
| Trevinho | so don't move the ones we 've already | 14:31 |
| Trevinho | ye | 14:31 |
| Trevinho | t* | 14:31 |
| Laney | ye those are for merging | 14:31 |
| didrocks | Laney: so, for g-s, I've already pushed it a long time ago, that one doesn't need to be move thus | 14:32 |
| didrocks | even if I'm surprised it's been reprocessed with new commits an hour ago by Trevinho, reimporting | 14:33 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: it's just an automated script doing that | 14:33 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: please exclude the ones we already migrated :p | 14:33 |
| Laney | shell? session? screensaver? software? | 14:33 |
| didrocks | Laney: Shell | 14:33 |
| Laney | thx | 14:34 |
| Trevinho | was this btw https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/KRxTXHVsdf/ | 14:34 |
| didrocks | I hope somebody is checking the result makes sense before moving the ownership | 14:34 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: and I'm not excluding per se, since for these I'll just merge them with current, so we'll preserve history and that's it. | 14:34 |
| Laney | not individually no | 14:34 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: remerge gnome shell? why? | 14:34 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: gnome-shell no | 14:35 |
| didrocks | ok | 14:35 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: it was just a for which caused it to be pushed again :) | 14:35 |
| didrocks | Laney: ok, you will be responsible if weird debian/control* :p | 14:35 |
| Laney | :/ | 14:37 |
| Laney | Trevinho: done, ones left need merging | 15:03 |
| Laney | it would be good if we could get ~ubuntu-desktop emails working | 15:04 |
| Laney | so people see MPs coming in | 15:04 |
| Laney | they probably get eaten by the mailing list now? | 15:05 |
| seb128 | they do in the moderation queue | 15:08 |
| seb128 | do->go | 15:08 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure if we want to "spam" the list with them | 15:08 |
| Laney | well if the list is dead we could use it now for code review stuff | 15:08 |
| seb128 | though that now the list has been superseeded by the hub for real human discussions we could | 15:08 |
| Laney | I always feel a bit 🙈 when someone pings about a thing and it was proposed to ~ubuntu-desktop some time before | 15:09 |
| Laney | so doing that gets my vote | 15:10 |
| Laney | If you can whitelist by header, "X-Launchpad-Notification-Type: code-review" would be a good one | 15:11 |
| Laney | so we don't get bug spam since people sometimes subscribe the team to bugs | 15:12 |
| seb128 | right let me see | 15:13 |
| Laney | 🙌 | 15:16 |
| Laney | which is called "Person Raising Both Hands in Celebration" | 15:16 |
| Laney | GNOME is teaching me Semantic Emoji | 15:16 |
| seb128 | haha | 15:20 |
| ricotz | seb128, would you be available to upload a vala package? | 15:31 |
| ricotz | what is the preferred version suffix for syncs from debian git? | 15:31 |
| ricotz | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/ubuntu/ | 15:44 |
| ricotz | based on https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/vala | 15:45 |
| xnox | Laney, willcooke, seb128 - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1779569 | 16:08 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1779569 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "🌈 looks odd in thunderbird, chrome/chromium, okish in firefox" [Undecided,New] | 16:08 |
| xnox | input appreciated as to, where/how is this to fix. I fear there is "browser engines" in the way | 16:08 |
| xnox | works fine in gnome-terminal, gedit, hexchat, etc. | 16:08 |
| Laney | It sounds like a duplicate of the listed bug, which is supposedly fixed in thunderbird 60 (not out yet afaics). | 16:13 |
| Laney | snapd.service just blocked startup on a VM for 3min 1.756s | 16:42 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, sounds like something worth reporting to the snapd team, what other services were blocked? | 17:57 |
| tsimonq2 | Laney, LocutusOfBorg: Thanks. | 19:11 |
| Laney | seb128: GDM didn't come up until it finally came alive | 19:32 |
| Laney | will do | 19:32 |
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