 Welcome J...hos....ex...cnut...r...s
 make sure you check out that welcome link above! Welcome to community
 The libertine scope is only for vivid for now, rigt?
 Can,t find it in openstore xenial
 How to reduce battery drain in vivid any ideas
 Hey. any Swedes?
 Cloud music now works like a charm on 16.04 :D
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 @John_athan, Reduce multitasking. Keep a bare minimum of apps open at any given time. 1-2 should be sufficient for daily driver use. Depends on what you use the phablet for though of course. Turn brightness down. Turn volume down. Don't leave internet or bluetooth on needlessly. If all else fails, charge charge charge. C
[06:51] <ubptgbot> harge when you hit 30% until back to 100%. Invest in a portable battery pack for when you're out and about.
 @popescu_sorin, I believe that is true. There is meant to be a "docker" to replace it but I don't think it'll be ready in time for OTA 4.
 Nope. I did all above ,  is prob in software side
 @geotechland, I can download too 😁
 Battery life on my FP2 impoved noticeably though
 Hey Guys, I was wondering If there is a possibility to delete cookies  etc. in the Browser (or privacy settings, addons,...)? So far I only found Ublock
 Yes, built-in browser isn't great for privacy
 For example, I would really like to use some Firefox extensions
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 @garrogarri, But no alternative is.available afaik?
 Just the desktop version of FF via libertine, I think
 Hmm okay. Thanks!
 woah what
 when did libertine get fixed on hammerhead
 Last week
 holy crap
 that went completely under my radar
 Yes. We are moving silent and quickly sometimes 😆
 Hi @Flohack :) can you tell me, please, what's the default `locale` on your xenial devices? It seems it defaults to `en_US.UTF-8`. Thank you!
 How can I find out 😆
 type `locale` on the terminal? :)
 @TartanSpartan, oh, i see :D thanks
 i can launch them apps from terminal but it's silly
 also them apps don't work that great yet
 Ok wait
 👍
 Mine is de_DE.UTF-8
 On xenial?
 Which is kinda expected 😆
 Yes
 I set my phone to German
 In vivid I have the right `locale`but setting my phone to Spanish on xenial gives me ``en_US.UTF-8`` hmmm
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aouooDea1D0
 [Edit] In vivid I have the right `locale` but setting my phone to Spanish on xenial gives me en_US.UTF-8`` hmmm
 libertine in 16.04 RC, in system settings, awesome
 this + a libertine scope.. i think it's easy to use\
 "ubuntu-app-launch-appids" to get the appid … "ubuntu-app-launch [appid]" to launch the app﻿
 [Edit] In vivid I have the right `locale` but setting my phone to Spanish on Xenial gives me `en_US.UTF-8` hmmm
 ^^ to launch the app from terminal
 @advocatux, Please file a bug
 @popescu_sorin, Turn off autofocus next time 😆
 LOL :(
 i wish i could
 i'm recording with the MX4
 Ahhh
 Ok disregard 😆
 @Flohack, Yes, of course, but first I wanted to be sure is not about something I screw up :)
 yeah :D
 reported the bug in 2015?
 :P
 i record silly videos
 it's ok :D
 @popescu_sorin, I love your silly videos 😆🤘
 @Daniel_Wood, 0.1.9.103 works on windows 10 for me
 @Lakotaubp, Thanks for confirming. I will just use my Ubuntu machine when I get chance.
 @Daniel_Wood for windows users having a Ubuntu live stick is very handy, and the ubports-installer works great on that 😉 … https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
 I have 3 ubuntu machines, unfortunately I have to carry a Windows laptop with me for work.
 Yes, that's why I said a Ubuntu live stick is very useful ;)
 @TartanSpartan, doesnt the scheduler already limit multitasking to the active app
 Well. You could prevent app suspension as I do e.g. to keep YouTube audio in playback. And it does seem the more apps you have (even if only the current one is active) the more you drive the battery.
