| === guiverc_d is now known as guiverc | ||
| hggdh | oerheks: I think they are testing how far they can go | 02:45 |
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| oerheks | yes, we know the drill | 02:47 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:51 |
| oerheks | hi lotus | 02:52 |
| oerheks | interesting list https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/07/03/fresh-snaps-from-june-2018 | 02:55 |
| guiverc | yeah I thought so too, snap installed the quake-sha.. & was wondering why people used to play it for ages... 10+ mins later I was still playing it :) (& howdy lotuspsychje) | 02:57 |
| hggdh | lotuspsychje: morning | 02:57 |
| hggdh | and... good night to all | 02:58 |
| oerheks | snap install tmnationsforever corsixth flare-rpg sdlpop pencilsheep shattered-pixel-dungeon | 02:58 |
| oerheks | nn hggdh | 02:58 |
| lotuspsychje | hey oerheks guiverc hggdh | 03:06 |
| tomreyn | oerheks: thanks for your review there. | 04:42 |
| tomreyn | soon, infozip will be at 10 years without a stable release ;) | 04:43 |
| guiverc | tomreyn - no, that's a very stable release :) | 04:51 |
| tomreyn | as stable as the old full backup you took 10 years ago, since when you created incrementals | 04:52 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 05:01 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:22 |
| guiverc | howdy ducasse :) | 06:23 |
| ducasse | hi guiverc :) how are you doing? | 06:23 |
| guiverc | great thanks ducasse, you? | 06:24 |
| ducasse | ok here, thanks - having a cold coke and a cigarette to wake up :) | 06:25 |
| guiverc | cold coke.... i haven't done that in decades (though it was pepsi for me)... large hot milo (malt drink) does it for me :) | 06:27 |
| ducasse | it's a periodic thing here, in a little while it will be something else | 06:30 |
| Bashing-om | The something else for me right now is bed - vice irc . GN all \o | 06:32 |
| guiverc | night Bashing-om | 06:32 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: We have more fun tomorrow :P | 06:34 |
| guiverc | :) [ or should that be :( ] | 06:34 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:56 |
| === blackflow is now known as blockflaw | ||
| hays | ping | 13:36 |
| hays | right now i have a server mobo, with ecc memory, maxed at 32gb and an onboard 8 port SAS2 controller | 13:36 |
| hays | a pretty good setup--i think memory is the only concern | 13:37 |
| hays | blockflaw: | 13:37 |
| hays | i was looking at the seagates re8 liner | 13:37 |
| hays | line | 13:38 |
| blockflaw | right, so that should work more than well with a striped mirror or even raidz2 | 13:38 |
| hays | with raidz2 i could get up to 50TB of space | 13:38 |
| hays | that might push me into needing more memory | 13:39 |
| blockflaw | nah, don't take that 1GB per TB so strictly | 13:39 |
| blockflaw | it all boils down to what's the load profile you want to optimize for | 13:39 |
| hays | does zfs let you convert a raidz1 into raidz2 | 13:40 |
| hays | or maybe build a raidz2 as degraded | 13:40 |
| blockflaw | afaik no | 13:40 |
| hays | i kinda want to use one of the drives to migrate my data | 13:40 |
| blockflaw | that's the problem with ZFS, no way to upgrade/downgrade/change a vdev once defined | 13:40 |
| blockflaw | but afaik you _can_ start with a degraded array and add missing drives later | 13:41 |
| hays | well hot spares are not the worst idea | 13:41 |
| === blockflaw is now known as blackflow | ||
| blackflow | hot spares are nice, you don't have to rush to the server with a replacement. | 13:43 |
| blackflow | and you know when a disk dies, there's that panic that another one is about to go belly up soon | 13:43 |
| blackflow | which, incidentally, and against all odds, happened to me once. a 2-way mirror, one disk died, got replaced and while it was resilvering, the other died too. | 13:44 |
| hays | yeah ive had a close call within weeks once | 13:44 |
| blackflow | since then I said nowai, raidz2 or nothing. | 13:44 |
| hays | hitachi deskstars | 13:44 |
| blackflow | deathstars? :) | 13:45 |
| hays | i ordered the ultrastar replacement, put it in and within a few days another one bit the dust | 13:45 |
| hays | yeah, that wasn't the best choice in drive | 13:45 |
| hays | although the others have been running for a long time now | 13:45 |
| blackflow | HGST are fine drives these days. if Backblaze stats are to be trusted. | 13:46 |
| hays | i found a procedure to make a degraded array, but looks like you need to make a file the size of one of the disks, which is kind of a non-starter | 13:46 |
| blackflow | hays: on freebsd? you can use the gnop | 13:47 |
| hays | no this will be linux | 13:47 |
| blackflow | on linux... not sure what to use for a sparse file | 13:47 |
| blackflow | oh `truncate` | 13:47 |
| hays | yeah im reading about it | 13:48 |
| blackflow | trick being to remove it from the array right after zpool created it | 13:48 |
| blackflow | zpool offline and zpool detach if I'm not mistaken | 13:48 |
| hays | hah yes | 13:48 |
| hays | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/322352/create-raid-z2-in-degraded-state-possible | 13:48 |
| blackflow | right I guess no need to detach, offlining should suffice before 'replace' | 13:49 |
| hays | man lga1150 i dunno i guess it was limited to 32gb.. there's nothing ecc out there in motherboards that goes pst that | 13:58 |
| hays | wow, not even non-ecc | 14:01 |
| blackflow | hays: what do you mean? https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/X99E_WS/specifications/ | 14:32 |
| blackflow | and iX systems is selling 1TB RAM thingies, I'd have to look up the specs on that | 14:33 |
| hays | yeah im talking socket 1150 | 14:33 |
| blackflow | oh | 14:33 |
| hays | if i wanted to try to find a modo that woul take same ram/cpu | 14:33 |
| hays | but im going to give it a shot | 14:34 |
| hays | 10 tb and i think ill try raidz2 | 14:34 |
| tomreyn | "help!111 i have an issue here!!! but i wont tell you what it is!!!" | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, seems so | 15:26 |
| tomreyn | we got two of them now ;) | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | I guess we're mind readers | 15:28 |
| tomreyn | i'd respond to that, but you can just read my mind | 15:28 |
| ducasse | evening! | 18:05 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 19:33 |
| hggdh | oerheks: sometimes it is simply not worth the time to correct someone | 21:19 |
| oerheks | yes, but sometimes it is worth it :-D | 21:25 |
| oerheks | i am in dubio | 21:25 |
| oerheks | upgrading to 18.04 with 4 desktops, after that removing 3... | 22:13 |
| daftykins | ? | 22:19 |
| daftykins | a user is? | 22:19 |
| oerheks | yes, messing up the system in ##linux, getting help in #u .. without details ofcourse, no, we like guessing | 22:22 |
| daftykins | :( | 22:27 |
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