[00:14] <ubptgbot> Geek2002 was added by: Geek2002
 @UniversalSuperBox would appreciate if you could tell the reason
 I'll PM you then
 That okay?
 yus
 @exar_kun, Lately yes. More than before. Hey... Do I know you? GIT!!
 morning people of ubports
 Yep can also confirm nexus 5 battery is terrible. Wasnt sure if it was just that it was an older phone or not. But I do remember there being something on github about it. 🤔
 @padraic7a, Easier to read. If you wanted them to retain the original quality upload them as a file or if you are using desktop version, send them without compression :)
 @padraic7a, So far I’ve found multitasking not possible unless you go to UBTweaks and disable app standby. Get to still listen to internet radio via the browser while having my screen locked 🎉
 yep not upgrading to 18.04 just yet
 (Photo, 698x74) https://irc.ubports.com/5FJf70iL.png
 Btw, the HUD is available in MATE as well
 @Fuseteam, I also dislike how if I click on an icon it doesn't allow me to choose which window to bring focus to. A problem when I have 4 Firefox windows with 3 terminals.
 @neothethird, https://github.com/rilian-la-te/vala-panel-appmenu
 haha that why i stick with 16.04 while trying to figure out i can help with the developement of unity 8 :3
 @AlexanderPlaza, Well this happens if you use the one click tweak
 and oh my didn't know it was just available in mate hmm
 @ignorare, @ignorare I followed your discussion about the SSH but I didn't understand very much the details....would you mind to write a small HowTo for interested users like me and maybe make it persistent, by writing a dedicated thread on the UBports Forum? I'd really appreciate :) thanks
 [Edit] haha that why i stick with 16.04 while trying to figure out how and if i can help with the developement of unity 8 :3
 @AlexanderPlaza, Ah, didn't know that was an option
 @neothethird, Tried mate. works well, but just couldn't get past that ghastly green, which no matter what you do for theming keeps rearing it's zombie colored head.  plus they seem to have that age old gnome problem of widget positioning having a life of its own.
 @neothethird, [Edit] Tried mate. works well, but just couldn't get past that ghastly green, which no matter what you do for theming keeps rearing its zombie colored head.  plus they seem to have that age old gnome problem of widget positioning having a life of its own.
 @neothethird, [Edit] Tried mate. works well, but just couldn't get past that ghastly green, which no matter what you do for theming keeps rearing its zombie colored head.  plus they seem to have that age old gnome problem of panel item positioning having a life of its own.
 landed on budgie. so far it's agreeing with me
 no HUD tho
 I just use the mate-hud script on kde, works well enough
 @Lyokanthrope, 🤔
 It's just a Python script 🤷‍♂
 it's just in ubuntu repo?
[07:30] <ubptgbot> phildeler was added by: phildeler
 @phildeler, Hi Philippe, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. … There are UBports language focus groups too.
 @mattbel10, Well, I had to follow a different approach. I am a newbie, but the specialists here said there is a different approach available without this config-file...
 @mattbel10, [Edit] Well, I had to follow a different approach. I am a newbie, but the specialists here said there is a different approach possible without this config-file...
 @ignorare, yes, but I understood you succeeded to do what you were looking for....or am I mistaken? However, in case you succeeded, it would be great to share with other users your findings. You know, this is a volunteers community and every step further from each of us I think should be shared
 @mattbel10, Sure! I am just unsure if there is a better solution available. @dohbee said this config-file is not necessary, so I was wondering about. In case it is a correct option nevertheless I would prefer to extend the SSH-wiki-entry with that.
 ubsync - OpenStore … https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/ubsync
 How can I contact the device for this ^^
 [Edit] How can I contact the dev for this ^^
 @ignorare, no problem dude and thanks for sharing :)
 @mattbel10, For now, you can just follow the SSH-manual and then add a file with name "config" into ".ssh". This file contains the text I posted above...
 @mattbel10, [Edit] For now, you can just follow the SSH-manual and then add a file with name "config" into your PC-directory ".ssh". This file contains the text I posted above...
 where is this manual? do you mean on the UBports docs?
 Hi, thankyou for welcome advocatux, sorry I'm french, and as you know like many french people, I'm not confortable with speaking english, but  I will try. I don't know if I will buy a Oneplus one or a Nexus 5, what is the best for ubports, thanks!
 @mattbel10, Yes, right!
 @mattbel10, https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/ssh.html?highlight=ssh
 @Daniel_Wood, Would it make sense to contact him via the gitlab repo?
