[00:04] Hi guys! I have had a really bad experience with Ubuntu cosmic, though it was an upgrade from 18.04. Have any of you experience similar issues and do you think that it's still worth a shot? [00:05] cosmic is in development, .. [00:06] pete__: it's not out yet ... not until october. [00:06] pete__: you shouldn't run it unless you absolutely know what you are doing [00:07] updates every day, not for production, but oke [00:10] Cool, any idea concerning new possible features in this anticipated release? [00:18] pete__: here's some speculation https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/06/ubuntu-18-10-release-date-features [00:21] pete__: and actual planning https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/05/18/desktop-plans-for-18-10 [00:24] ... we propose to ship Chromium only as a snap from 18.10 onwards, and also to retire Chromium as a deb in Trusty :-( [00:26] So... I created a ppa in launchpad, but I cannot add it as a repository because apparently the key doesn't exist anywhere. [00:26] Does anybody know how I could fix this? [00:27] Lord-Kamina, what ppa exactly? sudo add-apt-repository ppa: would import the key [00:28] Lord-Kamina: you add the key to your ppa. more questions? launchpad is #launchpad , ubuntu application development is #ubuntu-app-devel [00:28] Yeah but the key is not in the server. :| [00:28] Thanks. [00:28] and write a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ .file [00:30] actually i think the apt signing key is generated by launchpad, and no longer as DSA-1 nowadays (doh!). [00:31] oh correct, launchpad provides the key [00:31] but we cannot check, without information. [00:31] information is key :-P [00:33] Hi, all. I'm having some trouble getting the touchpad on my laptop working. It's an ASUS GL703GE. I've found a number of "solutions" that don't work for me. Someone else with the same laptop posted a ton of information here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038602/18-04-ite-8910-touchpad-on-asus-strix-gl703ge-not-working [00:33] Does anyone have any thoughts on what other steps I can take to try and get the touchpad working? [00:34] The touchpad is listed as an "ITE Device (8910)". More detail in the link above. [00:36] https://launchpad.net/~litenstein/+archive/ubuntu/icu [00:36] Key should be https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?fingerprint=on&op=index&search=0x1E0A4B32AA748B9D11C4528301A509285F2EA337 [00:36] But it says not found. [00:37] 18.04 uses libinput touchpad driver by default instead of the older synaptics driver, which might work better.. sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics # and reboot [00:37] Lord-Kamina, it gives a signingkey, but Trusty only [00:37] 4096R/1E0A4B32AA748B9D11C4528301A509285F2EA337 [00:38] It's my ppa, I created it yesterday, was trying to add it to my CI to debug what's failing with building the packages and I noticed the issue with the key. [00:40] oerheks: I tried that, but no luck. I think it might be an ELAN touchpad, I don't know if xserver-xorg-input-synaptics supports ELAN or only synaptic. [00:41] Lord-Kamina: what is "it" saying "not found"? btw. the backend server to https://keyserver.ubuntu.com seems to be experiencing difficulties, i get to see "error reading from remote server" [00:43] The keyserver doesn't have the key, apparently. [00:43] I meant the keyserver itself can't find the key, so obviously add-apt-repository cannot get it either. [00:44] Lord-Kamina: based on which output? [00:44] https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?fingerprint=on&op=index&search=0x1E0A4B32AA748B9D11C4528301A509285F2EA337 this. [00:46] Lord-Kamina: this returns the following to me: "502 Proxy Error [..] Reason: Error reading from remote server". which is a server internal error, i.e. communication between two servers failed within canonicals' infrastructure. [00:46] which was a topic in #canoical-sysadmin earlier today. [00:47] +n [00:47] Ah. I get the actual error saying key not found. [00:47] But I guess it's probably due to the same issue then. [00:47] i see, that's why i was asking about the error message [00:47] What's the best video player for ubuntu? [00:48] energizer: the one you like the most [00:48] tomreyn: that's not really helpful for me right now [00:48] smplayer and vlc are popular ones [00:48] energizer, there is no single best, vlc is mostly used, but i like mpv [00:48] energizer, ^ [00:48] energizer: probably not. ;) but the question is highly subjective, that's why i gave this answer [00:49] gnome-mpv that is, with full controls [00:49] or smplayer with mpv [00:49] tomreyn: fair enoguh [00:49] thanks all [00:49] welcome [01:13] anyone use gento prefix here? in the startprefix script I get a bash error about a less pipe: bash: eval: line 31: `Usage: lesspipe ' [01:13] should I fix it or am I doing something wrong? === Smeef is now known as Trump === Trump is now known as Smeef === errrasmus is now known as erasmus [02:19] hi all, can i ask some questions here related to ubuntu server configuration ? [02:21] stopc: sure, there is also #ubuntu-server, but i guess either works [02:21] bbl... [02:22] tomreyn: I trying to set up on ubuntu 18.04 server knockd to start on bootup, but it doesn't currently and i have to start it normally, for some reason service enable and defaults doesn't work and when i reboot it still doesn't start on boot [02:23] stopc: this package https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/knockd or a 3rd party one? [02:24] this package comes with /lib/systemd/system/knockd.service [02:24] tomreyn: yep 0.7 exactly it [02:25] yes [02:25] tomreyn: its all set and working properly, but i want it to start automatically on bootup and it currently doesn't i need to start it manually [02:26] Had a question I added the gnome extension applications menu but it wont do anything when i click on it in 18.04 bionic beaver [02:28] stopc: so you need to either just "sudo systemctl enable knockd.service", or if it doesn't define the boot target then you need place symlinks defining this target in / etc/systemd/system/ [02:29] here's one of many explanations of how systemd works https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units [02:29] tomreyn: i was doing enable but with service not systemctl [02:29] 'service' is a compatibility layer, use systemctl directly for systemd [02:30] (not to be mixed up with sysctl ;-) ) [02:31] dqsii: about gnome extensions, you'd best ask on gnome support channels. they're at irc.gnome.org IIRC [02:33] tomreyn: i will look into it thanks [02:34] I have an old problem with wifi on Kubuntu, it speed decrease without reason and sometimes I lose the connection, Is there any package or a driver could help in that , I think it is a general problem, I remmber I have used opensuse and the same problem appeared, I'm not sure it is problem in the kernel or in KDE. [02:37] someone_: usually these are driver or hardware design issues. some drivers provide options to work around issues such as bluetooth coexistence (bluetooth and 'wireless' can share some frequencies). [02:37] someone_: which hardware do you have there? [02:38] I'm not sure How can I know ? [02:38] I have Hp pavilion g6 laptop . [02:39] someone_: nc termbin.com 9999 <( sudo lspci -nn; sudo lsusb; ) [02:39] should return a http address, which you could post here [02:41] tomreyn Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [1814:3290] [02:45] someone_: does "lsmod | grep rt" list rt2800* or rt3290* ? [02:49] tomreyn rt2800 [02:50] someone_: does "dmesg -T | grep rt2800" return what looks like warnings or errors on a regular basis? [02:51] how do i get the speed of my current ram without rebooting into UEFI? [02:52] dmesg -T | grep rt2800 this command do nothing [02:54] scientes: try this: sudo dmidecode --type memory [02:54] Speed: 1333 MT/s [02:54] bingo [02:55] I have never used other interface maybe the problem with KDE. [02:57] so faster ram can always run slower? [02:58] someone_: can you post: modinfo rt2800pci | grep ^parm [02:59] having trouble finding it [02:59] sure. [03:00] tomreyn parm: nohwcrypt:Disable hardware encryption. (bool) [03:00] .close [03:01] someone_: hmm that's not a lot of options. [03:01] that is the result . [03:02] scientes: yes, and has to, if there's slower ram in there. still they need to be compatible to one another and the mainboard [03:02] someone_: i don't doubt it, i'm just meaining to say this means we can't really configure anything there. [03:03] I have never tried another interface Do you think it is a problem with KDE only ? [03:04] someone_: in case the issue is not with your wireless card but with the router, you might just want to restart it. but i came across other people reporting that it gets slower, so it's probably a driver / firmware issue [03:04] someone_: it most likely has nothing to do with kde, no [03:05] someone_: that's unless your computer becomes much slower generally while you run KDE, then it *might*. [03:07] tomreyn Ok , Thank you so much Thomas . [03:07] someone_: look here (last post), might be worth a try, too: https://askubuntu.com/questions/405644/slow-wireless-with-rt2800pci [03:08] hi [03:12] someone_: so disabling power management seems to help [03:28] tomreyn I will try, Thank you again . [03:29] :) good luck [03:31] Please guys, how can I copy an entire folder from a remote shared folder ? [03:31] I am using smbclient [03:51] I have modified my fstab to mount a ntfs usb hard drive as `/media/networkdrive0` When I try to delete a file, it says that it cannot find or create trash directory. I