[01:22] Eickmeyer: I have an addition to -controls that will turn up and unmute speakers when the phones are unplugged. However from what you have said... I am not sure it would help you. It doesn't work on my son's computer either (laptop) which shows not headphone or speakers levels in the mixer. [01:22] OvenWerks: :/ [01:23] There is a utility called hda_analizer.py That shows a bunch of pin stuff [01:23] If I may throw some good news your way, I managed to package Cadence, and Catia can be installed separately, so it looks like we have a viable replacement for Patchage. [01:24] I am told it should hold some keys [01:24] That does sound good. [01:24] Now to add it to the repo... [01:25] I just need to clean it up to make lintian happy. Also, I packaged the latest version of the Calf plugins that fixes a bug that causes Ardour to crash. [01:25] Might require less cleanup since I used leftovers from the package in the repo. [01:26] There have been more comments about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/AudioHandbook/UsingVSTPlugins [01:26] I was trying to get Carla's wine bridges to work, but alas, there's a ton of work that would go into it. [01:26] ""Next, download a VST. Here is a remarkable and very popular free synth from British vendor U-He" [01:26] 16:08 < rgareus> uhm, except U-he is not British and there are native Linux versions of the plugins [01:27] Yeah, native VST versions. VST != Windows only. [01:28] There are still, somehow, people using ubuntu who think the latest Ardour is 2.* [01:29] smh [01:30] The screen shots for Ardour in the handbook are way out of date too. I don't remember the mix strip ever looking like that :) [01:32] I just s/British/German [01:34] I"m looking at the mix strip now, and it looks very similar, just different colors. He left the fader out. [01:34] I could probably sub it out. [01:35] The buttons are differently placed too. Probably not a really big deal [01:35] It translates well, tbh. [01:36] The write up on VST plugins should be changed somewhat I think. [01:37] It shouldl at least not say that vst plugins are not available for linux because that is just wrong [01:37] As of vst3 linux is even officially supported. [01:37] Yeah. I'll make the changes. [01:37] (by Steinberg) [01:38] VST isn't proprietary anymore, is it? [01:38] Yes it is, but there is a GPL api version. [01:39] vst2 is officially not there any more. Steinberg is actively going after people who create new plugins for it. [01:42] your problem with Carla and wine may be 32bit vs 64bit. [01:42] wine that is [01:43] a lot of win vst are 32bit. [01:43] You will want to make any wine lib you pull in match whatever LMMS pulls in. [01:44] That's part of the problem. The other part is that I couldn't get the bridge to compile properly because of an error in WINE. [01:46] I just made changes to the VST plugins section that remove references to wine or 32-bit. That section could, honetly, eventually be removed. I might rewrite it to include effects plugins as well. [01:50] The only windows program I have ever used in linux is hulls.exe [01:51] It is the only one that has run well for me. [01:52] For anything else there has been something in Linux that worked for me [01:52] Yeah, that's why I haven't done much with Waves plugins like my co-worker, because LV2 plugins work well for me. [01:54] Honestly, if it's possible to get LinVST packaged, that might be the way to go for people who want to use Windows VST plugins. [01:54] But, I'm not going to waste my energy on it yet. [01:56] I'm just happy to get Calf 0.90.0 and Cadence packaged. I think I'll be done for the evening. [02:13] does our version of Ardour include the a-* plugins? [02:15] a-fluidsynth has replaced my last use for calf. [02:18] https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/amd64/ardour/filelist - appears to be so. [02:19] Ya, the show up when I open Ardour, just wanted to make sure that wasn't because I also build Ardour src [02:19] I see. [02:21] My Harrison plugins don't show though... maybe I haven't imported them from my 16.04 yet [02:22] my keys are there... [02:38] we don't seem to set LV2PATH [21:19] hu, "All runlevel operations denied by policy [21:19] invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of reload. [21:25] then listed are a number of cups packages... I am guessing cups updating is half done.