[00:07] suggestions for a mail client? I cant seem to find one in the store. [00:11] Dekko2 [00:14] from the openstore? [00:15] Yes but not with xenial [00:15] oh. Figured I would just try it out. I can wipe it again and go back if there are more apps on stable [00:16] Sure [00:17] any idea when it will come to xenial? I'm not useing this as my daily driver just a nexus I had lying around so I could just wait. [00:20] Often asked but no more answer than « in development » [00:25] https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/issues/98 [00:26] 3 months ago :( [00:29] wonder how long it takes to compile apps on phone? I hope there is an emulator or something they can use to compile faster [00:53] most can be cross-compiled [03:36] Has anyone ported Ubuntu touch for Mtk devices? … Is there any documentation for it? [03:41] @Yugal_Patil, I'm thinking there was something weird with mtk devices that make porting a nightmare. I could be wrong though [03:50] @Yugal_Patil, do you have kernel source code? [04:08] @anpok, I meant before it's enabled through hdmitx, it's not considered attached, so I wondered if any code in Ubuntu Touch handled that [04:09] oh, the browser-ng scroll bar is a part of qtwebengine... [04:09] as for source... hwcomposer is closed-source blob at least before Oreo [04:28] @NotKit, yes... [04:33] which SoC? [04:33] if's mt6737 or so, might be feasible [04:37] yes I've mt6737 device... [04:38] is there any written guide for that...? [04:40] Halium + UBPorts porting docs [04:40] but it won't contain all the possible quirks needed [05:01] Photojoe4 was added by: Photojoe4 [05:01] Has anyone had any real success using UT on a Nexus 5x? [05:03] By that I mean basic functionality- make/recieve phone calls and texts, web browser, maps... [05:06] I'm wanting to try to try to make the transition to the Librem 5 as seamless as I can, so I want to start using a device now that can run either UT or Plasma Mobile... [05:17] @Photojoe4, UT is not ported yet to that device [05:19] I saw that the Nexus 5 has been, but it won't support a 32bit OS will it? [05:22] @amolith, Yep, it's even one of the first warnings on the Halium guide: "Mediatek chipsets are not open-sourced and so there is rarely a usable Android source tree available for them". [05:23] @Photojoe4, What do you mean? [05:25] Sorry, meant to say it will ONLY support a 32bit OS... [05:26] Ah okay, right [05:26] And I'd imagine that 64bit systems will become the norm before too much longer... [05:27] Yeah, probably [05:32] It seems like the 5x would be the better buy if UT were going to be developed for newer devices, and there's not really much of a price difference (think the 5x is about $30 more), and it could be used wih other OS's (Plasma Mobile, Pure OS)... [05:37] UT is being ported to other devices currently, but the problem wiht N5x is that porters found a very weird bug [05:37] [Edit] UT is being ported to other devices currently, but the problem with N5x is that porters found a very weird bug [05:40] Well that's a shame. Are they still trying to port it, or has it been abandoned? [05:40] Trying afaik [05:46] Thanks, I'll keep watching... [05:47] you're welcome [05:54] @NotKit Not that I am aware of. Can you point to the kernel sources and configuration for the device? [05:54] of Ubuntu Tablet or the one I'm porting? [05:55] the one you are portin [05:57] https://github.com/gemian/gemini-linux-kernel-3.18 [06:12] Does Matrix allow persistent storage of message history? [06:13] @TartanSpartan, I will tell you more, as it's federated, there's no way you can disable persistent storage [06:14] Are those stored on a cloud server or locally on your device? [06:17] On a server (on a lot of federated servers actually) + on device caching [06:17] It's ot though, @ubports_ot [06:18] Thanks, that's all I needed to know. [07:18] @advocatux, I'm wondering where that leaves us with the M10 FHD 32GB 4G internet tablet. Are the other M10's open-sourced? But not this one? [07:18] https://www.pdevice.com/product/bq-aquaris-m10-full-hd-32gb-4g-specs [07:25] @Photojoe4, UT is developed for 5x [07:25] It has 3.10 kernel which is a mess and hard to work with [07:26] There is only one usable 64 bit rootfs, and it's a reference one. Don't worry too much [07:26] 5x is not going to be abandoned, don't worry [07:41] I would help maintaining music-app [07:41] Is there any todo list? [07:47] @turanmahmudov, This is the current list of open issues https://github.com/ubports/music-app/issues [07:47] Ah, and thank you for your work !! [07:51] The uNav developer @costales told me that he has removed uNav from 16.04 because it did not work as it should be [07:53] He thinks the problem is from the OS [07:55] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/eXnLWd0P.png [07:57] @TartanSpartan, No, no M10 is open-sourced [08:19] @turanmahmudov, I had the same idea, but idk if I have enough time... Anyway, we could work together! [08:20] Sound great! [08:22] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/25izNIir.webp [08:26] @mymike00, Do it!!!! :) Sounds great guys, join forces [08:34] @turanmahmudov, Very cool! You can for the beginning just fork it and send us PRs ;) [09:04] @vanyasem, it shouldn't be, as i m still holding