have created a `.Trash-1000` directory with the three subfolders inside of `/media/networkdrive0` and chmodded them as 777 but I still can't delete files. [03:53] nevermind, I needed to modify my fstab oops [03:55] How do I actually view the items in the trash? If I try to `cd .Trash-1000` it says that its not a directory [03:56] Shmam: then what is it: stat .Trash-1000 [03:57] also you said you created this directory? [03:57] Yeah I created it [03:57] says that it has a size of 0 [03:58] after I just deleted something [04:01] it probably is a directory. stat would tell [04:03] hmm [04:03] yeah when I delete something, it's just gone forever [04:03] I tried making `files`, `info`, and `directorysizes` dirs inside of it but that didnt work [04:04] yeah you're not supposed to create those manually [04:05] Hi [04:06] Shmam: graphical file browsers would create those, such as nautilus. but personally i dislike those. [04:06] the .Trash directories, lesser so the graphical file / directory browsers [04:07] so it will only delete to there if I delete it from one of the guis? [04:09] right [04:09] oh thats fun [04:10] it is an attempt to console non console users [04:14] hey did anyone try iDrive scripts? === flyingtoaster is now known as badpilot [04:16] flyingtoaster.... is that like a steerman? ;) === Sir_Andr` is now known as Sir_Andrei` === Sir_Andrei` is now known as Sir_Andrei === errrasmus is now known as erasmus [05:27] !clonezilla | blue1 [05:27] !clonezilla | blue1 [05:28] !msgthebot > blue1 [05:28] blue1, please see my private message [05:28] blue1: !info yourpackagename [05:29] thanks [05:33] i think the part I am missing is how do I create a boot disc for clonezilla. I have never used it. [05:34] blue1: can this help: https://linuxconfig.org/using-clonezilla-beginner-and-advanced-approaches [05:34] thank you [05:38] blue1: or the clonezilla page: https://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php [05:39] yeah I am there now. I thought that the version available through the repo would create a bootable disc -- it does not. [05:39] blue1: and last but not least, there's a small #clonezilla channel too :p [05:39] blue1: perhaps take also a look into the manpage [05:39] thanks. I have always used dd -- but this might be a better way to go. I heard it does compression. [05:39] I shall. [05:40] sadly no man entry for clonezilla [05:41] I am going to try to backup a small 20G partition first [05:42] !backup | blue1 see also [05:42] blue1 see also: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning [05:43] blue1: rsync can also very usefull [05:43] be [05:43] yes [05:44] I use that to backup /home [05:46] here goes === chris3 is now known as Plasmouck [06:01] hey i'm trying to add a brother wireless printer. i've edited /etc/printcap but `lpr -p` hangs [06:05] also using systemd to enable lpd.service gives a org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 error (wasn't provided by any .service) -- but i don't have any desktop gui installed (no x11) [06:07] lotuspsychje: appears to have worked. Thank you. Tomorrow I will restore the partition and verify the backup. [06:07] !yay | blue1 [06:07] blue1: Glad you made it! :-) [06:08] A bit over 2G/min -- it took about 5 1/2 minutes [06:34] can the intel C600/X79 raid controller be used as a true hardware raid controller, or do I have to set the drives to AHCI mode and use mdadm? [06:51] Hi, I installed Eclipse via sudo apt install eclipse. And now I get this https://www.hastebin.com/rejivawube.diff [06:51] InteliJ works perfect [06:51] but I don't know what's wrong with Eclipse [06:52] Ubuntu 18.04 [06:58] varaindemian: try using an older jdk https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=891956 [06:58] Debian bug 891956 in eclipse "eclipse no starting -ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter" [Critical,Open] [06:58] postmodern: onboard, fake raid, better use software raid. [06:59] any idea why when run‌ning lxde some apps just show up as lxpanel? [07:00] for example i use obs and its just showing up as lxpanel [07:00] can I ask a quick question? [07:00] no [07:00] varaindemian: see also https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=252425 [07:00] im trying to find what command executes when i run obs (not just running obs in the command line) im trying to find the exact exacutable to trigger it via python [07:00] bugs.eclipse.org bug 252425 in Runtime "Eclipse crash (java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter )" [Major,New] [07:01] dsaint: of course, no need to ask to ask ;) [07:01] i'm trying to install superdesk on ubuntu server 16.04 and I am constantly failing to do so [07:01] i cant find the exact executable due to its just showing up as lxpanel when i run the pid through ps [07:01] jamie1: i don't know