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tsimonq2xnox: What's up with that debootstrap / rsyslog bug?05:20
tsimonq2I'd like to test some changes I made with the Lubuntu Cosmic daily that only show up on a new ISO build... I'm willing to contribute some time to help with the fix if that's what we're waiting on :)05:21
tsimonq2Laney: I believe I worked with you on this: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/bug-1654761/+merge/34897205:59
tsimonq2As I mention in there, the specifics we discussed aren't really fresh in my mind anymore, unfortunately, but I'm cleaning up my assigned bugs and I want to drive it to completion.05:59
tsimonq2(as mentioned, this is bug 1654761)05:59
ubot5bug 1654761 in Auto Package Testing "Make sure duplicate tests cannot be queued" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165476105:59
slangasektsimonq2: what's the problem with leaving qtgamepad-everywhere-src where it is, given that it's dep-wait?06:01
tsimonq2slangasek: It's a bit cleaner; I don't have a compelling reason for why it needs to go *now*.06:02
slangasektsimonq2: I don't see why it would need to go at all, vs. just building at a later date when its build-deps are satisfiable06:03
tsimonq2slangasek: Either way, it'll be superseded. You make a good point; it won't hurt.06:04
slangasekalso, looks like xnox worked around the debootstrap failure in rsyslog, and now things fail differently06:06
tsimonq2Oh?06:06
slangasektoday's image build logs seem to fail later, post-bootstrap06:06
tsimonq2terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'06:06
tsimonq2  what():  random_device::random_device(const std::string&)06:06
tsimonq2Aborted (core dumped)06:06
tsimonq2ah06:06
* tsimonq2 tries to repro locally06:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.33.1ubuntu1 => 2.33.1ubuntu2] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)06:46
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: budgie-extras (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.4.4-0ubuntu1 => 0.4.4-0ubuntu1.1] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)06:48
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (bionic-proposed/main) [2.33.1+18.04ubuntu1 => 2.33.1+18.04ubuntu2] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)06:52
tsimonq2infinity, slangasek: Speaking of cleaning up stuff, could I please get some more eyes on this, and get it merged if it looks good? https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/debian-cd/lubuntu-cosmic-changes/+merge/34579207:10
tsimonq2From the discussion we had on May 22nd, we're going to go with having a "Start Lubuntu" option with a single desktop icon first, and down the road I'll look at implementing "maybe-ubiquity"-like features (with the rename from ubiquity to generic names like planned).07:12
tsimonq2calamares-settings-ubuntu 3 should add the desktop icon.07:12
infinitytsimonq2: You got NOTRYONLYDO backwards.  And I think there were two if blocks that could be replaced by it (which was why I argued for it)?07:14
infinitytsimonq2: I mean, maybe the intend of the Yodaism wasn't clear, but it was for images that have 1 install option, instead of both an install and a try (hence "no try") :P07:15
tsimonq2infinity: Looking.07:15
tsimonq2infinity: So you're saying, throw NOTRYONLYDO in kubuntu*, lubuntu, and ubuntu-server and keep the change to "if [ "$NOTRYONLYDO" = "true" ]; then" as-is?07:17
infinitytsimonq2: Set it true for the special cases, and test for != true.07:17
infinitytsimonq2: I might be wrong about the second if statement, can't find it in a quick scan.07:18
tsimonq2infinity: Isn't the end result of what I have the same?07:18
infinitytsimonq2: The end result is the same, but the variable name makes no sense the way you have it.07:18
tsimonq2infinity: Ah, gotcha. I'll fix, sec.07:18
infinitytsimonq2: Also the more stylistic nit-pick that setting variables explicitly for special cases is better than implicitly in the catch-all (IMO).07:20
infinityBut mostly, just the inverted meaning is confusing.07:20
infinityThe people who crusade against LOC would disagree with me on the style thing, but I prefer self-documenting code to "elegance" via removing two lines.07:21
tsimonq2infinity: Better?07:21
tsimonq2(I personally prefer the style of, "Oh, these three are special. If it isn't special, set the env var in the catch-all.")07:22
infinitytsimonq2: I suppose it also depends on what the var gets used for, what the default actually is, etc.07:23
tsimonq2Right.07:24
infinityBut I think this is clearer that it's "weird" to have a single-option boot menu, and you should ask for it.07:24
infinityWhereas the way you had it, any newly-added case would be single-option by default unless they dug up the magic var.07:24
tsimonq2Ah, true.07:25
infinity(Also fixable by setting it outside the case block, then re-setting it inside)07:25
infinityBut that's overkill here.07:25
infinityThis looks better indeed.07:26
tsimonq2Great.07:27
tsimonq2infinity: I don't mean to nag, but did you plan on merging it? :P07:34
Laneytsimonq2: thx07:36
tsimonq2Laney: Thank *you*. :)07:36
