 suggestions for a mail client? I cant seem to find one in the store.
 Dekko2
 from the openstore?
 Yes but not with xenial
 oh. Figured I would just try it out. I can wipe it again and go back if there are more apps on stable
 Sure
 any idea when it will come to xenial? I'm not useing this as my daily driver just a nexus I had lying around so I could just wait.
 Often asked but no more answer than « in development »
 https://gitlab.com/dekkoproject/dekko/issues/98
 3 months ago :(
 wonder how long it takes to compile apps on phone? I hope there is an emulator or something they can use to compile faster
 most can be cross-compiled
 Has anyone ported Ubuntu touch for Mtk devices? … Is there any documentation for it?
 @Yugal_Patil, I'm thinking there was something weird with mtk devices that make porting a nightmare. I could be wrong though
 @Yugal_Patil, do you have kernel source code?
 @anpok, I meant before it's enabled through hdmitx, it's not considered attached, so I wondered if any code in Ubuntu Touch handled that
 oh, the browser-ng scroll bar is a part of qtwebengine...
 as for source... hwcomposer is closed-source blob at least before Oreo
 @NotKit, yes...
 which SoC?
 if's mt6737 or so, might be feasible
 yes I've mt6737 device...
 is there any written guide for that...?
 Halium + UBPorts porting docs
 but it won't contain all the possible quirks needed
[05:01] <ubptgbot> Photojoe4 was added by: Photojoe4
 Has anyone had any real success using UT on a Nexus 5x?
 By that I mean basic functionality- make/recieve phone calls and texts, web browser, maps...
 I'm wanting to try to try to make the transition to the Librem 5 as seamless as I can, so I want to start using a device now that can run either UT or Plasma Mobile...
 @Photojoe4, UT is not ported yet to that device
 I saw that the Nexus 5 has been, but it won't support a 32bit OS will it?
 @amolith, Yep, it's even one of the first warnings on the Halium guide: "Mediatek chipsets are not open-sourced and so there is rarely a usable Android source tree available for them".
 @Photojoe4, What do you mean?
 Sorry, meant to say it will ONLY support a 32bit OS...
 Ah okay, right
 And I'd imagine that 64bit systems will become the norm before too much longer...
 Yeah, probably
 It seems like the 5x would be the better buy if UT were going to be developed for newer devices, and there's not really much of a price difference (think the 5x is about $30 more), and it could be used wih other OS's (Plasma Mobile, Pure OS)...
 UT is being ported to other devices currently, but the problem wiht N5x is that porters found a very weird bug
 [Edit] UT is being ported to other devices currently, but the problem with N5x is that porters found a very weird bug
 Well that's a shame. Are they still trying to port it, or has it been abandoned?
 Trying afaik
 Thanks, I'll keep watching...
 you're welcome
 @NotKit Not that I am aware of. Can you point to the kernel sources and configuration for the device?
 of Ubuntu Tablet or the one I'm porting?
 the one you are portin
 https://github.com/gemian/gemini-linux-kernel-3.18
 Does Matrix allow persistent storage of message history?
 @TartanSpartan, I will tell you more, as it's federated, there's no way you can disable persistent storage
 Are those stored on a cloud server or locally on your device?
 On a server (on a lot of federated servers actually) + on device caching
 It's ot though, @ubports_ot
 Thanks, that's all I needed to know.
 @advocatux, I'm wondering where that leaves us with the M10 FHD 32GB 4G internet tablet. Are the other M10's open-sourced? But not this one?
 https://www.pdevice.com/product/bq-aquaris-m10-full-hd-32gb-4g-specs
 @Photojoe4, UT is developed for 5x
 It has 3.10 kernel which is a mess and hard to work with
 There is only one usable 64 bit rootfs, and it's a reference one. Don't worry too much
 5x is not going to be abandoned, don't worry
 I would help maintaining music-app
 Is there any todo list?
 @turanmahmudov, This is the current list of open issues https://github.com/ubports/music-app/issues
 Ah, and thank you for your work !!