what obs is but try "which obs" [07:02] on vps, on a local hyper v [07:02] tomreyn: I'll have a look [07:02] Thank you! [07:02] jamie1: try "ps ef | grep obs" [07:02] but then I installed VirtualBox on my local machine and loaded an os boxes image and installed fine [07:02] tomreyn: obs-studio is a standard package in the ubuntu repos and is a broadcast/recording software [07:03] dsaint: "superdesk" does not seem to be an ubuntu package [07:03] is there any way to understand what is different in the osboxes and the standard image [07:03] jamie1: oh i've heard of obs-studio [07:03] jamie1: try "dpkg -L obs-studio | grep bin" [07:04] its weird because when i look in user/share [07:04] obs is listed but there is no bin in there just the locales [07:04] tomeryn this is superdesk https://github.com/superdesk [07:04] i am aware is not an official package its Opensource project [07:05] jamie1: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/amd64/obs-studio/filelist [07:06] jamie1: or just what EriC^^ said [07:06] than [07:06] i thin‎k i found it [07:06] let me pass it through python and see if it works [07:06] dsaint: get support from the developers [07:07] tried but looks like is a slow process thanks tomreyn [07:07] dsaint: web applications not packages in ubuntu are beyond the scope of this channel, i'm afraid [07:08] *packageD [07:08] I am trying to find if there is a way to know about the differences between the official iso and osboxes image [07:08] :) thanks i know tomreyn [07:11] tomreyn: and EriC^^ got it thanks! [07:11] happened to just be obs with no extension in /usr/bin [07:11] still not sure why the pid shows up and lxpanel [07:13] thanks all --- out [07:15] im thinking of writing a mycroft skill for controlling ubuntu [07:15] would probably work across most ubuntu flavors [07:43] Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 560 @ 2.67GHz (1,66GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7,5 GiB Total (6,1 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 26,3 GB / 321,0 GB (294,7 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GT216GLM [Quadro FX 880M] @ Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core i3/5/7 Processor Reserved • [07:43] Uptime: 2h 18m 29s [07:44] !discuss | thorsten__ [07:44] thorsten__: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! === mase is now known as mase_AU === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [08:21] hey how can i bridge a connection between two virtual machines [08:21] For example one machine has openvpn and the other which has deluge on it tunnels through [08:21] and if the openvpn instance goes offline then the other one doesn't have internet === Cryterion_ is now known as Cryterion [09:03] xubuntu-18.04 -- Firefox Quantum ver: 61.0 (64-bit), how do I remove Language Packs which 'could not be verified for use in Firefox.' tnks [09:05] Trying to install windows 10 iso to a 32gb ntfs usb, but in the [09:05] installation bootup my 32gb usb won't show up. Any ideas? === coolchris is now known as Guest17743 [09:11] xubuntu1804, i don't know, but try `apt list --installed |grep -i firefox` & maybe packages with firefox-locale- are the ones to remove... [09:12] xubuntu1804, what tells you that? [09:13] firefox/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 61.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64 [installed] firefox-locale-en/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 61.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64 [installed] [09:13] note on my last, i wasn't telling you to remove all that matched; only remove the ones that you know are not your own language; and you consider a problem... [09:13] oh i found this post https://askubuntu.com/questions/1039485/firefox-language-pack-ubuntu-18-04 [09:14] Firefox Quantum ver: 61.0 (64-bit), Add-ons Manager >> Languages [09:14] edit extensions.langpacks.signatures.required or remove language packs, but i would not worry [09:15] pinga, best idea: ask in ##windows [09:15] Be aware that this is a security risk because this will disable the signature check for all language packs (not normal addons tho). [09:16] yes , so ignore this langua pack sign issue [09:16] c/language [09:17] or you might want to try out the snap version, maybe that one comes with signed packs [09:18] Hi [09:18] I need help with the installation of ubuntu [09:18] I chose the manual partitioning and now i have two free space slots [09:19] I don't want Language Packs, and have Firefox crash problems, why do Canonical include these??? [09:19] How can i have only one free space slot [09:21] xubuntu1804, those are standard, for a long time now, not just ubuntu only [09:21] focus on your crashing firefox [09:23] Diamondoh: can you paste a screenshot so it's clearer? [09:23] focus on your crashing