| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:58 |
|---|---|---|
| Bashing-om | WB lotuspsychje ,, been brisk in main for a change . | 03:09 |
| lotuspsychje | neat Bashing-om | 03:09 |
| lotuspsychje | users are sniffing new point release lol | 03:09 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Interest in new installs on bizar hardware has certainly increased :) | 03:15 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: alot of specific techy stuff has reached us for sure | 03:23 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: i also feel very low bionic graphics problems these days.. | 03:23 |
| === guiver_d is now known as guiverc | ||
| ducasse | good morning | 05:48 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:01 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 06:08 |
| lordievader | Hey daftykins | 06:10 |
| lordievader | How are you doing? | 06:10 |
| daftykins | not bad at all thanks! not much sleep though, too many thoughts swishing around about work plans :> | 06:11 |
| daftykins | how are things with yourself? | 06:11 |
| ducasse | morning, lordievader | 06:11 |
| ducasse | enjoying your morning? | 06:11 |
| lordievader | Doing good here. | 06:12 |
| lordievader | Slowly configuring an old host as a secondary hypervisor | 06:13 |
| daftykins | ah nice, which technology? | 06:13 |
| lordievader | Ha, you dont want to know 😋 | 06:14 |
| lordievader | An overclocked C2D. | 06:14 |
| daftykins | sorry i meant the virt tech in use | 06:15 |
| === guiverc_d is now known as guiverc | ||
| JimBuntu | "fail for linux" + "What's logging" = Same person X-D | 11:08 |
| lordievader | daftykins: Oh, just libvirt/qemu. | 11:10 |
| lordievader | Nothing fancy for failover or anything. Just some more resources for non-essential vm's. | 11:11 |
| lotuspsychje | good afternoon to all | 12:11 |
| blackflow | o/ | 12:12 |
| lotuspsychje | hey blackflow | 12:12 |
| lotuspsychje | just needed to fix a gdm issue on 18.04 on my desktop | 12:12 |
| blackflow | lotuspsychje: you mean to get it boot faster? | 12:12 |
| lotuspsychje | systemd stuck at gnome display manager ppp link was shut | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | no couldnt get in anymore | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | purge gdm gdm3 and reinstall gdm3 and ubuntu-desktop fixxed it | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | blackflow: got 2 new wishlists going for bionic | 12:15 |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1776742 | 12:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1776742 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[Wishlist] Add a GUI systemd service manager by default" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 12:16 |
| blackflow | was gdm package dropped? | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1779723 | 12:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1779723 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[Wishlist] Add a GUI option autoremove kernel cleanup on updates" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | blackflow: not sure what caused this.. | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 12:33 |
| lordievader | Hey BluesKaj | 12:46 |
| lordievader | How are you doing? | 12:46 |
| leftyfb | lotuspsychje: Marvel = Bugzie | 12:49 |
| lotuspsychje | leftyfb: oh jeez | 12:51 |
| lotuspsychje | hey lordievader BluesKaj | 12:51 |
| lordievader | 👋 | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | Hi lordievader, lotuspsychje | 12:56 |
| === czesmir_ is now known as czesmir | ||
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic xenial | 16:36 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.130.136 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB | 16:36 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic | 16:36 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.15.0.24.26 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB | 16:36 |
| lotuspsychje | !info ibus-m17n bionic | 16:48 |
| ubot5 | ibus-m17n (source: ibus-m17n): m17n engine for IBus. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-5 (bionic), package size 25 kB, installed size 188 kB | 16:48 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome rush | 17:20 |