 The uNav developer @costales told me that he has removed uNav from 16.04 because it did not work as it should be
 He thinks the problem is from the OS
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/eXnLWd0P.png
 @TartanSpartan, No, no M10 is open-sourced
 @turanmahmudov, I had the same idea, but idk if I have enough time... Anyway, we could work together!
 Sound great!
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/25izNIir.webp
 @mymike00, Do it!!!! :) Sounds great guys, join forces
 @turanmahmudov, Very cool! You can for the beginning just fork it and send us PRs ;)
 @vanyasem, it shouldn't be, as i m still holding on to my newly purchased n5x
 So the reason the other two M10s happened is because, of course, BQ had their closed device trees. Right?
 correct
 @GiovanniStaiano, Strange, I tried it in a Nexus 5 on the road and it worked OK, I did not spot any problem.
 @wagafo, same here, works fine on my FP2 16.04 devel. haven't seen anything wron, am even amazed at how quick and accurate the gps is
 @wagafo, [Edit] same here, works fine on my FP2 16.04 devel. haven't seen anything wrong, am even amazed at how quick and accurate the gps is
 @wagafo @YougoChats Can you check if voice navigation works?
 @GiovanniStaiano, It worked when I tried it
 I switched to RC a couple of weeks ago … and now I thought the screenshot with Libertine in the settings app was a mock-up LOL … but it was real. awesome! … but maybe we can name it a bit more user friendly? not everyone knows or cares about the term "Libertine"
 [Edit] Sounds great!
 @GiovanniStaiano, can i trigger it? i've set a navigation, but i'm sitting at my desk, lol
 @GiovanniStaiano uNav is working fine for me in Hammerhead 16.04 devel, the gps is a bit slower tan in Vivid but its ok.. uNav and google maps from the browser works fine as usual. Not amazing but works
 @GiovanniStaiano, ok, it just spoke. it's working, but it's a rather robotic English voice and the download function for custom voices doesn't seem to work
 The European Parlament has just blocked the "upload filter" 🤩
 good news! article 13 is not dead though
 Libertine to me means freedom to run desktop apps on the go/in a mobile context.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/n37DiZ7k.webp
 do we have disk encryption ?
 @dreamcreator108, yes and no
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/178
 https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1012/one-method-to-encrypt-home-phablet/2
 @malditobastardo, Thanks!
 Hi
 Libertine works with OPO
 ?
 16.04/RC
 it should
 oh so libertine now works in xenial?
 I guess except Nexus 5? 😁
 @Javacookies, it works now in hammerhead too, excepto mpv and vlc
 *mpv and vlc are both working fine in other devices
 really? no more python erros?
 I didn't know there has been works with libertine recently
 check system settings
[12:32] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Eitzenberger> @Javacookies Yes Libterine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line)
[12:32] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Eitzenberger> [Edit] @Javacookies Yes Libertine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line)
[12:32] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Eitzenberger> [Edit] @Javacookies Yes Libertine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line) … ubuntu-app-launch nameofapp
[12:32] <ubptgbot> <Thomas Eitzenberger> [Edit] @Javacookies Yes Libertine kinda works (alas you need to start the apps via cmd line) … ubuntu-app-launch nameofapp … libertine-container-manager list-apps
 oh I see, so the icon in the scope still doesn't work?
 everything is WIP
 but it's good to know 👍 … although I don't really use libertine LOL
 @wagafo @YougoChats In reality, the app worked initially on 16.04 but then I saw in the OpenStore that it is no longer installable. In fact I think that if you had to uninstall it, it would not be possible to install it again, for now.