LaneyI'm on the way to guadec but I'll see if I can07:36
tsimonq2Great, let me know.07:37
tsimonq2(I hear Almería is great; Akademy was there one of those past years but I didn't get to go. :( )07:37
valoriegreat, historic, HOT07:39
valoriealso the journey there and back is.... indirect07:40
valorieI think if I went again I would drive from Barcelona down the coast07:40
tsimonq2valorie: If I recall correctly, Laney is in $somewhere_in_Europe so it might be easier for him.07:41
valoriecan't think of anywhere else in Europe I'd want to drive07:41
tsimonq2(Please don't hurt me, I don't get involved in British politics about who or what is technically in Europe. <3)07:41
valorietsimonq2: nothing goes directly to Almeria07:41
tsimonq2valorie: Ah.07:41
valorieit's sort of in a corner or so07:42
infinitytsimonq2: I'll merge it, just working on waking up. :P07:45
tsimonq2infinity: Are you participating in GUADEC funness too? :P07:46
valorieinfinity: 🍵07:46
infinitytsimonq2: I don't GUADEC, no.07:46
tsimonq2valorie: I think it's sort of funny how GUADEC organizers decided to do the conf in the same location as Akademy last year. :P07:47
tsimonq2infinity: Gotcha.07:47
tsimonq2infinity: No problem.07:47
tsimonq2(I'm about to go to bed myself.)07:47
valorieoh, we trade good places to have confs all the time07:47
infinityGUADEC and Akademy should have been combined as a freedektop.org conf long ago.  Might have encouraged more colab on common interfaces.07:48
valoriethe local teams are skilled and handle everybody07:48
tsimonq2Hahahahahaha.07:48
valorieinfinity: oh, we tried and tried, believe me07:48
tsimonq2XD07:48
valoriemy first big conf was Desktop Summit in Berlin07:48
infinityvalorie: Not implying people haven't tried, just that it should have worked. :P07:48
valoriecompletely agree07:48
tsimonq2valorie: Define "big conf".07:49
valorieat least the phone people are all cooperating these days07:49
tsimonq2Mhhhhh.07:49
tsimonq2In one part of the stack.07:49
valorieAkademy is..... sometimes bigger, sometimes smaller than LFNW07:50
tsimonq2Gotcha.07:50
valorieDesktop Summit was twice as big07:50
tsimonq2To be fair, I only have LFNW and SELF as reference points. :P07:50
valorieright, and it would be good to have GNOME and KDE cooperating lower in the stack more than we do07:50
tsimonq2But something the size of LFNW but with people working in the same Linux project? Wow.07:51
valoriebelieve me, I've talked to lots of GNOME devels about this, one to one07:51
tsimonq2valorie: Well, there's systemd. :P07:51
tsimonq2systemd is going to become so big one day it has its own permanent conference center...07:51
valorielennart is sort of his own show07:51
tsimonq2"systemd-conferenced, now complete with half the booths being duct-taped to the ceiling."07:52
tsimonq2Anyway, I should go to bed.07:53
tsimonq2Nice chatting valorie and infinity.07:53
valorieniters here too07:57
LocutusOfBorgLaney, hello, am I right thinking you are trying to sort out mariadb-10.1 autopkgtests?08:16
LocutusOfBorgI'm doing qgis, the last big transition blocker08:16
LaneyNo08:17
LaneyI asked some others to look08:18
LocutusOfBorgok fine for me08:37
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.33.1+18.04ubuntu2]08:46
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted fpc [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg-18ubuntu1]10:02
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnucash [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [1:3.2-1]10:56
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LocutusOfBorgfolks, qgis is a sad no-go because of sip4 doing segfault in code generation11:01
LocutusOfBorgwhat is your opinion wrt kicking it out to proposed, while we debug the issue?11:01
LocutusOfBorgalso kicking mariadb-10.1 out to proposed might make the ~15 transitions land, and then leave time for autosync and fixes for the two above11:01
LocutusOfBorgSegmentation fault11:02
dokoLocutusOfBorg: please ask cpaelzer about mariadb/mysql11:08
LaneyDon't duplicate, I've asked juliank and sil2100 to get some information first11:09
LocutusOfBorgnice to try to debug a sip failure due to new python...11:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dm-writeboost [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.2.6-1~16.04.3]11:38
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bcmwl [source] (xenial-proposed) [6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu1~1.3]11:41
rbasakLaney, LocutusOfBorg: are you talking about jemalloc or something else?13:03
rbasakI don't see jemalloc in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/13:03
ginggsrbasak: nobody set up a tracker for it, but it is in transition https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#jemalloc13:10
sil2100mwhudson: hey! The latest bionic subiquity server images are erroring out during installation having some touble with installing the kernel, looks like probably related to the kernel 'revert' that happened recently - could you take a look?13:10
rbasakginggs: thanks. I'm aware. I'm more wondering who's working on it to coordinate, as I have a volunteer to help.13:13