 *you have "open"
 I can now download MP3 from cloud music
 Hi guys, just a stupid question about clickable! I'd like to start working with it, so I decided to try one of the available app templates (something really basic to begin with)...but after launching clickable init, no matter what template I choose, I always run into the following error (reported just once as an example): …     Genera
[10:27] <ubptgbot> ting new app from template: C++/QML App (built using CMake) …     [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'https://github.com/bhdouglass/ut-app-cmake-template'  … Otherwise, when I try to build another app, everything works fine! Do you know what's going on with those templates?
 [Edit] Hi guys, just a stupid question about clickable! I'd like to start working with it, so I decided to try one of the available app templates (something really basic to begin with)...but after launching clickable init, no matter what template I choose, I always run into the following error (reported just once as an example): …
[10:28] <ubptgbot>  Generating new app from template: C++/QML App (built using CMake) …     [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'https://github.com/bhdouglass/ut-app-cmake-template'  … Otherwise, when I try to build another app, everything works fine! Do you know what's going on with those templates? … I installed clickable from PPA in Ubuntu 14.04
 I think I am missing something obvious. On 16.04 devel on my M10. … Looking to install Brewtarget via Libertine.
 I can search the archives for it. When it appears as a result what can I do to install it? … Pressing on it doesn't seem to do anything
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/eEBHYugJ.png
 And press enter
 @Daniel_Wood, Thats exactly when ubuntu convergence in your pocket is high value.....
 @wayneoutthere, Yes, that's the dream!!
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/0QdlmD24.png Yeah, I have got to this point. But what now?
 @Gravo, Never mind, I figured it out in another way!
 @malditobastardo, Is that screenshot compression or statusbar icons really look so pixelated?
 @Flohack about the `locale` mistery, the thing is the phone shows the right one when it's asked for it locally but if you use `adb shell` it reports not the real one but the default set on `/etc/default/locale` and it seems that's always `en_US.UTF-8` in spite of my device set to `es_ES.UTF-8`
 I'll file a bug report
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/oQob9dMl.jpeg
 @ar7ch, it's scaling/compression, when attaching images as images in telegram-app
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 @advocatux, Hmm I used terminal app, yes.
 some link to ubports on moto e 1st generation condor?
 thanks in advance
 I don.t think there is a port for that phone
 oh thank you all anyway, sorry for mi question, and thank you team and community for this wonderful work :9
 @padraic7a, Maybe they slide to reveal a button? I seem to remember something doing that...
 woaaa solitaire in landscape is quite usable on them phone
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lPzf_MU2Rw
 @popescu_sorin, YES!
 \o/
 Is it possible to connect an external camera on a Ubuntu Touch OS device?
 yes and no
 the kernels almost certainly don't have the drivers for external cameras
 and apps don't necessarily handle multiple cameras well
 Okay
 Since on Android it has been done before, is there a chance you think that this could be accomplished through anbox in the future?
 well i don't know what you are trying to accomplish
 using a camera on a drone controlled by the phone is not exactly an "external camera" in the standard sense of the phrase. it's more like streaming video instead
 (if that's what you're asking about)
 Ah I see, yes that is what I was asking about
 @popescu_sorin, Nice video - I have just subscribed … In settings there is a gear in the top right corner when you click on the container - what can you adjust there?
 @unknown, manage container and container informations
 and in manage container you can install PPAs
 additional bind-mounts
 update container
 Okay interesting - thank you
 @dohbee, Doesn't uvcvideo module work?
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[17:44] <ubptgbot> s3tupw1zard was added by: s3tupw1zard
 Hello
 I want to build sailfish OS for my device. Knows anyone a group for that? Best if its german
 WiFi gets on while turning hotspot on
 Fwd from jonny: Is Simon Stürz in this group? I have just build his App SwipeOut for 16.04 and would like him to upload it to the OpenStore.