 @GiovanniStaiano, I will try it again tomorrow, I think voices were working fine also, at least for my language
 @GiovanniStaiano, you can go to open-store.io in a browser and manually download a click file, and then install it with OpenStore app or UTTT. with a bit of luck a vivid app will run on xenial
 if not, just uninstall again
[12:45] <ubptgbot> ulrichard was added by: ulrichard
 @YougoChats, I will try this way
 @wagafo, Ok maybe only the voices already downloaded work
 Is there a Bitcoin wallet for UBports? I cannot even find the half working java wallet, that was in the store a couple of years ago.
 if there isn't one in the store then the short answer is no
 So, the place to start would be (https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html)?   … How feasible is it to port something like electrum which is python and Qt?
 yes. it's definitely feasible, especially if it's using pyotherside and qt5 already
 HI tried to flahs nexus 5 got messed up as error say thre is a bug anyone else had this problem
 I was trying to install16.04 rc
 Yeah, I got tha tyesterday. Think it's a known issue but @neothethird will know. I just retried a couple of times and things worked ok.
[14:23] <ubptgbot> ar7ch was added by: ar7ch
 How to install ut for nexus5 without using the app ? App for windows not see phone. Adb works
 Windows app is phucked and therefore you should use linux one
 @Kirill, Are you using the latest version of the installler? https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases/latest
 @VeryOriginalUsername, your intel is outdated ;) just fixed it the other day
 Latest and  0.1.9
 @neothethird, Uhh last time I tried 0.13 was newest 😜
 @VeryOriginalUsername, yeah, we didn't make a big announcement or something :D still in beta anyways
 @Kirill, Hmm, that shouldn't happen, but it does from time to time unfortunately. Could you try a different usb cable and usb port on the PC to rule connection problems out?
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Qlmdg9zC.png No problem
 Hmm
 @Kirill, are you perhaps missing fastboot?
 I will look into it, but it might take some time
 @dohbee, it's the same driver
 oh ok
 @Kirill, i don't know how technical you are, but if you're comfortable with that, you could try running the installer from source
 Just to be sure, could you try and see if your device is detected with these adb and fastboot binaries as well? https://dl.google.com/android/repository/platform-tools-latest-windows.zip
 that's the ones that are shipped with the installer
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/w8QXosqE.png
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/701
 Fastboot need reboot bootloader
 Could that bug be why I haven't been able to launch Libertine apps via CLI (or otherwise) on Xenial RC MX4?
 @Kirill, just for the heck of it, could you try running the installer as an administrator?
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/kjntg84b.png no change, does not see device
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/IALAYOWO.png Driver
 I usually manually go to fastboot at that point
 In the manual also did not see
 on ubuntu 18.04 too not sees device
 is it unlocked, and then debug mode turned back on
 @Kirill, and when you select it manually?
 because auto-detection does not (read: can not) work always
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bTheXp37.png
 then it flashes recovery right, then manually go back into again
 try both volume up and then volume down
[15:44] <ubptgbot> Vikas Poonia was added by: Vikas Poonia
 Nothing happens
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/bG9mW6Ms.png
 Fastboot
 On another computer also does not see the device
[18:06] <ubptgbot> <Vikas Poonia> @Kirill, ??
[18:23] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Feedback: Nexus 5, for me installing UBports works only from ubuntu installed on pc, no chance (device not seen ) on win10, high Sierra macOS or Ubuntu live, all with latest updates.
 @Kirill, are you running installer with admin privs btw?
 Yes admin privs
 Is there anybody succeeded with installing ubports onto latest FP2. Tried on debian 9.4, ubuntu 16.04, macOS... nothing.
 @Pascal, Logs please
 @Remus Barth, Did you check out `adb` and `fastboot` is on your user `$PATH` ? I've seen that issue with both Sierra and W10 … What installer did you use on Ubuntu live? Did you check out `adb` and `fastboot` tools were installed?
 Yes. adb and fastboot manually fond the phone, ubports-installer fails.
[18:38] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Adb, fastboot ok, path don’t check, Ubuntu live 16.04
 Tried 0.1.13, 0.1.18, 0.1.9.
 Ubuntu is not live, but installés.
 @Remus Barth, which package did you use on Ubuntu live xenial? .snap, .deb., appimage?
 Did you see anything weird in the installer log?
 Adb and fastboot are in /usr/bin.
 I must manually select the FP2, not detected. I tried the install on nexus 7 2013 today with success.