 As far as I understand correct, @dohbee said that the config-file is only necessary if you want to connect to a hostname instead of an IP-address...
 So if you connect to the IP, it should be fine like described in the manual.
 [Edit] So if you connect to the IP the classic way, it should be already fine like described in the manual.
 @Daniel_Wood, I can't find a member of any of the UBports groups going by 'Ernesst'. I wonder if @cibersheep might know ?
 @phildeler, Both are good phones for UT … You can join https://t.me/UBports_French too :)
 @padraic7a, Maybe you are looking for Kévin (@Ern_st )?
 Ok, thanks advocatux! I will test the french group
 👍
 @mattbel10, [Edit] Sure! I am just unsure if there is a better solution available. @dohbee said this config-file is not mandatory in case of usual connects to the pure IP-address. In case of it is a correct option nevertheless I would prefer to extend the SSH-wiki-entry with that.
 @advocatux, could be, @Daniel_Wood meet @Ern_st
 [Edit] @mattbel10: As far as I understand correct, @dohbee said that the config-file is only necessary if you want to connect to a hostname instead of an IP-address...
 @padraic7a, Thanks!!
 No bother, and thanks @advocatux
 👍
 @padraic7a, Oh, I tried to get both connected. Let me go to the computer
 Think it might be ok now.
 @ignorare, I see.....thank you then, I will have a look definitely at the UBports guide!
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/4mien86okg4iz4i/com.ubuntu.filemanager_0.5.622~94b0712_armhf.click?dl=0
 Can someone test this click pkg on xenial?
 My Ubuntu phone is at home :/
 @nfsprodriver I think it's better to use the Openstore and/or the QA and testing group for this first 😉
 BTW, I'm going to try it now :)
 I understand you ☺
 Hey @nfsprodriver your filemanager is working great and even that content-hub issue is fixed 🤘 … Good job !!!
 You're the man !!
 Now THIS is a FIX that was really needed! thank you @nfsprodriver :D
 Wohoo!
 The new filemanager looks beautiful too
 Does it have search function
 Hey, don't be a party pooper 😂
 Thanks to the lately work of Brian and Marius fixing samba stuff in clickable container :)
 this is huge, thank you guys
 Going to upload the clickable stuff to github soon...
 @nfsprodriver do you know if the translations for your filemanager is going to be handle by Weblate?
 No not yet. This state is not upstream.
 Okay, thank you
 Still a WIP, but I think due to that progress there might be a merge soon :)
 Oh, I love the Dark Mode
 I've been trying to run this command for Libertine:
 libertine-container-manager exec --command "curl -L 'https://bintray.com/user/downloadSubjectPublicKey?username=tizonia' | apt-key add -" --id vivid
 But I get the errors:
 The Icon mode and dark are awesome i hope this time this File Manager will get released as stable
 Oh man, I needed 4GB swap to avoid my Laptop to collapse 😂
 curl: option -: is unknown … curl: try 'curl --help' or 'curl --manual' for more information
 Not sure how to correct for that?
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/l1vlRLiq.png
 Behold !!
 try Icon mode :)
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/WFIwFRjS.png
 lol
 another good thing is that UTmedia is now useful again to watch videos in hammrhead
 Good
 (Photo, 540x960) https://irc.ubports.com/DUvAwfsk.png
 Small icons & Dark Mode
 😻😻😻
 @malditobastardo, Hope
 @malditobastardo, [Edit] Nope
 Open with another app does not show UTmedia
 You have to use the File Manager to do it.. it was always like that
 @TartanSpartan, Check out you have type `-L` right, or try `--location` instead or maybe that parameter isn't supported in that version? 🤷‍♂️
 I'll check, but you'd think and hope it would be by thr time of Vivid in 2015.
 Could someone on a desktop please try the command:
 curl -location 'https://bintray.com/user/downloadSubjectPublicKey?username=tizonia' | sudo apt-key add -
 And yes I know I didn't include sudo in the Libertine command.
 @nfsprodriver, Thank you for this work. It works for me on xenial RC2 (Pro5). A big step to make 16.04 usable! Great design theme.
 It makes this error after make systemimage command.
 (Photo, 1366x768) https://irc.ubports.com/H0msRQ57.png
 @ankaos, Please, join the @halium group to resolve your issues with Halium.
 @TartanSpartan, I run this command in the X11/desktop apps terminal, but it says "ERROR: this command can only br run by root".
 I was under the impression that I had set a super user for Libertine though.