LocutusOfBorgrbasak, I look at qgis, nothing else13:19
LocutusOfBorgyes, we need help in mariadb-10.1 testsuite running forever13:19
LocutusOfBorgtogether with qgis they are the last blockers13:19
rbasakLocutusOfBorg: to make sure I understand, you mean the last blockers for the jemalloc transition?13:22
LocutusOfBorgjmalloc and other 14 transitions13:25
tjaaltoninfinity: ping re purging old xorg drivers, it doesn't make sense for me to update the transitionals pkg before it's clear what drivers remain :)13:28
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-disk-utility (bionic-proposed/main) [3.28.1-0ubuntu1 => 3.28.3-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)14:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nplan [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.32~16.04.6]14:59
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-control-center (bionic-proposed/main) [1:3.28.1-0ubuntu1.18.04.2 => 1:3.28.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1] (ubuntu-desktop)15:12
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kio-gdrive (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.2.2-0ubuntu1 => 1.2.4-0ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu)15:51
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acheronukseems update_excuses and anything else on people.canonical.com is currently down16:52
slangasekindeed17:04
slangasekseems to be a frontend problem, since the machines are up17:05
slangasekacheronuk: fixed17:20
acheronukslangasek: yep. I was just on the sysadmin channel asking. and the content, quote "relies on another server being up that had an issue"17:22
LocutusOfBorgcan anybody please kick haskell-store out from release and see the magic happen again?18:14
LocutusOfBorgit doesn't build, leaf package requires sourceful upload18:14
LocutusOfBorg(you can keep it in proposed, I presume it will be fixed in some days, but it will require a new transition, so better keep this one land)18:15
LocutusOfBorgthere is no RC in debian, because they are slow in rebuilds and they didn't catch the failure yet18:15
LocutusOfBorg(but I forwarded the issue on #-haskell debian channel)18:16
* LocutusOfBorg leaves18:16
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tsimonq2infinity: About that MP... :P18:41
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [armhf] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2.18.21+dfsg-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)22:11
mwhudsonwell i can confirm the pending bionic live-server iso fails to install22:47
mwhudsonbut the way it does so makes it look like the archive is busted?22:47
mwhudsonapt-get install linux-generic failing doesn't look good?22:48
mwhudsoninfinity, slangasek: halp, am confused23:02
mwhudsonohh23:03
slangasekmwhudson: is this related to the kernel revert for the regression?23:03
mwhudsonslangasek: yes it must be, but i'm also confused23:03
mwhudsonslangasek: although i just realized that the livefs is built from proposed but doesn't have proposed in etc/apt/sources.list23:04
slangasekwell23:04
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted docker.io [source] (xenial-proposed) [17.03.2-0ubuntu2~16.04.1]23:04
mwhudsonwhich seems likely to lead to confusion?23:04
slangasekthat's probably better than the alternative23:04
mwhudsonyes23:05
mwhudsonprobably23:05
mwhudsonbut it is going to lead to this sort of thing23:05
slangasekin this case, we are trying to use the daily image to actually test an SRU, so having it build not from proposed doesn't help23:05
mwhudsonanyway the fix is just to wait for linux-meta to migrate and build a new iso right?23:05
slangasekunsure.  why is linux-generic not installable in this combination?  is it because the image doesn't include linux-generic, only linux-image-generic or such?23:06
slangasek(should subiquity be not installing linux-generic? should the image be shipping linux-generic?)23:06
mwhudsoni am not completely sure23:07
mwhudsonwhaaat apt-cache does not work on read-only media?23:09
mwhudsonffs23:10
mwhudsonbiab23:10
sarnoldapt-policy?23:11
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [2.18.21+dfsg-1ubuntu1]23:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [armhf] (cosmic-proposed) [2.18.21+dfsg-1ubuntu1]23:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [2.18.21+dfsg-1ubuntu1]23:18
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [s390x] (cosmic-proposed) [2.18.21+dfsg-1ubuntu1]23:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [i386] (cosmic-proposed) [2.18.21+dfsg-1ubuntu1]23:18
mwhudsonoh23:19
mwhudsonah no the image does have proposed in its sources.list23:20
mwhudsonah so i think proposed is just inconsistent?23:23
mwhudsonhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/amd64/linux-image-4.15.0-26-generic <- no packages23:23
mwhudsonslangasek: ^23:23
mwhudsonslangasek: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed/4.15.0-26.28 <- NEW review pls? :)23:24
mwhudsonat least the initd looks correct wrt microcode23:28

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