firefox, I'm, I would like to remove this crud code from FF [09:27] hmm this bug seems 4 months old https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1446948 [09:27] Mozilla bug 1446948 in Add-ons Manager "Unsigned langpacks are not displayed in “Languages”" [Normal,Verified: fixed] [09:27] maybe that is why FF61 took a week to publish [09:29] oerheks: I've asked in windows and it sounds as if it's to prevent me from not using enterprise windows to go [09:29] xubuntu-18.04 -- Firefox Quantum ver: 61.0 (64-bit) here?? [09:30] regression?? [09:30] xubuntu1804, seems so, yes [09:30] i think the snap would be the same [09:36] can I remove: firefox-locale-en :~$ apt-cache show firefox-locale-en [09:41] Package: firefox-locale-en Architecture: amd64 Version: 61.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 [09:44] Also, Package: firefox-locale-en Architecture: amd64 Version: 59.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1 ?? [09:49] Do I need to force apt-get -remove ->> Remove packages, OR apt-get -purge ->> Remove packages and config files ?? [09:50] i think this will mess up firefox [09:51] Why two Package: firefox-locale-en , Version: 61.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 AND Version: 59.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1 [09:52] oh, that 59 should be removed, apt autoremove will do that [09:52] should not conflict, thos 2 versions [09:54] thanks, I will exit FF, autoremove the 59.0.2-package, and log back in to IRC to report === bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan [10:39] anyone knows how to stop ruby http server? im running ubuntu in ec2 [10:39] I can't exit [10:40] I, sudo apt-get remove firefox-locale-en , FF woks fine, got rid of the Language Packs [10:40] sudo apt-get install -f , Reading package lists... Done, Building dependency tree, Reading state information... Done, 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade. [10:42] Navyak: tried stopping the service responsible for that httpd instance? [10:43] Opps! 'FF works fine', may even be a little faster! [10:43] blackflow: i ran ruby -run -e httpd -- -p 5000 . [10:44] forgot how to stop it lol [10:45] Navyak: if that didn't daemonize in the background, try hitting Ctrl+C [10:46] Navyak: otherwise you can use `kill` with the PID of the process, eg. `kill 12345` where 12345 is the PID. [10:46] yea i remmeber that but ctrl+c did it === errrasmus is now known as erasmus [11:01] <-- Thank you for all of your help, it is much appreciated! Bye === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [11:07] hi [11:08] welcome hugo__ how can we help you? [11:08] no [11:08] thank you [11:09] lol idiot [11:09] Navyak: please no offensive language in the ubuntu channels [11:10] ok [11:14] or even better, no offensive language / attacks / abuse against other users. [11:15] the user had quit [11:15] nevertheless. === wanda is now known as wanda_ [11:44] nerds [11:48] !language | ittihatterakki [11:48] ittihatterakki: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList === davor_ is now known as davor [11:52] Hiyas all === akay_ is now known as akay [11:55] can i install another package manager ? cause this "software" thing sucks [11:55] mvvvpx[oCzUY=HlaDZ [11:55] system16: gdebi, synaptic [11:55] coconut: can we help you? [11:56] apt-get install synaptic ? [11:56] no i just did something wrong. (testing autotype feature) [11:57] system16: yes, with sudo [11:57] ok thabks [11:57] thanks* [11:58] what ? it says i have it [12:12] I have a friend claiming Ubuntu's prioprietary, locked-in filth. I've always been happy with it and haven't seen any restrictions. Any truth to her claims? [12:12] revenant: we dont take polls here mate [12:12] !discuss | revenant [12:12] revenant: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [12:13] have anyone ever get Office 2013/Office 2016 install on Ubuntu 18.04 via Wine? I've tried playonlinux, q4wine, wintrick etc, and none of them work [12:13] Cheers. === iced-tea is now known as HaMsTeRs [12:15] HaMsTeRs: 2007 and 2013 should work over wine [12:15] hame [12:16] I tried 2013, and the setup was hung. after diggng into the log, I found that there's an error like truefont or something [12:17] and there's a forum that mentioned to remove libz.so from linux-18 lib directory, but that doesn't work for me [12:17] HaMsTeRs: there are also ms office webbased apps for ubuntu also [12:18] yes, but that's a bit slo [12:18] slow [12:18] also I sometimes work offline while onsite [12:18] HaMsTeRs: cant you do your work from libreoffice? [12:18] tried that, but couldn't replace MS offiec [12:18] HaMsTeRs: replace no, but compatible, yes [12:18] also found some docs with spacing and format issue [12:19] I work a lot of docs, and I need MS Office. this is the only apps I need, other