[00:01] <tomreyn> hehe
[00:02] <tomreyn> i realized this mistake all too soon
[00:03] <tomreyn> i guess there will be no ssh tunneling with this user
[00:05] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: did you know unmkinitramfs nad the current initrd file format? i learnt something new today during my PEBCAK session this afternoon
[00:18] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: not in the leaast .. the term " unmkinitramfs ' is UNfamiliar :(
[00:18] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/unmkinitramfs.8.html
[00:19] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: i didnt know it either, just wondered how to peek into an initramfs in 2018 <tomreyn> binwalk to the rescue! https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MQ296gq7RQ/
[00:20] <tomreyn> (or rather: since the past few years, where i never did)
[00:21] <tomreyn> there's not a huge trove of documentation on this format which every systemd based distro seems to use nowadays.
[00:22] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: a new toy :) .. I had always done 'cpio' direct to extract the ramfs .
[00:23] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: so didi, and ended up with https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbZKvWfMzz/
[00:23] <tomreyn> *did i
[00:24] <tomreyn> which made me think it was broken, since my desktop would not boot at the time, stopping after "Loading initrd". took me a while to realize it was this other issue.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> added to my notes on the to-do list :)
[00:25] <tomreyn> :)
[00:26] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: I had followed along with what you were doing .. but as I am booting 18.10, I did not feel I could add anything .
[00:27] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Also kinda procrastinating on doing UWN - can not seem to get in the frame of mind to do article summaries .
[00:29] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: thanks for following my chat there. is 18.10 different in terms of initrd?UWN = ubuntu weekly news?
[00:32] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: can not say what may have changed in the cosmic kernel space as I have yet to look and see . // Yes, UWN us Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter . Got to get hot on it if it is to meet the Monday deadline .
[00:34] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: to tell the truth. last time I seriously looked at the kernel was the change from 10.04 to 12.04 .
[00:36] <tomreyn> hehe
[00:36] <tomreyn> time flies
[00:41] <Bashing-om> Time - Tell me ! .. Can not believe tghe time lapse since I was *forced* to relinguish 10.04 .. it is now 18.10 time . A lot of support time !
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !info clonezilla
[05:49] <Bashing-om> Toddl'n off to bed ,,, G Night \o
[06:39] <ducasse> good morning
[09:39] <blackflow> moaning!
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> any of you guys saw automatic kernel cleanup in update-manager yet?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> i seen it once GUI
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> hmm seems like my bug about it dissapeared
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> !kernelcleanup
[11:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> support is ZZZzzzZZZ at the moment
[11:54] <blackflow> Sat afternoon for the european shift :)
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> and sunny, and vacation, and grocerys
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/banking-trojan-found-in-over-40-models-of-low-cost-android-smartphones/
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> android is safe heh, what a joke
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hey lotuspsychje
[12:04] <BluesKaj> i don't bank on my phone unless I feel safe on the network i'm using
[12:04] <BluesKaj> think i did it once only a few weeks ago
[12:07] <blackflow> to be fair, the problem is not really in android, it's in malicious vendors.
[12:08] <blackflow> the lower the price of something, the higher the "price" of it :)
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> thats only what they know, im sure many other rootkits floating around unknown tru all kinds of mobile Oses
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> welcome revenant
[12:15] <revenant> Hello world.  I've got a friend claiming Ubuntu's full of proprietary awfulness and lots of restrictions, but I've never seen any restrictions.  Does anyone see practical differences between Ubuntu and Debian?
[12:16] <blackflow> you sure she didn't mean Apple/OSX/IOS?
[12:17] <blackflow> (it's UNIX, you know, so maybe there's the confusion with (Ubuntu) Linux)
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !debian | revenant
[12:33] <revenant> blackflow - she definitely didn't mean Apple. She's just pretty extreme about the FOSS stuff.  I wonder how much truth there is to it, because the only thing I have trouble modifying is the Gnome terminal, nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[12:35] <blackflow> revenant: there's no truth to it. Ubuntu _may_ be opinionated on how certain things are pre-set, but it's all open and GPL compliant (and compliant to any other license some software might come with, in official Ubuntu repositories).
[12:35] <blackflow> on the other side of the spectrum, it is not strict wrt Libre software, and thus it support installation of non-libre software, like nvidia proprietary drivers, for example.
[12:38] <revenant> blackflow: that's been my experience.  I've seen some nice things about the Debian repositories, but Ubuntu seems more up to date, and I wonder if installing drivers for my NVidia graphics card would be difficult under Debian.
[12:38] <blackflow> Debian supports "nonfree" repositories.
[12:52] <BluesKaj> sometimes debian permissions can be a pita, but otherwise it's a top notch OS IMO
[12:53] <BluesKaj> their support chat is populated by some really pedantic assh*les too
[12:54] <blackflow> it's a quality OS, no doubt about it. personally I prefer the better hardware and software support, and the whole release model of Ubuntu, esp. LTS + 6-month dev versions inbetween for some new software love affair :)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> yeah, I like testing new Kubuntu dev releases
[13:01] <blackflow> sometimes the NIH stuff like netplan can be a bit annoying :)
[13:01] <blackflow> but Unity was awesomest thing. bestest DE out there. I have had sads that it's no longer officially supported.
[19:23] <EriC^^> hello all
[19:26] <blackflow> 'elo
[19:26] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: :)
[19:27] <jink> :')
[23:09] <pauljw> hi everyone