 @s3tupw1zard, Any Help?
 @s3tupw1zard Hello, Not sure you are at the correct place :) try this : http://forum.jollausers.com/
 thanks
 I set the telegram, it shows just a white screen. worth ut 15.04
 @popescu_sorin, I play that all the time :)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/Pby5TpOz.png works fine on ubuntu...
 @Daniel_Wood, Is that a 4k monitor
 @VeryOriginalUsername, of course.
 Noice!
 Mines 1440p I'm pretty happy with it, I think 4k would be beautiful, but my focus desktop wise should be upgrading my CPU and GPU
 And get a ssd if you haz hdd
 Yeah I need to get a ssd but that's not as high up on the list
 I'm a self employed mechanical engineering consultant. I spend a lot of time looking at large 3D models so I need the screen space. Fortunately I can get hardware through my company.
 @Daniel_Wood, How do you look at these? Because in Maya you can see big objects, but in blender, when you zoom so far out object and part of objects seem to just vanish
 @ubportsot
 @ubports_ot
 I kinda started the offtop though 😅
 @VeryOriginalUsername, (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
 @PhoenixLandPirate, I generally work on entire oil refinerys and process plants using either Autodesk Plant3D, Navisworks or Aveva E3D. They mostly allow good control of the navigation.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, You might have to adjust the front and back clipping planes if thsi happens in blender. End of OT!! Sorry.
 @PhoenixLandPirate, [Edit] You might have to adjust the front and back clipping planes if this happens in blender. End of OT!! Sorry.
 Whats the difference between telegram and telegram X in play store
 To be honest, the channel about Ubuntu Touch is probaly not a good place to ask that question
 Ok
 @Daniel_Wood, I figured it out, thanks man, you're my hero!!!
 (Photo, 600x800) https://irc.ubports.com/WH7FeEF2.png 10 min  passed
 You didn't do a very good job of covering that number
 Kirill, deleted because your number was there
 @UniversalSuperBox, How about irc
 Well I can't delete it there can I?
 I don't really know how irc works 🤷‍♀️
 @UniversalSuperBox, do I need to delete my account?
 No, I don't think so
 on the PC code sent telegrams, and the device hangs on entering
 You might try installing the UT Tweak Tool from the store and clearing the data for Telegram
 now I will try
 I know how to enter the Libertine container and view logs. In the container is there somewhere I can copy them to be able to view them after I exit the container?
 @UniversalSuperBox, nothing has changed.
 What version of Ubuntu Touch are you using
 can run telegramm from the terminal? how to view the launch logs?
 `.cache/upstart/application-`
 And then whatever the application's name is
 16.04 rc or 15.04 on both equally
 If you installed Telegram on 15.04 and then upgraded to 16.04, you'll need to reinstall it from the store before using it
 Can someone recommend the very most bleeding edge topic(s) in the forum with info about the road to OTA-4 and stable Xenial. I've looked through the sub boards but I can't seem to find relevant info.
 Or upgrade it, if an upgrade is available
 I put 15.04 and telegrams, then 16.04, then back 15.04
 You should reinstall Telegram either way.
 If you upgraded it on 16.04, that version won't work on 15.04
 I put through ubport-install with full wipe
 Saying that I still need to catch up on the Q&A from three weeks back.
 @Kirill, Alternatively I'm going to ping @Flohack and let him take it from here.
 @TartanSpartan, https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones
 This is still the source of truth
 And well versed I am in it.
 Will the next gen browser allow us to specify a download folder?
 If someone makes that happen, I'd suppose so
 It'd be an AppArmor nightmare though
 @TartanSpartan, You can specify any folder you like, as long as it is Downloads
 Heh. On devices with choked internal storage it would be great. Rather than having to manually move everything to the card after completion of downloads.
 @UniversalSuperBox, Why does UT need the extra security AppArmor provides?
 Because it means you don't need to trust app developers, the system is enforcing rules on them.