than that, ubuntu can totally replace my windows box [12:20] HaMsTeRs: another way around, try virtualbox with windows and office? [12:20] that runs very slow [12:21] tried that already [12:21] HaMsTeRs: on your system perhaps yes [12:21] !wine | HaMsTeRs see also [12:21] HaMsTeRs see also: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [12:21] HaMsTeRs: check the wine channel, perhaps they might know why you cant run them over wine [12:21] ubottu: Yes, and I encounter error while installing 2013 [12:21] HaMsTeRs: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:21] doesn't seem tos upport [12:22] thanks [12:32] hi [12:32] anyone here [12:32] yeah [12:32] very cool, i have a question regarding installation [12:32] i have a windows installation and i want to install ubuntu along it [12:33] when i pick the normal installation mode, i get the options to use a full disk encryption with password [12:33] however, i need to pick manual to select the free disk space, and then it does not encrypt my data [12:33] how can i have the manual installation but still have that installation be encypted? [12:34] you can't use full disk encryption [12:34] what are my alternatives then? [12:34] you can only encrypt partitions if you are planning on dual booting [12:35] my goal is to have the linux installation be encrypted [12:35] so that my data stays protected when my laptop is off [12:35] search askubuntu.com for "how can i install ubuntu encrypted with luks with dual boot" [12:36] unholymachine: please dont forward users to search the web [12:36] the answer is too long to give over irc [12:36] unholymachine: thats what #ubuntu is for, to support users [12:37] maybe you could tell me how better to support this user in this case? [12:37] It is a complicated issue it seems [12:37] yes [12:38] is there no "easy" way to do this? I have a single ssd that i want to run windows and linux on [12:38] unholymachine: we have other factoids, like dualboot and encryption, there are also other volunteers that can think along here [12:38] and i want both to be protected (encrypted) [12:39] you can't use the ubuntu installer to encrypt both partitions [12:39] that's true [12:39] you need to pick one or the other [12:39] actually, you can only pick the linux one [12:39] with one or the other you mean the OS? [12:40] well with windows there are solutions like bitlocker and veracrypt / truecrypt [12:40] iirc windows doesn't have a full disk encryption scheme that's on par with what linux provides [12:41] i need help [12:41] !ask | TheTrobz [12:41] TheTrobz: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [12:41] and even if it did, they would most likely not work in concert [12:42] why my wifi icon does not appear [12:42] :( [12:42] I see, so having 2 operating systems on the same disk "securely" is a huge issue basically [12:42] TheTrobz: we need a bit more details to be able to help you [12:42] !details | TheTrobz [12:42] TheTrobz: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [12:42] user__: yes [12:43] ok,wait [12:43] user__: if you want full disk encryption then linux is your only choice of OS [12:43] or maybe macOS, although i'm not experienced in that os [12:44] for the PC, linux is the only OS that provides this feature [12:45] how about the SSD itself [12:45] dont they usually have disk encyption enabled? [12:45] the goal is to ensure that my data is protected when the laptop is off [12:46] once it is on, i should enter a decryption password and boot like normally [12:46] does your ssd have hardware based FDE? [12:47] what you want to do requires a third operating system that encrypts your hard drive [12:47] afaik such an operating system does not exist yet [12:48] personally, I'd rather trust LUKS than closed blackbox hardware encryption.... https://threatpost.com/academics-find-critical-flaws-in-self-encrypting-hardware-drives/115103/ [12:48] blackflow: true [12:48] only one unchangeable key , forever [12:50] blackflow: I'd rather trust linux for that too, however it seems like the only practical solution if i have to have both windows and linux on the same disk [12:50] user__: the question is , does your ssd support it === sob is now known as Guest52234 [12:51] how do i know? I dont even know the ssd model thats inside my laptop [12:51] open your laptop and see what is in side [12:51] user__: depends. one can have fully encrypted Ubuntu installation ont he same disk with unencrypted windows, or whatever windows does to encrypt data, I don't know. [12:52] I installed ubuntu onto a flash drive on my computer and am 100% sure I did not nuke windows [12:52] but now I can't boot into windows. [12:52] how can I fix grub to have windows boot? [12:53] ubuntu is installed on a flash drive? [12:53] it's not installed on the same HDD as windows? [12:53]