 *be
 @TartanSpartan, there is no such thing as a super user under libertine. it is an unpriviliged chroot. when you run the apps normally, you are running as a user without root privilges. when you do `libertine-container-manager exec` you are running a shell as would appear to be root user
 @TartanSpartan, The option is `--location` (two dashes), but you shouldn't be using it in this case anyway. what you want is `curl -O - https://url.com/apt.key | apt-key add -` i guess
 But remember you instructed me to create /usr/local/bin/sudo which reads "exec $@"?
 Ok, I'll try that syntax.
 @TartanSpartan, that's because you installed sudo and messed things up, so suggested this as a workaround so sudo would just be a no-op
 I see.
 @TartanSpartan, curl doesn't print data to STDOUT by default, and the -L,--location option is for handling redirect errors with a different url
 So:
 curl -O - https://bintray.com/user/downloadSubjectPublicKey?username=tizonia | apt-key add - i
 ?
 yes, presumably
 well no you typed that wrong
 and no i on the end
 don't put single ` around the url like that
 Oh you had i as the personal pronoun. Right.
 (or any number of ` around just the url, for that matter)
 curl -O - https://bintray.com/user/downloadSubjectPublicKey?username=tizonia | apt-key add -
 yes
 Fails on both unfortunately:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/2TLZuJWv.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ajrnMTXO.png
 Work break is over, but I'll be back later to try again.
 you need to exec bash and then run the command, probably
 or just download the key by itself, and apt-key add it directly rather than via pipes
 Will go for the latter, later, thanks.
[13:28] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Hi all, great work btw, I did not find anywhere if UBport  on nexus 5 supports wireless charging, thx in advance!
 @TartanSpartan, ```curl -L  https://bintray.com/user/downloadSubjectPublicKey?username=tizonia > key.key && sudo apt-key add key.key && rm key.key ``` … the unnecessery long way to do it … but it works
 @Remus Barth, This is a feature of the hardware, not the OS. Yes, it works.
[13:35] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Thank you, on my way than to have a complete wireless device, I thing with miracast I will solve also the screen cable, tonight I will test, super!
 miracast will be much slower i guess
[13:37] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> For a terminal, I hope it will be enough
 When I close private window in browser home window also closes
 16.04
 [Edit] 16.04 rc
 @John_athan, please report issues on github
 Ok
 but in short this is because you don't close windows from the app switcher. you close apps.
 @John_athan, That is already reported
 @dohbee, no, it is a bug in oxide. It works with browser-ng
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/aJOfFSCA.png
 @dohbee
 i don't know. just exec bash and then do it all inside the shell, rather than doing each thing individually with the exec command
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Y6RGkrwG.png
 not inside xterm
 i mean do `libertine-container-manager exec -c "/bin/bash"` to get a shell as root
 Ah ok.
 Not working but will get into it later.
 Hi! Do someone knows how can I download the UBports Recovery image for a specific device?
 @TronFortyTwo, cdimage.ubports.com
 but not all devices work with the ubports recovery
 eg meizu and bq
 @neothethird, ok thanks
 @neothethird, So for bacon is ok?
[16:06] <ubptgbot> ronenl was added by: ronenl
 @TronFortyTwo, yes
 @neothethird, mm, actually, why don't we host recovery images for those? isn't it the same recovery on the retail images, just has adb removed?
 @dohbee, 👍
 @dohbee, I am actually not sure
 @TronFortyTwo, http://cdimage.ubports.com/devices/boot-bacon.img
 wait, that's boot
 http://cdimage.ubports.com/devices/recovery-bacon.img
 there
 thanks!
 Welcome @ronenl !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EUDqM6WH.png Hello Libertine for Xenial!
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/KOnos2ks.png
 I just don't know how to open the installed apps, for I guess the libertine scope is still missing....but at least I can install them :)
 @mattbel10, I found out that theirs a new libertine scope called classic apps installed in the newest update
 How do I uninstall scopes now?
 mmmmh where is this scope? I cannot find it on the OpenStore
 It's already installrf
 [Edit] It's already installef
 [Edit] It's already installed
 really? I don't see it....what phone are you on?
 Oneplusone
 I don't own such an app on my pro5 devel OS
 [Edit] I don't own such an app on my pro5 16.04 devel OS
 @PhoenixLandPirate, BTW you can de-flag a scope from the menu which shows up swiping from the bottom edge of the phone
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/sogPHSQ0.png
 @PhoenixLandPirate, very useful 😆
 @Flohack, I try
 @PhoenixLandPirate, but are you on vivid or xenial? some of your scopes are not available for xenial yet
 the way you uninstall scopes is the same way it's always been done i guess
 nothing changed in that respect in the 16.04 images
 @dohbee, The Ubuntu software scope has been gone for a very long time, and I don't think theirs been a front end to remove scopes since then.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, open store app is the store now
 @dohbee, Yeah but none of the scopes show up in there, unless they're uploaded to the openstore
 so you couldn't have installed them then, since they're not in the store.