on to my newly purchased n5x [09:22] So the reason the other two M10s happened is because, of course, BQ had their closed device trees. Right? [09:23] correct [09:42] @GiovanniStaiano, Strange, I tried it in a Nexus 5 on the road and it worked OK, I did not spot any problem. [09:48] @wagafo, same here, works fine on my FP2 16.04 devel. haven't seen anything wron, am even amazed at how quick and accurate the gps is [09:48] @wagafo, [Edit] same here, works fine on my FP2 16.04 devel. haven't seen anything wrong, am even amazed at how quick and accurate the gps is [10:01] @wagafo @YougoChats Can you check if voice navigation works? [10:03] @GiovanniStaiano, It worked when I tried it [10:04] I switched to RC a couple of weeks ago … and now I thought the screenshot with Libertine in the settings app was a mock-up LOL … but it was real. awesome! … but maybe we can name it a bit more user friendly? not everyone knows or cares about the term "Libertine" [10:04] [Edit] Sounds great! [10:06] @GiovanniStaiano, can i trigger it? i've set a navigation, but i'm sitting at my desk, lol [10:43] @GiovanniStaiano uNav is working fine for me in Hammerhead 16.04 devel, the gps is a bit slower tan in Vivid but its ok.. uNav and google maps from the browser works fine as usual. Not amazing but works [11:02] @GiovanniStaiano, ok, it just spoke. it's working, but it's a rather robotic English voice and the download function for custom voices doesn't seem to work [11:06] The European Parlament has just blocked the "upload filter" 🤩 [11:09] good news! article 13 is not dead though [11:48] Libertine to me means freedom to run desktop apps on the go/in a mobile context. [11:56] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/n37DiZ7k.webp [12:09] do we have disk encryption ? [12:11] @dreamcreator108, yes and no [12:12] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/178 [12:13] https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1012/one-method-to-encrypt-home-phablet/2 [12:16] @malditobastardo, Thanks! [12:21] Hi [12:21] Libertine works with OPO [12:21] ? [12:21] 16.04/RC [12:23] it should [12:30] oh so libertine now works in xenial? [12:30] I guess except Nexus 5? 😁 [12:31] @Javacookies, it works now in hammerhead too, excepto mpv and vlc [12:31] *mpv and vlc are both working fine in other devices [12:31] really? no more python erros? [12:31] I didn't know there has been works with libertine recently [12:31] check system settings [12:32] @Javacookies Yes Libterine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line) [12:32] [Edit] @Javacookies Yes Libertine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line) [12:32] [Edit] @Javacookies Yes Libertine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line) … ubuntu-app-launch nameofapp [12:32] [Edit] @Javacookies Yes Libertine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line) … ubuntu-app-launch nameofapp … libertine-container-manager list-apps [12:37] oh I see, so the icon in the scope still doesn't work? [12:38] everything is WIP [12:40] but it's good to know 👍 … although I don't really use libertine LOL [12:41] @wagafo @YougoChats In reality, the app worked initially on 16.04 but then I saw in the OpenStore that it is no longer installable. In fact I think that if you had to uninstall it, it would not be possible to install it again, for now. [12:42] @GiovanniStaiano, I will try it again tomorrow, I think voices were working fine also, at least for my language [12:44] @GiovanniStaiano, you can go to open-store.io in a browser and manually download a click file, and then install it with OpenStore app or UTTT. with a bit of luck a vivid app will run on xenial [12:44] if not, just uninstall again [12:45] ulrichard was added by: ulrichard [12:45] @YougoChats, I will try this way [12:45] @wagafo, Ok maybe only the voices already downloaded work [12:47] Is there a Bitcoin wallet for UBports? I cannot even find the half working java wallet, that was in the store a couple of years ago. [12:49] if there isn't one in the store then the short answer is no [12:51] So, the place to start would be (https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html)? … How feasible is it to port something like electrum which is python and Qt? [12:52] yes. it's definitely feasible, especially if it's using pyotherside and qt5 already [13:35] HI tried to flahs nexus 5 got messed up as error say thre is a bug anyone else had this problem [13:37] I was trying to install16.04 rc [13:57] Yeah, I got tha tyesterday. Think it's a known issue but @neothethird will know. I just retried a couple of times and things worked ok. [14:23] ar7ch was added by: ar7ch [14:29] How to install ut for nexus5 without using the app ? App for windows not see phone. Adb works [14:58] Windows app is phucked and therefore you should use linux one [14:59] @Kirill, Are you using the latest version of the installler? https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases/latest [15:00] @VeryOriginalUsername, your intel is outdated ;) just fixed it the other day [15:01] Latest and 0.1.9 [15:01] @neothethird, Uhh last time I tried 0.13 was newest 😜 [15:01] @VeryOriginalUsername, yeah, we didn't make a big announcement or something :D still in beta anyways [15:02] @Kirill, Hmm, that shouldn't happen, but it does from time to time unfortunately. Could you try a different usb cable and usb port on the PC to rule connection problems out? [15:03] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Qlmdg9zC.png No problem [15:03] Hmm [15:05] @Kirill, are you perhaps missing fastboot? [15:05] I will look into it, but it might take some time [15:05] @dohbee, it's the same driver [15:06] oh ok [15:06] @Kirill, i don't know how technical you are, but if you're comfortable with that, you could try running the installer from source [15:09] Just to be sure, could you try and see if your device is detected with these adb and fastboot binaries as well? https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip [15:09] that's the ones that are shipped with the installer [15:14] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/w8QXosqE.png [15:14] https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/701 [15:14] Fastboot need reboot bootloader [15:15] Could that bug be why I haven't been able to launch Libertine apps via CLI (or otherwise) on Xenial RC MX4? [15:23] @Kirill, just for the heck of it, could you try running the installer as an administrator? [15:26] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/kjntg84b.png no change, does not see device [15:26] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/IALAYOWO.png Driver [15:27] I usually manually go to fastboot at that point [15:28] In the manual also did not see [15:29] on ubuntu 18.04 too not sees device [15:30] is it unlocked, and then debug mode turned back on [15:34] @Kirill, and when you select it manually? [15:34] because auto-detection does not (read: can not) work always [15:36] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bTheXp37.png [15:38] then it flashes recovery right, then manually go back into again [15:39] try both volume up and then volume down [15:44] Vikas Poonia was added by: Vikas Poonia [15:45] Nothing happens [15:45] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bG9mW6Ms.png [15:45] Fastboot [18:03] On another computer also does not see the device [18:06] @Kirill, ?? [18:23] Feedback: Nexus 5, for me installing UBports works only from ubuntu installed on pc, no chance (device not seen ) on win10, high Sierra macOS or Ubuntu live, all with latest updates. [18:25] @Kirill, are you running installer with admin privs btw? [18:26] Yes admin privs [18:30] Is there anybody succeeded with installing ubports onto latest FP2. Tried on debian 9.4, ubuntu 16.04, macOS... nothing. [18:32] @Pascal, Logs please [18:34] @Remus Barth, Did you check out `adb` and `fastboot` is on your user `$PATH` ? I've seen that issue with both Sierra and W10 … What installer did you use on Ubuntu live? Did you check out `adb` and `fastboot` tools were installed? [18:37] Yes. adb and fastboot manually fond the phone, ubports-installer fails. [18:38] Adb, fastboot ok, path don’t check, Ubuntu live 16.04 [18:38] Tried 0.1.13, 0.1.18, 0.1.9. [18:38] Ubuntu is not live, but installés. [18:39] @Remus Barth, which package did you use on Ubuntu live xenial? .snap, .deb., appimage? [18:39] Did you see anything weird in the installer log? [18:39] Adb and fastboot are in /usr/bin. [18:41] I must manually select the FP2, not detected. I tried the install on nexus 7 2013 today with success. [18:42] Snap [18:42] Result: fail: .. Error ...loading libudev.so.1...... [18:43] FAILED (remote: bootimage : incomplete or not signed), then installer hangs. [18:45] I downloaded the debs from ubports, or GitHub. [18:51] @Remus Barth, Did you check out that Ubuntu live was fully updated? Is that library installed on your computer? BTW a full log is better to know what was happening ;) [18:52] Pascal only the full installer log can give us a clue of what was happening [18:52] Fully updated, no log sorry, it was live... [18:54] It doesn't matter it's a live stick, the snap installer log is in `/snap/ubports-installer/current/.cache/ubports` [18:55] You can paste the full log on https://paste.ubuntu.com/ for example and give us the link [19:01] thx for help ! … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X7jkfc8rsr/ [19:03] Another thing while I take a look to the log. Have you tried with a different usb cable and/or different usb port? You wouldn't believe how many installation fail for that [19:04] Sorry, i had to install Telegram on my debian distro. [19:10] Tried with the Nexus 7's cable i used successfully today : nope. I notice adb's talking about port 5038 in the logs, but debian's talking about port 5037 in any shell. [19:13] @Pascal, Good, I'm a Debian as well :) … Okay, it seems you're suffering this bug https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/184 Can you try with the latest installer once again? https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases/latest Thank you [19:15] I tried with the 0.1.18 two minutes ago. [19:16] Oh [19:17] I'm out of ideas then, sorry [19:17] How you tried to run the installer with sudo? [19:18] @NotKit I would try building a kernel with debugging enabled: https://github.com/gemian/gemini-linux-kernel-3.18/blob/master/drivers/misc/mediatek/hdmi/sil9024/hdmi_drv.c there seem to be some printks.. [19:18] you could turn on.. [19:18]