| rush | thanks lol | 17:20 |
| rush | i wil ask same question in here | 17:21 |
| rush | im on ubuntu 18 | 17:21 |
| rush | how can this ubuntu be so fast? i have a full instalation on USB only, yet it runs very well. just impressive. boots as fast as, or faster than linux puppy lol go figure | 17:21 |
| rush | is that normal ir did i just get lucky somehow ? | 17:21 |
| lotuspsychje | how many ram do you have rush | 17:21 |
| rush | 8 gb | 17:21 |
| rush | i5 | 17:21 |
| rush | lenovo x230 | 17:21 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: ssd or mechanical hd? | 17:21 |
| rush | hdd.. but running ubuntu from a 64 gb micro sd card in a usb stick only! | 17:22 |
| leftyfb | why not run it natively? | 17:22 |
| rush | i was normally relying on windows | 17:22 |
| rush | but to be honest yes.. i think its an option now | 17:22 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: i5 and 8g goes a fast way | 17:22 |
| rush | i was hving problems using linux for all my needs on this laptop... but this new ubuntu seems to be doing a great job | 17:23 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: but as leftyfb suggest i would also go for physical install | 17:23 |
| rush | it literally seems as fast a a linux puppy usb | 17:23 |
| rush | well.. the usb is so fast , i hardly need one? | 17:23 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: usb bottlenecks your speed | 17:23 |
| rush | and igf i get stuck, i can use windows on the hdd here | 17:23 |
| rush | hmm | 17:23 |
| nacc | leftyfb: uh, what? loopback named eth0? | 17:23 |
| rush | i have a windows 7 usb, thats much slower than ubuntu usb | 17:24 |
| rush | i do have a 'spare' ssd laying about | 17:24 |
| rush | i might consider ubuntu ssd instal lin this computer | 17:24 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: then i would suggest plugin your ssd and install ubuntu clean on it | 17:24 |
| rush | should run great | 17:24 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: sata speed will get you more then usb | 17:24 |
| rush | problem is.. it takes a while to configure lol... and i forget some of the tips i was given | 17:24 |
| rush | also, id like a dua lboot.. just in case i get stuck an dneed windows | 17:25 |
| rush | but windwos 10 seems very brutish with boot up menu thse days | 17:25 |
| rush | hard to dual boot with it | 17:25 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont like dualboots myself, but just my opinion | 17:25 |
| rush | if i was sure i wouldnt need windows.. id go for single boot | 17:26 |
| rush | maybe in a while when i feel mor econfident i'll go for it | 17:26 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: you could also try virtualbox with w10 afterwards | 17:26 |
| rush | ge tsoem goods use out of my ssd too | 17:26 |
| rush | hmm | 17:26 |
| rush | yuea.. this laptop is not for gaming. so vb would probably be enough | 17:26 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: you can then, run windows from the virtualbox | 17:27 |
| leftyfb | nacc: yeah, he was messing with renaming his interfaces with .network system files .. did it wrong of course | 17:27 |
| nacc | leftyfb: yuck | 17:27 |
| leftyfb | yep | 17:27 |
| leftyfb | i've learned how to deal with the new naming, it's not difficult | 17:27 |
| rush | i actually cloned this usb ubuntu to my ssd with acronis on windows, and put it i nhere.. it does boot up.. but for some reason the boot up is really slow. fine once it gets going though | 17:28 |
| leftyfb | though I'm still not keen on netplan | 17:28 |
| nacc | and it's useful when you care about it | 17:28 |
| rush | reason i cloned is cos id hate to loose all my tweaks and setting ive put in here | 17:28 |
| leftyfb | rush: it's good practice to do it all from scratch again | 17:28 |
| rush | i suppose | 17:28 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: i usaully install ubuntu in 30min | 17:29 |
| rush | lol | 17:29 |
| rush | the tweak cna take me literally days or weeks | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: sudo apt install rar vlc photoprint preload...etc | 17:29 |