 (But it helps to trust them)
 Why does Android have a permissions system? Same thing.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I can understand that but why go the extra mile when desktop Linux-based OSs don't have it? Or do they and I have no clue what I'm talking about (likely)?
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] I can understand that but why go the extra mile when desktop Linux-based OSs don't have it? Or do they and I have no clue what I'm talking about (quite likely)?
 Because Ubuntu Touch is not a desktop Linux OS
 Canonical wanted a higher standard enforced on developers of software on their platform
 I type my password into my password manager, every application running in my session can read it.
 @UniversalSuperBox, On what?
 My desktop Linux OS
 Wow. I didn't know that 😕
 @UniversalSuperBox, Then why not have it on Ubuntu?
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] Then why not have it on Ubuntu as well?
 They do. Snaps exist now.
 And Ubuntu Touch was almost never marketed as Ubuntu Touch until UBports took it over. It was always Ubuntu for Phones or Ubuntu for Tablets
 It was going to be Ubuntu
 So why is it Ubuntu Touch now?
 @UniversalSuperBox, I hate snaps 😂
 @amolith, https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] I dislike snaps 😂
 Because it's not Canonical's, the community normally called it Ubuntu Touch to Canonical's upset, and calling our OS Ubuntu would be both a copyright violation and user-hostile
 @UniversalSuperBox, Phubuntu? 🤣
 Canonical doesn't grant trademark exceptions to *ubuntu any more
 You can only be Ubuntu something
 I know you were joking though. ;)
 Ultimately, confining applications changes the trust model in your computer
 @amolith, Me too. 🙏
 Confine all the things!
 @dohbee, 🤣
 With a normal Linux OS, you need to trust the app developer, the person publishing it, the person packaging it, the platform, and the computer. With Ubuntu Touch, you need to trust the platform and the computer. The platform enforces limits on the developer, publisher, and packager.
 @UniversalSuperBox, After watching the video, I really want Unity 8 on Arch now (@vanyasem!)
 @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] After watching the video, I really want Unity 8 on Arch now (@vanyasem 😉)
 Of course the security model isn't perfect. We still need full-disk encryption and boot verification intact for a good trust model
 I look forward to when this can be implemented.
 I do too. I have ideas but unfortunately not the time or expertise (yet) to implement them.
 Furthermore. I discovered that when I hit "Safely Remove" on the External Drives GUI utility in Xenial, no dice. I don't think this is an issue tracked on the milestones or elsewhere. But it should be, right?
 Sure
 @UniversalSuperBox, Honestly, I'd prefer it like a normal distro. AppArmor seems to be incredibly limiting. I do, however, understand that security should come first and UT is being marketed mainly, it seems, to the average desktop user, rather than a power user.
 Anyone else want to test ejecting SD cards/other media to make sure I'm not just too tired to correctly operate it? Doubt it, though.
 You're free to use your phone with AppArmor turned off, I suppose. But I'm not going to give you instructions on how to do that or spend time on making that experience better.
 @UniversalSuperBox, I'm not going to bother with that lol. It's only a slight preference 😉
 UT is amazing enough as it is
 Well, you can run arch on your phone soon, and most apps won't work reliably because it's not a stable platform. But at least you'll be giving root to all developers. :)
 Arch packages aren't supposed to run as root though
 So saying that isn't very fair
 @UniversalSuperBox, Yup. They're run as fakeroot
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/755
 My first Github issue :)
 IMHO, this should be prioritised before OTA-4 for stable Xenial and to ensure continuity of experience for Vivid users @Flohack @UniversalSuperBox @mariogrip @neothethird
 And note also how I raise, in a comment, the question of if this feature doesn't work, perhaps the other one of formatting the disk doesn't either.
 I wonder if it affects multiple devices, too.
 Testers, go.
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 @TartanSpartan, Well please don't ping everyone for every issue
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