[18:42] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Snap
[18:42] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Result: fail: .. Error ...loading libudev.so.1......
 FAILED (remote: bootimage : incomplete or not signed), then installer hangs.
 I downloaded the debs from ubports, or GitHub.
 @Remus Barth, Did you check out that Ubuntu live was fully updated? Is that library installed on your computer? BTW a full log is better to know what was happening ;)
 Pascal only the full installer log can give us a clue of what was happening
[18:52] <ubptgbot> <Remus Barth> Fully updated, no log sorry, it was live...
 It doesn't matter it's a live stick, the snap installer log is in `/snap/ubports-installer/current/.cache/ubports`
 You can paste the full log on https://paste.ubuntu.com/ for example and give us the link
 thx for help ! … https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X7jkfc8rsr/
 Another thing while I take a look to the log. Have you tried with a different usb cable and/or different usb port? You wouldn't believe how many installation fail for that
 Sorry, i had to install Telegram on my debian distro.
 Tried with the Nexus 7's cable i used successfully today : nope. I notice adb's talking about port 5038 in the logs,  but debian's talking about port 5037 in any shell.
 @Pascal, Good, I'm a Debian as well :) … Okay, it seems you're suffering this bug https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/184 Can you try with the latest installer once again? https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases/latest Thank you
 I tried with the 0.1.18 two minutes ago.
 Oh
 I'm out of ideas then, sorry
 How you tried to run the installer with sudo?
 @NotKit I would try building a kernel with debugging enabled: https://github.com/gemian/gemini-linux-kernel-3.18/blob/master/drivers/misc/mediatek/hdmi/sil9024/hdmi_drv.c there seem to be some printks..
 you could turn on..
 also the hdmi_drv_status always returns  no_device...
 [Edit] Have you tried to run the installer with sudo?
 I ran installer the installer with sudo too.
 I am not such an expert to build a kernel... and I probably have no such time to learn it today !
 @Pascal, That was my last idea 😅 Let's see what the installer developers have to say!
 Thanks a lot fr your help, again !
 @Pascal, That's a different thread, I mean, not related with your issue 👍
 @Pascal, You're welcome, and again I'm sorry I couldn't find a solution!
 Is there a dual sim phone that works with UT that is a bit higher spec than my old BQ4.5? I'm looking at affordable second hand options not new and expensive ones.
 Pro 5.
 By the way, what is the most recent device that runs ut
 Like I don't think there's one with snap 821/835/845
 https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/95-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-4gbRAM-LTE-Unlocked-DualSIM-21Mcam-NFC-FastCharge-/272196027342?nav=SEARCH
 @VeryOriginalUsername, FP2 probably
 @VeryOriginalUsername, perhaps htc 10, though it is incomplete port
 not sure if there's anything newer with an active port happening
 maybe galaxy s8?
 @dohbee, Stale port
 @dohbee, Marius ported Op6
 Which is currently the newest device
 It's incomplete just as htc 10 though
 Same state
 Yes, I'm waiting for a full port since this https://twitter.com/Mariogrip/status/987788101387997185
 wow
 Marius thought that it'd have USB 3
 It does not
 lol
 He did not actually port it to my knowledge
 That was a "I want to do this" tweet.
 Oh... any progress on the other OPOs (3&5)?
 @UniversalSuperBox, htc 10 does. wink wink nudge nudge
 Xperia XZ2 has 3.1 gen1
 The LG G5 has DP out/Slimport :v
 @Lyokanthrope, Htc 10 too
 It's even confirmed working my Marius
 [Edit] It's even confirmed working by Marius
 Ye
 and 1440p
 mmm pixels
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/5Nc03G1d.mp4
 Oh this is the super group, I got confused with "mmm pixels"
 Well I've run into some trouble. All my repairing of my Nexus 5 seems to have finally actually damaged something. How can I check (using cli) if the vibrate . . . thing? still works? It's not vibrating at all now and I'm not sure if it's software or hardware.
 test_vibrate?
 Well it's not even vibrating when I turn it off/on. It's probably hardware then 😕