| rush | as i have to seek help | 17:29 |
| blackflow | leftyfb: my only problem with it is interfaces changing name when you make a hardware change that's not related to networking, eg gpu pulled out or added in. | 17:29 |
| rush | apart from the learnign curve and trouble shooting.. im well impressed with ubuntu on this lenovo x230 | 17:30 |
| rush | just a super combo | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: glad you like it | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: can you define fast boot? | 17:30 |
| rush | i like the aesthetic too | 17:30 |
| nacc | blackflow: that's presumably due to probing order changing? | 17:30 |
| rush | define how? | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: time, seconds,minutes | 17:30 |
| rush | usb boot takes unde a minute i think | 17:30 |
| rush | hmm | 17:31 |
| rush | maybe 45 seconds | 17:31 |
| rush | 30,. perhaps | 17:31 |
| blackflow | nacc: possibly, there's an issue open on systemd's github | 17:31 |
| rush | fast for usb | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | rush: yeah, it will rcoket on the ssd then | 17:31 |
| nacc | blackflow: i know some backplane are really weird about it | 17:31 |
| leftyfb | blackflow: I've never experienced that | 17:32 |
| rush | i think these old gen lenovos are a steal.. over a thousand $ whe nthey came out.. but can get the 2012 - 13 models for maybe $150 with i5 and decent quality. made for linux lol | 17:32 |
| blackflow | nacc: though it's not often one changes hardware. just something to keep in mind when you work remotely | 17:32 |
| nacc | blackflow: absolutely | 17:32 |
| leftyfb | mmmm BMC's | 17:32 |
| nacc | blackflow: also, the MAC shouldn't have changed | 17:32 |
| nacc | tbh, that change just proved how bad so many sysadmins were :) | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | "but I always assume eth0!" | 17:33 |
| nacc | heh | 17:33 |
| leftyfb | "it's hardcoded in all my things!" | 17:33 |
| blackflow | nacc: sure, some .link magick can help pin that down | 17:33 |
| rush | youve got me tempted.. i'll consider my option.. what i might 'miss' without win 10 on here, then i might get this on ssd | 17:33 |
| nacc | blackflow: yep, exactly | 17:33 |
| rush | just hope its easy to clone in case of failure | 17:34 |
| leftyfb | rush: dual boot until you realize you haven't booted into Windows in a year and then reclaim the space for Ubuntu | 17:34 |
| leftyfb | rush: make a backup of your files on Ubuntu. And keep a list of applications you've installed. Rebuilding from scratch it fairly easy from then | 17:35 |
| blackflow | ^^^ | 17:35 |
| rush | i need windows for my main gaming laptop. but apart from a fwe photo editing an dvideo softwares, i dont think i miss windows for muc helse. though it does have masses of software choices | 17:35 |
| leftyfb | rush: over time you learn of all the stuff you "customized" which you never used and start to weed out of your build list | 17:35 |
| rush | yea, justa few programes not avialabe in software center wer etricky to install. plus tweaking the desktop was a bit fdiddly too | 17:36 |
| rush | removing the top bar for example | 17:36 |
| rush | take up too much real estate | 17:36 |
| leftyfb | rush: which programs? | 17:36 |
| rush | and removing the title bar from the windows and browsers | 17:36 |
| rush | qtox secure mesenger for one | 17:36 |
| rush | i talked to the dev, i helped him fin a bug | 17:37 |
| leftyfb | ugh | 17:37 |
| rush | so hpopefully the next verions will be easiet to install | 17:37 |
| leftyfb | 2nd time in my life hearing someone wanting qtox | 17:37 |
| rush | well. afew years back i trieed linux.. the skype bac kthe nwas soo bad. like 1990's software | 17:37 |
| rush | i hear dabout tox and tried it instead | 17:37 |
| leftyfb | rush: and yes, the dev forgot to mention installing autoconf | 17:38 |
| rush | now i have a few contacts on there so i need it installed | 17:38 |
| rush | dunno.. he said the install was bugged anyway | 17:38 |
| rush | but he gave me a few lines of code that sorted it out | 17:38 |