 But as you see from my screen shot, I clearly do
 Its okay, you can uninstall via UT Tweak Tool :D
 i can basically see nothing from the screen shot, because of the background
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/04XwWv90.png
 does system settings hang when trying to download the system update, for anyone else?
 @dohbee, Nope not here on my OPO
 I've installed 3 apps using libertine via the system settings, but the apps aren't showing up in the Legacy Applications scope for some reason
 there is definitely something wrong with that deb packaged scope, indeed
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/oTMPmg8D.png
 android sucks...
 eh
 bored.. compiled fishy shooter for android to amuse myself
 not amused.. ndk ewww java, c, c++
 yeah, you have to have a bit of java that android calls into for starting your app
[17:59] <ubptgbot> Thomas Eitzenberger was added by: Thomas Eitzenberger
 Welcome Thomas !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
[18:10] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Eitzenberger> Quick Question: How do i get firefox / libreoffice run on the 16.04rc fpr BQM10FHD?
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/IfO9DnGR.png
 @dohbee that's what happens when I try to apt-add key via exec bash.
 i'm a little surprised that browser-ng doesn't crash now, as firefox in xenial container also crashes
 @TartanSpartan ok, i don't know. maybe set `TMPDIR=/home/phablet/.cache/tmp` or something before running apt-key
[18:38] <ubptgbot> SpeedyTree was added by: SpeedyTree
 Hello Everyone!
 How is it going?
 We were celebrating the last 1000 members.
 Now 1600
 @dohbee, That reminds me of some bug with the update progress bar, its totally fine when its async, but sometimes it has 0 progress for minutes. Seems to be the estimated download speed calculation or idk. Then, from 0% to 100% in one big jump
 [Edit] Last time, we were celebrating 1000 members.
 @dohbee I note that I get a permission refusal as root if I try to navigate to the phablet directory within home.
 Hi 16.04 is great smooth etc but no mail applications?  dekko no longer works
 @prpleXist, Dekko for xenial is WIP
 @Flohack, yeah, there's that, but system-settings ui gets hanged and you can't go back to main page or anything. have to kill it and then restart it, and then you can go tap install
 Question. If I add the .gpg file to .cache/libertine-container/vivid/rootfs/etc/apt$ cd trusted.gpg.d/ via a simple CLI mv operation, does that count as having added the key and therefore does it permit me to update from that repo if I add the source to source.list?
 *let me correct that dir:
 .cache/libertine-container/vivid/rootfs/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
 @TartanSpartan, you don't need to have the key added to add the source or install a package from it. and no, i don't think that's the right place for the key to be anyway
 Anyone good with Gerrit?
 @SpeedyTree, there's @ubports_ot for off topic discussion, btw
 I messed my `bq AQUARIS E4.5` up. Now it always gets stuck in the bq boot screen. … Can I use the `SP flash tool` to reinstall the firmware without losing my `USRDATA`?
 @Thomas, Take care to use it only in firmware upgrade mode, otherwise it will brick your phone
[21:50] <ubptgbot> jacob_morosco was added by: jacob_morosco
 hello i have a question i am new
 does ubports support the Nexus 5 AND the Nexus 5X? I don't know if they're in the same family.
 only Nexus 5, 5X is different device
 okay thanks.
 can it be used with Google Project Fi?
 no idea what is it or how it's related to UBPorts
 It's a carrier afaik
 I got tizonia (a CLI music streaming wrapper) running on Libertine. But I can't get Soundcloud to playback. Would anyone like to take a look themselves?
 @jacob_morosco, The basics will probably work, but not the Google integration
 @Stereofont, Should I keep the default settings for `firmware upgrade` mode or uncheck the entry for `USRDATA`?
 You can't get ubports from so flash. It's resetting to open image
 I suggest you join @welcomeplus for help with that
[23:12] <ubptgbot> <Dave S> Getting this log file. Is it anything to worry about? … untrusted-helper-push-helper:153.......... … unhandled push type: "CHAT_MESSAGE_GIFF"
 Anyone with a Oneplus One, notice any dead spots with their touch screen trying to unlock or type? It works eventually but noticed it takes a bit to notice input. Not sure if it’s the phone or me running 16.04