| rush | i just dumbly coppied and pasted | 17:38 |
| rush | that swhy i cant replicate it myself lol | 17:38 |
| rush | anyway.. all that said. it probly wouldnt take that long to get it all confirgured again... ssd instal ltempting | 17:39 |
| rush | anyway.. i wont hog your chat | 17:40 |
| rush | thanks for the tips | 17:40 |
| rush | am i connected ? | 17:46 |
| daftykins | yep | 17:47 |
| rush | cool lol | 17:47 |
| rush | its was becoming a monologue | 17:47 |
| * daftykins has seen far worse | 17:47 | |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 17:47 |
| rush | does ubuntu remain stable for long? | 17:48 |
| rush | i mean.. afte ra few months, its often a godo idea to reinstal lwindows | 17:48 |
| rush | how about linux ? | 17:48 |
| rush | sorry, bad typing... thse laptops have prety much the best keypboars u can get, but ther eis no hope for me | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | lts | rush | 17:50 |
| Tegu | I haven't felt the need to reinstall neither windows nor ubuntu after a few months | 17:51 |
| rush | its gets slow sometimes | 17:52 |
| daftykins | not been true about Windows since XP :) | 17:52 |
| Tegu | but yea, check LTS indeed and compare it to the life cycle of non-LTS releases | 17:52 |
| rush | or a tleast used to on windows.. maybe 10 is better though | 17:52 |
| rush | hmm | 17:52 |
| rush | whats lts? | 17:52 |
| daftykins | !lts | 17:52 |
| ubot5 | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Bionic (Bionic Beaver 18.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. | 17:52 |
| rush | i see | 17:52 |
| rush | make or break tiem for england.. facing columbia any minute now | 17:55 |
| rush | by the way.. would you recommend using 'wine' for running windows programs, not games. or better to just is virtual box? | 17:57 |
| rush | photo editing peograms etc | 17:57 |
| oerheks_ | never! | 17:58 |
| oerheks_ | wine should die | 17:58 |
| oerheks_ | :-D | 17:58 |
| daftykins | either commit fully or dualboot | 17:59 |
| rush | lol | 17:59 |
| blackflow | oerheks_: shush! | 17:59 |
| daftykins | buuuut dualboot is messy since you will always end up neglecting one OS over the other | 17:59 |
| blackflow | or! or! gpu passthrough qemu-kvm! (virtualbox is a toy) | 18:00 |
| daftykins | i am the black sheep of the channel as i only run Linux servers :) | 18:00 |
| daftykins | meh, relies on VT-io and so forth :> | 18:00 |
| oerheks_ | explore the beautifull linux programs like darktable, then you would drop wine forever | 18:01 |
| rush | sorrry.. football time .. bbl | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | choose football over ubuntu now? | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | !hwe | 18:18 |
| ubot5 | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 18:18 |
| daftykins | xD | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1779723 | 18:37 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1779723 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "[Wishlist] Add a GUI option autoremove kernel cleanup on updates" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | seems like its a work in progress already | 18:37 |
| lotuspsychje | morning hggdh | 19:41 |
| hggdh | lotuspsychje: agood afternoon | 19:41 |
| lotuspsychje | hggdh: can you heat yourself a bit on your area :p | 19:42 |
| nacc | does this user just not understand networking? why are they using VMs at all | 21:03 |
| oerheks | yes, i wonder, existing vbox vm, and now changing with netplan | 21:07 |
| blackflow | oerheks: wants to switch from dhcp to static | 21:08 |
| oerheks | the host has set it already, or could | 21:08 |
| oerheks | it is always good to show the guide at the end | 21:10 |
| oerheks | :-D | 21:11 |
| oerheks | let us guess, sweat and think hard | 21:11 |
| blackflow | they showed it earlier and I already asked earlier if they used those numbers but didn't get the response :) | 21:11 |
| oerheks | oh, i missed that :-( | 21:12 |
| tomreyn | this wasnt the first tme, was it :) <zmugg> randolf, are you here man? | 23:43 |
| oerheks | iirc so yes | 23:47 |
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